Long Game 67: The Road to Urithiru

[Gears]

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Translation please someone xD

Edit: If Gears is village, 1. I’m sorry 2. Please spare me for my failures

Goodbye in several different languages, curse you, a word that does not translate well but indicates a wish to die before someone so that you won't have to live without them.

I accept your apology, and hopefully the village will not.

[Mat he/him]

Where’s @Straw?

[Straw he/him]

Sorry! I had to go do something and it took longer than expected. Night will be up ASAP!

[Straw he/him]

[Death RP by Gears, go upvote them!]

Dr. Gears picked up his clipboard and watched as the mob advanced. As expected, they were approaching him with weapons drawn and torches raised. A curious property of mobs, he noted, was that they always had torches. Even though it was broad daylight, they held lanterns of Stormlight aloft on sticks. The lack of a flame did somewhat ruin the effect, but with the high oxygen content of Roshar’s atmosphere, open flame was simply too dangerous, even for mobs. He had been unable to convince anyone to kindle a flame, even the drunkards, so the dangers of fire were evidently embedded deep in the subconscious. He had, however, kindled his own flame. The consequent fire was quite large and spread rapidly before he doused it. 

Alas, the mob appeared to be too close to evade, and there was nowhere to escape to on the Shattered Plains. He could not cross the chasms alone, and the bridges were bulky and difficult to steal. Hiding in the chasms would allow him to survive, though he would be trapped down there until he drowned in the next highstorm since he couldn’t escape the chasms. Escape was not viable for survival, and in any case it would be pointless. His studies here were as complete as they would be, especially since the refugees would not be staying at the Oathgate long enough to observe. He wrote a few last notes concerning the behaviour of sapient entities and mobs and handed his clipboard to a small cremling.

“Make sure it gets to the database safely,” he said to the cremling. It clicked a claw in response. 

Nothing left to do but wait. The mob was mildly delayed by the traps he had set, but they were here now. His future held nothing but a cold, dead corpse. Cause of death was yet to be determined. He had a choice in this matter. He could let himself be torn apart by the mob, or he could ensure the safety of his research and burn it down. Obviously, his research was more important than maintaining a façade of belonging. He pulled out a detonator and glanced at the cremling. It scurried off as fast as its legs could carry it. It would probably be fine. Cremlings are durable things, after all.

At long last, the mob barged into his tent. It had taken them longer than he had expected. Did he make his traps too difficult? Oh well. The past is the past, immutable. As the mob closed in, he pressed. The resulting fireball burned the tent to the ground. Many of the mob’s members received serious burns, though none of them died. Dr. Gears’s research was irrecoverable, save for a lone cremling scurrying across the Shattered Plains. Cause of death: C4. 

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Gears has died! He was a Refugee.

Vote Count:

Gears (5): Araris Valerian, Illwei, Magestar, Matrim's Dice, TJ Shade
Lahilt (2): Frozen Mint, Gears
Frozen Mint (1): The Young Pyromancer

GM Notes:

-The night will end on July 13th, at 1:00 PM EST.

-Don't forget to get your actions in!

-PMs are open!

Player List:

Spoiler

A Joe in the Bush Refugee

@Araris Valerian

Ashbringer Refugee

@Devotary of Spontaneity

@Elbereth

Eternum Refugee Skybreaker

@shanerockes

@Frozen Mint

Gears Refugee

@Illwei

@Kynedath

@Lahilt

@Lord_Silberfarben

@Magestar

@Matrim's Dice

@Orlok Tsubodai

Sart Refugee

StrikerEZ Diagramist

@The Young Pyromancer

@The_Truthwatcher

@TJ Shade

Ventyl Refugee Edgedancer

@xinoehp512

@Zillah

 

Edited July 12, 2020 by Straw

[Mat he/him]

SHOOT

I was wrong. I have no defense.

My fellow villagers can lynch me if they wish. It will be a mislynch. But I totally deserve it. At least then the village might be able to glean some info on the votes on me.

Gears, I most sincerely apologize for my tunneling. Now I’ll go rework my suspect list, for all the good it will do.

At least I won’t have to worry about being NK’d.

Edit: If anyone is still willing to listen to me, I would suggest lynching Araris next cycle. I can’t recall his explanation for voting Gears, and he is a trusted villager that hasn’t been NKd. When compared with Ash, who received slight suspicions, it’s kind of strange.

Edited July 12, 2020 by Matrim's Dice

[Mint11 she/her]

22 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

SHOOT

I was wrong. I have no defense.

My fellow villagers can lynch me if they wish. It will be a mislynch. But I totally deserve it. At least then the village might be able to glean some info on the votes on me.

Lynch trains are bad.  Being wrong is no reason not to keep going. I don't see how lynching people for being wrong is helpful to the village. It can mean someone's intentionally leading a mislynch. It might not. But it's something we have to analyse to determine, not an automatic assumption. This mindset has been somewhat prevalent through out the game and I'm not a fan of it.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Matrim, by saying that, you lessen the chance Araris will be NKed, thus proving your own theory. Bad.

For NKs, me and Devotary are likely targets, as the least controversial players.

Also, Gears, was that an SCP foundation ref?

Edited July 12, 2020 by The Young Pyromancer
Didn't see it was by Gears

[Mat he/him]

24 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said:

Matrim, by saying that, you lessen the chance Araris will be NKed, thus proving your own theory. Bad.

Oops. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

I can’t recall his explanation for voting Gears

I did a comprehensive analysis of all his posts and thought he was elim (although my D1 analysis was much more village). In particular, I found his change of opinions during the Ventyl lynch to be rather suspicious.

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Edit: If anyone is still willing to listen to me, I would suggest lynching Araris next cycle. I can’t recall his explanation for voting Gears, and he is a trusted villager that hasn’t been NKd. When compared with Ash, who received slight suspicions, it’s kind of strange.

It's possible that the elims feel bad for my rather early deaths in the last 3 games. Also, I'm pretty sure just about every active player has voiced some suspicion of me. I (unfortunately) haven't got anything that soft-confirms me as village yet.

[Magestar he/him]

Well, I've got nothing.  I'm fairly happy with the discussion we had last cycle, given that we'd already basically decided to lynch Gears.  I'll look over that and probably write something up on it tomorrow.  I'll try to give some reads and lynch options.

On 7/12/2020 at 0:28 AM, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

I think a lot of the reason I was feeling bad about Mage is how much he's focused on TJ being evil when I've been reasonably sure that isn't the case. At this point though, pushing for someone so many cycles in a row with little to no external support is starting to seem more village. 

I've said this before, but there's not a lot else for me to go on.  I'm not suspicious of El, like other people seem to be, Matrim I've got a village read on, Gears just died, Pyro just started being more active, Araris is neutral, and almost everyone else has been quiet enough that I haven't been able to get much of a read on them.  Maybe that's my fault.

I also think this might be a bit of a bad habit of mine, although I usually hide it a little better.  I spent most of LG66 being suspicious of Ashbringer without much to go on besides my gut reads.  Idk.

Edited July 13, 2020 by Magestar

[Coffeecat she/her]

im reading, absorbing it all in...

prepare, tomorrow i will have my first lynch target.

[Straw he/him]

The night is over!

[Straw he/him]

No one had been able to find Elle recently, and eventually people realized that she had died. Everyone had just assumed that she was hiding somewhere. Oh well.

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Elbereth has died! She was a Refugee.

GM Notes:

-The day will end on July 15th, at 1:00 PM EST.

-If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!

-PMs are closed. Please stop talking in PMs!

Player List:

Spoiler

A Joe in the Bush Refugee

@Araris Valerian

Ashbringer Refugee

@Devotary of Spontaneity

Elbereth Refugee

Eternum Refugee Skybreaker

@shanerockes

@Frozen Mint

Gears Refugee

@Illwei

@Kynedath

@Lahilt

@Lord_Silberfarben

@Magestar

@Matrim's Dice

@Orlok Tsubodai

Sart Refugee

StrikerEZ Diagramist

@The Young Pyromancer

@The_Truthwatcher

@TJ Shade

Ventyl Refugee Edgedancer

@xinoehp512

@Zillah

 

[Mat he/him]

That’s... good to know.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Mage, I don't think I've been more active. I just think everyone else has been so inactive it makes me look good by comparison.

We're on a bad streak of mislynches here. @TJ Shade @Araris Valerian @Frozen Mint ya'll have been doing analysis. Help please.

[Mint11 she/her]

I still think we should lynch Lahilt. That's where my vote will go for now but I'll revisit later.

[Lahilt he/him]

So the main reason that I have not been voting is because I am not getting time to find solid reasons to vote on people as I was pretty busy. I am sure that I am now being set up to be the mislynch for this round. I am a villager with no special powers so killing me would not be too bad except we would lose a very important lynch than lose another villager to a night kill. 

Has anybody disproved the idea of TJ Shade and Striker both being Elim. That could be why there was no effort to save Striker as he was vanilla and TJ was Radiant. 

Also TJ wanted to swing the vote on Ventyl.

[Illwei]

I don't want to vote TJ but mainly because he is a KR (unless for some reason two elims have a vote manip surge and then for some reason used them and tried to convince people that TJ was the KR so that if he was killed they would still have people, but...yeah. Anyways) and we have already lynched so many refugee KR-well, two. but two is still...an...amount...

Though TJ is on my "First impressions of who I thought the elims were, because after I changed them all based on other people's analysis everyone on my secondary list was lynched and turned out to be village so I'm back to square one and my old thoughts" list

[Mat he/him]

I would go for Lahilt over TJ. But I’d rather go someone else. But there might not be someone else...

[Coffeecat she/her]

Ok, here comes my first vote

TJ Shade

Why?

mostly tinfoiling.

they were involved in most lynches(all?) against a villager.

i simply think killing them would prove very useful for analysis, since they would not only give us info, but most likely lynch an elim.

 

[Mat he/him]

The info part is certainly true. But we’ve used the ‘most likely lynch an elim’ thing this game a whole lot and we’ve seen how well that went. 

[Coffeecat she/her]

yes, yes, i understand.

but we scarcely can stop lynching altogether

all of those lynches you mention were not on TJ too

[|TJ| he/him]

6 hours ago, Lahilt said:

Has anybody disproved the idea of TJ Shade and Striker both being Elim. That could be why there was no effort to save Striker as he was vanilla and TJ was Radiant. 

Yes, it's been discussed and debunked (I hope). Me and Striker would have voted for Ventyl together and saved ourselves if we both were elims. He chose to vote for me. He wouldn't do that if there was an effort to save me over him. 

6 hours ago, Lahilt said:

Also TJ wanted to swing the vote on Ventyl.

You were on-board with this. You wanted to kill Ventyl, then did not vote for him at all in D2. 

2 hours ago, Lord_Silberfarben said:

they were involved in most lynches(all?) against a villager.

i simply think killing them would prove very useful for analysis, since they would not only give us info, but most likely lynch an elim.

Everyone alive is involved in lynching all villagers. Let me remind you that me and Matrim are the only players alive to lynch an elim. 

2 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

The info part is certainly true.

What info could you possibly gain with me flipping village? And I guarantee you I will flip village. 

Right, so my suspects. Araris remains the only player alive to have voted on me. Either he's village which means I'm not exactly sure where in the storms are the D1 elim votes, or he's an elim. He never seemed to mention Striker in D1 except for the elim!Devotary -> elim! Striker bit. Though why go for Devotary when Striker already had 2 votes on him? He mentions "If I have to go for TJ or Gears, I'd rather go for TJ to solidify his vote as I roughly trust/distrust them." No talk of Striker. He later votes for me at a crucial time changing 4-3 to 5-3 in favor of lynching me. 

There are some things that work for Araris, like him clearing Elbereth, which would end up with him being the only other to have voted for me. Firmly defended me and Ventyl, and I don't know why an elim would try to defend 2 village KRs.

Lahilt was strongly for lynching Ventyl in D1. But did not back it up with a vote in D2. He also has been semi-active and might have decided to elim kill Ashbringer as he might not have seen suspicion him by me and Matrim. 

If we're lynching an inactive, I'd go for Orlok seeing as he focused only on Elbereth and Gears, and later voted for Ventyl. Highest suspicion among the inactives.

Relatively village reads on Matrim, Mint, Ilwei, Magestar, Truthwatcher, Kynedath.

Neutral: Pyro, Devotary

Slightly suspicious of Silber as I think an elim is more likely to be motivated enough to go through 30+ pages to continue the game rather than a villager. 

I really hope you don't lynch me because we'd out of 3 village KRs. There's literal proof of someone else who has been active submitting elim kills as I used up both my actions in D1, and hence could not have submitted elim kill in D1. I Squired during N2, and hence could not have submitted the elim kill in D2 as well, though you'll have to take my word for it, or the word of the Squire, who may or may not be active, which I will not confirm. 

I don't know whom to vote for this cycle between Lahilt and Araris, but I hope a discussion can ensue and I can vote because of my suspicion and not out of self-preservation.

[Coffeecat she/her]

On 7/14/2020 at 5:08 PM, TJ Shade said:

Slightly suspicious of Silber as I think an elim is more likely to be motivated enough to go through 30+ pages to continue the game rather than a villager. 

When did i do this?

i never went over 30 pages

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

We've had the discussion about TJ being evil I'm pretty sure. Strategically, it may have been a good idea for elims!TJ and Striker to make sure one of them died D1, but strategy doesn't beat out enjoyment and I sincerely, sincerely doubt Striker(dies D1 a lot, hasn't been elim often) or TJ(first elim game) would have chosen death unless there was no other option, and we know there were other options because Gears and Ventyl were villagers. I do have a tendency to underestimate ruthlessness, but I just don't see it.

Assuming TJ is a villager presumably means the elims either went for TJ or Ventyl D1 after the votes on Gears started to fall away. The people who did either are Araris(TJ), and Mage(switched over from TJ), Truthwatcher(tried and failed to vote, but then twice posted later knowing that the vote didn't go through yet didn't care to actually vote Ventyl), and Lahilt. I do think Lahilt is the most suspicious of the Ventyl votes, but would like to ask @The_Truthwatcher why you didn't back up your stated intent to vote Ventyl by actually colouring it in red.