|TJ|

I will concede the point to you, yes. To us, there is no reason why Araris would be more suspicious than you, tbh. Your anti-synergy with Coco does make you a perfect candidate for the convert. Where I don't see Araris missing a kill, I do see a team with you might.

The other option is a Seeker, but I just checked the list of roles and the only Seeker in the game (after I was changed) was CadCom who has flipped village. Another option is some other pseudo-elim slipped up somewhere so I'd ask you guys to check if you slipped up anywhere. ed1t: check the world docs as well

I would like you explore some other possibilities - Did you mention to anyone at all that you were a pseudo-elim, @Stardust?

They can be elim and still be genuinely upset over being screwed over for Investiture :P.

Bahhh, knew it made more sense for it to be Star but I guess I just couldn't connect all the dots. But no kill? Wth?? Is it like 6-2 now?

Eh I'm still debating Lettuce versus Star but ig I don't have time to change everyone's minds before the rollover.

Interestingly, the same strat used by Coco. Could I have the list of the 8 C1 Nalthians. There is probably a way to solve this, especially with Qian's info-dump. The important info here is that Qian is the final-turned Coinshot who killed Star. But if Qian has been camped on Sel, then the only way to shoot (non-Selish) Star would be by spending Investiture. But as Qian has been on Sel since C2, there is a very very small chance that Qian had any investiture at all. Investiture sent towards Sel never reaches the target because of Sel powers. The ONLY way this can happen is if TWO players target Qian and send them Investiture, they would then receive ONE charge. This is a massive waste of action economy and I do not think Qian had a charge to kill a non-Selish Star. But then, Star's randomised kill did not go through, which clearly means that Star was NOT on Sel and Qian was most definitely on Sel. The question is, how did Qian kill Star? Where was Qian staying in C1?

Could you tell us your Shardworld locations? And if someone could corroborate Star's location in the final pseudo-cycle, it would be very helpful.

I shall remind you that it wasn't me who revealed it to the thread that I was pseudo-IM >> ahem ___ ahem :P. (but also you could have converted me smh, you didn't have to kill me .-. )

He got killed in C1 on pseudo-cycle which was the very first cycle, and he was active in the elim doc as well. He definitely would have taken a shot if we wanted to imo. And I would give the least weightage to ths\is reasoning as compared to my other reasons

Lettuce, yeah. I'm on phone but I remember revealing it to Coco pretty early that Lettuce was p-evil and I find it very surprising that Lettuce wasn't attacked in the cycle Coco became a Coinshot.

Rehashing my original argument of: Giving the elims a starting Coinshot + giving elims a pseudoGM gives them the chances to be too OP and have 2 Coinshot by C2. And xino would have used his shot if he's evil.

I will say this and remind everyone of how pseudo-elim kill worked - We need to put down a name in a tabular column in the doc, and only the most voted player got killed. Then one of us actually had to submit the kill action for it to be assigned to us. So it's not as easy as self-targeting. I was kinda dictating the kills until the cycle I got killed. And then if Lettuce is evil, they didn't really have to self-target anyway as they were beoing voted out.

[Star, Hopper, CadCom, Divergent, Mippo, Araris] is the PoE elims would have had if we assume e!Qian. Hmm, I have no idea how they'd go about narrowing that PoE to Star. I guess there had to be a mole then.

ed1t: huh I wonder if it was just a 3-person team and either they used some PoE to narrow their options to arrive at Star being the pseudo-elim