Illwei

Im shaking and screaming and crying

If Qian is an Elim that means that the silly rule I hate to believe in is true for this game and I'd hate for it to be right. it would mean either one in Qian/Grub which i mean I village read Grub, or one in Qian/TJ which i mean i lowk v read tj idk man i hate games I would rather not have any questions on who will die. ugh. idk. UGH. stop. UGH EDIT: Hoid EDIT EDIT: UGH AGH I SHOULDA LOGGED OFF FOR EOD

Votes could be moved as well I suppose, with keys or bribes or whatever you may. I think I would love to see coco dead, as it stands. (Erm- no offence coco). but that wouldn't happen today. People still, despite being given all day, have not made any comments about why Qian is an Elim besides the "defence" and "self preservation." I really don't think that he's going to flip Elim for some reason, and I think the worst thing that could happen after that is potentially just moving on to killing Hoid. I suppose I'll have to find out in an hour. Qian Mint did you feel you could get a train going on me? I'm confused by the near end-of-cycle vote? Edit: mmmmmmmm...

I think the constant battle in my mind during every C2 is the debate over where we Exe Do we go for the counterwagon(s) from D1, seeing as we hit a Villager? We'll never know what happened fully on D1 without resolving another moving wagon. But if we do that it's always for information, and information based exes are never what you want them to be. They only work if, like an Elim Self-killing, it's a winning move. Otherwise you're down people. OR Do you go for someone else. Someone who you feel there is a case on, but it's hard to justify when everyone wants to talk about the counterwagons. When you know that if they /don't/ flip, that there is a chance they can never be trusted even if they are Villagers. I don't know. Qian or Hoid could both be an Elim. I suppose. If they aren't, is everyone alive going to be able to find them, or find them enough to justify killing someone else ? Idk, it's a moot point. Either I keep my vote and Hoid dies, or I remove it and It ties, or I move it to Qian and Qian dies. EDIT: Hoid can you tell me who you think you have unpaired yourself with in thread? Why are you not teammates with specific people?

PMs are closed.

Also I'm gonna take back my comment that TUO and Hoid are unpaired. After re-reading through C1 there is nothing I find that sways me. I also take back the TUO/Grub unpairing. I love games EDIT: @Hoid Slayer Can you give some examples about coco? Having just read through can you give more info than "Hasn't said much?" I have comments but I feel as though people keep using my words and thoughts that I've said so far with less elaboration. Coco shaded hoid so I went through and made a list of things for him, and before that I provided a detailed summary of why I didn't trust Coco. lol.

Gonna share this with thread, even though I know people will probably go "uhhhh this makes no sense" Yellow is likely unpaired, green is "potentially pairing actions" but like, ignore them because they don't matter to flips. I think i unpaired some people early on for easy things that mayyybe I shouldn't have- but idk it's a rough Idea. Another Caveat is that if Coder is an Elim I don't think he is ever partnered with BOTH TUO and Hoid, but I also have TUO and Hoid as unpartnered as is, so that's fine. If Hoid is an Elim (i know i know, I'm voting on him-) I really only see him with Coder/TJ/Hopper/Stardust, which really isn't a lot. I think through activity he has pretty much unpaired himself with everyone else. Everyone like. in thread. I think the most solid unpairings are probably Qian and Coco though- Coco from their side with their instigating suspicion on Hoid. -- You're so sweet for that EDIT: This is a really good unpairing moment between Qian and Hoid - if you read it. Qian's response is what people are initially right now talking about why he's suspicious partly, and Hoid's half is him backing off slightly of Qian because he knows his vote is unjustified. This would also mean more if Qian was dead and flipped V, but how I see this is another point for why I think Hoid could be an Elim- because his initial response was "I didn't like the goodnight post," but when pressed on it more it turned into "I know it was a normal goodnight post, but I didn't have anywhere else to vote." ED2T: Again, I don't think I'm dying tonight, but I'm also paranoid and though pairings aren't incredibly useful as a grounds for an Exe, I do want to get my thoughts out before the next cycle because. Well. Uhm. I'm paranoid.

No, You cannot. So we have two people. Everyone has two actions. I do stand by that everyone should be going after the Agreement, as Grub brought up, but if you aren't or you are don't advertise it to the thread. Bonus actions cannot be blocked. If you are providing favour, please use your bonus action.

EDIT: @coco.pudding I never said anything I believe, but even if I had Coder had 1) Not been in thread yet 2) explicitly told me it had come from TUO in a PM. Real Edit: Well that's embarassing again. It's showing that I don't actually hit the edit button and instead just draft a new post with "EDIT" at the top..... Honestly you shouldn't have said anything to begin with here lmao, but it is what it is.

@Hoid Slayer, @Stardust, @The Unknown Character, @coco.pudding, @Through the Living Hopper, @Mint11, @Qianweilian, @CoderDrag0n8, @|TJ| Second Reminder that most people if not all should be using their Bonus Action (some should probably use their main action-idk feels like something) to be grabbing the Agreement. Though I understand if people are not going to be on in the next hour. __________________________________________ FAVOR: Today we have currently 3 people providing favor, correct if wrong. Mint Coco Qian

Oh yeah, Just to let everyone know- The reason I'm caught on TUC/Coder being Elims and have been trying to shake myself out of that- what I was talking earlier and coco was asking about. I already told Mint but I'll tell thread about it since, Idk, end of the cyle. I don't think I'm going to die, and I'm gonna try to get out some more thoughts before the end of the cycle but first I'll just talk on this: Coder in his opening PM to me mentioned that he had heard I was a returning player. This was before he popped into thread the first time, probably very shortly before he did he sent me the PM. I asked him where he heard that, because immediately I had a hard time imagining myself come up in conversation in a PM, He had not been in thread to see TUC's post about everyone, and even if I did come up in conversation...he didn't seem very...conversational? it had to have been a direct ask. I then asked him about it, and he said that it had come up in conversation with TUC, as he had PMs with TUC and Hoid. I had also said something else in the PM unrelated and he didn't respond to that part. Then when I asked TUO, who responded in thread without prompting (to his merit), he, well, I mean you can see the responses. It was basically him saying Coder asked him about me, which, while not completely conflicting with Coder's story...doesn't really match how I truly want it to. Anyways. Derps like this- from the Elims- Are rarely trustworthy, and when they are real they are still hard to go on. Hence me trying to move conversation and my mind away from this potential world. Just gonna put this out there though. Could be dangerous to but i figure idk why not free information.

If you weren't voting for Hoid out of self-pres, where do you think you'd be voting? Last cycle you tried to stay away from his wagon, so just wondering.

Any thoughts on those who are ?

Every other, I may have forgotten when this started so I actually think rollover is tomorrow. Lol.

@Hoid Slayer, @Stardust, @The Unknown Character, @coco.pudding, @Through the Living Hopper, @Mint11, @Qianweilian, @CoderDrag0n8, @|TJ| I'm just going to boost what Grub said earlier about axies- Everyone should be going for it this round. It's a big step closer to losing the game if the Elims get it. Additionally, I believe everyone, or most people, should use their bonus action slot to go for it (unblockable action.) I'm headed to work until an hour before rollover, so I'm submitting now and hope that all of you do to. -- I was looking through some old games, they're extremely convoluted recently so it's not working too well lol. I think I'm standing by my read of coco. I think one thing that's silly but is standing in between me and village reading Qian, is the use of "last village game." again, it's silly, and the fact that they reference a village game at first is a good sign. Were they an Elim in lg112? I think their comparing Myst to that is interesting if so... I'm spitballing waiting to clock into work. But yeah. If Qain was an Elim in LG112, then I think that he is still more likely a villager here. It's still hard to compare anything to LG112 or the game Aman ran, which seem to be the more recent games. Was LG111 FFA? I'm so lost. Either way I'm NGL I do think that I don't wanna kill Qian today. I think his defensiveness isn't AI, considering his other content having been engaged. People are focusing on his first and last posts- and self preservation isn't AI in and of itself. I really want people to talk about Qian more if they are voting on him. There is a lot of votes (3 I believe), for basically self-pres and his defensiveness in the beginning. Can we start looking at more than this ? Qian do you have any comments on what's been said so far? Late to work now but I'll see yall later. If you do nothing else, grab Axies. Elims will be. We gotta be too.