Stick. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 What we know: There is a village, there are elims. There is an exe. Elims can win by hammering votes on Kas or Fifth at parity, or otherwise executing a villager and winning by outnumbering. Kas and Fifth are ONLY exeable at parity (this is a question I asked before the game began, don't try to kill for me knowing this ). PMs are closed, but Archer is putting on a show of apparently using them. We don't know when parity is, but it's probably a good idea to not leave the exe unconsolidated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, _Stick_ said: There is a village, there are elims. There is an exe. Elims can win by hammering votes on Kas or Fifth at parity, or otherwise executing a villager and winning by outnumbering. Kas and Fifth are ONLY exeable at parity (this is a question I asked before the game began, don't try to kill for me knowing this ). Extremely tempted to vote you for this tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Okay. Anyways. StrikerEZ Walin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Quote TBF I started to search "what happened in 1972", and Bing decided to autofill for 2022, then 1776... gee, what happened then... Anyway, Watergate happened in 1972. Quote Edit: Oh. There was a new page. Well. Uh... make of this what you will. Edited January 27, 2023 by Ashbringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said: Extremely tempted to vote you for this tbh For giving away elim secrets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, _Stick_ said: For giving away elim secrets? For knowing it and not actually have direct evidence that you asked Kas before the game. Perhaps that is too tinfoily of a theory for D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted January 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Kas and Fifth are ONLY exeable at parity (this is a question I asked before the game began, don't try to kill for me knowing this ). I should further clarify this is info I'm happy to clarify early because the version of the public rules the committee received included this clarification. Attempts to exe either of us prior to parity will be considered invalid votes, e.g. as if you guys decided to vote for Gozer the Gozerian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xinoehp512 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: What we know: There is a village, there are elims. There is an exe. Elims can win by hammering votes on Kas or Fifth at parity, or otherwise executing a villager and winning by outnumbering. Kas and Fifth are ONLY exeable at parity (this is a question I asked before the game began, don't try to kill for me knowing this ). PMs are closed, but Archer is putting on a show of apparently using them. We don't know when parity is, but it's probably a good idea to not leave the exe unconsolidated. Technically speaking we don't KNOW there are elims. We know that an elim faction exists in the ruleset, we don't know if there any players currently assigned that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Anyone who played LG71 should remember LG15a and LG15b, and why there is an A and B... Or, you know, some people who were around way back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Kasimir said: I should further clarify this is info I'm happy to clarify early because the version of the public rules the committee received included this clarification. Attempts to exe either of us prior to parity will be considered invalid votes, e.g. as if you guys decided to vote for Gozer the Gozerian. For no particular reason, would it be allowed if I wanted to change my RP character to Gozer the Gozerian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said: Technically speaking we don't KNOW there are elims. We know that an elim faction exists in the ruleset, we don't know if there any players currently assigned that role. It's also possible that there aren't any villagers. I imagine that in that case the doc would be too cluttered for anyone to get a grip on anything that's going on and we immediately all become suspicious of each other and incite a civil war, thus providing the necessary blood sacrifice to Kasimir to finish their nationwide transumatation circle and subsequently creating the world's largest philosopher's stone and attaining God. Edited January 27, 2023 by Channelknight Fadran 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted January 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: For no particular reason, would it be allowed if I wanted to change my RP character to Gozer the Gozerian? Sure? Gozer the Gozerian votes would count then, just FYI 3 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Anyone who played LG71 should remember LG15a and LG15b, and why there is an A and B... Spoiler It's why this rule clarification exists - I don't trust the Village to remember we're a valid route to the Elim wincon and to block a hammer. Hence blocking the problem by only having votes for either Fifth or myself become valid at parity. Edited January 27, 2023 by Kasimir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, StrikerEZ said: For knowing it and not actually have direct evidence that you asked Kas before the game. Perhaps that is too tinfoily of a theory for D1 Fair There's a reason I didn't bother voting Kas pre-game, even though I know it was mostly just a joke. 2 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said: Technically speaking we don't KNOW there are elims. We know that an elim faction exists in the ruleset, we don't know if there any players currently assigned that role. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kasimir said: Sure? Gozer the Gozerian votes would count then, just FYI So you lied when you said they wouldn't just before this. Which means that the GMs can lie. Which means that we can't trust anything they say. Not even who dies! Guys I've solved the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted January 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: So you lied when you said they wouldn't just before this. Ah, but you were Kjell then. Not my problem if you choose to play the exact target of my example You, an ostensible philosopher, should know better than to confuse a synchronic truth claim with a diachronic truth claim :eyes: FWIW, as I notice the vcs seem to not tally with mine: People please @ me if you notice anything awry. Quote Archer (2): Devotary of Spontaneity, Walin The Wandering Wizard (2): Matrim's Dice, xinoehp512 Amanuensis (1): The Wandering Wizard Danex (1): Stick JNV (1): TJ Orlok Tsubodai (1): Amanuensis Walin (1): Channelknight Fadran xinoehp512 (1): Archer Edited to add: This is brought to you courtesy of auto votecount, which saves lives. Or, as it may be, damns them in some cases. Edited January 27, 2023 by Kasimir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yay! Congratulations for Biplet and Striker! I don't really understand what would make someone suspicious, but I hear around here we kill our friends, so the obvious vote is Striker (ooc: ya know I love ya Striker :P) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Ajah Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Biplet said: Hello I am biplet, no one else, just biplet, that's all Doubtful. 1 hour ago, Kasimir said: No, counterfactual orders is for another ruleset Drake and I were working on which allows players to win in multiple timelines and possible worlds. Our current view is it's probably maybe a tad more complicated than KKC but the rules fit on two pages. 4D SE with Multiverse Time travel? 1 hour ago, Channelknight Fadran said: The War of 1812 took place in 1972 Understandable, have a nice day. 57 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: Biplet StrikerEZ My Sanity Fadran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: My Sanity Fadran Now now - if you're going to be out voting people like that then you should at least be up-to-date about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|TJ| Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: It's also possible that there aren't any villagers. I imagine that in that case the doc would be too cluttered for anyone to get a grip on anything that's going on and we immediately all become suspicious of each other and incite a civil war, thus providing the necessary blood sacrifice to Kasimir to finish their nationwide transumatation circle and subsequently creating the world's largest philosopher's stone and attaining God. slippery slip woosh. this feels like elim or neutral slip. woosh. no reason to think of a case where there are no goodies unless you are not a goodie in the first place! fadran j-envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: The truth is that there are no villagers? Ô_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 It's all Kasimir's plan! The upper ranks and MPs are in on it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: It's all Kasimir's plan! The upper ranks and MPs are in on it too! How many people are there in your doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 What doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: 4D SE with Multiverse Time travel? Hey that's Lamentation's thing But I think this is probably a Dark / Doctor Who thing. Dannnnnex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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