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Shardcast: Isles of the Emberdark Previews (ft. ReadAndFindOut)


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We have the announcement for Secret Project 5, and it's called Isles of the Emberdark, and oh boy... it sure is high cosmere connectivity! There's so much to discuss, so let's dig in. We also discuss the announcement itself, so feel free to skip to 30:52 for discussion of the chapters!

This episode we have a very special guest, Steve of the wonderful cosmere YouTube channel, ReadAndFindOut (https://www.youtube.com/c/ReadAndFindOutCosmere), which you should all check out because he does great explainers. It was lovely to have him on! We also have Eric (Chaos), Veronica (Cheyenne Sedai), Ene (Aon Ene), and Ala (Rasarr)!

Words of Radiance campaign: https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound
Brandon's announcement video: https://youtu.be/X9HEKnswsy0?si=P1XG1vIQ4_OqnMOi
Isles of the Emberdark sample chapters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0L06Y37W70
Brandon's stream with Isles of the Emberdark's artist: https://www.youtube.com/live/xjsKRmXaPcA?si=LxwBnWalZj2ri6lZ

Veronica's article on Audible: https://www.17thshard.com/news/brandon-news/brandon-works-with-audible-for-a-historic-deal-in-the-audiobook-industry-r1039/
Old Sixth of the Dusk 2 reading: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/448-row-release-party/#e14408
Our old Sixth of the Dusk 2 podcast: https://youtu.be/kM0sfy7IzXU?si=SyQJK_iZk3_e6M5D

0:00 Introductions
1:54 Intro thoughts on the announcement 
10:46 Flashbacks thoughts and Emberdark
23:35 Other Words of Radiance campaign news 
30:52 Prologue
46:35 Chapter 3
1:04:01 Chapter 11
2:02:08 Who's That Cosmere Character

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Now that this podcast pointed it out “main character unlocks their powers in the last few pages and saves the day” really is most of his cosmere books. 
 

Elantris, all of SA (Kaladin, Kaladin, Dalinar, Navani) Bands of Mourning, Warbreaker
 

Not necessarily a criticism but it does happen a lot. I feel like MB era 1 didn’t do it as much. More like they just figured out a secret involving magic. Or completely screwed up depending. 

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10 hours ago, Child of Hodor said:

Now that this podcast pointed it out “main character unlocks their powers in the last few pages and saves the day” really is most of his cosmere books. 
 

Elantris, all of SA (Kaladin, Kaladin, Dalinar, Navani) Bands of Mourning, Warbreaker
 

Not necessarily a criticism but it does happen a lot. I feel like MB era 1 didn’t do it as much. More like they just figured out a secret involving magic. Or completely screwed up depending. 

TFE was guilty of this and in a really bad way. The ending was an absolute deus ex machina where Vin used a new power that came out of nowhere and was only explained in the sequels. At least in the other examples you gave, there was foreshadowing (not counting Warbreaker as I haven't read it yet).

Makes me happy that I didn't start out reading Mistborn as it is something that would absolutely make me put a book down and not bother picking up the sequels. Granted, as his popularity grew, I would have probably picked up another title, especially once I found out that TFE was only his second published novel. Besides that, I almost always give an author a second (sometimes third) chance if I didn't like one of their books.

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3 hours ago, Maze said:

TFE was guilty of this and in a really bad way. The ending was an absolute deus ex machina where Vin used a new power that came out of nowhere and was only explained in the sequels. At least in the other examples you gave, there was foreshadowing (not counting Warbreaker as I haven't read it yet).

Makes me happy that I didn't start out reading Mistborn as it is something that would absolutely make me put a book down and not bother picking up the sequels. Granted, as his popularity grew, I would have probably picked up another title, especially once I found out that TFE was only his second published novel. Besides that, I almost always give an author a second (sometimes third) chance if I didn't like one of their books.

Oh that's right she hulks out to tear the things out with magic. And yes that one was not really built to. 

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On 3/28/2024 at 8:12 AM, Child of Hodor said:

Oh that's right she hulks out to tear the things out with magic. And yes that one was not really built to. 

Thank you for that image of a buff Vin. Puny god. 

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During the discussion of cities around perpendicularities, I got this image of a perpedicularity on a coast somewhere, with half of the city on land on the shadesmar side and the other half on land on the physical side. A symmetrical city where you can never see the full image at once. 

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On 3/28/2024 at 12:17 AM, Child of Hodor said:

Now that this podcast pointed it out “main character unlocks their powers in the last few pages and saves the day” really is most of his cosmere books. 
 

Elantris, all of SA (Kaladin, Kaladin, Dalinar, Navani) Bands of Mourning, Warbreaker
 

Not necessarily a criticism but it does happen a lot. I feel like MB era 1 didn’t do it as much. More like they just figured out a secret involving magic. Or completely screwed up depending. 

That's for sure. 🫡

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