Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

5 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

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*colored 

[Lord Meeker he/him]

21 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

You can type out

(color="red")  (/color)  for red

(color="green")  (/color)  for green

(color="blue")  (/color)  for blue

I just type /blue on my mobile and it makes the text blue? Or do I type a sentence they say that it was blue?

21 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

If you have an iphone (I don't know if you can do this on Android, but probably) you can go into Settings > General > Keyboard > Text Replacement 

I'll check this out.

I am on my computer BTW.

Edit:

59 minutes ago, Elenion said:

When I made my first post on D1, I talked about Jeskeri and Derethi Pendants about equally, and proposed a plan for dealing with both. Then I went to sleep and discussion around Jeskeri pendants basically died out, but Derethi Pendants were still being debated about, so I joined that discussion. That led to Drake realizing that some Derethi might not claim, which necessitated more discussion. Here I even tried to restart discussion about the Jeskeri, but that didn't go anywhere either. It's not that I've been exclusively focused on the Derethi; there are just more things about them to discuss, because the Jeskeri are similar to the generic elim faction that we face every game in a row.

Okay. I'll believe you, but can I trust you? 

I really want to trust Elenion, Bort and Drake Marshall, but I don't want to be stabbed in the back.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Mraize

[Herowannabe he/him]

8 minutes ago, Mraize said:

I just type /blue on my mobile and it makes the text blue? Or do I type a sentence they say that it was blue?

No you have to type out the full html code before and after the text you want to color (which is why I prefer to set up the keyboard shortcuts).

for example 

(Color=“blue”) Hero is the best GM ever (/Color) 

but replacing the ( and ) with [ and ] should give you 

Hero is the best GM ever   

Edited April 11, 2018 by Herowannabe

[Lord Meeker he/him]

Just now, Herowannabe said:

No you have to type out the full html code before and after the text you want to color (which is why I prefer to set up the keyboard shortcuts).

for example 

(Color=“blue”) Hero is the best GM ever (/Color) 

but replacing the ( and ) with [ and ] would give you 

Hero is the best GM ever   

That is exhausting. But I think that I'll keep to Rp at night and discuss during the day.

[Bort he/him]

Sorry. This has taken far longer than I thought it would. Too many interruptions.

2 hours ago, Mraize said:

Just looking at this list, I do feel the cross vote, Kidpen & Bort, know something I don't and it is bugging me.

I don't know something you don't. I just don't think it's a good idea for your first post in a game to claim you are an eliminator, especially in your first game, when it is immediately followed up with (paraphrasing) "Don't mind me, I do this all the time, I'm just kidding." People get into the habit of brushing it off, and when she in an eliminator, she gets a free pass because, well, she always jokes like that.

2 hours ago, Elenion said:

My vote on Bort is because he went after players so strongly for their joking.

My vote at the time was on Joe, someone who only had one vote them - mine. It is day one, and with no real suspicions other than what people say and do in the thread. Do I think their jokes are bad taste, not because they are bad jokes, but because they can cause villager complacency? Yes, especially when included with a claim that this is something that is going to occur in every game that player takes part in. If that happens, people will become complacent to it, and Kidpen will have quite an advantage when she is an eliminator.

I only shifted my vote to Kidpen when both you and she ganged up on me. This pushed me into the danger zone of potentially dying in the first cycle (and who wants to die in the first cycle? No-one, right?), so I shifted my vote to push one of the people voting on me into the danger zone to increase my chances of survival. Tell me you wouldn't do the same?

3 hours ago, Mraize said:

Perhaps. I partly don't want to kill Kidpen right now because she is a firstie, like me.

I can respect that, and I don't really want to either. As you say, it's her first game and that would be rather unfortunate. I'll remove my vote from @Kidpen if she is willing to remove hers from me. That will put us both back down onto one vote. As I explained above, the only reason my vote is on her, and not still on Joe, is because she voted to put me into the danger zone. It is about 8.15pm here now. I will be heading to bed at about 11.30. If she retracts during that time, I will do the same before I go to bed.

I might consider retracting it anyway if others end up with two or more votes, purely because I agree with Mraize, but for now, the vote stays.

Edit: I really like the tagging feature for trying to get someone's attention. We didn't have that in the old days.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Bort

[Lord Meeker he/him]

7 minutes ago, Bort said:

I don't know something you don't. I just don't think it's a good idea for your first post in a game to claim you are an eliminator, especially in your first game, when it is immediately followed up with (paraphrasing) "Don't mind me, I do this all the time, I'm just kidding." People get into the habit of brushing it off, and when she in an eliminator, she gets a free pass because, well, she always jokes like that.

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Good point. That is something I did not think of. But I am going to hold off on a vote just now.

[Bort he/him]

1 minute ago, Mraize said:

Good point. That is something I did not think of. But I am going to hold off on a vote just now.

There's a reason it's called the long game, lol.

[Lord Meeker he/him]

7 minutes ago, Bort said:

There's a reason it's called the long game, lol.

Yeah. I know  . But I meant hold off my vote until the end of the day, just before night begins.

[Kidpen he/him]

16 minutes ago, Bort said:

 

I don't know something you don't. I just don't think it's a good idea for your first post in a game to claim you are an eliminator, especially in your first game, when it is immediately followed up with (paraphrasing) "Don't mind me, I do this all the time, I'm just kidding." People get into the habit of brushing it off, and when she in an eliminator, she gets a free pass because, well, she always jokes like that.

I only shifted my vote to Kidpen when both you and she ganged up on me. This pushed me into the danger zone of potentially dying in the first cycle (and who wants to die in the first cycle? No-one, right?), so I shifted my vote to push one of the people voting on me into the danger zone to increase my chances of survival. Tell me you wouldn't do the same?

I can respect that, and I don't really want to either. As you say, it's her first game and that would be rather unfortunate. I'll remove my vote from @Kidpen if she is willing to remove hers from me. That will put us both back down onto one vote. As I explained above, the only reason my vote is on her, and not still on Joe, is because she voted to put me into the danger zone. It is about 8.15pm here now. I will be heading to bed at about 11.30. If she retracts during that time, I will do the same before I go to bed.

Alright. Bort. I'll decide who I want to vote on for real later. It's relevant to say that I didn't mean it as in "I'm just kidding", my intention was that I didn't want people to think I was just being dumb and thought I was supposed to give away my role. And yes, that is one hundred percent my plan for the future.

[Bort he/him]

As promised... Kidpen.

[Elenion he/him]

@Bort This was the post in which you voted on Joe

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Ok, day one suspicions...

Kidpen, for his very early eliminator claim. Dangerous move, playing it risky regardless of his alignment. If he is village, then he is making a bad joke. If he is eliminator, he is hoping it will be assumed to be a bad joke. Also, he claims to "always claim to be an eliminator," but having never before played alongside Kidpen, I do not know how true this is. Can anyone who has played with him before chip in on this?

Young Pyromancer, for his very early cycle SHOUTING... Don't shout that early on please. Some folks are still in bed

A Joe In The Bush, for his DensiTea pun (oh, and his discussion of 'the doc'.. Only a mind as twisted as a Jeskeri could come up with a pun that terrible. (Side note, well played Joe, brilliant pun).

Drake Marshall, for his and Joe's references to their 'doc'. Granted, I suspect they are just trolling us all, but that could just as easily be the point. We dismiss them as trolls, where they are counting on that, and so manage to sneak under the radar as we concentrate on other people.

Steel, for his comment about the Jeskeri making no point. Joe should be on the list for this too, but he is already here for something else, so that's really two marks against Joe's name now.

Out of these five, it wouldn't surprise me to discover that one of them really is a Cultist. Probably just one of them though. I might be back to change this by the end of the day, but for now, Joe.

You don't specify why you vote on Joe out of all of your suspects, and before you vote on Joe you say that you think one of those 5 is an elim. You might be right, because standard elim team size is about 20% of total, but I don't think that that field of 5 is any more likely to contain a Jeskeri than, say, the last 5 players that posted in-thread. That's why I put my vote on you.

[Bort he/him]

Why Joe? Out of all of them he made the most 'points' of them all.

It started as a joke vote because of the terrible pun, but then I realised that he was also in on the bad joke crowd, and that he was also involved in the discussion about not worrying about the Jeskeri.

Everyone else on the list was only involved in one of those.

That said, it is still the first cycle, and I would prefer not to see anyone lynched by my hand, so the final point was that I wanted someone who didn't yet have a vote. You and Kidpen forced me into doing something to help my chances of survival.

[Hemalurgic Headshot he/him]

Sorry for not posting, I've been a little busy, but now I'm caught up on the thread. It was hard to sift through what discussion there was out of all of the RP going on (Though its totally great, don't stop), but what is there is typical of D1.

Though there hasn't been much argument on whether there should be a lynch or not. Interesting, since there usually is, but I think most everyone agrees on a lynch? Perhaps I missed something. Either way, the only way we can get solid information to start the game is with a lynch, in my opinion. Kidpen and Bort went back and forth at each other, but that's pretty NAI. Honestly, most everything was NAI, except for the pendant discussion, which I felt was eager to point fingers. It doesn't spark any sort of gut read though.

I think I will just push this little bandwagon along, Badger.

---

It wasn't actually anyone. Reth watched the person pass by, moving quite frantically, presumably from stress, then returned to his relaxed state.

Except he couldn't focus anymore. The person, hidden in the crowd now, had ruined his concentration! He scowled, but there was nothing he could do about it now. Best get some work done.

[Straw he/him]

@Bort I voted on Honey Badger as a poke vote, to give him an incentive to post. @The Honey Badger

Edited April 11, 2018 by Straw
@mentioned the wrong person.

[Kidpen he/him]

Why would we argue about whether there’s going to be a lynch? The rules seem like they imply there always is.

[Eternum he/him]

Heeeelllooo everyone! So, sorry for being inactive. Life got the better of me, basically. But I'm back now, and better than ever, with 4-ish hours left on the clock! Yay..?

I don't have much analysis to offer, and the only people that stood out to me are Araris and Bort. I'll talk about Araris later, maybe next cycle, but for now, Bort.

Len has already pointed out the first big thing, Bort's vote on Joe. Out of his five suspicions (few of which seem legitimate, honestly), Joe has been the most helpful so far, along with Drake. Participating in discussion, etc. It strikes me as odd why he didn't vote on Kidpen to begin with, or even Steel.

Second, that little exchange between him and Mraize in page 5 just.. strikes me as odd. It gives me elim vibes, honestly-- two elims pretending to slowly begin to trust each-other in the thread, so later-on they have a better excuse when defending each-other.

Third, this:

1 hour ago, Bort said:

That said, it is still the first cycle, and I would prefer not to see anyone lynched by my hand, so the final point was that I wanted someone who didn't yet have a vote.

This, this is just weird. So what if your lynch proposal actually gets lynched? You seemed to be voting on people you genuinely suspect, not voting half-heartedly just for the sake of discussion. I would have accepted the latter, had you not actually expressed suspicion of Joe, however.

Basically, why are you voting on Joe, and then Kidpen, if you don't want them lynched? And why are you so worried about your lynch succeeding? It just reeks of elim to me-- Discussing, but trying not to take the discussion anywhere. So, for now I'll vote on Bort.

22 minutes ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said:

I think I will just push this little bandwagon along, Badger.

..HH, this is just a bad move all-around. We need a solid lynch, and we gain next to no info by lynching an inactive right now. The first vote on Badger was not a lynch attempt, it was a poke vote. Why, exactly, are you trying to make it out to be a bandwagon, and why are you hopping on for no given reason?

@STINK Enerin the storyteller will meet the Imperial Mint as soon as he possibly can. He is a busy and very homeless man at the moment. So, once he has arranged for housing in the nearest inn, he will come to entertain the Imperial Mint with stories and legends of lands the likes of which few have seen!

Edited April 11, 2018 by Eternum
Typo.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I'm going to have to agree with Eternum here, and vote on Bort. Half the fun in this game is killing people, and kudos to you if you were responsible for the day's lynch. It means the rest of us now have something solid to read off of you. Not wanting that to happen is equivalent to wanting to stay hidden.

[Kidpen he/him]

That makes sense, but I just barely stopped voting for him, and I find it difficult to find fault in anyone. So I'll hold off for now.

[Steeldancer he/him]

3 hours ago, Mraize said:

I just type /blue on my mobile and it makes the text blue? Or do I type a sentence they say that it was blue?

I'll check this out.

I am on my computer BTW.

Edit:

Okay. I'll believe you, but can I trust you? 

I really want to trust Elenion, Bort and Drake Marshall, but I don't want to be stabbed in the back.

Word to the wise- trust no one absolutely. No one.

im going to try and finish my homework and then I’ll vote. 

[DeTess she/her]

48 minutes ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said:

I think I will just push this little bandwagon along, Badger.

Given that we've got pinch-hitters, I really don't see how this is helping anyone, HH. 

As for the Bort/Kidpen discussion, I can see a case for lynching Bort, but not so much for lynching Kidpen. Kidpen's opening was just weird, but it attracts attention in a way elims probably wouldn't enjoy. Why open with saying that you're an elim in the hope that people will just brush it off as a joke if you could also not do that, keeping you out of the spotlight?

Elenion does seem to have a point about how Bort seemed too aggressive, but I'm still wary of him because of the way he phrased that initial accusation.

1 hour ago, Bort said:

It started as a joke vote because of the terrible pun, but then I realised that he was also in on the bad joke crowd, and that he was also involved in the discussion about not worrying about the Jeskeri.

I haven't seen any discussion about not worrying about Jeskeri. I have seen people discussing ways to counter the Derethi because that's just easier to discuss right now because of the mechanics involved. 

Actually, HH, Bort. Bort seems to be grasping for reasons and justification for why he did what he did, which just feels off. I do suspect HH, and if Bort flips elim HH will be my next suspicion, as his vote for Badger could have been intended to save a team-mate.

[STINK he/him]

8 hours ago, Steeldancer said:

I pulled my trenchcoat up tight, and headed to the royal palace. It really was too bright outside during the day. 
"My king, I need a breath mint. Can I eat you? My breath has got to be fresh before I go face this lady." 

Be glad that I do not punish you here and now for your suggestion. Any further questions along these lines will net a punishment, insolent human.

7 hours ago, Bort said:

Daoate let out a sharp gasp at the Imperial Mint's words. Had he really just referred to himself as just "Mint" and left out the "Imperial" part? Shockingly minty fresh.

Also, does anyone else really want to see the Imperial Mint get stabbed? I do, if only so we can start using Polo jokes ("Polo: The Mint with a hole").

Indeed, Mint is capable of referring to himself as Mint. For Mint is always Imperial to Mint, and does not like to waste epithets on himself needlessly. However, I am pleased that you are paying attention to such things. Keep this up, and good things may come to you.

Actually, retract that last sentence. I must also reprimand you about this line of thought. One does not impale their one true king, as a general rule.

6 hours ago, Bort said:

Imperial Mint, why the vote on Straw? Was it as simple as he forgot to include the Imperial part of your mintyness?

One does not rise to royalty without some skills, my goodman. I advise to you the skill of listening to your elders, so that you may also develop during your time here.

34 minutes ago, Eternum said:

 

@STINKEnerin the storyteller will meet the Imperial Mint as soon as he possibly can. He is a busy and very homeless man at the moment. So, once he has arranged for housing in the nearest inn, he will come to entertain the Imperial Mint with stories and legends of lands the likes of which few have seen!

While Mint does regret that you are not able to attend to me swiftly, one does understand that certain requirements must be met before a presentation to a better being. 

I look forward to further correspondence, Enerin.

[Kidpen he/him]

Sorry Bort. I may have kind of maybe accidentaly gotten everybody to vote for you.

*quietly* Yes... My plan worked. Now everyone suspects Bort instead of me! Mwahahahahahaha! *quietly*

[Arinian]

Hmm... Well, looks like it's time to be not very useful! 

(First I want to ask people not to lynch Straw, no, just no, pls.) 

List:

Bort. 

10 hours ago, Bort said:

Kidpen, for his very early eliminator claim. Dangerous move, playing it risky regardless of his alignment. If he is village, then he is making a bad joke. If he is eliminator, he is hoping it will be assumed to be a bad joke. Also, he claims to "always claim to be an eliminator," but having never before played alongside Kidpen, I do not know how true this is. Can anyone who has played with him before chip in on this?

Young Pyromancer, for his very early cycle SHOUTING... Don't shout that early on please. Some folks are still in bed

A Joe In The Bush, for his DensiTea pun (oh, and his discussion of 'the doc'.. Only a mind as twisted as a Jeskeri could come up with a pun that terrible. (Side note, well played Joe, brilliant pun).

Drake Marshall, for his and Joe's references to their 'doc'. Granted, I suspect they are just trolling us all, but that could just as easily be the point. We dismiss them as trolls, where they are counting on that, and so manage to sneak under the radar as we concentrate on other people.

Steel, for his comment about the Jeskeri making no point. Joe should be on the list for this too, but he is already here for something else, so that's really two marks against Joe's name now.

I can understand his list of suspects, will add my thoughts on this players.

Kidpen's move really was dangerous and many not very informative posts from Kidpen looked like attempt to look villager(or to fly under radar still looking active). But it's his first game right? I don't like to lynch newplayers and because I haven't played with him before my judgment about him feels even more flimsy. I'm not going to vote for him now but will pay attention.

6 hours ago, Kidpen said:

Quick question: If you die but your faction wins in the end, do you still technically win?

This post strikes me little bit like post of doomed elim, still not going to change my decision.

Pyro it's wildcard, his behavior erratic and I would say that all what he done is NAI, comparing his behavior in this game and LG43 I would say that it didn't change. Neutral read for Pyro right now.

Joe. Statistically Joe ruins 97% of my plans, also very often when I'm villager Joe is elim(but it's not something that should be trusted, but if someone want we can try and lynch Joe just for science ). Okay, enough jokes. Joe is very honest guy, but  usually he says not all truth or changes it in way that will fit for his plans, but still it's truth. Couple games ago he was saying that strategy chosen by elims fits for him(and some other players) and you know what? He was elim. But Drake in my opinion more careful with his words and I don't think that elim!Drake would have done thing like that, I will say that all this humor around "doc" is NAI.

Steel... I didn't read his post and not I'm not going to do that... soo... someone go and read Steel's posts and analyze them 

On other players.

Mraize. I'm not looked through all of his posts but all this dancing around Bort and Len looks interesting. Anyway from all Mraize's posts I can say that he is somewhat indecisive, voted on Len then retracted, maybe new player confusion or hmm... not going to say more but also willl pay more attention to him. 

Ohh... looks like I wanted to talk about Bort but broke my leg on halfway. Back to Bort!

As people already said(while I was writing this post) Joe is not the best choice for voting, even if I can see(but honestly I don't think that it's case in this game) Joe pulling that trick with "doc" when he elim I doubt that Bort knew that about Joe(or at least that not what motivated his vote as I understood from his post). Also interactions between Mraize and Bort looked interesting and now I want to see one of them dead 

7 hours ago, Bort said:

Of course you agree with that, Elenion was defending you. Which makes me wonder, why?

Also some of Bort's post looked like attempt to grasp on something really flimsy, like that one. Assuming that one player defending other player so early is suspicious not something very... hmm... something not very not sure what I wanted to say. But my gut says that it's looks not very nice.

I will vote for Bort.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Arinian

[Kidpen he/him]

Glad to know that the one post I didn't directly imply or say I was elim is the one that pushes you most toward me being the elim.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

I agree with Arinian.  

Also, I have RL constraints that have been getting in the way.

12 minutes ago, Arinian said:

Young Pyromancer, for his very early cycle SHOUTING... Don't shout that early on please. Some folks are still in bed

(It's actually from Bort, not Arin.)  I still don't get what this means.