Illwei Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Condensation said: Wait--I'm confused. What does this mean? What's AI and NAI, and what do the different colored things mean? NAI meant Not Alignment Indicative? and AI means Alignment Indicative. uh...the different colors in my post means basically nothing.
Condensation she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Illwei said: NAI meant Not Alignment Indicative? and AI means Alignment Indicative. uh...the different colors in my post means basically nothing. Okay. Yeah, I do talk a lot. Sorry. How else do you explain over 4,000 posts in my first year when I was mostly inactive until like June? Edited October 24, 2020 by Condensation 1
Elandera she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 I'm here. Totally forgot about this game. Don't have time to read the novel's with of posts, but I'll try to catch up by tomorrow
Condensation she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Elandera said: I'm here. Totally forgot about this game. Don't have time to read the novel's with of posts, but I'll try to catch up by tomorrow *novels worth Sorry. I... do that a lot, but I don't want to stop. I'm excited to play with you, I guess?
Elkanah he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Elandera said: I'm here. Totally forgot about this game. Don't have time to read the novel's with of posts, but I'll try to catch up by tomorrow I've got a spreadsheet of the posts that I'm trying to figure out how to include in a post. Posting a link to my spreadsheet is apparently frowned upon. If it helps there are only about twenty relevant posts over the 8 pages. TL;DR: People are voting for mist for posting not alignment indicative things People are voting for me because I want people to claim to me and also because I am trying to tie myself to people so there is more information around if I die. I am most suspicious of Turtle; however, if Turtle is bad, then Condensation is too... and I'm having a hard time squaring two newer players as elims this game. 1
Illwei Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Elkanah said: I've got a spreadsheet of the posts that I'm trying to figure out how to include in a post. Posting a link to my spreadsheet is apparently frowned upon. If it helps there are only about twenty relevant posts over the 8 pages. ...Alarm bells. all of the Alarm bells. Mist, Elkanah. Please explain what is most off-putting about Turtle. EDIT: not that it's a very reliable read, haha, but Elkanah mentioning his spreadsheet sets off alarm bells for me right now. Edited October 24, 2020 by Illwei clarification
Elkanah he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Illwei said: Please explain what is most off-putting about Turtle. Sure, his poke vote on Mist who at the time had the second most posts of anyone. He retracts it and puts it again right after someone else votes on her because he thinks she might be the HI? Mimics the reason as a gut read. Reads Condensation as a villager for doing exactly what he did last game as an elim. I'm not sure why he is supporting me, but I'll admit that's part of why I haven't voted on him yet. I also don't want to remove him so early as a newer player. (even though I know how cunning he is :P). Whysper seems very logical and reasoned so far, so I don't think they are an elim. Although, I have no idea what their tells are. Aman hasn't said enough to get a read. You seem like you are trying to solve the game. Most of the rest of what's happened is completely NAI and often not even game relevant. Hence, I find Turtle the most suspicious. He has done three things that felt off to me and that's what I've got to work with 11 minutes ago, Illwei said: ...Alarm bells. all of the Alarm bells. I admit I'm no where near as skilled as Orlock, but I like his style and I'm trying to emulate it. Just because we were evil together the last time I tried this, doesn't mean I'm bad again As for village games where I have had a similar playstyle to this, there was both of Elandera's games at the start of this year and the game where you pocketed me. I had a very similar strategy in the "Choose your own Sanderson Adventure" game, but I was evil there and eliminated on day 1. LG 70 I felt was also similar to this, but as has been brought up, I was a non-village faction there too.
Illwei Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, Elkanah said: You seem like you are trying to solve the game Oh ho ho it is working :P. 1 minute ago, Elkanah said: I admit I'm no where near as skilled as Orlock, but I like his style and I'm trying to emulate it. Just because we were evil together the last time I tried this, doesn't mean I'm bad again Yes, yes...I know... Still.... Hrmmm... 2 minutes ago, Elkanah said: As for village games where I have had a similar playstyle to this, there was both of Elandera's games at the start of this year and the game where you pocketed me. I had a very similar strategy in the "Choose your own Sanderson Adventure" game, but I was evil there and eliminated on day 1. LG 70 I felt was also similar to this, but as has been brought up, I was a non-village faction there too Whysper, I also read through a few of his games (lol, from what you've said before you probably did too haha) and there are quite a few of his Village games where he isn't as chaotic as other times. (also what ever happened to the weird colored text thing?) I also think that I find Ventyl's comment about not voting Elkanah less strange after reading past games. He made a lot of comments like that as village, so most likely it's NAI IMO.
Turtle they/them Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) First thing: I am a she. It doesn't really bother me but it is kind of distracting. 6 hours ago, Elkanah said: Sure, his poke vote on Mist who at the time had the second most posts of anyone. He retracts it and puts it again right after someone else votes on her because he thinks she might be the HI? Mimics the reason as a gut read. Reads Condensation as a villager for doing exactly what he did last game as an elim. I'm not sure why he is supporting me, but I'll admit that's part of why I haven't voted on him yet. I also don't want to remove him so early as a newer player. (even though I know how cunning he is :P). Whysper seems very logical and reasoned so far, so I don't think they are an elim. Although, I have no idea what their tells are. Aman hasn't said enough to get a read. You seem like you are trying to solve the game. Most of the rest of what's happened is completely NAI and often not even game relevant. Hence, I find Turtle the most suspicious. He has done three things that felt off to me and that's what I've got to work with Ok, this is true. I read condensation as villager for asking a ton of questions, and I guess I could be wrong. Also, I sort of did that last game without really knowing what I was doing. I voted mist because she seemed to be going after me for not really any reasoning, even though it was a sort of half poke vote. Mist I'm... cunning? Wow. Ok. Yes, this is my second game and therefore (Fancy words!) I have no idea what the heck I'm doing. Again, I don't really support you, but at the same time I don't really think you are elim and your reasoning for saying what you did in LG15 (I think, whichever game Whysper quoted) was good. You know, wouldn't me feeling off this game be good? Because the only round I've ever played was one where we were both elims and I said next to nothing? Oh well. I guess this is me defending myself? I feel like the intimidation is only growing. Some of you guys are more intimidating than Ene. Rereading this I suppose it isn't very conclusive. I don't know what to do, okay? @Illwei If you have slightly more reasoning to vote Elkanah I will probably join in on the vote, though right now I'm not sure. Edited October 24, 2020 by eltruT Added more stuff (Reasoning for voting mist and last paragraph. Also, typos.)
Elandera she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Elkanah said: I've got a spreadsheet of the posts that I'm trying to figure out how to include in a post. Posting a link to my spreadsheet is apparently frowned upon. If it helps there are only about twenty relevant posts over the 8 pages. TL;DR: People are voting for mist for posting not alignment indicative things People are voting for me because I want people to claim to me and also because I am trying to tie myself to people so there is more information around if I die. I am most suspicious of Turtle; however, if Turtle is bad, then Condensation is too... and I'm having a hard time squaring two newer players as elims this game. Thanks! 7 hours ago, Illwei said: ...Alarm bells. all of the Alarm bells. I've tracked posts that closely before as village, so that's pretty nai to me. I don't like the premise of votes on Mist or Elkanah. I'll try to get a vote on someone else at least a few hours before rollover.
|TJ| he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Amanuensis said: After combing through the thread, no one so far has tripped as many alarm bells. What are your thoughts on Mist, and what do you think about my reasoning to vote for her i.e.: On 10/23/2020 at 9:54 AM, TJ Shade said: On 10/23/2020 at 3:33 AM, Mist said: Awakener: roleblocker: I'd recommend using your ability at night. It could be quite helpful to catch traitors. Elantrian: healer: I'd recommend using your ability as well. ....... Kandra: I'd recommend using this ability as well. Information is useful. Mistborn: be careful with your kill. Make it count. ..... Voidbringer: passive ability. Definitely helpful. Very very obvious stuff posted here. Suspicious. . 18 hours ago, Amanuensis said: I'm not a big fan of how many are on Mist. A bit concerned by this statement because there were only 3 votes at the time (which are not there anymore) and around 24+hrs left to the end of cycle, so I'm not sure why you would be worried. It felt like you were scaring off potential voters. 19 hours ago, eltruT said: I actually do have a bit of evidence I'm not elim: I was a elim I probably wouldn't have role claimed D1 as a regular because I would have asked the other elims with a lot more experience then me if I should do that, and they would probably fervently say no. Teammates of Turtle in the previous game, has she done this in the previous game? Asked you guys if she should or shouldn't do stuff? Have reasons for suspicion on Turtle, but will state them after getting an answer to this.
Turtle they/them Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TJ Shade said: Teammates of Turtle in the previous game, has she done this in the previous game? Asked you guys if she should or shouldn't do stuff? Have reasons for suspicion on Turtle, but will state them after getting an answer to this. So this isn't exactly what you wanted, but I found the elim doc of that game. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynrMvMtmMhuO_nVdaBwYSqtI11FR-kV0lsCJL2xoJaY/edit I guess you could look through this, though asking Elkanah or Ashbringer would probably be more helpful.
Vapor she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 I honestly haven’t been paying much attention to posting on this, just reading it... So what I’ve seen is that people are/were voting on Mist, I also think it’s a bit odd that Turtle took her vote off as soon as she was confronted by a couple people. I don’t get why people have ‘a feeling’ about Mist, so they vote her, that seems a bit suspicious to me. My siblings are nagging me to get off, I’ll be back on before rollover.
|TJ| he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eltruT said: So this isn't exactly what you wanted, but I found the elim doc of that game. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynrMvMtmMhuO_nVdaBwYSqtI11FR-kV0lsCJL2xoJaY/edit I guess you could look through this, though asking Elkanah or Ashbringer would probably be more helpful. This does not give any conclusive evidence, but I'll just tell the reasoning for my suspicion anyway. Exhibit - A: Votes on Mist because she agrees with my reasoning: 21 hours ago, eltruT said: Ok. Gosh. This is gonna sound so weird. mist This is mostly because I agree with what has been said by those voting for her. (Stating mostly obvious things to presumably appear helpful is one reason that I especially agree with.) If anyone wants more reasoning, I'm sure I could muster some up. It's also kind of a gut read thing. "Muster"ing up a reason doesn't sound good at all. Exhibit - B: Does not prefer Elkanah over Mist: 20 hours ago, eltruT said: 20 hours ago, Amanuensis said: My last post and Whysper's post before it should explain why. Not sure rewriting it would help much Ok, just looked at it. This makes sense, but not enough to make me switch my vote. Im sorry I took so long to respond. Exhibit - C: Directly contradicts Exhibit - A (on the reasoning for voting on Mist) : 4 hours ago, eltruT said: If you have slightly more reasoning to vote Elkanah I will probably join in on the vote, though right now I'm not sure. Previously, it wasn't enough to change to Elkanah, but now they're probably willing to join. These reasons are enough to put Turtle ahead of Mist in my suspicion order. eltruT. Mist. EDIT: Missed to quote the contradiction for Exhibit - C 4 hours ago, eltruT said: I voted mist because she seemed to be going after me for not really any reasoning, even though it was a sort of half poke vote. Mist Edited October 24, 2020 by TJ Shade Missed to quote a sentence.
Amanuensis he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TJ Shade said: What are your thoughts on Mist, and what do you think about my reasoning to vote for her i.e.: My thoughts on Mist? After a quick ISO, I think that they've been fairly helpful by answering questions, and have posted with relative frequency, roleplay included, which I appreciate. As for my thoughts on your vote, I do agree that elims may try to appear helpful with hopes of skating under the radar, but I also know that villagers often behave similarly, and how difficult it is to discern one from the other. Personally, I'd rather not have someone killed because they put in effort that other people don't find useful, as it could set a bad precedent for other villagers, thus preventing them from participating more. 2 hours ago, TJ Shade said: A bit concerned by this statement because there were only 3 votes at the time (which are not there anymore) and around 24+hrs left to the end of cycle, so I'm not sure why you would be worried. It felt like you were scaring off potential voters. As for this bit, I placed my vote on Elkanah with hopes of polarizing the lynch and observing people's reactions. Turtle joining the vote on mist seemed very opportunistic at the time, which caused me to wonder about an Elkanah/Turtle pairing, only to be reinforced by her aversion to join that vote as casually as she did Mist's. I also found Turtle's later removal of her vote suspicious as well, since it appeared to be unprompted within the thread (suggesting another player encouraged her to distance herself in doc). And... ninja'd. You reached the same conclusion, I see ED1T: To clarify, I voted for Elkanah because I agreed with Whysper that he was more focused on making himself look "good" than solving, regardless of any previous game's meta. As of right now, I suspect a Turtle/Elkanah pairing. ED2T: Read through Elkanah's posts now and realize Turtle was confronted in thread by him. The fact Elkanah said he was suspicious of her and still didn't vote makes the theory appear more plausible, imo, like both want to appear distant without any life-ending follow through. ED3T: 11 hours ago, Elkanah said: I am most suspicious of Turtle; however, if Turtle is bad, then Condensation is too... and I'm having a hard time squaring two newer players as elims this game. Emphasis is mine. I also don't like this comment. Elk's assuredness appears forced, like he's intentionally tying his teammate to a villager. ED4T: Current vote count because I have the time. Elkanah (3): Amanuensis, Whysper, Illwei, eltruT (2): Mist, TJ Shade, Devotary of Spontaneity (1): Ventyl, Illwei (1): Araris Valerian, Edited October 24, 2020 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Hmm. I should have done this earlier, but I'm going to retract from Illwei. I didn't catch that the original vote on Gears was a joke. While I had read Turtle as village earlier, I agree with TJ that Turtle's more recent posts are suspicious. I do think "having a gut read" and being able to "muster up a reason" are actually the same thing, so my suspicion comes more from the contradiction rather than the tone. Between Turtle and Elkanah, however, I think that Elkanah is more suspicious, since some of thing things Turtle has said that raise flags can be explained by being new.
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Hello. Sorry for not posting for a while. Can I get a vote count? @Illwei@Matrim's Dice? On 10/23/2020 at 10:01 AM, Condensation said: I don't know who to vote for. What's suspicious? I don't have enough experience. This is my second game and I feel the same way. For my first game, I just voted on whoever everyone else was voting on, and I lost. Ill try to be back on before rollover, although I may not be able to. I am just going to vote experience because he is my brother and he has posted 0 times
Mat he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: Hello. Sorry for not posting for a while. Can I get a vote count? @Illwei@Matrim's Dice? Straw is the GM, not Illwei, if that’s what you mean... I believe this is right: Elkanah (4): Amanuensis, Whysper, Illwei, Araris Valerian eltruT (2): Mist, TJ Shade, Devotary of Spontaneity (1): Ventyl Experience (1): The Windrunner Supreme
Straw he/him Posted October 24, 2020 Author Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: Hello. Sorry for not posting for a while. Can I get a vote count? @Illwei@Matrim's Dice? This is my second game and I feel the same way. For my first game, I just voted on whoever everyone else was voting on, and I lost. Ill try to be back on before rollover, although I may not be able to. I am just going to vote experience because he is my brother and he has posted 0 times Vote count: Elkanah (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Illwei, Whysper eltruT (2): Mist, TJ Shade Devotary of Spontaneity (1): Ventyl Experience (1): The Windrunner Supreme
Illwei Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, The Windrunner Supreme said: Can I get a vote count? @Illwei@Matrim's Dice? *Couch* I think you meant Straw *Couch* Okay, just realized that this day ends in about 3 hours...I guess things can wait until 2. I think Turtle's votes on Mist have been weird, but are completely different than Turtle last game. I do assume though that Elim!Turtle would be different, especially if they were on a team with Elk twice in a row in their first two games :P. Anyways, I just don't think that's the case. They do seem to be trying to justify their vote weirdly. - She votes on Mist at first as a poke, after mist has already been active - She then removes her vote, but votes again because she thinks Mist is the HI - She then removes her vote again, and then votes again because she thinks Mist is an Elim. This is not a case against turtle, this is for @eltruT to see and tell me what their thinking behind it is. Again, I don't think Turtle is an Elim, and I definitely don't think we should vote them out right now.. That being said...Elkanah. I just don't think enough has been said yet tbh. The main thing I don't trust about him was the mention of his spreadsheet, and the mention of his Meta. I think that right now, the Meta mention makes more sense than in a game not like this. There aren't just new players here, but someone who knows how to play, and found him immediately suspicious for something that he assumes is normal. The spreadsheet thing still...It's not just that he keeps a spreadsheet- I mean, I keep a spreadsheet too. it's that the spreadsheet thing is an easy way to let people know that you're actively participating or trying to solve the game without it having to be true. As for the argument about a Turtle/Elkanah Pairing, I don't think that's there yet. (I mean, I don't think Turtle is an Elim, so obviously hehe :P.) I'm also not so trusting of Araris right now, so the fact that he's voting on Elk now doesn't make me feel better. I think I'm still not feeling so good about Mist. I was just trying to re-read the cultist game because of that, but I got caught up in noticing my RNG luck. Man. Man. Wow. and then noticing pyro's actual throwing of the game but hehe anyways back on subject anyways-that game told me absolutely nothing. but I still don't like Mist's activity here. Someone said they like how she was answering questions and things, but that's easy to do no matter who you are. Her post about the roles was completely NAI and I think that would either swing one way or another at least slightly.
Elandera she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Illwei said: I think Turtle's votes on Mist have been weird, but are completely different than Turtle last game. 2 hours ago, TJ Shade said: This does not give any conclusive evidence, but I'll just tell the reasoning for my suspicion anyway. Exhibit - A: Votes on Mist because she agrees with my reasoning: On 10/23/2020 at 11:01 AM, eltruT said: Ok. Gosh. This is gonna sound so weird. mist This is mostly because I agree with what has been said by those voting for her. (Stating mostly obvious things to presumably appear helpful is one reason that I especially agree with.) If anyone wants more reasoning, I'm sure I could muster some up. It's also kind of a gut read thing. "Muster"ing up a reason doesn't sound good at all. Exhibit - B: Does not prefer Elkanah over Mist: 23 hours ago, eltruT said: 23 hours ago, Amanuensis said: My last post and Whysper's post before it should explain why. Not sure rewriting it would help much Ok, just looked at it. This makes sense, but not enough to make me switch my vote. Im sorry I took so long to respond. Exhibit - C: Directly contradicts Exhibit - A (on the reasoning for voting on Mist) : Both of those things seem to me like attributes of a new villager trying their best to participate, but floundering a little. Especially Illwei's comment that the acting is completely different from elim!Turtle from last game. Last game, they would have had teammates to consult and give them advice. If they're village, they're on their own and relying somewhat on the opinions of others they see as more experienced. Which often leads newer players to bandwagon votes. EDIT: Posted too early, sorry. 5 minutes ago, Illwei said: but I still don't like Mist's activity here. Someone said they like how she was answering questions and things, but that's easy to do no matter who you are. Her post about the roles was completely NAI and I think that would either swing one way or another at least slightly. So suspicious because she did a role breakdown and has been answering questions? Lots of players do role breakdowns, which is completely NAI, especially D1. And why would answering questions be bad? Edited October 24, 2020 by Elandera
Turtle they/them Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Illwei said: Couch* I think you meant Straw *Couch* I do love a good couch! 9 minutes ago, Illwei said: Okay, just realized that this day ends in about 3 hours...I guess things can wait until 2. I think Turtle's votes on Mist have been weird, but are completely different than Turtle last game. I do assume though that Elim!Turtle would be different, especially if they were on a team with Elk twice in a row in their first two games :P. Anyways, I just don't think that's the case. They do seem to be trying to justify their vote weirdly. - She votes on Mist at first as a poke, after mist has already been active - She then removes her vote, but votes again because she thinks Mist is the HI - She then removes her vote again, and then votes again because she thinks Mist is an Elim. This is not a case against turtle, this is for @eltruT to see and tell me what their thinking behind it is. Again, I don't think Turtle is an Elim, and I definitely don't think we should vote them out right now.. So I suppose the first thing I should do here is explain that mist was the first person I saw, hence the poke vote. My voting was weird because I wasn’t sure what to do, and I’m still not sure what to do, though I really don’t want to die. (I think its just this thing that we all don’t want to do.) I voted on mist again because I truly did think she was the HI, and removed it after people explained we shouldn’t lynch the HI because that’s not a good idea. And then I voted for her again because I thought she was acting odd and thought she might be elim, though I probably should see what her play style is. You also forgot to add that I removed my vote on mist again, but that doesn’t really matter.
Illwei Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Elandera said: So suspicious because she did a role breakdown and has been answering questions? Lots of players do role breakdowns, which is completely NAI, especially D1. And why would answering questions be bad? - I don't think the role breakdown was incredibly useful. I mean, maybe that's just a me thing because there are a lot of newer players here, so maybe it'll help them. It does also basically directly contradict something I was told in a game by Devotary (when they are Elim) which was use your double vote all the time very good. But it is NAI. - They only talked about suspicions once? in the past 48 hours. It was their basically 2nd post, and they voted Turtle for...voting on them. they also emphasized it was D1 so they didn't need more reason. their vote has stayed there. - Then they continue to be active and answer questions, and RP, but never address their suspicion again, even when people start talking about the Turtle situation.
Mist she/her Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) I've been at meetings for a while, which, while it hasn't prevented me from being on the Shard, has made me not want to do analysis. That said, I'm multitasking and reading through the thread again. I'll post reads hopefully before rollover. I think turtle's jumping around is kind of village. turtle Edit: when I say at, I mean on my computer, not physically at. Edited October 24, 2020 by Mist
Ookla-son-son-Ventyl Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Alright, I haven’t had too much time to be paying attention in detail with this game, but I’ll try to offer my opinions on the lynch. First off, Devotary, your safe... for now, I’ll keep you on my radar. I generally don’t like seeing people scape by by not posting a lot, or even trying to offer a lot of advice or thoughts on the game. And from your one post I can recall, I feel like that’s what you’re planning on doing here. Secondly, I agree with Aman and co.’s reasonings about Elkanah and Turtle. The thing is though, I have them at about an even suspicion level right now. But now that I think about it, Elkanah started the last game I played with them off in a very similar way. Which they acknowledged, but I find it too... (what’s the word?) to be a coincidence. In that game, Elk was the Monk, which was quite a problem for me considering my elim-ness. Now, in this game if they have a similar role, the HI, then I think it’d be beneficial for us to know if they are in fact the HI. If we know who the Intelligence is, not only will it be good to stop them from dying in the late game, but considering their lynch immunity, if it comes down to it, the Hemalurgist could stop a mislynch by bandwagoning the HI. I know people were saying we shouldn’t lynch the HI, but if we can get them early and find out who they are, we’d be able to protect them, and allow the Hemalurgist to pull off this gambit in the future. So I think the reward outweighs the risk. So in the name of finding the HI, I’ll vote Elkanah. Though, I do think Turtle as been quite suspicious... so perhaps if we can arrange a tie on them and let RNG decide our future that might be a good way to go. ——————————————————————————— Lafay Etteax was a hypocrite. He’d always said he despised Hemalurgy, and it was true. Sure, it was one of the most interesting and useful magics in the Cosmere, yet it came at such a high cost. He was no Windrunner, but that didn’t mean he’d throw away life for power. He was still a Radiant after all. Yet, if others knew about the electrum spike in his side, he was sure they’d view him in a much different light. He’d been born a Soother, but he had another Allomantic ability along with his Radiancy. Lafay was also a Leecher. Not a natural one of course. Scadrians could only be born with the ability to burn one metal or all of them. Hemalurgy broke that rule. One could steal someone’s ability and then give it to themselves using a Hemalurgic spike, but this meant the original user of the power had to die. This was Lafay’s hypocrisy. He denounced Hemalurgy, but he himself had a Spike. So, when he realized what ship he’d boarded on First of the Sun, he feared that his secret would be discovered by the ships’ Hemalurgist. What would they think when they found out that the stranger who’d appeared on their ship and denounced their creation, was a product of Hemalurgy himself? They wouldn’t care that he’d received the spike not out of his own free will. They would only see him as a hypocrite. And he would agree.
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