asterion137 he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 lol 7/8 parshendi are active and like 3/15 alethi...well I hope you guys are sincere about wanting to work together against secret factions
cloudjumper he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Drake(1): Sart Yitzi(6): Drake, El, Cloud, Roadwalker, Straw, Mint El(2):Yitzi, Aster
asterion137 he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 @OrlokTsubodai @BrightnessRadiant @A Joe in the Bush @Crimsn-Wolf @Sami @Megasif @Elbereth anyone planning on voting? Our advantage as Alethi is supposed to be our numbers with which we can control the lynch. Lynch a suspected SoH if you want, but giving the lynch to parshendi entirely is a good way to concede the game.
Orlok Tsubodai Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I'm well aware, Asterion. I've been busy with Elbereth today, but am definitely following the game. Drake. I think Sart's plan is very sensible. If we don't use the lynch as Alethi, we lose. We're significantly disadvantaged by the ease of communication available to the Parshendi, and the double lives balance our numbers. I am surprised that the Parshendi wish to turn down such a method of cooperation, though.
xxGaea They/Them, Fae/Faer Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 hopping on really quick to let everyone know that I have been busy the last couple days, but I will get on and read everything tomorrow and make a post.
Megasif he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, asterion137 said: @OrlokTsubodai @BrightnessRadiant @A Joe in the Bush @Crimsn-Wolf @Sami @Megasif @Elbereth anyone planning on voting? Our advantage as Alethi is supposed to be our numbers with which we can control the lynch. Lynch a suspected SoH if you want, but giving the lynch to parshendi entirely is a good way to concede the game. My initial thoughts were to aim for the eliminate-all-secret-factions victory. I still stand by that. However, some of the comments make sense about allying with SoH. The parshendi, on the other hand, make a case about helping us eliminate the voidbringers. They want us to help lynch a SoH first by the looks of it. I am leaning towards that right now, however: A few doubts: As it is right now, I want to go ahead against the 'apparent' SoH but can't help thinking that we might be playing into the voidbringers' hands. The parshendi seem quite united in their opinion at the moment.There have been a few mentions of the numbers advantage but if we help lynch a supposed alethi and then the parshendi refuse to move against the voidbringers, that puts us in a crap position. But if we alienate the parshendi completely, what's the chance of us completely wiping them out with SoH's help. I'll hold for now. Edited July 13, 2017 by Megasif
Jondesu he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 7 hours ago, cloudjumper said: Drake(1): Sart Yitzi(6): Drake, El, Cloud, Roadwalker, Straw, Mint El(2):Yitzi, Aster You missed my vote on Sart.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, cloudjumper said: Drake(1): Sart Yitzi(6): Drake, El, Cloud, Roadwalker, Straw, Mint El(2):Yitzi, Aster Now its Drake(2): Sart, Orlok. Sart(1): Jon This leaves me conflicted. Drake has already claimed that he is switching to Scholarform, skipping the need to force him into via the lynch. However, trust levels are wobbly, and he might not be doing as he says, so we need a Parshendi or a PM confidant to back up his claim and hold him to it. Yitzi, as Alethi, just based on race, is someone I'd like to keep alive, but the general consensus believes he is a SoH. That does not hurt me at all, but I'm sure it makes several Parshendi nervous. I would prefer that Alethi not die, as a general rule, but there is quite a bandwagon already. So let's compromise: Parshendi want Yitzi dead for fear of him being a SoH, which is their enemy. If Yitzi IS SoH, then the SoH are down one person and the Alethi are down one person, and the Ghostbloods/Voidbringers benefit because people are dying. If Yitzi IS NOT SoH, then the SoH are unaffected, the Alethi are down one person, the Parshendi don't trust themselves much anymore because of their poor judgement, and the Ghostbloods/Voidbringers benefit. I would prefer the Voidbringers die first, seeing as there are more Alethi than Parshendi, meaning either less Voidbringers to kill or a greater chance of hitting a Voidbringer. If there is cooperation from both the Alethi and the Parshendi, a purge of Voidbringers from the ranks would be quite easy. Edited July 13, 2017 by Hemalurgic_Headshot
Stick. she/her Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Okay so I think we should focus on finding and eliminating the Ghostbloods first, since their win con is basically to kill the rest of us. As an Alethi I don't really hold anything against the Sons, so...not voting Yitzi. Sart's plan makes sense, so Drake. Vote tally: Drake(3): Sart, Orlok, Stick Yitzi(6): Drake, Len, Cloud, Roadwalker, Straw, Mint Len(2):Yitzi, Aster [we should probably try not to use El as a short form for Elenion since it'd get confusing because Elbereth is playing] Sart(1): Jon @Straw what's the reason behind your vote on yitzi? I kinda get the others 'cause theyre all Parshendi but what's your reasoning? 1 hour ago, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: I would prefer the Voidbringers die first, seeing as there are more Alethi than Parshendi, meaning either less Voidbringers to kill or a greater chance of hitting a Voidbringer. If there is cooperation from both the Alethi and the Parshendi, a purge of Voidbringers from the ranks would be quite easy Makes sense, coming from an Alethi 1
Yitzi2 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) @Sart @OrlokTsubodai @_Stick_ if Drake is actually switching to Scholarform, I don't really see much benefit for the vanilla Alethi in hitting him, and if he isn't, he's probably got a Warform protecting him anyway, so it won't give much information, and Elenion is a far bigger Voidbringer candidate. Nevertheless, he's a better target than any Alethi, so if he's the leading Parshendi target as the cycle gets close to its end, I'll switch to him, and would ask that @asterion137 do so as well. Edited July 13, 2017 by Yitzi2
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 After reviewing the accused's posts, I will consider options Yitzi: Active in the thread, reviewing victory conditions and Alethi possibilities, charged with the possibility of SoH. Drake: Also active in the thread, equally analyzing victory conditions, first targeted to provide a sure Scholarform, but then was bandwagoned because he was Parshendi, and thus possibly a Voidbringer. Len: Much less active in the thread, in which he protests that Alethi have full control over the lynch (numbers+votemanip), and is accused of being a Voidbringer for his anti-Alethi posts. Sart: Proposed the Drake lynch under good reason to ensure a publicly known Scholarform, was accused for using that plot to weaken the Parshendi and thus possibly is SoH/Ghostblood. Yitzi and Sart are Alethi, Drake and Len are Parshendi. My Alethi bias comes into play here to protect Yitzi and Sart, thus crossing them from my list. Of Drake and Len, I'm leaning towards Len for two reasons. One, Drake is okay right now. If he follows through and goes Scholar for us, it's all good. The information from that ability must be made known in one way or another, though. Two, Len has been eerily quiet, despite the claims against him. This is a little concerning to me, and that is what is tipping Len towards the bad zone right now. Since every vote is quite important right now, I'll cast mine on Elenion.
Stick. she/her Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Hm. Why are people voting on Len again? Because of the Alethi outnumbering the parshendi and controlling the lynch comment? Because he's quiet?
Yitzi2 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Hm. Why are people voting on Len again? Because of the Alethi outnumbering the parshendi and controlling the lynch comment? Because he's quiet? A couple of reasons have been given for him to be our best Voidbringer candidate. As for why we're trying to lynch Voidbringers in particular: That's because the Alethi outnumber the Parshendi and therefore control the lynch.
Orlok Tsubodai Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Yitzi2 said: @Sart @OrlokTsubodai @_Stick_ if Drake is actually switching to Scholarform, I don't really see much benefit for the vanilla Alethi in hitting him, and if he isn't, he's probably got a Warform protecting him anyway, so it won't give much information, and Elenion is a far bigger Voidbringer candidate. Nevertheless, he's a better target than any Alethi, so if he's the leading Parshendi target as the cycle gets close to its end, I'll switch to him, and would ask that @asterion137 do so as well. Yitzi, my understanding is that we hit Drake to guarantee he goes into Scholarform - the certainty of correct information from the collaboration is the important part, in my mind.
Yitzi2 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, OrlokTsubodai said: Yitzi, my understanding is that we hit Drake to guarantee he goes into Scholarform - the certainty of correct information from the collaboration is the important part, in my mind. But if he's getting protection (as he says he is), there's no real way that hitting him guarantees that he goes into Scholarform.
Orlok Tsubodai Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Yitzi2 said: But if he's getting protection (as he says he is), there's no real way that hitting him guarantees that he goes into Scholarform. My apologies - I seem to have missed that. I'll reevaluate, and get back to you.
Yitzi2 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Another point: When posting vote counts, you might want to list a (P) or (A) after each name, just so that we can have a better understanding of what's going on; while it is unlikely to help us find Voidbringers or Sons of Honor, it may help find Ghostbloods.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, OrlokTsubodai said: Yitzi, my understanding is that we hit Drake to guarantee he goes into Scholarform - the certainty of correct information from the collaboration is the important part, in my mind. You'll know when I go into scholarform because I'll be revealing my search results to everyone, and if I ever lie about something you can and probably should kill me. I am serious about an unaligned Alethi-Parshendi win together. I think a secret faction victory sounds kind of lame, especially now that I know I can't win alongside the Ghostbloods Why, you ask, am I voting for an Alethi if I really just want to kill off all the secret factions? Well, frankly, I think the Sons of Honor feel a lot safer than the Voidbringers, and so it's a lot easier to spot them (if I'm wrong about Yitzi I'll have cause to reconsider that statement). I don't have any good guesses for who a Voidbringer is yet. But that will change. I think I'll scan a Parshendi next cycle. The general consensus seems to be that Elenion is the most likely to be a Voidbringer, right? Worst case scenario, it'll clear him, and that still shrinks the pool of possible suspects. Best case scenario, we catch a Voidbringer (or maybe even a Ghostblood) and down another secret faction. If I catch a Voidbringer for you, I hope that would improve Parshendi-Alethi relations. Edited July 13, 2017 by Drake Marshall fixed typo 1
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said: You'll know when I go into scholarform because I'll be revealing my search results to everyone, and if I ever lie about something you can and probably should kill me. I am serious about an unaligned Alethi-Parshendi win together. I think a secret faction victory sounds kind of lame, especially now that I know I can't win alongside the Ghostbloods Why, you ask, am I voting for an Alethi if I really just want to kill off all the secret factions? Well, frankly, I think the Sons of Honor feel a lot safer than the Voidbringers, and so it's a lot easier to spot them (if I'm wrong about Yitzi I'll have cause to reconsider that statement). I don't have any good guesses for who a Voidbringer is yet. But that will change. I think I'll scan a Parshendi next cycle. The general consensus seems to be that Elenion is the most likely to be a Voidbringer, right? Worst case scenario, it'll clear him, and that still shrinks the pool of possible suspects. Best case scenario, we catch a Voidbringer (or maybe even a Ghostblood) and down another secret faction. If I catch a Voidbringer for you, I hope that would improve Parshendi-Alethi relations. Thank you, Drake. *thumbs-up*
Megasif he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) So the parshendi seem as though they want to follow through on the peace alliance but are unwilling to vote one of the voidbringer suspects yet. As they should be, I guess. We are doing the same with a SoH suspect. If Drake follows through on the change of form and finds info, we can move towards eliminating the secret factions. I'm not against knocking out a SoH but between a SoH and voidbringer, I'd go for the voidbringer. If there's a chance we could get one, then my vote is on Elenion for now. I won't be on for the end of cycle so this vote will most likely not change in the light of new info. Zephyras Edit: Do we only change the font colour for the vote? Edited July 13, 2017 by Megasif
Jondesu he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Megasif said: Zephyras Edit: Do we only change the font colour for the vote? Yes. I find I like the color better if I type [ color=red] [ /color] (just remove those extra spaces) around the word, instead of using the color picker.
Megasif he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) I'm on phone so I can't even see the colour option. Oh well. Thank you for that. Edited July 13, 2017 by Megasif
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Only way I've ever figured out to get red text on my phone is copy+past someone else's vote, then change the name if that is necessary.
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