LG110, Day 1-D: The Final Day (Inverted)

[Myst He/Him]

7 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I'll note that the Day 3C vote wasn't close. It spent most of the day not being close, either one way or the other.

That means the Keaton mask probably wasn't ever going to sway the outcome.

I tend to think it probably wasn't intended to, in that case.

If we feel the manipulation came from an elim, it's honestly anyone's guess what mindgame they were going for.

If it came from a villager, then they probably just used it for the sake of using it, or maybe to defend against hammers or other last minute changes. It's strange they haven't spoken up, but I think that's still plausible right now.

 

The whereabouts of the Keaton Mask is an interesting question but I'm not sure it changes my suspicions.

If the evils have it, is there any reason it couldn't just be Stick?

For the above reason, I don't think it's actually too crazy that E!Stick might move a vote onto E!Stick.

 

Anyways I'll be back in a little while. I think I've mostly said my piece so maybe I'll catch up on the RP scene. I can aspire at least.

Yeah. As Coco said, Stick couldn’t have had it. Plus no village is claiming Keaton, meaning an Elim must have it

I don’t think the reasons for why Doc would have scents are convincing, so I think Hael had to have had it(assuming you V!read me)

Edited March 18 by Mistfallen Soldier

[Haelbarde he/him]

26 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Yeah. As Coco said, Stick couldn’t have had it. Plus no village is claiming Keaton, meaning an Elim must have it

I don’t think the reasons for why Doc would have scents are convincing, so I think Hael had to have had it(assuming you V!read me)

This was my rupee counts: 

While I had 30 rupees going into Loop 2, I purchased the Don Gero mask D1. The Mask of Scents was also purchased D1 that loop.

I suppose I could be lying about having Don Gero loop 2, but if I had purchased Mask of Scents L2D1 instead, I'd have had 10 rupees left and only earned 9 rupees that loop, so could not have purchased the Captain's Mask L3D1.

Edit:

Doc is certainly my preferred next vote, but I'm happy to shift to Stick first if necessary. 

Edited March 18 by Haelbarde

[Myst He/Him]

17 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

This was my rupee counts: 

While I had 30 rupees going into Loop 2, I purchased the Don Gero mask D1. The Mask of Scents was also purchased D1 that loop.

I suppose I could be lying about having Don Gero loop 2, but if I had purchased Mask of Scents L2D1 instead, I'd have had 10 rupees left and only earned 9 rupees that loop, so could not have purchased the Captain's Mask L3D1.

Edit:

Doc is certainly my preferred next vote, but I'm happy to shift to Stick first if necessary. 

I think you misunderstand what I’m saying, I don’t think you got scents loop 2, I think Stick did, and I think you got Keaton loop 3. You would’ve had the rupees by N1C. 
Edit: you said you wouldn’t have, but you also said you had posts that Aman didn’t count. Which I have no way of verifying. Going just by posts, you’d be able to

Edited March 18 by Mistfallen Soldier

[Ashbringer he/him]

(Are the Wayward actually killing the people we’re exeing here? Or just menacing them into not releasing Majora? Rashe isn’t above just cutting someone down, but also he’s not going to just do that if that’s not the consensus)

[Amanuensis he/him]

They don't necessarily have to be killed, no. I imagine most people would interrogate them for an understanding of why they are helping Majora destroy the world, and for information that could help defeat him once and for all.

Edited March 18 by Amanuensis

[Haelbarde he/him]

2 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

I think you misunderstand what I’m saying, I don’t think you got scents loop 2, I think Stick did, and I think you got Keaton loop 3. You would’ve had the rupees by N1C. 

Right, I wasn't clear if you were saying I could have gotten Keaton or if I had gotten Scents earlier.

Again, per those rupee counts, I had at most 45 rupees at the start of L3N1, so not enough for Keaton even if someone else had purchased Don Gero loop 2 and Captain's Hat L3D1. So you're going to have to be real specific about which turns I should have earned more rupees to be able to justify where the 5 additional rupees came from.

And feel free to check with the dead but I was pretty sure there were some quick turnarounds from thread asking a question, the dead commenting on it, and then me posting their comments.

Trying to co-ordinate a different Elim pretending to be me in the dead doc and then giving me prewritten posts to copy and paste into thread within a matter of minutes seems quite a logistical challenge. I suppose it's not impossible, but it does also strain the limits of what is appropriate in terms of copying info from docs. 

[Stick. she/her]

so basically it’s got to be Hael along with Drake for the vote manip to make sense- they would’ve won L4 easily but doc’s alignment scan threw a wrench into their plans hence the concession 

 

I’m still working on that big post that explains the numbers and mech here in depth, need some more time tho 

[Myst He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

Right, I wasn't clear if you were saying I could have gotten Keaton or if I had gotten Scents earlier.

Again, per those rupee counts, I had at most 45 rupees at the start of L3N1, so not enough for Keaton even if someone else had purchased Don Gero loop 2 and Captain's Hat L3D1. So you're going to have to be real specific about which turns I should have earned more rupees to be able to justify where the 5 additional rupees came from.

And feel free to check with the dead but I was pretty sure there were some quick turnarounds from thread asking a question, the dead commenting on it, and then me posting their comments.

Trying to co-ordinate a different Elim pretending to be me in the dead doc and then giving me prewritten posts to copy and paste into thread within a matter of minutes seems quite a logistical challenge. I suppose it's not impossible, but it does also strain the limits of what is appropriate in terms of copying info from docs. 

The problem I see is that otherwise Doc has to have it, meaning he threw away a silver mask for scents. And the entire thing is weird. Currently my opinion is going for Twin for the final exe and avoiding the Hael/Doc thing

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 minute ago, Haelbarde said:

Right, I wasn't clear if you were saying I could have gotten Keaton or if I had gotten Scents earlier.

Again, per those rupee counts, I had at most 45 rupees at the start of L3N1, so not enough for Keaton even if someone else had purchased Don Gero loop 2 and Captain's Hat L3D1. So you're going to have to be real specific about which turns I should have earned more rupees to be able to justify where the 5 additional rupees came from.

And feel free to check with the dead but I was pretty sure there were some quick turnarounds from thread asking a question, the dead commenting on it, and then me posting their comments.

Trying to co-ordinate a different Elim pretending to be me in the dead doc and then giving me prewritten posts to copy and paste into thread within a matter of minutes seems quite a logistical challenge. I suppose it's not impossible, but it does also strain the limits of what is appropriate in terms of copying info from docs. 

I can confirm this is true (the dead doc stuff). I guess someone else pretending to be him is possible, just doesn’t seem probable. I do think Hael had the Captain’s Hat, the alternative seems incredibly convoluted.

[Haelbarde he/him]

3 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

The problem I see is that otherwise Doc has to have it, meaning he threw away a silver mask for scents. And the entire thing is weird. Currently my opinion is going for Twin for the final exe and avoiding the Hael/Doc thing

I thought you said numbers don't lie

[Divergent He/Him]

Stick

[Amanuensis he/him]

Players will be executed and flipped upon reaching 10 votes.

• (4/10) Stick: Mistfallen, coco, Drake, Divergent, 
• (3/10) Doc: Wahrheit, TJ, Hael, 
• (2/10) Hael: Doc, Stick, 
• (1/10) Mistfallen: Archer,

Edited March 18 by Amanuensis

[Divergent He/Him]

Is it not possible the elim Keaton user just did it to confuse people, since Archer voting Stick made it impossible for Keaton to change the outcome of the vote

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I'm in the Burnt/Stick/Doc/Twinstorm camp for the elims, and think Doc and Stick are our best options for the remaining two exes.

[Stick. she/her]

ong none of u are thinking about this mathematically - neither doc nor I could’ve afforded Keaton so these teams make no sense 

burnt could not have acted under the stone mask 

 

sooooo ya. I’m not too bothered cuz we win this either way but face the math pls and ty 

[Divergent He/Him]

1 minute ago, Stick. said:

ong none of u are thinking about this mathematically - neither doc nor I could’ve afforded Keaton so these teams make no sense 

burnt could not have acted under the stone mask 

 

sooooo ya. I’m not too bothered cuz we win this either way but face the math pls and ty 

Doc could have bought it though. He didn't really need to have Mask of Truths to fake a scan if he's elim

[Stick. she/her]

Right and why does he go for that over that resurrection one when we know he had the money 

[Haelbarde he/him]

4 minutes ago, Stick. said:

neither doc nor I could’ve afforded Keaton so these teams make no sense 

There was never much doubt over Doc's ability to buy purple masks, only whether he could actually have afforded a silver mask which while I didn't really follow the conversation on I didn't think was conclusive, being based somewhat on PMs that may or may not have been sent. While I think an elim with 100 rupees tries to get the GF mask, an elim with 98 bids on the multiple cheaper masks to fight for the more achievable ones and then buys a 50 rupee mask N1.

[Stick. she/her]

gimme a min I’m working on laying out the rupee logic 

[Myst He/Him]

45 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

I thought you said numbers don't lie

They don’t when I can’t verify. I have no way of knowing whether some of your posts were or were not counted for rupees. Those posts change the mumbers.

 

Edited March 18 by Mistfallen Soldier

[Haelbarde he/him]

I went back and checked and it does seem it was reasonable for Doc to have earned sufficient rupees.

The problem is someone bought it, it wasn't Burnt. So who had the funds and was alive L3D3? 

If there aren't any other candidates, it kinda has to be Doc, and the reason for no GF mask was he had purchased something bigger in a previous loop.

[|TJ| he/him]

Keaton is not important at all lmao. It's just a fun little side-quest to figure out who had it :P. 

Ed1t: VC was 7-4 before any vote manip. Even if the vote shift was the other way around it would been 6-5 and Stick would have still died. There's nothing important here. 

[Divergent He/Him]

5 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Keaton is not important at all lmao. It's just a fun little side-quest to figure out who had it :P. 

Ed1t: VC was 7-4 before any vote manip. Even if the vote shift was the other way around it would been 6-5 and Stick would have still died. There's nothing important here. 

Pretty sure Aman earned enough rupees to buy Keaton 

[Archer he/him]

35 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Pretty sure Aman earned enough rupees to buy Keaton 

Yeah he's been splitting up his RP posts to bilk more each round 

Stick

[|TJ| he/him]

Stick Doc