LG110, Day 1-D: The Final Day (Inverted)

[Ashbringer he/him]

53 minutes ago, Burnt Spaghetti said:

In the Happy Masks Salesman's shop she stood quietly. After his declaration she was not surprised to see everyone's eyes turn to her. At least they can see me now. She thought with mild amusement.

There was one set of eyes not on her. Thistle.... Her heart ached with a pang of regret as her gaze lingered on her friend. Those flower crowns were never going to happen. This thought hit Cindra with such a strong feeling of grief. The thought held such finality. There had been so many extra chances they'd all recieved over these days.

She took out her flute and gently placed it down on the counter.

Cindra would have no more chances.

Rashe’s fingers rested lightly on the counter, then crawled over the flute, rolling and weighing the instrument with some care.

”I’ve read stories of the types of civilizations that use blowdarts. Effective if you can’t be seen, enough to get close. I’ve even heard of some who use simple winds to hold and shoot darts, then carry on their tune.”

Rashe didn’t look at Cindra. He didn’t need to, not even for appearances. Even if part of him was stretching the depths of his memory, mimicking some long-lost conversation. Was the heft right? It was a true flute, which would make a difficult dartgun… but with a thin enough bolt, it was possible…

But that wasn’t really what mattered, was it?

Rashe turned to Cindra. Flute in one hand, sword in the other.

Technically, he didn’t know what the Happy Mask Salesman intended with his former compatriots. But they’d tried to kill his daughter, and they’d succeeding in killing Rashe. Several times. People earned worse fates for better. And the old part of him, the part that was AraRaash at his beginning, was eager to deal out fate.

But that wasn’t really what mattered, was it?

”I cannot fault trying to wake from a nightmare, but every choice you make can cause… damage. What choice were you making that night? Was that dart meant for Ap? For me? For someone else?” 

Rashe’s eyes flickered. Coliver hadn’t reacted to it. He wondered how much she knew. What he’d done, and why. And what he may still do. Too much. She knew, and it was too much. Hopefully she would handle what more she had to say.

His eyes finally met Cindra’s, weighing the objects and their meanings.

”And what choice do you make now?”

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Elims benefit from the village lacking information 

1. he couldn’t have messed with them too much. If he messed with any PM involving a villager, that villager could just call him out on it. That best he could do is make Burnt seem like she PMed Stick instead of another Elim, which doesn’t seem like something to be worried about

Okay but the point of the information, the reason why Wonko was interested in it in the first place, was because players that PMed each other weren't as likely to be elim teammates.

If Doc can fake the existence of PMs between elim teammates, even if he can't fake any other kind of PM, that still completely invalidates the thing that made the data useful.

The elims benefit from the village lacking information, but they benefit even more from the village having incorrect information.

I'll also note that my analysis of Doc's info suggested that Burnt was village. She was not. This isn't hard proof he fudged the data, but it doesn't inspire confidence either. (Edit: also, if y'all were working from incorrect info about how many PMs Burnt had, that is one plausible explanation for why y'all predicted Burnt couldn't afford the Stone Mask when in reality she could. She was supposedly only a few rupees short, so if she paid slightly less for PMs than Doc reported, that explains it. I tend to think "a teammate bought the Mask of Scents" is also a very plausible explanation, but if you're in the camp that Burnt didn't lie about being the one to buy the Mask of Scents, then Doc committing fraud on her behalf is probably the next best explanation for what was going on there.)

And never sharing any information has risks of its own for an elim.

1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

2. Yeah, but so does sharing that he had the postman’s hat, I don’t think that this is anything extra

well, if it's not anything extra, then Doc doesn't deserve any extra village cred for it! 

1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

3. he didn’t have to say he had the information, he did that himself, so it wouldn’t have been weird because he would’ve never brought it up.

And if he never revealed the postmaster had the capability, if a villager ever got their hands on that 5 rupee mask, they'd wonder why not. He still didn't volunteer the maybe actually useful part on his own, though.

Anyways, it's like the averages thing I was saying before. I do think villagers are more likely to share more useful bits of true information more often than elims, on average. If Doc had shared more information, and if we could verify that more of it was true, then maybe I'd agree with you that he deserves real village cred for it. But sharing a single piece of info and one that I don't even particularly believe is true doesn't rly earn any brownie points from me.

edit2: to sharpen the point a little, did any of Doc's info help us execute an elim?

because Hael's info resulted in executing an elim. And considering how hard it was to get Stick voted out I don't rly think the elims wanted it to happen. That's what we're comparing against.

if Doc should be read as village for sharing some info that didn't really go anywhere to the best of my knowledge, then Hael should be village read even more strongly

and if the information Hael provided yesterday isn't worth trusting him about, then Doc sharing the PM info probably isn't worth talking about

unless there's something more that differentiates the two cases, as far as "sharing useful info with the village" goes, Hael's got Doc beat. That's my two cents anyhow.

1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

What he did leans village to me, but I would still say it’s not enough by itself to base anything on, so both, if that makes sense

Your right, the village doesn’t have talk at monopoly, but everything I’ve seen seems to suggest that a Elim Doc would’ve had to guess Hael was going to be a problem D3C, and that he’d have to protect Stick, which we both agree isn’t what’s happening

(I’ll reply to the rest later but my downtime is about to turn on)

Perhaps you feel everything you've seen points to that, but we have a problem, because I don't feel that way at all about anything I've seen. If you want this line of thought to be transmissible to me, you're going to have to be more specific.

If I'm being more forceful than I usually would be, I'm sorry. Probably a side-effect of being sidelined in the dead doc yesterday, and wanting so badly to be able to intervene at certain points in time  I'm not sure we'll converge on believing the same (hopefully correct) things about who the elims are but we can both try at least

Edited March 18 by DrakeMarshall

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

Spoiler

^My life this game lol

Also i had forgotten that there was an actual owl in the games. 

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

Wahi sat in the Shop of the Mask Salesman, together with the others, he had seen most of them around during the previous 3 loops. The Mask Salesman was a Member of the Dreamers or a former Member? There People amongst them that had Sabotaged them worked with the Demon Majora, ans now they were going to find them before they could sabotage their attempt at the last Mask. Wahi hoped that none of the People that he had gotten close to were traitors. 

[|TJ| he/him]

Agree with everything @DrakeMarshall is saying. I just don't have the energy to convince someone else xD 

Drake is fresh off a break and eager to go, I just have this one thing to add on - 

On 3/15/2026 at 2:34 PM, |TJ| said:

Hmmm, I'm pretty set on e!Coco, but let's consider a world of v!Coco and e!Stick. 

So it's... Burnt/Stick/TwinStorm/+1 and the +1 HAS to be among in living players at the beginning of Loop 3 -> 

[Coco, Doc, Hael, Mistfallen]

Strikethroughs -> We are considering a v!Coco world. Mistfallen is village from Burnt's fake claim. Hael is village in this world, accurately relaying information about e!Stick, which means Doc HAS to be the 4th elim in this case. 

e!Stick implies e!Doc -> 

Stick and Coco are not e/e, which means we won the last Loop by exe-ing e!Twinstorm. e!TwinStorm implies v!Hael because exactly 1 of Hael/TwinStorm is evil. Doc is the only possible 4th teammate.

[Haelbarde he/him]

1 hour ago, Burnt Spaghetti said:

Also i had forgotten that there was an actual owl in the games. 

I'm trying to remember if one of the songs you used to play was Kaepora Gaebora, because that was the name of the owl.

[Archer he/him]

5 hours ago, Wonko the Sane said:

Really? Why? In your opinion, why did a Burnt/Hael/Drake/<Coco|Twin|Mist> team surrender the game?

Due to a combination of factors, I reckon 

This game gets rough for the elims once high level masks come into play; in retrospect, gunning for the fastest possible win was the right choice. My thinking was that we'd scanned the second elim (Hael), and were probably going to hit Coco and TS as the other exes. It works the other way if you say we've scanned Stick and were probably going to hit Doc next as their sense of concern. It's just scary how close we came to losing the loop yesterday then. 

Doc giving the conf vils control over who they scan is an evil move. As is their not dying. We'd have ultimately had an elim team with three members who aggressively accrued rupees, which matches the above average activity I theorized they'd have. 

It's just them bussing Burnt that is bugging me. I need to figure out what happened that Day, maybe it was accidental. 

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

18 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

I'm trying to remember if one of the songs you used to play was Kaepora Gaebora, because that was the name of the owl.

Oh absolutely. He has a great theme. His song was in the ocarina of time section though. Majoras had a lot of cross over of themes so i focused on Ocarina

[Stick. she/her]

Cool

Burnt 

btw I had no masks last loop (or any other loop…sad) if it matters 

[|TJ| he/him]

27 minutes ago, Stick. said:

btw I had no masks last loop (or any other loop…sad) if it matters 

Hi, fellow vanilla :P. 

[Stick. she/her]

Literally only ever tried for those blue ones cuz I thought everyone else would go for the expensive ones 

 

greed wins,,, messed up…. 

[Amanuensis he/him]

 

• (10/10) Burnt: Mistfallen, Archer, Hael, Divergent, TUM, Drake, Wonko, TJ, Wahrheit, Stick
• (1/10) Mistfallen: Burnt,

Statements not written in white text are a lie
Burnt was executed. They were a Link’s Zealot!
Burnt was executed. They were a Minion of Mischief.

8 hours ago, |TJ| said:

HUH. The VC seems to be the result of a Keaton Mask. 

Aman, confirmation that this VC is correct, please? 

Because if you go back and check, Stick never votes on herself. 

That VC is accurate this bit is true

2 Executions Remain
Second exe will be forced on
Thursday, March 19th @ 10PM EST

Edited March 18 by Amanuensis

[Divergent He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

 

• (10/10) Burnt: Mistfallen, Archer, Hael, Divergent, TUM, Drake, Wonko, TJ, Wahrheit, Stick
• (1/10) Mistfallen: Burnt,

Statements not written in white text are a lie
Burnt was executed. They were a Link’s Zealot!
Burnt was executed. They were a Minion of Mischief.

That VC is accurate

2 Executions Remain
Second exe will be forced on
Thursday, March 19th @ 10PM EST

? 
Link's Zealot?

[Amanuensis he/him]

5 minutes ago, Divergent said:

? 
Link's Zealot?

Huh. Weird. It seems the Stone Mask had an effect on my post too  some kind of lingering magic ig

Edited March 18 by Amanuensis

[Divergent He/Him]

2 hours ago, Stick. said:

Cool

Burnt 

btw I had no masks last loop (or any other loop…sad) if it matters 

I didn't get any last loop because I forgot to submit a bid and only remembered near the end of the day. And that day happened to be when Daylight Savings this year started 

[Stick. she/her]

13 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

 

• (10/10) Burnt: Mistfallen, Archer, Hael, Divergent, TUM, Drake, Wonko, TJ, Wahrheit, Stick
• (1/10) Mistfallen: Burnt,

Statements not written in white text are a lie
Burnt was executed. They were a Link’s Zealot!
Burnt was executed. They were a Minion of Mischief.

That VC is accurate

2 Executions Remain
Second exe will be forced on
Thursday, March 19th @ 10PM EST

Cool white text 

[Divergent He/Him]

16 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

 

• (10/10) Burnt: Mistfallen, Archer, Hael, Divergent, TUM, Drake, Wonko, TJ, Wahrheit, Stick
• (1/10) Mistfallen: Burnt,

Statements not written in white text are a lie
Burnt was executed. They were a Link’s Zealot!
Burnt was executed. They were a Minion of Mischief.

That VC is accurate

2 Executions Remain
Second exe will be forced on
Thursday, March 19th @ 10PM EST

Omg this white text is giving me flashbacks to QF77 where I outed myself as elim because Fura put a trap in his reads list by writing a statement in white text that implied he was elim too (it was a lost wolf game) 

8 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Alright, my post counts each day, with Rankings. I got max rupees each loop though. Cause I want to know how much I’ve continued here

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D1A Second with 14, Aman beat me by 6

N1A Second with 11, Aman beat me by 2

D2A First with 24

N2A Tied with Wonko for second. 7 Posts, Dive beat me by 1

D3A First with 15

N3A Second with 10, Aman beat me by 3

D1B First with 36

N1B First with 13

D2B First with 15

N2B Second with 6. Ash and Coco tied with 7

D3B First with 16

N3B 10 posts (There wasn’t a summary so idk if I got first or not)

D1C First with 40

N1C First with 37

D2C First with 26

N2C Second with 13, Aman beat me by 3

D3C First with 42

N3C 9 posts, once again no summary

Well… that’s a lot. I’ve posted a total of 344 time for this game(not including this thread) I think it’s safe to say I’m winning 

For more data that doesn’t help us but I find interesting. There’s been a total of 1,851 posts in total(including Aman)(but not counting this thread) which means I’ve posted about 18.5% of all posts in this game

I'm happy to have won one of those phases lol 

Goated post count tbh

[|TJ| he/him]

I am convinced. This is Aman's revenge game against me for MR56 >>

I was a fool for signing up, a fool I say! 

(jk it's been so much fun :P)

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

I am convinced. This is Aman's revenge game against me for MR56 >>

I was a fool for signing up, a fool I say! 

(jk it's been so much fun :P)

I have indeed been exacting my revenge, several years long overdue >:) bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[Divergent He/Him]

6 hours ago, Burnt Spaghetti said:

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^My life this game lol

Also i had forgotten that there was an actual owl in the games. 

Y'know I ended up being grateful to get executed over you L2 lol cus it took the pressure off to be trying to reach the rupee requirement every phase haha and I got to chill for like a week in the dead doc too

4 hours ago, Archer said:

It's just them bussing Burnt that is bugging me. I need to figure out what happened that Day, maybe it was accidental. 

Maybe they were trying to lose the loop, but we were just such a mess that they couldn't help but try to win 

[Stick. she/her]

What happened in mr56 again 

[|TJ| he/him]

6 minutes ago, Stick. said:

What happened in mr56 again 

It was a blackout which accidentally ended up as flipless arson lmaoooo xD 

Hey, you were evil in that game too, Miss Annihilation

[Amanuensis he/him]

6 minutes ago, Stick. said:

What happened in mr56 again 

Archer was a polar bear that liked to fish for puns or something

Just now, |TJ| said:

It was a blackout which accidentally ended up as flipless arson lmaoooo xD 

Accidentally doing A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of work here

[Stick. she/her]

oh right this came up somewhere in a recent game when discussing SKs, I was e with archer fake claiming medium on D1 

 

3 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Hey, you were evil in that game, Miss Annihilation

and outed at rand by the omniscient Devo

[Amanuensis he/him]

Blackouts are fun, we should have another soon and I might play. Nothing quite like having zero clue about the mechanics

Edited March 18 by Amanuensis