Amanuensis Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, The Bookwyrm said: Yep. Unfortunately. I'm just going to keep my Kas vote because I want to vote for someone, but I am having trouble reading people, as I always do D1. My v!TKN read is slipping down to neutral, as I'm realizing it's possible an elim would make the same play. And otherwise no one is standing out as overtly elim or village. Because it's D1. I don't know how to make reads D1. Could join me on Fadran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, The Bookwyrm said: Yep. Unfortunately. I'm just going to keep my Kas vote because I want to vote for someone, but I am having trouble reading people, as I always do D1. My v!TKN read is slipping down to neutral, as I'm realizing it's possible an elim would make the same play. And otherwise no one is standing out as overtly elim or village. Because it's D1. I don't know how to make reads D1. Bookwyrm. I was wondering if I would see this. 7 hours ago, The Bookwyrm said: His actions just seem authentic, and I don't think an elim would draw so much attention to themselves. Also partially a gut read. I was interested in Bookwyrm having a stable Village read D1. The thing with E!Bookwyrm that stuck out to me from QF64 and it's something I return to is that E!Bookwyrm has difficulty forming suspicions. I think for that reason, he tends to have TMI contaminate his Village reads and is over-stubborn about defending them. I wanted to see if Bookwyrm could be forced to recant under pressure, which would in my view be more indicative of V!Bookwyrm. Quote I still don't understand why you're gunning for Xino so hard. Yes, he may be somewhat suspicious, but he isn't the best option solely for the fact that he's posted twice this entire game. That's mildly suspicious, but there are other people that are a lot more suspicious. Xino hasn't said/done anything incriminating. Now I just need to figure out who of those more suspicious people are the most suspicious. Notice this is very definitive language. He is pushing back against Xino while Xino was I think the CW that cycle. At some points we clashed about Xino but Bookwyrm dug his heels in insisting on V!Xino. IMO V!him is less likely to do that. This is his response to my pressuring him on his positive Xino read: Quote Most of my analyses in SE so far are based on actions in the same game, rather than on actions in past games. If Xino's behavior this game really is corresponding closely to his actions in past games where he was Elim, than I would consider voting him. But I'd rather have a little more incriminating evidence in this game alone before I vote for him. Again, compare to: 2 hours ago, The Bookwyrm said: Yep. Unfortunately. I'm just going to keep my Kas vote because I want to vote for someone, but I am having trouble reading people, as I always do D1. My v!TKN read is slipping down to neutral, as I'm realizing it's possible an elim would make the same play. And otherwise no one is standing out as overtly elim or village. Because it's D1. I don't know how to make reads D1. He takes it back under pressure. I wouldn't say ride or die, but I'm currently V-leaning Bookwyrm, actually. Fadran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Here is the current VC. As a reminder, there are about 3.5 hours left until rollover! Fifth Scholar (2): xinoehp512, Matrim's Dice Channelknight Fadran (2): Kasimir, Amanuensis Kasimir (2): The Known Novel, The Bookwyrm JNV (1): _Stick_ Araris Valerian (1): Fifth Scholar The Known Novel (1): Araris Valerian The Bookwyrm (1): |TJ| Matrim's Dice (1): Channelknight Fadran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Oh boy a 2-vote tie leading in a Tyrian game And I have the chance to break it That went so well last time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Ashbringer said: Oh boy a 2-vote tie leading in a Tyrian game And I have the chance to break it That went so well last time though LG90 flashbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 ... fine I'll do it myself Fadran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: ... fine I'll do it myself Fadran Spoiler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: ... fine I'll do it myself Fadran He didn’t c/p in the meme; obviously is e!indicative. …Ninjad by Kas xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: He didn’t c/p in the meme; obviously is e!indicative. …Ninjad by Kas xD I see a meme and I must answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 T-Minus 1 hour! Get your votes and actions in before it's too late! @JNV @Biplet @Fifth Scholar @Araris Valerian @The Known Novel @Channelknight Fadran @_Stick_ @Kasimir@The Bookwyrm @xinoehp512 @|TJ| @Ashbringer @Amanuensis @Matrim's Dice Current VC: Channelknight Fadran (3): Kasimir, Ashbringer, Amanuensis Fifth Scholar (2): xinoehp512, Matrim's Dice Kasimir (2): The Known Novel, The Bookwyrm JNV (1): _Stick_ Araris Valerian (1): Fifth Scholar The Known Novel (1): Araris Valerian The Bookwyrm (1): |TJ| Matrim's Dice (1): Channelknight Fadran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 So, uh, we cool with this? Fadran is not a great exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, _Stick_ said: So, uh, we cool with this? Fadran is not a great exe Are you calling for a JNV exe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Scholar Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, _Stick_ said: So, uh, we cool with this? Fadran is not a great exe Not willing to go to JNV but if you want to flashwagon Ash or Xino I’m down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 oh oop I'm being slain by none other than Kasimir (>:-__:-)> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Kasimir said: Are you calling for a JNV exe? yeah why not 1 minute ago, Fifth Scholar said: Not willing to go to JNV but if you want to flashwagon Ash or Xino I’m down Why’s JNV off the table for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Scholar Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, _Stick_ said: Why’s JNV off the table for you? Wholesome PM vibes, I guess? /shrug Off the table might not be the best choice of words. I have other people I would strongly prefer over him. Including Fadran, so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 *flps coin* Matrim Fifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNV Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: *flps coin* Matrim Fifth You know I wasnt going to vote but Fifths my PM buddy and all that and I conveniently popped online just in time to see this and honestly Ive been trying to vote D1 more and I dont see any reason not to so Fadran 4 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: yeah why not I feel like this is a like capital t thing now you do this a lot I mean I dont mind its just interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Scholar Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said: *flps coin* Matrim Fifth I would advise against this who wants to jump on Ashbringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Why’s JNV off the table for you? Very honestly, because I think they are readable later on - LG92 reasons, which will be clear very shortly. I think you even mentioned some of them to me in a DM so it's a bit odd to me you are not also taking a - not a tell, I suppose, a tendency you noticed seriously in this game. I will also say a significant part is guilt. I have MLed JNV or near MLed them a few times without hearing them out. I nearly did it in LG91, and indeed, do not feel I defended them sufficiently. I also MLed them in QF63 (Mat's game, if I've got the numbers wrong) and feel very bad about it. That's really it for me. I just want to be fair to JNV if I can. Edited to add: I'll acknowledge upfront that JNV, TJ, Fifth, Aman, and Araris are players I am not very good at being objective about for various reasons. I am working on tackling that since I know that exists. Edited February 23, 2023 by Kasimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Ashbringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: I would advise against this who wants to jump on Ashbringer I will if you find someone else (I don't wan die) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Note to self - don't touch the D1 ties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Channelknight Fadran (4): JNV, Kasimir, Ashbringer, Amanuensis Fifth Scholar (3): Channelknight Fadran, xinoehp512, Matrim's Dice Kasimir (2): The Known Novel, The Bookwyrm Ashbringer (2): Fifth Scholar, _Stick_ JNV (1): _Stick_ The Known Novel (1): Araris Valerian The Bookwyrm (1): |TJ| Oh SE, never change. Here's an updated VC for all of your last minute voting shenanigan needs. Please let me know if anything is off, as this is the Official™ VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Tbh there’s two of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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