Mid-Range Game 62: In The Shadow of Ash

[|TJ| he/him]

22 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Removing my village reads: <JNV, Araris, Kas, Aman, Mat>

Same as my PoE except I still have Bip in it, and about Mat in the limbo between my PoE and my trusts. I kinda get your point though, I've been trying to figure out Bip's meta and I think e!Bip wants to appear innocent and tries to make it look like so whereas v!Bip is straight up solvy. I think. 

14 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

also @Biplet @|TJ| @The Known Novel @Araris Valerian @JNV whichever of you have not been told by your doc-mates might be interested to learn that I am the Mistborn responsible for the Xino and Ash kills

uhhhh any reason why you shouldn't be e!Mistborn trying to emulate v!Mistborn? Any reason why you were suspicious of Xino? I did not see you mention xino in D1 at all iirc. 

Also, I think it's a BIG assumption  to think that the Inquisitor would not try to be themselves. 

Also, include me among the players side-eyeing Kas >> 

I'm traveling tonight so not sure of my availability till EoC, I'll join in on JNV from my PoE for now. 

[Stick. she/her]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

 

uhhhh any reason why you shouldn't be e!Mistborn trying to emulate v!Mistborn? Any reason why you were suspicious of Xino? I did not see you mention xino in D1 at all iirc. 

Also, I think it's a BIG assumption  to think that the Inquisitor would not try to be themselves. 

 

Would Striker really give the elim team two Mistborn + a conversion that could potentially give them a third MB though? Granted, the Inquisitor is a downgraded one but a MB nonetheless. 

[|TJ| he/him]

2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Would Striker really give the elim team two Mistborn + a conversion that could potentially give them a third MB though? Granted, the Inquisitor is a downgraded one but a MB nonetheless. 

Okay I went back and checked and apparently Inquisitor has the power of a Mistborn >> I just assumed he'd just be the person Spiking us and that's all. Okay disregard that comment, Fifth is likely village >>

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I'm going to switch from Stick to Mat. I was bouncing around the idea that e!Fifth might explain why nobody really lingered on the TKN train, but that claim supports my thought that there wasn't really any pressure on elims last cycle.

[Mat he/him]

Can formally unvote Fifth now that he ignored my advice and claimed in thread :P.

I feel really out of touch which is my fault and I’ll reread this morning and come up with a list. I presume people are voting me because I’m more distant? I did warn pregame my play would be like this.

Edit: He could be e!MB yeah but I’d rather consider that later. I kinda side eye Kas but only because he seems more elimmy in PMs. I like his thread posts.

Edited February 24, 2023 by Matrim's Dice

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

43 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Can formally unvote Fifth now that he ignored my advice and claimed in thread :P.

I feel really out of touch which is my fault and I’ll reread this morning and come up with a list. I presume people are voting me because I’m more distant? I did warn pregame my play would be like this.

Edit: He could be e!MB yeah but I’d rather consider that later. I kinda side eye Kas but only because he seems more elimmy in PMs. I like his thread posts.

Do you seriously think the entire elim team exists in the group of five people I have tagged because if so I am very interested in what you think the team looks like

 

[Mat he/him]

4 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Do you seriously think the entire elim team exists in the group of five people I have tagged because if so I am very interested in what you think the team looks like

TKN/Bip or TKN/JNV isn’t too outlandish. But the other side of this is me questioning why you claimed to so many people xD

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said:

TKN/Bip or TKN/JNV isn’t too outlandish. But the other side of this is me questioning why you claimed to so many people xD

Everyone but Kas, including you, claimed my role to me. I haven’t exactly been subtle in-thread.  

[|TJ| he/him]

@Araris Valerian, what do you think of Kas?

[Stick. she/her]

4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

TKN/Bip or TKN/JNV isn’t too outlandish. But the other side of this is me questioning why you claimed to so many people xD

Well if he isn’t evil already, at least we can hold him accountable for his actions now (edit: which will be useful in case the elims try converting him). Probably. 

Edited February 24, 2023 by _Stick_

[Amanuensis he/him]

2 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Everyone but Kas, including you, claimed my role to me. I haven’t exactly been subtle in-thread.  

Whoops

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Curious why you are v-reading Bip, but I am not averse to the list otherwise. 

eh soddit

I might as well go after my legal representation. Kasimir

Lawyer, defend thyself  

also @Biplet @|TJ| @The Known Novel @Araris Valerian @JNV whichever of you have not been told by your doc-mates might be interested to learn that I am the Mistborn responsible for the Xino and Ash kills

d1 reread has reinforced v!Stick, made me suspect v!Mat, and made me keep side-eyeing TJ. Aman seems Village holistically so not willing to Exe him right now

Had a feeling.

54 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Can formally unvote Fifth now that he ignored my advice and claimed in thread :P.

I feel really out of touch which is my fault and I’ll reread this morning and come up with a list. I presume people are voting me because I’m more distant? I did warn pregame my play would be like this.

Edit: He could be e!MB yeah but I’d rather consider that later. I kinda side eye Kas but only because he seems more elimmy in PMs. I like his thread posts.

I want to give Kas a little bit longer just in case, but I have a strong feeling my vote will be on him next cycle. His general participation has been either token or performative, and not in normal Kas fashion either. My overall feeling on our PM matches yours.

2 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Everyone but Kas, including you, claimed my role to me. I haven’t exactly been subtle in-thread.  

I haven't... 

[Stick. she/her]

Why did the elims kill Bookwyrm?

[Amanuensis he/him]

4 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Why did the elims kill Bookwyrm?

Good question. Low info works as well. When Fifth told me his kills and I passed it to Kas, Kas suggested it's because despite Book being up for the exe for a while, multiple players ended with a V!read of him.

Otherwise your guess is as good as mine

Edited February 24, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Kasimir he/him]

2 hours ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Lawyer, defend thyself  

I'm not really interested in doing so when you've made no argument. I've laid out my suspicions, and I'm going to go work on my deadlines. If I'm right, that's good enough for me and I'll take that, and say 'I told you so' after all this.

I'm going to point out though that TKN mentioning I'm low engagement is kind of rich given I've spelled out more of my thought process than he has, and I've stated right before starting this game that it comes at a busy period for me. In that light, I will be absolutely fine if you want to vote me for wanting to have healthier boundaries between my actual life and SE, and I can relax in the dead doc and focus on my backlog  

[Stick. she/her]

16 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Good question. Low info works as well. When Fifth told me his kills and I passed it to Kas, Kas suggested it's because despite Book being up for the exe for a while, multiple players ended with a V!read of him.

Otherwise your guess is as good as mine

Someone should go back and fact check this, but the only player publicly village reading Bookwyrm was Kas. Mat and I expressed village reads on Bookwyrm, but only in PMs with Kas. 

Edit:

Also it’s not exactly low info when Bookwyrm was a C1 side train. Killing him has revealed that most people up for the exe C1 were village. 

Edited February 24, 2023 by _Stick_

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, _Stick_ said:

Someone should go back and fact check this, but the only player publicly village reading Bookwyrm was Kas. Mat and I expressed village reads on Bookwyrm, but only in PMs with Kas. 

So I conflated the comments when trying to theorise about Bookwyrm's death. 

But, you know, sure. I'm done. I'll PM Araris his role.

Kasimir

I don't particularly care because I was going to have to ask for a pinch-hitter for RL reasons I'd rather not go into anyway, so cleaning me up simplifies the issue.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I have a village read on Kas, his line of reasoning in our PM feels very much like his village self.

[Stick. she/her]

Like I’ve said before I don’t think Kas is the inquisitor so I’m not down to vote there rn anyway

[Araris Valerian he/him]

He also correctly identified my role, for whatever that’s worth.

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Hmm. So if I trust the Kas—>Araris claim chain, I trust my Stick and TJ v!reads, I trust TKN, and think Aman is still village…

I’m back staring at Bip Mat JNV

LG92 really does never end >>

[Mat he/him]

45 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Everyone but Kas, including you, claimed my role to me. I haven’t exactly been subtle in-thread.  

I would not have figured it out if it hadn't been spelled out to me, but that's on me so point taken  

14 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Kasimir

Pleeeease don't vote against your wincon

I will never not call this out >>

I get that you think it's fine to die and that you think clearing this up is helpful which may be true but that is our decision and you should vote your suspicions.

20 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Also it’s not exactly low info when Bookwyrm was a C1 side train. Killing him has revealed that most people up for the exe C1 were village. 

I wonder if they were planning on pushing Ash. Would implicate you, tbh :P.

[Amanuensis he/him]

20 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Someone should go back and fact check this, but the only player publicly village reading Bookwyrm was Kas. Mat and I expressed village reads on Bookwyrm, but only in PMs with Kas. 

Edit:

Also it’s not exactly low info when Bookwyrm was a C1 side train. Killing him has revealed that most people up for the exe C1 were village. 

1) Mat told you about the contents of his PM with Kas, or?

2) TBF elims would not have seen the extra kills coming and Bookwyrm only had one voter near the end, which was TJ, yeah?

[Stick. she/her]

1 minute ago, Amanuensis said:

1) Mat told you about the contents of his PM with Kas, or?

2) TBF elims would not have seen the extra kills coming and Bookwyrm only had one voter near the end, which was TJ, yeah?

1) The other way around 

2) I guess. I’ve been hoping Fifth would just come out and say that he did in fact kill bookwyrm and not Xino but…I suppose not everything has to make sense 

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 minute ago, _Stick_ said:

1) The other way around 

2) I guess. I’ve been hoping Fifth would just come out and say that he did in fact kill bookwyrm and not Xino but…I suppose not everything has to make sense 

I just reread D1 and he did request a flashwagon on either Xino or Ash, so it does check out.

Guess it doesn't matter why the elims shot Book. It's not like there's a huge player list. We can probably find the person responsible via other avenues.