Ashbringer Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) I don’t think we should kill Mat before JNV. As strange as JNV’s scan was, the odds JNV got Trolled N2 are very low. Mat could be a Confirmed Villager. Otherwise Mat’s V unless JNV’s E. I’d also be somewhat nervous of E!Araris claiming NK immune while really being a Thug, but Thug generally doesn’t need a counterbalance. (Edit: and Araris got V!scanned, so is clear in a no-Elim-Troll world.) Edited February 17, 2023 by Ashbringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Biplet said: I'm for shooting JNV and Fae tbh. You and the sacred numbers both tbh. You are a wise individual to be in such attunement with the sacred numbers. 1 minute ago, Biplet said: I can't see a whole lot of reason for e!mat or araris? Well to be fair, do you see a lot of reason for v!mat or araris? For that matter, do you see a lot of reason for e!JNV or Fae? Idk where things really stand anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNV Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) You know deaths kind of an interesting proposition in this game cause its not so much about confirming suspicion so much as its about stopping powerful actions my miskill doesnt stop any powerful actions unless Im the funnel for NKs which isnt viable cause Ive been using my action in a provable manner I mean except for the even nights where Ive been getting shoddy info tehoretically could be murdering then so its not a big deal if I die Faes been around but not doing much so its viable they could be murdering we also dont have action accountability from them but it feels less plausible honestly Araris apparently cant be night killed so the obvious solution is to make them the vote if they live just murder them and I already said my last words N6 but heres the picture of the spider quokka hybrid with crab claws again Spoiler EDIT you know I just realized the quokkas standing on its feet and I put three sets of spider legs on it so thats actually ten limbs whoops Edited February 17, 2023 by JNV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Drake, I could make up reasons to v read and e read everyone It’s all pretty much just PoE point-and-shoot at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Drake, I could make up reasons to v read and e read everyone It’s all pretty much just PoE point-and-shoot at this point. Aint it just!! edit: yo @Amanuensis are u there perchance? if not is ok but if you happen to be here i have a small question in a similar but not quite the same vein as last time Edited February 17, 2023 by DrakeMarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Scholar Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 The night will soon be ending; the dawn cannot be far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 LG92: Day Eight - Nothing Important Happened Today Spoiler >>> Aman was DDoSed but survived! (Deja vu...) The Day has begun and will end on Sunday, 19th February 2022 at 1100hrs SGT (GMT+8)! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Rule Clarifications: Spoiler Kas and Fifth are only valid vote targets at parity. The wincons are complete. Flipless implies no roles and no alignments. Survivals, if any, will be written up in the standard way. Player List: Spoiler 1. @Ashbringer as Ash the Amateur, a RPing college student 2. @The Wandering Wizard as Emma, twin of Wiz, corruptor of all, avatar of the Kaos. 3. @Steeldancer as Steel 4. @Channelknight Fadran as Fadran the Guy From the Fellowship of the Thing Who Has Never Done This Before. 5. @StrikerEZ as Kjell, an overworked, stressed out man who really needs a break 6. @xinoehp512 as xinoehp513, a newbie to the forum that is very puzzled that his name was already taken. 7. @JNV as JNV 8. @Matrim's Dice as Matrim's Dice 9. @Biplet as Biplet 10. @Araris Valerian as Metalcognition, definitely not an imposter of the founder of SE. 11. @Devotary of Spontaneity as Cecelia, Devona, and Saponin 12. @Amanuensis as Adavantos 13. @The Known Novel as TKN (The Known (and Totally Kool) Novel) 14. @The Bookwyrm as Bookwyrm, the SE deprived Sharder who's doing this even though it might be a bad idea. 15. @Tani as Mehelin, a random bystander who isn't Randby. 16. @Archer as Archer, a player that's hellbent on PM spidering. 17. @Walin as Walin, the consistently befuddled and absent SE-er 18. @|TJ| as mad watcher 19. @dannnnnex as Danex 20. @DrakeMarshall as Drake 21. @Orlok Tsubodai as Orlok (he's Orlok right? I think?) 22. @Random Bystander as Random Bystander 23. @Sart as Sart 24. @Shining Silhouette as Silho, bootleg King's Wit 25. @The last Fae in the Woods as The last Fae in the Woods 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Sorry. I figured we should to do it one more time since the elims wouldn’t know I can be protected infinitely. Now they know so the jig is up. Glad Drake and Wiz proved themselves again though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Memes? Spoiler And Spoiler 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 So any suggestions? Who the heck is evil? There are 9 players left. Why is this so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: So any suggestions? Who the heck is evil? There are 9 players left. Why is this so hard? 1 person has died in the last 96 hours ... this is not the time for me to do this. But starting with JNV shouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Sorry. I figured we should to do it one more time since the elims wouldn’t know I can be protected infinitely. Now they know so the jig is up. Glad Drake and Wiz proved themselves again though. lol I was convinced they wouldn't try it again I kept trying to convince Wiz and then I was paranoia-ing so hard last night but you guys outvoted me in this case and it turns out that was a good thing PM buddies are nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: 1 person has died in the last 96 hours ... this is not the time for me to do this. But starting with JNV shouldn't hurt. TBF I would have died when my alignment wasn’t really in question, and you’d probably followed since you’re unexeable. I guess we did miss out in two kills, but there’s always the chance they make things worse. 4 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: lol I was convinced they wouldn't try it again I kept trying to convince Wiz and then I was paranoia-ing so hard last night but you guys outvoted me in this case and it turns out that was a good thing PM buddies are nice I’m just glad it worked out. Now I can vote Mat. Edited February 17, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 This happening again and Aman voting me out of everyone here is making me paranoid worlds I should not be paranoiding >> JNV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Spoiler I would like to add my vote to Matrim as this was the attack order I had decided on before I was able to get into contact with Wizard or Aman. Would JNV make more sense? Well maybe tbh. But at the same time I village-read JNV and I elim-read Matrim and at some point that has to outweigh unreliable scans. Reasons: Vibes :tm: PoE from kinda thinking everyone except Matrim and Araris seems village Tie Guy PoE (only relevant in an e!JNV world, mind, which again I find unlikely but it's still there) The D3 vote (voted Walin over Steel) The D5 vote All of these reasons are pretty self-explanatory except for the D5 vote. I thought it was weird that at the end of D5, at the first sign of Archer providing reasoning as an out to voting up Sart, multiple people jumped on it and switched off of Sart. But I dismissed it as just that, a little weird, but not necessarily alignment indicative. After all, weird as it was, what did the elims even have to gain by it? Sart and Steel were both evil, right? Then I realized Sart, unlike Steel, was very probably NK immune. In light of this I find Matrim's D5 switch at EoD kinda suspect. Wizard did more or less the same thing but I trust Mat less than Wizard if I'm picking between them. EDIT: Also this is largely unrelated to anything, but I'm surprised more dead players aren't using their votes, at least symbolically. If I was dead I would still vote at the beginning of every single cycle but then I would retract before EoD with like a 75% chance. Just to keep the votes flowing, ya know? Can still apply pressure that way. Edited February 17, 2023 by DrakeMarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) I guess I can’t dispute vibes Will note that vibe reads tend to be unreliable on me (with the exception of a very select examples) but sure I guess Tie Guy PoE is just a bad reason to include in this list of voting me over JNV and you even acknowledge that like what xD if you’re going to vote me partially because of the tie guy PoE, JNV should go first. Every time. Normal PoE as a reason is similarly /shrug to me as a reason cause yeah sure you do you I did vote Walin over Steel, yeah. I elim read Walin and I village read Steel. I won’t make up excuses here because there are none Do you think Sart is NK immune, or not? Him being so was my v!Archer case, essentially. But no, you said, it’s an OoA RB weird thing and you went and killed Archer, and now you’re back to the other answer. I’m indifferent to which it is but e!Sart who is NK immune doesn’t work with e!Archer imo so you should really make up your mind about whether I was right about Archer or not and stop switching to whichever side is convenient for your argument Want me to TC today? Edit: Wait wasn’t D3 a Tie Guy day Dude you can’t elim read me off of a vote I literally couldn’t move without messing up Orlok’s scan >> Even if I did e read Walin Edited February 17, 2023 by Matrim's Dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Tie Guy PoE is just a bad reason to include in this list of voting me over JNV and you even acknowledge that like what xD if you’re going to vote me partially because of the tie guy PoE, JNV should go first. Every time. Normal PoE as a reason is similarly /shrug to me as a reason cause yeah sure you do you Tie Guy PoE affects you and JNV equally, in essence. Since it is only relevant in a world where the two of you are E/E. It is a reason to vote for one of you two, but to decide which one of you to vote for, we have to base the decision off of the possible worlds where you guys are V/E. Admittedly, I think elim #2 in the Tie Guy pool might already be dead, but I do appreciate thoroughness. Normal PoE is different bc unlike Tie Guy it has nothing to do with Confirmed Villager roles existing or not. 34 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Do you think Sart is NK immune, or not? Him being so was my v!Archer case, essentially. But no, you said, it’s an OoA RB weird thing and you went and killed Archer, and now you’re back to the other answer. I’m indifferent to which it is but e!Sart who is NK immune doesn’t work with e!Archer imo so you should really make up your mind about whether I was right about Archer or not and stop switching to whichever side is convenient for your argument Personally yea I think it’s possible. I never said I thought Sart’s thing was a result of OoA shenanigans that was somebody else. I think e!Sart and e!Archer might have worked on the basis that role analysis is just generally a bit sketchy. 37 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Edit: Wait wasn’t D3 a Tie Guy day Dude you can’t elim read me off of a vote I literally couldn’t move without messing up Orlok’s scan >> Even if I did e read Walin Can’t I? I mean sure you couldn’t break the tie but you were still playing a part in deciding which parties were involved in the tie in the first place. On that note, why did you suspect Walin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) hm so I think I and possibly everyone else should have continued to scrutinize D5 after we figured out that Steel and Sart were both elims tbh in the very least it might have convinced me to shoot somebody other than TJ but spilt milk and all that Matrim Araris. For now. Edited February 17, 2023 by DrakeMarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 ALIGNMENTS: Spoiler Aman - Village - From Striker Lynchbait Scan, Sart N1 Scan* Striker - Village - From Bookwyrm N1 Scan Wizard - Village - From Fae 'SE Buddy' role Orlok - Village - From Bookwyrm N2 Scan, backed up by Araris antitroll. Mat - Village - From UPS Scan Araris - Village - From Bookwyrm N3 Scan, Sart N2 Scan* Biplet Elim - From Sart N3 Scan* Steel - Elim - From RandBy N4 Scan Tani - Elim - Claimed Shining - Okay fine claim redacted 2 Elims in pool of Mat/Drake/Ash/Shining/TJ/Archer/Steel/TKN - from Orlok Tie Guy 2 Elims in pool of Mat/Drake/Ash/Shining/Biplet/Wizard/Amanuensis/Orlok - from Steel Tie Guy* * Sart and Steel are relatively likely Elims. ROLES: Spoiler Ashbringer - Thread Master (Immune to Execution), Veteran (Removes one vote from self) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Proven) Wizard - PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Steeldancer - Pinch Hitter (Copy the Role of a Removed/DDoSed player (does something interesting if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Fadran - Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled), Confirmed Villager (Always scans as Village) (Seems concerned about someone who's trying to incite a civil war, thus providing the necessary blood sacrifice to complete the nationwide transmutation circle in order to create a sufficiently powerful philosopher's stone and attain God) (Status - Role 1 Proven via Troll Immunity generation, Role 2 Unproven) Striker - Lynchbait (Will place an Extra Vote on a random player who both had a vote on the Lynchbait at the 24 hour mark of the previous Day turn and is of the same alignment), Stab Voter (If your first vote is placed in the first 24 hours of a Day turn and does not change, it counts as double) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven, Dead) xino - Multiquoter (Learn target's target (learn who targeted the target if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown) JNV - UPS Driver / PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Matrim's Dice - Tunnel Constructor (Force execution to either kill you or a target player, if triggered before Rollovet) (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown) Biplet - Meme Maker (Can see if a target gets Trolled (false info if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven as Bip knew the role name, Role 2 Unknown) Araris - Meme Maker (Can see if a target gets Trolled (false info if Trolled) ), Porch-Sitter (Added vote to self if voted on but immune to NKs) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Proven to exist but NK immunity unproven) Devotary - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Amanuensis - Goalkeeper (Protect target other player (turned to a Kill if Trolled) ), Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled... I think) (Status - Role 1 Proven via initial claims, Role 2 Proven) TKN - Goalkeeper (Protect target other player (turned to a Kill if Trolled) ) The Bookwyrm - Analyst (Alignment Scan someone you voted for or who voted on you last turn (incorrect alignment if Trolled) (Status - Role 1 Proven via RandBy, Role 2 Unknown) Tani - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown) Archer - PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ), Rules Ignorer (Ignores most Night Actions) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven even if it would explain a good amount) Walin - Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled... I think) (Status - Role 1 Proven via Troll Immunity, Role 2 Unknown) TJ - Wallposter (Roleblock target player (Makes target immune to non-Troll Disruption if Trolled) ), Veteran (Removes one vote from self) (Status - Role 1 PseudoProven, Role 2 PseudoProven but can confirm via a vote) Dannnnnex - Tie Guy (Learn alignments of players involved in a tie (need specifics, ??? If Trolled) (Status - Role 1 Proven via Orlok and Steel, Role 2 Unknown) _Stick_/Drake - Terminal Seeker (NK a target (protects the target if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Orlok - Pinch Hitter (Copy the Role of a Removed/DDoSed player (does something interesting if Trolled) ) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) RandBy - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) ), Tunnel Constructor (Force execution to either kill you or a target player, if triggered before Rollovet) (Status - Role 1 Proven via initial claim, Role 2 Unproven) Sart - Analyst (Alignment Scan someone you voted for or who voted on you last turn (incorrect alignment if Trolled) Shining - Discussion Leader (Move a vote) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown) Fae - PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ), SE Buddy (Automatically know one Villager is Village at game start) (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven) We're missing an Elim Roleblocker. VOTE COUNTS: Spoiler D1: StrikerEZ (6): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Devotary of Spontaneity, Shining Silhouette, Stick, The Bookwyrm The Bookwyrm (3): StrikerEZ, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 Walin (3): Channelknight Fadran, Matrim's Dice, Archer Amanuensis (2): Sart, Steeldancer Shining Silhouette (2): Amanuensis, TJ Channelknight Fadran (1): The Known Novel Stick (1): Orlok Tsubodai The Wandering Wizard (1): Tani D2: Danex (6): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Stick, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 Araris Valerian (2): Sart Ashbringer (0): Shining Silhouette JNV (1): TJ Matrim's Dice (1): Danex Orlok Tsubodai (1): The Bookwyrm Aman (1): Stick (1): Araris Valerian Walin (1): Archer D3: Steeldancer (4): Archer, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, The Known Novel Walin (4): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, Steeldancer, TJ Biplet (2): Sart, The Wandering Wizard Araris Valerian (2): The Bookwyrm Sart (1): Araris Valerian D4: Ashbringer (3): Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard, Orlok Tsubodai Biplet (3): Amanuensis, DrakeMarshall, Shining Silhouette Steeldancer (1): Random Bystander Sart (1): D5: Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, Matrim's Dice, Orlok Tsubodai, The last Fae in the Woods, The Wandering Wizard Sart (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, TJ Channelknight Fadran (3): Araris Valerian, Biplet, Steeldancer Biplet (1): Sart D6: Channelknight Fadran (5): Archer, Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard Archer (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, DrakeMarshall, JNV D7: Archer (5): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV JNV (2): Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard Matrim's Dice (1): The last Fae in the Woods VOTE COUNTS (NOW WITH TECHNICOLOR): Spoiler D1: StrikerEZ (6): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Devotary of Spontaneity, Shining Silhouette, Stick, The Bookwyrm The Bookwyrm (3): StrikerEZ, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 Walin (3): Channelknight Fadran, Matrim's Dice, Archer Amanuensis (2): Sart, Steeldancer Shining Silhouette (2): Amanuensis, TJ Channelknight Fadran (1): The Known Novel Stick (1): Orlok Tsubodai The Wandering Wizard (1): Tani D2: Danex (6): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Stick, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 Araris Valerian (2): Sart Ashbringer (0): Shining Silhouette JNV (1): TJ Matrim's Dice (1): Danex Orlok Tsubodai (1): The Bookwyrm Amanuensis (1): Stick (1): Araris Valerian Walin (1): Archer D3: Steeldancer (4): Archer, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, The Known Novel Walin (4): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, Steeldancer, TJ Biplet (2): Sart, The Wandering Wizard Araris Valerian (2): The Bookwyrm Sart (1): Araris Valerian D4: Ashbringer (3): Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard, Orlok Tsubodai Biplet (3): Amanuensis, DrakeMarshall, Shining Silhouette Steeldancer (1): Random Bystander Sart (1): D5: Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, Matrim's Dice, Orlok Tsubodai, The last Fae in the Woods, The Wandering Wizard Sart (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, TJ Channelknight Fadran (3): Araris Valerian, Biplet, Steeldancer Biplet (1): Sart D6: Channelknight Fadran (5): Archer, Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard Archer (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, DrakeMarshall, JNV D7: Archer (5): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV JNV (2): Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard Matrim's Dice (1): The last Fae in the Woods ... yes something did change. Araris's roleclaim is slightly longer ... and more Ghost Quote Boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 I think Archer and Steel were our Tie Guy elims. If there is another one, it would be someone that is a Confirmed Villager. So no voting Matrim for me, at least until JNV and Fae are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Leaf Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said: So no voting Matrim for me, at least until JNV and Fae are dead. I feel offended, but it makes sense, so I will help you get rid of JNV but I am innocent, though there is no way to prove it without Wizard's help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 11 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said: EDIT: Also this is largely unrelated to anything, but I'm surprised more dead players aren't using their votes, at least symbolically. If I was dead I would still vote at the beginning of every single cycle but then I would retract before EoD with like a 75% chance. Just to keep the votes flowing, ya know? Can still apply pressure that way. I just worry about missing rollover and forgetting to move my vote. Because I have missed several of the last few rollovers. However, I will say that I think we should go for JNV today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: I feel offended, but it makes sense, so I will help you get rid of JNV but I am innocent, though there is no way to prove it without Wizard's help. Yeah, don't necessarily think that you are village. There's a chance, but not certain anymore. Feel like going Araris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: I mean sure you couldn’t break the tie but you were still playing a part in deciding which parties were involved in the tie in the first place. On that note, why did you suspect Walin? Yeah but I voted Walin like really early on, before Orlok's reveal and before Steel had any votes. So it wasn't a conscious choice to pick Walin over Steel. I would have picked Walin over Steel, but I think your point was about the timing more than anything else so my likely bad reads shouldn't play a huge factor. Confirmed wrong =/= confirmed evil, yeah? I suspected Walin because his posts were focused specifically on making himself look better, and he was trying to hide it. There was a decent amount of gut in the read, but it stemmed off of bad feelings in that regard. I don't remember exactly, it was awhile ago, so there was probably something else too. (I wrote this response last night, and apparently forgot to post it, sorry >>) Is the Araris theory that Bookwyrm was trolled, I guess? Which works with e!Fadran and him not submitting an action on Randby's scan? Or something else. Trying to figure out the logistics of this since I like it less than JNV just because Araris is in our confirmed list. How paranoid is this read, I haven't been paying enough attention. And I do get e/e vibes off Wiz/Fae, I'm sorry. Wiz has been real quiet lately, when he was quite analytical in the earlier game. We haven't seen any other SE Buddy roles. Their votes don't sit well with me. But JNV first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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