Quick Fix Game 49: Chaos in Newcago

[Illwei]

3 hours ago, Ookla the Paradoxical said:

Speaking of throwing shade, TJ

Man, throwing TJ? ouch, TJ. 

Uh Anyways I don't wanna kill Archer even if they are an Elim rn, I like Archer. 

I'm losing my reasoning against Elandera. I'm not keeping good notes this game agh. 

VC? @Straw 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Ooklil' the Wei

[Straw he/him]

13 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Man, throwing TJ? ouch, TJ. 

Uh Anyways I don't wanna kill Archer even if they are an Elim rn, I like Archer. 

I'm losing my reasoning against Elandera. I'm not keeping good notes this game agh. 

VC? @Straw 

Archer (3): A Joe in the Bush, Somebody from Sel, TJ Shade
Elandera (2): Illwei, Liranil
Araris Valerian (1): Experience
Experience (1): Araris Valerian
Somebody from Sel (1): Elandera

[Illwei]

so uh I don't wanna kill archer, but I also don't remember my reasoning for Elandera besides them not being town for reasons Archer thinks. I like Archer, I wanna keep him around.

I'm thinking  Somebody

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Experience. While recognizing that I have a strong bias on the subject of votes, I an not inclined to find Archer suspicious, and instead would prefer to lynch SfS. In particular, I would say that the recent streak of elim wins has been due to lower voting activity from villagers (this si coming from someone who used the lack of village votes in the last 2 games to pull out an elim win). I also am not a fan of the lynch on Elandera, although maybe I just don't understand it.

21 hours ago, Somebody from Sel said:

I disagree with the push to vote, I think Gears is once again getting sus for no/a bad reason. Illwei is pretty cleared die to the reasons pointed out by the above. I will vote for Vapor for inactivity reasons.

This is the post that rubs me wrong. An overly hasty clear of Illwei and a disagreement with lots of voting. The vote on Vapor is also pointless.

Ninja'd by Illwei.

[Illwei]

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

and instead would prefer to lynch SfS

huh.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

2 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

huh.

Hmm.

I'd be happy to lynch Experience as well, but nobody else seemed to want to join me on that front.

[Illwei]

Just now, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

I'd be happy to lynch Experience as well, but nobody else seemed to want to join me on that front.

I think Experience voting on D1 is enough for me to be okay with keeping him alive for now, otherwise I was thinking of joining you on XP. I didn't want Archer to die though. 

[Vapor she/her]

6 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

Experience. While recognizing that I have a strong bias on the subject of votes, I an not inclined to find Archer suspicious, and instead would prefer to lynch SfS. In particular, I would say that the recent streak of elim wins has been due to lower voting activity from villagers (this si coming from someone who used the lack of village votes in the last 2 games to pull out an elim win). I also am not a fan of the lynch on Elandera, although maybe I just don't understand it.

This is the post that rubs me wrong. An overly hasty clear of Illwei and a disagreement with lots of voting. The vote on Vapor is also pointless.

Ninja'd by Illwei.

I agree with this. I was inactive and I couldn’t get on that cycle, so he votes on me? Somebody

[Illwei]

Just now, Vapor said:

I agree with this. I was inactive and I couldn’t get on that cycle, so he votes on me? Somebody

Huh see I don't like this now that this' happened. easy vote and stuff but also would an Elim want to be a deciding vote? only makes sense if Archer/Vapor Elim team. 

[Experience he/him]

28 minutes ago, Vapor said:

I agree with this. I was inactive and I couldn’t get on that cycle, so he votes on me? Somebody

This looks very much like you're just jumping on the train. Vapor

[Archer he/him]

Crasher held out a small radio to Sal Cómin. It flickered between channels for a moment, playing static, before settling into the opening chords of a popular Queen song. 

'Caaaaaan AN-Y-BODY... find meeee... somebody toooooo loveeee?'

As the opening piano bit played, Crasher shook his head. "Nothing personal, mate. I just don't feel like dying right now."

[Straw he/him]

The cycle is over!

[Straw he/him]

Sal Cómin was walking along when one of the other epics ran up to them and started playing some song on the radio. While Sal stared in confusion, they failed to notice the large crowd of other epics sneaking up on them with obsidian daggers. Before Sal knew what was happening, they had been stabbed to death.

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Somebody from Sel has died! He was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count

Somebody from Sel (5): Araris Valerian, Archer, Elandera, Illwei, Vapor
Archer (3): A Joe in the Bush, Somebody from Sel, TJ Shade
Elandera (1): Liranil
Vapor (1): Experience

GM Notes

• The cycle will end on December 9th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• Speaking of vote counts, it looks like I forgot to put the one for last cycle in the writeup. I've edited it in.
• The Windrunner Supreme has been replaced by @Ookla the Disproportionate (Danex). Please welcome him to the game!

Player List

Spoiler

1. @A Joe in the Bush - Endless Wrath
2. @Ookla the Araris Valerian (Araris Valerian) - Max
3. @Ookla the Paradoxical (Archer) - Crasher
4. @Ookla the Grammatical (Condensation) - Fritz
5. @Elandera
6. @Ookla the Shadowed (Experience)
7. @Gears - Mori
8. @Ooklil' the Wei (Illwei)
9. @Liranil - Natalie
10. @Lord_Silberfarben
11. Quinn0928 - Starstrike Lesser Epic
12. Somebody from Sel - Sal Cómin Lesser Epic
13. @Ookla the Disproportionate
14. @TJ Shade
15. @Vapor - Vanessa

[Illwei]

huh okay so...

I...

Elandera

[dannnex male]

Hello!

I’ve gotta read through the cycles so far, so don’t expect a ton out of me immediately.

[Experience he/him]

I think that one of the ladder voters on Somebody are most likely an elim, so I'm voting Archer. They claimed they were voting on somebody in order to not die, but it was 4-3 on somebody already.

[Vapor she/her]

2 hours ago, Vapor said:

I agree with this. I was inactive and I couldn’t get on that cycle, so he votes on me? Somebody

 

1 hour ago, Ookla the Shadowed said:

This looks very much like you're just jumping on the train. Vapor

I'm now reading over this and it does look a whole lot like that. I agree.

[Illwei]

Vapor, you agree that you look suspicious because you jumped on SfS?

EDIT: I'm going to try to do some looking through the threads and come back in a bit with my conclusions, if i have any. 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Ooklil' the Wei

[Vapor she/her]

Just now, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Vapor, you agree that you look suspicious because you jumped on SfS?

I agree that it would look suspicious to me if someone did it.

[Archer he/him]

Crasher looked down at the dead body in front of him. "Wow, you all really just stabbed him in the back, huh. I guess he never... Sal it Cómin."

Welcome, Dannex! I'm gonna guess Dannex is safe because no elim would abandon the chance to play elim. 

18 minutes ago, Ookla the Shadowed said:

I think that one of the ladder voters on Somebody are most likely an elim, so I'm voting Archer. They claimed they were voting on somebody in order to not die, but it was 4-3 on somebody already.

 

My vote last time was defensive, because for a while there, it was looking like I might get lynched. I was worried someone would switch at last minute, so I wanted to be sure. Voting for someone else risked angering them and having them switch to me. So I band-wagoned so I'd have a vote in. Because as I always say, it's important to vote. 

Even I think the Vapor vote looked suspicious, and they defended me. People who come in at last minute and throw in important votes without long explanations seem suspicious. Which is why I am voting Experience for now. Their reasoning has been shallow so far. 

Let's look at why Vapour might have done cast their vote when and how they did. Maybe we're both elim and he was protecting me. If so, it was likely opportunist. Maybe they wanted to avoid being active without voting, so they just hopped on a bandwagon. If so, they chose not to railroad me or Elandera. Maybe they really thought Somebody was an elim. Maybe they trusted I am a villager and wanted to avoid my lynching. Maybe they're elim and wanted to pocket me. Vapor, would you like to commit to one of those options? 

[Experience he/him]

9 minutes ago, Ookla the Paradoxical said:

Crasher looked down at the dead body in front of him. "Wow, you all really just stabbed him in the back, huh. I guess he never... Sal it Cómin."

Welcome, Dannex! I'm gonna guess Dannex is safe because no elim would abandon the chance to play elim. 

 

My vote last time was defensive, because for a while there, it was looking like I might get lynched. I was worried someone would switch at last minute, so I wanted to be sure. Voting for someone else risked angering them and having them switch to me. So I band-wagoned so I'd have a vote in. Because as I always say, it's important to vote. 

Even I think the Vapor vote looked suspicious, and they defended me. People who come in at last minute and throw in important votes without long explanations seem suspicious. Which is why I am voting Experience for now. Their reasoning has been shallow so far. 

Let's look at why Vapour might have done cast their vote when and how they did. Maybe we're both elim and he was protecting me. If so, it was likely opportunist. Maybe they wanted to avoid being active without voting, so they just hopped on a bandwagon. If so, they chose not to railroad me or Elandera. Maybe they really thought Somebody was an elim. Maybe they trusted I am a villager and wanted to avoid my lynching. Maybe they're elim and wanted to pocket me. Vapor, would you like to commit to one of those options? 

I don't feel like I need more reasoning then what has already been said. It is what has been said, partly gut feeling, and it seems like your being pretty defensive and trying to deflect attention onto Vapor.

[Condensation she/her]

So... we're having a little bit of a hard time. That's all right! I think the elims might be controlling the vote, but it's certainly not for sure. They could be inactive and we're just idiots. However, I'd prefer if it were the first one. Wouldn't you?

So because the elims don't have a kill(I just checked) then we have no concrete way of knowing if they're inactive or not.

[Illwei]

@Straw couple questions:

Do the reckoners need to outnumber the Epics or do they need Parity?
I was originally assuming Parity but then there's the chance that, say they ignite to get to 2-2, village votes out a reckoner via...rng..., 2-1, there's the option that you vote out a reckoner again then it's 1-0 if they ignite. of course...doubt they'd do that if they couldn't win on it lol. 

Can they ignite and douse on the same cycle? because I guess then Parity would be a win...because they could douse/ignite on the same cycle, and I guess then...well, best case scenario everyone dies? idk

Edited December 9, 2020 by Ooklil' the Wei

[Straw he/him]

28 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

@Straw couple questions:

Do the reckoners need to outnumber the Epics or do they need Parity?
I was originally assuming Parity but then there's the chance that, say they ignite to get to 2-2, village votes out a reckoner via...rng..., 2-1, there's the option that you vote out a reckoner again then it's 1-0 if they ignite. of course...doubt they'd do that if they couldn't win on it lol. 

Can they ignite and douse on the same cycle? because I guess then Parity would be a win...because they could douse/ignite on the same cycle, and I guess then...well, best case scenario everyone dies? idk

Both questions are answered in the rules:

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Reckoners: There are exactly 3 Reckoners. Your goal is to have more living players than the Lesser Epics.

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You can choose whether you enact your plans before or after researching that cycle's target.

So yes it's outnumber, not parity, and yes they can ignite and douse on the same cycle.

[Illwei]

1 minute ago, Straw said:

Both questions are answered in the rules:

Oop I must be blind, because I read over the factions section like 5 times before sending that post lol.