Mid-Range Game 63: The Outcasts of Tyrian Falls

[Kasimir he/him]

9 hours ago, The Known Novel said:

But you get converted to the pseudo village faction!

Noted though.

Siiiiiiiigh. Fiiiiiiiiine

Guess it's time to dust off low-commitment Kas >>

I mean it, people. I have seven writing projects, inspiration has exploded, and I need to deliver and actually finish all the WIPs >>

 

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Opening a flatbread place in the middle of Tyrian Falls wasn't what some people would call a 'wise business decision.'

Personally, Kaider thought they were fools. Baked flatbread with shredded, melted cheese and bits of meat and tomato sauce on the top was going to dominate the baywrap industry. In fact, it was the future of fast food, if you had the vision. And weren't the sort to commit blasphemy by adding sliced pineapple to the mix.

Just Kaider, thank you. Shaken, not stirred. What, you thought it was his real name? Don't be a fool. No one in the 'business' tells you their real name, not on the first ride anyway. Wasn't a fan of those alliterations neither.

"Hey Kaider," said Quell. "I'd like a pizza."

"For the twentieth time," Kaider snarled, through his teeth, "It's not a-"

"I'd like a piece'o that."

Kaider sucked in a deep breath. If he could deal with that stupid, stupid name that the villagers of Tyrian Falls had bequeathed his culinary masterpiece, his creation. Who the hell named something that delicious a pizza anyway?

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Signing up as Kaider, local flatbread dealer, who will actually murder you if you dare call it a pizza.

Edited to add: @The Known Novel - Do we send you the PM order and you make it, or DIY but making the PM hard-commits you to having given up your action?

Edited April 14, 2023 by Kasimir

[DeTess she/her]

Oh, I probably should indicate I actually want to play this game, rather than breaking my long silence with some questions and then refusing to elaborate

Edited April 14, 2023 by DeTess

[Amanuensis he/him]

33 minutes ago, DeTess said:

Oh, I probably should indicate I actually want to play this game, rather than breaking my long silence with some questions and then refusing to elaborate

Tbh I've been wondering since that post haha. Glad to have you back

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

3 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Siiiiiiiigh. Fiiiiiiiiine

Guess it's time to dust off low-commitment Kas >>

I mean it, people. I have seven writing projects, inspiration has exploded, and I need to deliver and actually finish all the WIPs >>

 

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Opening a flatbread place in the middle of Tyrian Falls wasn't what some people would call a 'wise business decision.'

Personally, Kaider thought they were fools. Baked flatbread with shredded, melted cheese and bits of meat and tomato sauce on the top was going to dominate the baywrap industry. In fact, it was the future of fast food, if you had the vision. And weren't the sort to commit blasphemy by adding sliced pineapple to the mix.

Just Kaider, thank you. Shaken, not stirred. What, you thought it was his real name? Don't be a fool. No one in the 'business' tells you their real name, not on the first ride anyway. Wasn't a fan of those alliterations neither.

"Hey Kaider," said Quell. "I'd like a pizza."

"For the twentieth time," Kaider snarled, through his teeth, "It's not a-"

"I'd like a piece'o that."

Kaider sucked in a deep breath. If he could deal with that stupid, stupid name that the villagers of Tyrian Falls had bequeathed his culinary masterpiece, his creation. Who the hell named something that delicious a pizza anyway?

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Signing up as Kaider, local flatbread dealer, who will actually murder you if you dare call it a pizza.

Edited to add: @The Known Novel - Do we send you the PM order and you make it, or DIY but making the PM hard-commits you to having given up your action?

You must send in the order like a role action.

[JNV]

Signing up as Jen 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Decent bit under 48 hours remaining until signups close! 

Edit: Also a final request for anyone who is willing to Co-GM for this game. PM me if you are interested!

Edited April 16, 2023 by The Known Novel

[Kasimir he/him]

Unfortunately going to have to pull out. Last minute urgent work request that is going to leave me swamped through next week. Have fun, everyone!

[Amanuensis he/him]

6 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Unfortunately going to have to pull out. Last minute urgent work request that is going to leave me swamped through next week. Have fun, everyone!

Shame  good luck with work!

And then there were 10…

Edited April 16, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Telrao she/her]

Hullo! I won't be able to play, but I'd love to spectate, if that's OK!

*rubs hands* This game looks like it's gonna be entertainin'  

[xinoehp512 he/him]

I think I must also switch to pinch hitter.

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

@The Known Novel I’ll be Storm, FWIW right before it starts.

EDIT: @solarcat you were wanting to join a game at some point, right? This one’s about to start if you want to join really quick. I’m super excited!

Edited April 18, 2023 by TheAlpha929

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Sign ups are closed! Expect Cycle One shortlyish.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Cycle One - Whatcha Gonna Do?

Scarthroat always got the solo jobs. By the time she’d convinced everybody that she was a trustworthy member of the mob, not just a minor noble heir, nobody had wanted to work with her. At least she was feared enough that only the mob boss could give her orders. She still remembered the delightful looks on her family’s faces as she’d sent their lifeblood flowing into the dirt. Word of her unhesitant willingness to execute unarmed prisoners had gone a long way towards convincing the mob that she was both loyal and not to be trifled with.

Her fingers traced the jagged scar where she had once sliced open her larynx to prevent her parents from selling her off to have some noblewoman’s children. Yes, her parents had deserved death. Her younger brothers had simply been in the way of what she wanted. Not that she had gained everything she wanted. She still had to follow orders of one too many people. Iron Acey had sent her to this isolated town of Tyrian Falls alone with no information and no instructions other than that he wanted the metal in this town for himself. 

She frowned, idly filing her right nails blunt and her left nails to a point with a glass knife as she waited for a report from her first informant in Tyrian Falls. She couldn’t rely on that idiot Copper Copper. The fact that other members of the mob had been sent to Tyrian Falls was not unexpected, but she’d hoped they’d at least be competent. One of them had even tried to flirt with her, which he should have known better than to try. She’d been nice and let the man live with just a flat slice across his neck in exchange for the information that his squad had been sent by Tin Capone, the mob’s new boss. If he was lucky, the wound wouldn’t even scar. 

She harbored no illusions that Tin Capone would be a better boss than Iron Acey. She’d observed him to be unpredictable and violent, even by her standards. She had a reputation for having a voice like broken glass and a personality to match, but broken glass was simple. If someone tried to touch it, they’d be cut with just the right amount of force to discourage future attempts. Capone killed randomly, with little concern for the long term consequences. He’d made a mistake in claiming the top spot through murder. Those who gained power through force lost it just as quickly without a stable base of support, and Capone evidently hadn’t been able to round up anyone better than Copper Copper and his woefully inexperienced followers. She’d use them to gain a foothold in this town and then discard the ones who weren’t willing to swear undying loyalty to her once she gained enough boxings and recruits from Tyrian Falls to build her own base of operations. By the time she was ready to challenge Capone for leadership, the entire mob would be behind her. 

She sighed as she finished her filing with no report in sight. First she had to hope her informant and whatever allies they could scrounge up could do their jobs. It wasn’t worth the risk to enter the town yet if it was as murderously paranoid of strangers as Copper Copper claimed it was. If this was how depending on others felt, perhaps she was better suited for solo work after all. 

~

Reve woke up, her stolen body leaping to attention. Tyrian Falls was under attack yet again. Time to add more spirits of the dead to her consciousness. Even with so few villagers, any violent deaths would be a blessing.

~

Welcome to Mid-Range Game 63, Cycle One. You can thank the IM, @Devotary of Spontaneity, for the above lovely writeup, and if you have any concerns or trouble with other players, please direct them to her.

If you have not yet received your GMPM, please PM me. It may be a bit old in your inbox though, so check thoroughly. 

Some Things to Note:

• There is an Inactivity Filter of two cycles. If you do not post, you will be @ ed, then removed.
• There is a vote minimum of two total votes, and any ties will be decided randomly.
• PMs are closed! If you wish to make a PM, you must send an order in your GMPM, and it will be made at the start of the next turn.
• This cycle will end at 9:30 PM MT on the 17th of April.
• Have fun!

The rules are also available for your perusal here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FHjcSnyL8yBw4PAU14BhuA04xNlyKcoQ8lItNCbSUSc/edit?usp=drivesdk

Player List:

Spoiler

1. @Amanuensis
2. @TheAlpha929 as Storm
3. @Matrim's Dice
4. @Archer as  Forge Tabowtit
5. @_Stick_
6. @Shining Silhouette
7. @Araris Valerian as Cloudy Copper
8. @DeTess
9. @JNV as Jen

 

Edited April 18, 2023 by The Known Novel

[Archer he/him]

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• There is a vote minimum of two total votes, and any ties will be decided randomly.

Must be cast on the same person or total across the field? 

I miscounted how many players we have during my prep work. My initial thoughts were balancing a 12 player roster: 2M:7S:3I. If by the end of C2, one of every faction dies, a Mobborn convert occurs of a Skaa, and the Skaa take the extra death, it will be 2M:4S:2I. That feels like a reasonable progression.
-One Mobborn is too volatile, so you have to have at least two. With Soothing, action shenanigans, and kills floating around, let's say they only convert someone every other cycle.
-It's possible the Informers will be
Mobborned, so they need a healthy number of members. But there's a built in assumption that villageish infighting will prevent them from being targeted as aggressively as normal, so those factors even out to the default of about a quarter.
-The Survivors have no fractional ability, so the distro compensates by giving them the most members.

-I think I'm going to back off of my multiple Mobborn assumption and assume less Soothing in play to compensate.
-I'm going to make the argument for 2 Informers. 3 vs a coordinated village in a normal game is considered a little over powered, especially with a party wincon. So it has to be two. 

-1M:2I:6S is where I'm at, unless it's 2M with a lower likelihood of someone being converted each cycle. 

Aman

[Mat he/him]

No idea what the ratio would be, except for that it's probably something unexpected cause that's how these things go. I'm outsmarting the system by not setting expectations at all.

You guys get low-effort Mat this game, as I'm very busy these next few weeks, buuuut even low-effort Mat tends to find himself spending more time than he ought to playing SE so I doubt it will make much difference in the long run :P.

*checks player list* woah 9 is less than I thought for some reason. I clearly didn't read Archer's post carefully enough.

JNV

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

17 minutes ago, Archer said:

Must be cast on the same person or total across the field? 

I direct you to this portion of the rules:

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• There will be a vote minimum of two, which may be spread out or congregated as the players wish.

 

[DeTess she/her]

So, the trickiest bit of this game I am trying to wrap my head around is the Mobborn. The informers are a pretty standard elim faction, but the Mobborn will blend in quite well with the village, at least to start with. They are also looking to deal with the elims, though they want the game to last long enough for them to get a majority. Going by Archer's analysis (which seems somewhat sensible), then the Mobborn might try to pump the breaks a bit if an elim gets lynched C1 which might make them easier to tell apart from villagers. There is also the fact that as the game goes on the Mobborn should have a growing network of confirmed evil players which should make it easier for them to identify the elims, but will also result in behaviour that might make them easier to identify.

However, something I am unsure about is whether the village should even be trying to actively hunt down Mobborn. Obviously, the village loses if the mobborn have a majority when all the elims go out, but to what degree can we prevent that from happening other than racing to deal with the elims as quickly as possible? The recruitment action happens before the execution and elim kill does, so unless there are a lot of soothers the amount of Mobborn will only shrink if both the execution and the elim kill hit a Mobborn, and in any other case the relative amount of Mobborn will grow. The way I see it, unless there's a way to almost guarnatee through soothing that the execution of a mobborn will wipe out the faction, the village should be focusing on taking out the elims as quickly as possible.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on that, but I might be missing something here that would make executing suspected Mobborn make more sense, so I'd appreciate it if anyone else could chime in.

@The Known NovelIf there is more than one Mobborn to start out with, do they start with a PM/some other information about who the other mobborn is/are? If they don't the above analysis might change as there is a bigger chance that there are two mobborn factions that don't know who the other one is, increasing the chances of recruitment actions getting wasted.

[Stick. she/her]

I don’t really see how hunting the mobborn  is different to hunting elims. Both those factions share something the village doesn’t - TMI re: faction members. And once we get an elim/mobborn flip, standard association analysis should lead us to the other team members. 

While reading the rules I’d assumed the Mobborn do not start with more than a single member. To get as many converts in as they can, they’d wanna prolong the game  if possible, SK-style probably. So, uh, we should aim for a village sweep. i.e. focus on finding elims. 

Alpha

Edit:

What’d be great is if the mobborn target an elim this cycle (and get attacked as a result). If there’s only one Mobborn to begin with, they are almost certainly an experimental coinshot - their survival will be reflected in the write up and we will be able to tell that that’s the result of a failed mobborn conversion if there’s also another death in the cycle (which has to be the elim kill since there are no vigilante roles in the game). The outed mobborn in such a case will probably want to hold their target’s identity hostage for a while (or maybe not idk) but we should be able to tell who they were likely to target by looking at players they village-read most genuinely during the previous cycle. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by _Stick_

[DeTess she/her]

22 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

What’d be great is if the mobborn target an elim this cycle (and get attacked as a result). If there’s only one Mobborn to begin with, they are almost certainly an experimental coinshot - their survival will be reflected in the write up and we will be able to tell that that’s the result of a failed mobborn conversion if there’s also another death in the cycle (which has to be the elim kill since there are no vigilante roles in the game). The outed mobborn in such a case will probably want to hold their target’s identity hostage for a while (or maybe not idk) but we should be able to tell who they were likely to target by looking at players they village-read most genuinely during the previous cycle. 

Doesn't a mobborn targetting an elim cause a redirect of the attack? So there would still only be one attack?

Though this could cause an interesting situation later in the game where a mobborn get's killed by an elim through this mechanic, and the other mobborn (provided it was communicated who the mobborn would convert) will know who is likely to be the elim that did it.

Edited April 18, 2023 by DeTess

[Stick. she/her]

16 minutes ago, DeTess said:

Doesn't a mobborn targetting an elim cause a redirect of the attack? So there would still only be one attack?

Though this could cause an interesting situation alter in the game where a mobborn get's killed by an elim, and the other mobborn (provided it was communicated who the mobborn would convert) will know who is likely to be the elim that did it.

Ah, it’s a redirect >:(

It’s hard to see the mobborn without an experimental coinshot especially in a game this small so I doubt they’ll want their non-protected teammates sending in their faction action. 
 

Edit:

If there are 2 mobborn then 2/2/5 means they can completely turn the tide in a single cycle assuming village exe, village NK, and successful conversion leading to 3/2/2, at which point they’ll probably have a very narrow pool of actual elim suspects in addition to being the majority faction. There’s a small chance this happens but the possibility makes that starting distro unlikely I think.  

Edited April 18, 2023 by _Stick_

[Amanuensis he/him]

7 hours ago, Archer said:

Aman

h0w r00d

Me personally, I’m going to ignore the Mobborn. Doesn’t seem useful to look for or discuss them, except maybe to help narrow PoE. Actually I’m down to be recruited now that I say that. Less players I need to analyze = hAppyman

Silho u evil m8?

ED1T:

oh and I’d love a PM with any PM makers (forgor which role that is, but assuming Tineye)

ED2T:

Whelp, I perused the rules and discovered we all can make a PM but it requires a turn before it opens so nvm

Edited April 18, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Shining Silhouette he/him]

Been a minute since I've played a game. Good to be back

These roles are wack and I love them

ED1T:

12 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Silho u evil m8?

nah han

speaking of palindromes

did you know that mobborn is a palindrome if you combine the "rn" into one letter?

 

Edit 2: 

@The Known Novel Tineyes can see Mobborn Convert PMs right

Edited April 18, 2023 by Shining Silhouette

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 minute ago, Shining Silhouette said:

Been a minute since I've played a game. Good to be back

These roles are wack and I love them

Dodging my question I see 

but yes I also love these roles for their wackness 

[Shining Silhouette he/him]

3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Dodging my question I see 

whoops

[Stick. she/her]

12 minutes ago, Shining Silhouette said:

Edit 2: 

@The Known Novel Tineyes can see Mobborn Convert PMs right

Nope. They'd be kinda OP otherwise huh