Quick Fix Game 67: Down the Rabbit-Hole

[Mat he/him]

That looks like a fine PoE to me. I’d probably pick Quinn first, but that is 100% activity/engagement based.

Also fwiw I’m decently sure we’d be fine in clearing all remaining Toves from being a Bandersnatch

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

So you're preferential of a potential Quintessential?

[Mat he/him]

Interesting thing: The vote wasn’t tied, so my Exp point does stand (but I also take it back for role reasons) but it’s notable because Ash should have been voting TKN. He wasn’t, because he was killed during C4, so his vote wasn’t counted— he was already dead

Also wait was Quinn the one cursed by time, I forget

[Stick. she/her]

Lmao the jabberwock really has Time issues 

ash being killed ‘in c4’ probably can be explained by ash himself being cursed by time

but I am not cursed by time, so… the jabberwock must be?

4 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Village Rath, I outgrabe Quinn C4 (basically whatever actions hit her would hit me) which did nothing and then (get this) I forgot to do anything yesterday. If I had remembered, I would have protected Ash from being rolescanned, which is my normal ability 

lol

i too am a village Rath and outgrabe Quinn C4 

which makes me wonder if Quin is cursed by time

and that someone protected Quin c4. Or protected me c4.

however on a quick skim of her posts I haven’t found a claim

4 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

That looks like a fine PoE to me. I’d probably pick Quinn first, but that is 100% activity/engagement based.

Also fwiw I’m decently sure we’d be fine in clearing all remaining Toves from being a Bandersnatch

Why isn’t drake in your PoE? 

BTW the jabberwock attempting to kill me means they were either around at EoD to have seen my wagon dissipate or put the order in early-cycle when the wagon did not exist. Leaning towards the former.  (Edit: dissipate is def the wrong word lol given that I was only 1 vote behind TKN. So I guess I’m actually leaning towards the latter then).

Crazy to think that if I hadn’t been protected, my vote would’ve disappeared and I would’ve died to the exe too LMAO and TKN would be alive. Smh. 

Amanuensis 

edit:

I don’t think drake’s the jabberwock based on his vote on me and him being present at EoD - the same argument can be applied to Mat

Edit2:

I wonder why the jabberwock only used a single kill this cycle when they attacked two people (wonko and TJ) in the previous one. I’m guessing they used up their action slots in other places? 

Edited September 6, 2023 by _Stick_

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

3 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

I wonder why the jabberwock only used a single kill this cycle when they attacked two people (wonko and TJ) in the previous one. I’m guessing they used up their action slots in other places? 

That, or the two kills was a Brillig thing.

Anyway, Amanuensis. Time’s up man: make a claim, or die.

Oh, and most of you know already, but I’m a JubJub Bird.

[Stick. she/her]

What we do know about the jabberwock is that they bought the TJ sus C4 and were also sold on the Stick sus C5 

I don’t remember if there was anybody other than me elim reading TJ on C4 so I’m guessing the jabberwock hasn’t been providing a ton of reads in public 

During C5 the players that publicly sussed  me are my voters + exp. I don’t think mat or drake are likely to be the jabberwock. Exp is never an elim, and I’m leaning against them being the jabberwock too. 

Would’ve been nice if Quin had provided reads last turn 

really does come down to Xino Aman Quin and maaybe archer 

[Mat he/him]

4 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

Why isn’t drake in your PoE? 

Well, because I didn’t think about it, but actually because I think Scars was inactive C4 yet the Jabberwock did stuff (same argument can be applied to Wit/Archer)

1 hour ago, Wonko the Sane said:

Oh, and most of you know already, but I’m a JubJub Bird.

Yes but what is a JubJub Bird

Wait so who do we know has been cursed by time

[Stick. she/her]

4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Well, because I didn’t think about it, but actually because I think Scars was inactive C4 yet the Jabberwock did stuff (same argument can be applied to Wit/Archer)

Yes but what is a JubJub Bird

Wait so who do we know has been cursed by time

That’s a good point about Scars. I wouldn’t apply it so readily to Archer though - wonko’s right that wit had been actively following the thread and lurking at various times lol 

[Experience he/him]

So...are we just assuming there were only two elims? 

[Stick. she/her]

16 minutes ago, Experience said:

So...are we just assuming there were only two elims? 

fifth confirmed that no one has failed their wincon yet - and the village wouldve already lost if there were only two elims. We can probably safely assume there's only one more left though, but we need to chop the jabberwock first today so that we dont auto lose, and aim for the last elim with the sword

[Experience he/him]

5 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

fifth confirmed that no one has failed their wincon yet - and the village wouldve already lost if there were only two elims. We can probably safely assume there's only one more left though, but we need to chop the jabberwock first today so that we dont auto lose, and aim for the last elim with the sword

But what if the OoA is lynch first then sword? Would we lose then?

[Stick. she/her]

Just now, Experience said:

But what if the OoA is lynch first then sword? Would we lose then?

oh

good point, though generally the exe should precede any attacks

@Fifth Scholar does the exe come first?

[JNV]

11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

@Fifth Scholar does the exe come first?

Technically theyre simultaneous but wincons are evaluated at end of cycle so if the Jabberwocky dies in the same turn as the last Bandersnatch it counts 

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Yes but what is a JubJub Bird

All right, I'll tell you a little; more than I probably should. I have a set of three action powers, one of which is to start three PMs, and one outrageously powerful passive power. I get two actions per turn, except in Brillig, when I got three.

Is that enough for you? It's certainly more than anyone else has revealed. Particularly @Amanuensis, who has deliberately dodged claiming even a name up to this point.

Edited September 6, 2023 by Wonko the Sane

[Experience he/him]

38 minutes ago, JNV said:

Technically theyre simultaneous but wincons are evaluated at end of cycle so if the Jabberwocky dies in the same turn as the last Bandersnatch it counts 

So there is only one more bandersnatch. 

[Stick. she/her]

Gottem. Good work team

[Mat he/him]

As if that was a question >>

Happy to pressure Amanuensis at the moment

@Archer wassup :D.

Edit: @Wonko the Sane yeah that's fine, thanks. I feel dumb for paranoiding on you so hard, there was a time when I was ranting to Stick in PMs about how I was so sure you were the Jabberwock-- I mean, I basically said the same directly to you, you remember >>

But no with that I'm preeetty sure you're just telling the truth :P. Question: Who of Quinn/xino/Aman passed your test, don't remember if you said (beyond Quinn with a light fail, iirc)

Edited September 6, 2023 by Matrim's Dice

[Archer he/him]

9 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

As if that was a question >>

Happy to pressure Amanuensis at the moment

@Archer wassup :D.

 

I was irrespoonedly dropped into this match, which feels a bit like an episode of Game Changer.

 Quinn  

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

Quick note for everyone,  because Stick proves protections exist: DO NOT use protection powers tonight, they can only hurt us. There is no outcome where the Village loses and a protect could have saved them, but there ARE outcomes where a protect could prevent a Village win.

12 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Edit: @Wonko the Sane yeah that's fine, thanks. I feel dumb for paranoiding on you so hard, there was a time when I was ranting to Stick in PMs about how I was so sure you were the Jabberwock-- I mean, I basically said the same directly to you, you remember >>

But no with that I'm preeetty sure you're just telling the truth :P. Question: Who of Quinn/xino/Aman passed your test, don't remember if you said (beyond Quinn with a light fail, iirc)

Don't worry about it, you have very good reasons not to trust me, including my unique role.

Quinn and Xino passed late, but did pass without significant prompting. Aman has straight up told me nothing but "maybe next cycle" all minigame. He also claimed a power that, after some investigation, I now know requires him to either be a second JubJub Bird (unlikely, because two copies of my passive would absolutely break the game) or yet another unique role (Toves, Raths, and Borogoves have all claimed other powers now). I am about 70% certain he's the Jabberwock.

[Stick. she/her]

If we’re preflipping Aman as the jabberwock then maybe we should talk about who the last elim should be. Help the sword holder out. 
<archer drake xino> 

could be any one of these people - I don’t think Quin is elim based on nothing but a gut read 

also who saved me 

[Archer he/him]

11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

I don’t think Quin is elim, based on nothing  

I'm the exact opposite, which puts us at a rapaplod of opinions

I'm trying to decide if Drake protecting TKN makes sense because losing 2/3 of the elim team is bad, or if they'd distance and run out the clock. The upshot of a TKN survival and Stick death is it makes hitting their wincon more viable. But they wouldn't know about the other elim death coming that round, so that changes the calculation. Eh. Drake Queen Quinn

Also my gm pm is full of information and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say and what I'm not. But I do want to not lose this tap in so if there's stuff I should be claiming, let me know

[Experience he/him]

21 minutes ago, Archer said:

Also my gm pm is full of information and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say and what I'm not. But I do want to not lose this tap in so if there's stuff I should be claiming, let me know

What's your role called?

 

Okay so let's see what sart and TKN did in the first two cycles.

Spoiler

C1

Sart

votes matrim

Good gut read on Exp

Not sure but feels that Ash is village

Unvotes mat, poke votes Aman

Vote TKN telling TKN to vote

Fake(?) annoyance at TKN for not voting

 

TKN

List of low active comment

Says no to vote

 

C2

 

Sart

Comment about time

Defends against TKN!jaber theory

Game thoughts, no reads

Votes stick

 

TKN

Says exact same thing as starts first post.

Claims to have made a pm with Aman

Claims same thing about pm

Okay so, interesting interaction between the two in C1, where sart tries to get TKN to vote and TKN says no. And he even votes TKN and doesn't retract it, probably for some distancing.

The other interesting thing is the fact that TKN claims to have made a PM with Aman. @Amanuensis, what do you have to say about this?

Do you guys think the elims were told who the jabberwhatever was? Or would that just be useless.

 

[Archer he/him]

9 minutes ago, Experience said:

What's your role called?

I'm a Borotove in need of a friend. PM me if you know you know

Quick question, why aren't we killing J!Aman? I'd take colluding with TKN as an indicator that Wonko's read is indirusly correct 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Archer

[Stick. she/her]

The last elim is probably just Drake? Kinda agreeing with archer there

21 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Stick is still my pick but I agree she has a point here, Wonko be a dear and be clear about this case to chase TKN in our PM?

 

16 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Not much time to rhyme but what about Ash? Did they pass your test?

They were the only player trying to save TKN

Though not sure if the last two cycles point towards e!Drake because it's accurate or because xino/wit were near-inactive and have no content to go through.

xino/archer are just blindspots to me right now. xino > archer rn just because i like the transparency archer's offering wrt gm pm info lol

edit:

1 minute ago, Archer said:

I'm a Borotove in need of a friend. PM me if you know you know

Quick question, why aren't we killing J!Aman? I'd take colluding with TKN as an indicator that Wonko's read is indirusly correct 

i think we are killing j!aman

Edited September 6, 2023 by _Stick_

[Mat he/him]

Jorotove is new. @Wonko the Sane, what was Aman's role called, the one he claimed?