Quick Fix Game 67: Down the Rabbit-Hole

[Experience he/him]

4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Jorotove is new. @Wonko the Sane, what was Aman's role called, the one he claimed?

Pretty sure he hasn't claimed still :P.

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

Jorotove is new. @Wonko the Sane, what was Aman's role called, the one he claimed?

What's a Jorotove? Do you mean Borotove? Because that's not new, others have claimed it, if not publicly, and it's been in the writeup.

He didn't claim a role; just kept pushing it off. But he DID claim a certain power, and despite speaking to nearly the entire playerbase, I'm not aware of any roles but mine that have that power.

[Mat he/him]

1 hour ago, Wonko the Sane said:

What's a Jorotove? Do you mean Borotove? Because that's not new, others have claimed it, if not publicly, and it's been in the writeup.

He didn't claim a role; just kept pushing it off. But he DID claim a certain power, and despite speaking to nearly the entire playerbase, I'm not aware of any roles but mine that have that power.

Okay yeah that was my post calculus brain sorry  

[Quintessential she/her]

I am so sorry I've been so inactive; I've been really busy catching up on some homework, and every time I try to form coherent thoughts about the game it doesn't... really work lol

I can at least claim, though; I'm a Borogove. (Not a "Borotove" like Archer, I'll get to that)

Also I will note that my original assumption at the beginning of the minigame was that all roles were also alignment indicative (between the weirdness of this game and how long it's been since I played forum mafia, I kind of forgot that that's not usually the case on here). The flips this cycle have reminded me, though, so at least one thing has gotten through the fog hovering around my mind.

I have... no reads. I mean if you put a gun to my head and told me to guess I'd say Wonko reads relatively village to me, and Mat doesn't intuitively read village to me but I'm suspicious of him in the way that I usually am when we're both village so I think I'm going with village on Mat too.

Other thoughts... I am almost positive that Archer is in fact a Borotove (which, as near as I can tell, is a combo of my Borogove role and the Tove role), because of this:

2 hours ago, Archer said:

I'm a Borotove in need of a friend. PM me if you know you know

I do in fact know, and I cannot think of a way that Archer would know unless he was actually a Borogove or a Borotove (even if he's elim, because in order for him to know anything about the Borogove half of his role without being one, one of his teammates would have to have known; so far we haven't seen a Bandersnatch Borogove flip, so that would mean there'd have to be 4 elims which I'm pretty sure is not the case). Given how inactive Wit was, I have a hard time believing anyone claimed to Wit/Archer and explained the role before Archer got switched in. And I don't know why anyone would have made up the combo name "Borotove" as a fake role, so I have to assume that either that's a mistype of my role or a combo of Tove and Borogove (and the latter is way cooler).

So in conclusion, I'm pretty sure Archer is a Borotove (and I already PM'd him because I don't need my action for anything else). Archer/Wonko, if I'm wrong about this feel free to lmk lol 

 

3 hours ago, Archer said:

 

3 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

I don’t think Quin is elim, based on nothing  

I'm the exact opposite, which puts us at a rapaplod of opinions

I would be curious to know what this means; from what I can tell that "exact opposite" bit could mean that he thinks I'm an elim based on a lot of things, that he doesn't think I'm elim based on a lot of things, or that he thinks I'm elim based on nothing. Clarity would be appreciated, especially since he did unvote me later in that same post lol

That being said, that post does give me a slight village read on him. I'm a bit worried because I could very easily see our last Bandersnatch being a Boro(g/t)ove (the thing about the Borogove role is that it's a passive effect not an action, so it's perfect for an elim team, especially one that's up against the kind of odds they have in this game). I also initially read his claim as mildly suspicious for some reason, but having gone back through the previous posts that lead up to it I think I've changed my mind.

As for the Jabberwock, I'm pretty sure I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already. Well, possibly one thing. But I'd have to reveal what Borogoves do in order to make that point and I'd at least like to consult with Archer first before I do that, just in case he thinks of some fatal flaw in that plan that I haven't seen.

In the meantime, Aman, it would be very nice to hear from you; also @Fifth Scholar can we get a VC?

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

18 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Path to victory today is exeing the Jabberwock and Vorpal Blading the last Bandersnatch, so no pressure whoever has that :P.

 

7 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

we need to chop the jabberwock first today so that we dont auto lose, and aim for the last elim with the sword

A strong hypothesis but wrong: the sword is bored and tired, only one use it inspired!

A proclivity to passivity is a risky activity. A blade is not a crutch, it can only aid you so much.

If no other card to play then barred is our way.

 

6 hours ago, Wonko the Sane said:

It's certainly more than anyone else has revealed.

No it is not, perish the thought. Matrim and I both did ply our full role, we weren't shy and didn't lie.

5 hours ago, Archer said:

I was irrespoonedly dropped into this match, which feels a bit like an episode of Game Changer.

Pinch hit, tell me about it

Welcome, swell chum! Try not to die

4 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

also who saved me 

A most pertinent question! Come out is my suggestion.

If someone else didn't save Stick, then technically it could be a trick. Not my first guess, if I assess, but it'd be a mess.

And there's no cause to clamp your jaws about it. So the more congestion, the more I question.

3 hours ago, Wonko the Sane said:

What's a Jorotove? Do you mean Borotove? Because that's not new, others have claimed it, if not publicly, and it's been in the writeup.

A Borotove is neither Borogrove nor a Tove, let alone a Jorotove!

 

EDIT: Wait wait a twist of fate... Was TJ time-cursed before the worst did befall him first?

Edited September 6, 2023 by DrakeMarshall

[Mat he/him]

If we really can’t use the sword, I think we’re fine, as long as we don’t hit an elim and do hit the Jabberwock. Are you indirectly claiming the shot on Sart, Drake? Or did I completely misinterpret that rhyme? xD

[Stick. she/her]

@ jabberwock you better snipe the last elim for us TY 

Edit:

If anybody wants to counter claim the sword, do it now lol 

if no one comes forward then drake is just village rip 

Edit2:

dunno if TJ was cursed by time, as far as I recall he never claimed to be 

Edited September 6, 2023 by _Stick_

[Archer he/him]

53 minutes ago, Quintessential said:

I am so sorry I've been so inactive; I've been really busy catching up on some homework, and every time I try to form coherent thoughts about the game it doesn't... really work lol

I can at least claim, though; I'm a Borogove. (Not a "Borotove" like Archer, I'll get to that)

Also I will note that my original assumption at the beginning of the minigame was that all roles were also alignment indicative (between the weirdness of this game and how long it's been since I played forum mafia, I kind of forgot that that's not usually the case on here). The flips this cycle have reminded me, though, so at least one thing has gotten through the fog hovering around my mind.

I have... no reads. I mean if you put a gun to my head and told me to guess I'd say Wonko reads relatively village to me, and Mat doesn't intuitively read village to me but I'm suspicious of him in the way that I usually am when we're both village so I think I'm going with village on Mat too.

Other thoughts... I am almost positive that Archer is in fact a Borotove (which, as near as I can tell, is a combo of my Borogove role and the Tove role), because of this:

I do in fact know, and I cannot think of a way that Archer would know unless he was actually a Borogove or a Borotove (even if he's elim, because in order for him to know anything about the Borogove half of his role without being one, one of his teammates would have to have known; so far we haven't seen a Bandersnatch Borogove flip, so that would mean there'd have to be 4 elims which I'm pretty sure is not the case). Given how inactive Wit was, I have a hard time believing anyone claimed to Wit/Archer and explained the role before Archer got switched in. And I don't know why anyone would have made up the combo name "Borotove" as a fake role, so I have to assume that either that's a mistype of my role or a combo of Tove and Borogove (and the latter is way cooler).

So in conclusion, I'm pretty sure Archer is a Borotove (and I already PM'd him because I don't need my action for anything else). Archer/Wonko, if I'm wrong about this feel free to lmk lol 

 

I would be curious to know what this means; from what I can tell that "exact opposite" bit could mean that he thinks I'm an elim based on a lot of things, that he doesn't think I'm elim based on a lot of things, or that he thinks I'm elim based on nothing. Clarity would be appreciated, especially since he did unvote me later in that same post lol

That being said, that post does give me a slight village read on him. I'm a bit worried because I could very easily see our last Bandersnatch being a Boro(g/t)ove (the thing about the Borogove role is that it's a passive effect not an action, so it's perfect for an elim team, especially one that's up against the kind of odds they have in this game). I also initially read his claim as mildly suspicious for some reason, but having gone back through the previous posts that lead up to it I think I've changed my mind.

As for the Jabberwock, I'm pretty sure I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already. Well, possibly one thing. But I'd have to reveal what Borogoves do in order to make that point and I'd at least like to consult with Archer first before I do that, just in case he thinks of some fatal flaw in that plan that I haven't seen.

In the meantime, Aman, it would be very nice to hear from you; also @Fifth Scholar can we get a VC?

I'm tempted to string you along, but I'll make it easy and say yes, that was a typo of Borogove. Positive view of Quinn for claiming it too because it'd be better for e!them to stay quiet about it and exploit its power with a late move. 

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he thinks I'm elim based on nothing. Clarity would be appreciated

You're playing a blackout rhyming game and you want clarity? :P.

It's the last one

20 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

 

Pinch hit, tell me about it

Welcome, swell chum! Try not to die

 

Given the dynamics of the situation are intyllus, I'd actually be okay with being on the chopping block. Not sure how tight the POE is, but I'll put it out there that we should cover as many bases as possible since we're unlikely to lose. Worst case right now is just not winning, if that makes sense. 

[Stick. she/her]

5 minutes ago, Archer said:

that was a typo of Borogove

W O W

[Quintessential she/her]

7 minutes ago, Archer said:

I'm tempted to string you along, but I'll make it easy and say yes, that was a typo of Borogove. Positive view of Quinn for claiming it too because it'd be better for e!them to stay quiet about it and exploit its power with a late move. 

Ah, cool okay. Wonko made the same typo in his post so I thought it could be a real thing lol

7 minutes ago, Archer said:

You're playing a blackout rhyming game and you want clarity? :P.

Fair point lol

Understood. 

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

If we really can’t use the sword, I think we’re fine, as long as we don’t hit an elim and do hit the Jabberwock. Are you indirectly claiming the shot on Sart, Drake? Or did I completely misinterpret that rhyme? xD

I attacked and snicker-snacked, cleaved the heart of Sart!

A sword is scary but can also parry, if he did not tarry then perhaps TJ's pick was saving Stick. It depends, my friends.

How do you divine that we are fine? Same as Archer, or a departure?

Just now, _Stick_ said:

@ jabberwock you better snipe the last elim for us TY 

This is my thought, but then the battle's fought by the Jabberwock alone, we cannot atone or see to our own. We must hope in the scope of their abilities. A dire salvation, such a situation. Perhaps there are other powers in this hour to scour the glowering Bandersnatch, I suppose, but who knows.

 

Amanuensis, is the consensus. Quintessential, once prudential, now tangential.

Vote Tally
Amanuensis (5): Matrim's Dice, Quintessential, Wonko the Sane, _Stick_, DrakeMarshall
DrakeMarshall (1): Archer

But for all we know it might be Xino...

I fear we're holding a hearing for peers who aren't here or anywhere near.

[Mat he/him]

13 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

How do you divine that we are fine? Same as Archer, or a departure?

I forgot the minigame ends today, sorry :P. I was all “We can just kill the last elim tomorrow!”

Maybe the Jabberwock does us a solid though, assuming we’re right :P.

[Experience he/him]

Could have sworn I voted already

Stick

Joking :P.

Aman

[Archer he/him]

Florple! I nearly forgot to get back on. Subterfuge be for not, @Quintessential, I left it too long to be able to coordinate the sneaky option.

As a role ability, whoever Quinn and I vote for will die. If they're also exed, it's redundant, so please ensure a different wagon has more votes than our two. 

Anyone object to us taking care of Xino? 

Drake Xino

[Amanuensis he/him]

Yo dudes and duddettes. No rhyming rn cause I'm too busy, so I'll just fill ya'll in:

Role is called Mome Rath, rather than just Rath. I used it to rolescan TKN C4 and it failed (Wonko was the only player to know I was scanning him) so I scanned Wonko C5 and he is indeed a JubJub Bird. Thought he might be evil but honestly idk at this juncture

Sadly I've been too busy with work to keep up with every post / commit any analysis. Do we lose if the Javawock is not exed today? If so, y'all might want to change your votes, though idk who it could actually be

[Experience he/him]

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Yo dudes and duddettes. No rhyming rn cause I'm too busy, so I'll just fill ya'll in:

Role is called Mome Rath, rather than just Rath. I used it to rolescan TKN C4 and it failed (Wonko was the only player to know I was scanning him) so I scanned Wonko C5 and he is indeed a JubJub Bird. Thought he might be evil but honestly idk at this juncture

Sadly I've been too busy with work to keep up with every post / commit any analysis. Do we lose if the Javawock is not exed today? If so, y'all might want to change your votes, though idk who it could actually be

*eyebrow raise*

[Archer he/him]

If you're a Mome Rath, I'm a Govotove. Simply pruglious. 

[Mat he/him]

Two kinds of raths would be weird, but it would be thematic in that mine prevents rolescans and Aman’s is a rolescan.

Actually— unless there’s another role that is a rolescan, I almost certainly trust Aman. Otherwise my role is completely pointless

Quinn

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

9 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Yo dudes and duddettes. No rhyming rn cause I'm too busy, so I'll just fill ya'll in:

Role is called Mome Rath, rather than just Rath. I used it to rolescan TKN C4 and it failed (Wonko was the only player to know I was scanning him) so I scanned Wonko C5 and he is indeed a JubJub Bird. Thought he might be evil but honestly idk at this juncture

Sadly I've been too busy with work to keep up with every post / commit any analysis. Do we lose if the Javawock is not exed today? If so, y'all might want to change your votes, though idk who it could actually be

Gaahhhh. The worst part is, I kind of want to believe you. It's consistent with your story up to this point, and I do now know that scan-blocking powers exist. REALLY wish you'd dropped this early enough to let us consider it, man.

Why did my scan on you last cycle fail? Who out there would be protecting you?

[Amanuensis he/him]

Just now, Wonko the Sane said:

Gaahhhh. The worst part is, I kind of want to believe you. It's consistent with your story up to this point, and I do now know that scan-blocking powers exist. REALLY wish you'd dropped this early enough to let us consider it, man.

Why did my scan on you last cycle fail? Who out there would be protecting you?

Sorry my Monday-Friday is rough for QFs

Your guess is as good as mine. That would need a Rath concealing me, right? Did anyone know you were scanning me?

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

Just now, Amanuensis said:

Sorry my Monday-Friday is rough for QFs

Your guess is as good as mine. That would need a Rath concealing me, right? Did anyone know you were scanning me?

No one knew I even had a scan until like 6 hours ago.

[Amanuensis he/him]

2 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said:

No one knew I even had a scan until like 6 hours ago.

My guess would be an e!Rath that figured me getting scanned would take me out of play for exlo and sought to disrupt that. No idea otherwise

Edited September 7, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

Actually, if you're telling the truth, who was shielding TKN? The Raths I know of are confirmed except for one -- Xino. And if Xino is Bandersnatch, then someone besides you OR Xino has to be Jabberwock. So who's your pick there? 

[Mat he/him]

Quinn

vote quinn :P.

quinn, shoot xino :P.

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 minute ago, Wonko the Sane said:

Actually, if you're telling the truth, who was shielding TKN? The Raths I know of are confirmed except for one -- Xino. And if Xino is Bandersnatch, then someone besides you OR Xino has to be Jabberwock. So who's your pick there? 

Jabberwock confirmed Cursed by Time, right? What's the shortlist?