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I think the Well of Ascension is unique because it's more than some ordinary perpendicularity. It's where Ruin's mind was imprisoned by Preservation's mind, and the Well was a key to that power. The Well was part of that prison. Medalminds are useless without Feruchemical ability, Medallions have some serious limitations and it appears you can't both store and tap in the same medallion - it's one way use only, and only Malwish know how to refill/empty them. Spren bonds can be stolen with Radiant powers by Hemalurgy: Yes. During Recreance there were 2000 Honorspren, that's where this number of tens of thousands came from. He did enter it, most of Elend was pulled into SR. Remember SR isn't some place, so the way you "enter" it is different than what you would expect.

It's statistically unlikely to become a Radiant. Roshar has probably tens or hundreds of millions of people living there, but only low tens of thousands can be Radiants at any moment. Statistically it's more likely to be born a Metalborn on Scadrial (15 mil population in the Basin while around 20k is Metalborn). Or you can be born on Nalthis and get a Breath as a present, then only your persuasion skills stop you from acquiring more Breaths and becoming an Awakener. If you want to have access to any invested art, be born on Nalthis, or just go there and buy Breaths. But in case of raw investiture competition, then yes, Roshar is probably the most invested world, with investiture being the most accessible, with invested arts giving you really powerful abilities. But Selish Elantrians can replicate basically any invested art, including Surgebinding, and can also access a lot of power. And there are ways to make working Aons far away from Elantris and we saw those in two books already (TLM and Tress). But even more raw power used to be on Scadrial. Just think of it, every thousand years someone Ascended and had so much power, that they could move a planet, shift continents, change genes of living creatures, turn people into monsters and make themselves into a god. Not even on Roshar you can manipulate that amount of investiture.

Intent is one thing, but if he could, he would see blue lines going to spikes. He didn't because he still was too weak to push on spikes. The spikes and a person are still too invested for a Lerasium Mistborn to push on them. The latter in my opinion. He could do this, Marasi did this a moment before, BoM ch 28:

If their strength of Allomancy is equal, then their skill and quality of their Allomancy would make the difference:

Yes, that's certainly possible.

You can simply quote the post by clicking the "quote" option at the bottom of a post. More tips: Could you provide a quote or a chapter? Shinovar has Highstorms, but because it's so far east, Highstorms have to pass through several mountain ranges, which weakens them severely by the time they get to Shinovar. Shins have Honorblades because they've picked them up during Aharietiam, after Heralds left them. Honor was still alive at that time. Honor is a Shard, Shards exist primarily in the Spiritual Realm, not in the Physical Realm. There is no body of Honor in the Physical Realm (that would be very noticeable and potentially dangerous). Shards investiture in the Physical Realm manifests as either gas (Stormlight), liquid (Perpendicularity) or solid (god metal) - we have gaseous form of Honor's investiture as a Stormlight, which existed pre-Splintering. Roshar doesn't have a stable Perpendicularity of Honor, so no liquid investiture, and solid investiture - Tanavastium - is in form of Honorblades and alloyed with Cultivation's god metal to create Shardblades. There is enough of Stormlight, spren and other forms of Honor’s investiture on Roshar to provide some kind of relief valve for Honor’s raw, splintered investiture not to go crazy and dangerous in the Physical Realm. There is no Honor’s body in the Physical Realm. It's all in the Spiritual Realm, attached mostly to the Stormfather, who is Honor's Cognitive Shadow. Honorblades are different from Honor-Shard - they were given to Heralds long before Honor was Splintered. Honor is Splintered, his pieces are separated in SR, and the biggest piece of Honor is merged with the Stormfather. Yup, there is a reason why Kaladin is called "Child of Tanavast". Correction, Tanavast is the name of the Shardholder of the Shard of Honor, the Vessel of Honor. Honor's real name is still Honor, but its Vessel's name was Tanavast. Overall, yes, it's very likely that Kaladin will become the new Vessel of the Shard of Honor, because of the reasons you've pointed out. Good job. Highspren would disagree: This is not because he swore the 5th Ideal, this is because he is a Herald, a Cognitive Shadow, who in some way are similar to Spren. But Nale bonded with a Highspren long after he became a Herald. Many other Radiants swore 5th Ideal after formation of the Knights Radiant and that didn't change them into Spren or something. Alright, this was wild. Who is this "parsnaby" (Parshman?) known as god? Odium? Odium is a Shard, he won't fight Dalinar directly, his champion will. We don't know who that is. And what do you mean by "kill the Stormfather"? Turn him into a deadeye? That might be reversible, as Maya and Adolin showed. Splinter him and destroy him completely? That's possible only if Odium were to be freed out of Honor's restrictions (which might happen, but if Odium were to be freed and he were to kill Stormfather, then he would Splinter the biggest piece of Honor into tiny pieces and any reformation of Honor would be almost impossible at that point - Kaladin wouldn't be able to Ascend to Honor). Shard of Honor could possibly reinvest other spren to the level of the Stormfather but that was a wild theory. Interesting but wild. Syl can exist without Kaladin just fine, she will find a new person to bond with. If Kaladin were to Ascend to Honor, Syl's bond with him would likely end without making her a deadeye. Not only Syl is the daughter of the Stormfather. He created 2 generations of Honorspren, one of which was turned into deadeye during Recreance.

Elend can't push spikes despite being Lerasium Mistborn, more powerful than even what 3 spikes can give you. I'm not sure about this one. You don't need to move to store speed in Steelmind, you can just sit. Pewter makes you run faster, yes, but that doesn't mean you can store more speed. Sitting doesn't make you store less speed than running so I think burning pewter might not give you more speed to store. But on the other hand A-pewter makes you generally faster and increases your reaction speed, so maybe. You can't control people who have less than 4 spikes. Kandra aren't humans, they behave differently under emotional Allomancy.

Yup, Coppermind is the best source for this. But short answer, we know only 2 Radiants that are on 4th Ideal - Kaladin and Jasnah. We don't know when Jasnah swore her Ideal, it might be even before the events of WoK as she began to bond Ivory around the time of Gavilar's assassination. We don't know what her ideals are. Many bonded Windrunners are on 3rd Ideal, some newer on the 2nd (there was one woman who swore her 3rd Ideal during the battle of Hearthstone). IIrc, there were about 300 Windrunners in RoW, but only 50 were bonded with spren. I would expect the similar distribution of Ideals among Edgedancers, who are the second most numerous order. Shallan is tricky, we don't know if "I killed my spren" counts as a Truth or not: Each order gets their Shardblade after swearing 3rd Ideal (that probably includes Lightweavers, as I believe that every time Shallan summoned her Shardblade in WoK/WoR, it was Testament, not Pattern), and they all get their Shardplate after 4th Ideal. Bondsmiths do not get Shardblades, but will get Shardplates. It also seems that only Skybreakers have their access to Surges limited - they can use the Surge of Gravitation only after swearing the 2nd Ideal, and the Surge of Division is open to them after the 3rd one. For comparison, Kaladin was using Reverse Lashing, a combination of the Surge of Gravitation and Adhesion, before he swore 2nd Ideal, and later Bridge 4 had free access to both of those Surges before each of them swore the 2nd Ideal. Dustbringers apparently too have their access to Surges limited: A timeline of future Ideal swearing is impossible to create, as that depends solely on individual and their readiness to swear the next Ideal - Kalaind was stuck on the 3rd Ideal for a year despite the fact that he knew the Words but couldn't say them. But we know that we can expect Szeth to swear the 4th Ideal of Crusade at the beginning of KoWT as he is ready and will be going to Shinovar with Kaladin in that book.

Yes, Yumi's story is quite late and Hoid tells it relatively shortly after it happened (as Nikaro is still alive and they still own this noodle shop). By the time Hoid tells his story, people in Cosmere know what Awakening is, they all seen or spoke to an Awaken computer - this kind of technology was seen only both in SotD and Tress, with their talking ships and advanced Awakened circuits, so Yumi is place close to those books, far in the future of Cosmere in Era 4. WoB:

Do we know this? How many interactions between silver and Stormlight have we seen on pages? What about surges? We know silver has a potential to kill a spren: Silver might work just on invested entities, Aethers are invested entities, spren too, CS as well, not on investiture in general. But we know too little now to know for sure.

It's the time that passes for you (which is the same as how much time you perceive to have passed). In a bendalloy bubble you can store more, in a cadmium one less relative to the outside world. Pulser no, Slider yes. If you are richy rich and can allow yourself to spend weeks worth of bendalloy to store some attributes while hours pass for others. Bendalloy is one of the most expensive metals to buy and

If we assume the rules of Hemalurgy are as established in TLM Ars Arcanum, and compounding is impossible, then F-steel, F-pewter and F-gold - I'm faster, stronger, can throw non-metal projectile at flying Allomancers much much faster than they can shoot their coins, and I can heal from most wounds I accidentally get. With F-steel I can simply avoid most injuries in the first place, so I could safely exchange it for something else - F-zinc (it's always so good, it would be very useful for calculating precise trajectories of my stone throws, so I can always smash your head with a stone, no matter where you are) or A-pewter to get even stronger and faster and have my strength stores non-muscle based. Your F-iron is useless when I can simply explode your head with a single, super-strong and super-fast punch, faster than you can react to me and start tapping.

Yes, yes, I was focusing on the "stronger" part only. We don't really have any direct comparison as Wax didn't use the same powers as Metalborns powered by Dor in TLM. She did, she pushed on trace amounts of metal inside rocks:

The air moves in and out of the bubble just like anything else is moving. With the bendalloy bubble this should work to some degree, but you would probably need to spend a lot of time to heat up the air in the bubble to that temperature. And your clothes might self-ignite. That's not really combat effective, but for emergency situations, like you need to save your companions from freezing, this might be quite handy.

Duralumin+Surgebinding would work. I don't think we have any confirmation that you can have such control when you're fueled by Dor. It's not like every Dor-powered Allomancy uses all of Dor at once. Yes, and compared to what metals can give you, Mists are super-fuel, that's how Brandon called them and that's what I was referring to. Or Vin had access to much more investiture, which grew overtime, than what Metalborns at the end of TLM had, which made her Allomancy ever stronger than what Dor can provide. It might be just a mix of those two factors - Ascending and lots of investiture - that made her Allomancy so strong. Yes, but the WoB specifically said "a Mistborn wielding the full power of the Well of Ascension" - if you are not a Mistborn, you can't use Allomancy even in the Well (but you can make yourself an Allomancer with that power and then use that power for Allomancy). Yes, I forgot to point out she was getting stronger during that time. It might be because she had more and more investiture in her, her Allomancy got proportionally stronger, as the quote stated "reserves were getting stronger and vaster" - stronger, not larger, not greater but stronger. I don't think we will settle this debate as there are no concrete statements proving that Vin was so strong either because she was Ascending or because she was consuming more and more Mists and using them as fuel. It's best to meet in the middle and agree that both of those things together caused her Allomancy to be that strong. Modern concrete structures - Wax with the Bands sent rocks flying, with barely any metal in them (both the Bands and the Dor fueled Allomancy were compared to the power of TLR's Allomancy), why not concrete with steel reinforcement in them (if you take Vin then she literally exploded stones)? More sturdier structures might be destroyed by deforming or breaking weight bearing columns which might cause a total collapse. There are many steel structures with steel skeletons and those would be very vulnerable to those kinds of Steelpushes.

Every Spirit and device you saw before Yumi went to confront the Father Machine was fake. The only real Spirit was the one who spoke to her at the end of chapter 6, she attracted it with her incredible art that day. Possibly the one in chapter 31, who told Yumi and Nikaro to destroy the machine, was also real. Yumi ch 39:

Vin is stronger than the average Allomancer and the Allomantic power matters alongside weight when it comes to Steelpushes. HoA ch 3: HoA Epilogue Epigraph: We don't know precisely what happened at that sparring match, as we don't have Kel's PoV and we don't know if he was burning or flaring steel. After the sparring Kel was surprised how strong Vin was and that she matched him with Steelpush, TFE ch 9: At the moment of Ascension Vin would be orders of magnitude stronger than any Allomancer ever, incomparable to anyone with all of the power of the Mists flowing into her. So this is a theoretical maximum of how strong a Steelpush can be. Theoretical, as practically nobody can replicate this. Just a moment after the palace destruction she lurched a massive, building sized metal spire towards herself, like it was nothing. Her power was that enormously strong that instead of flying towards the spire, the spire flew to her despite the mass difference, HoA ch 73: This is not about Dor Steelpush, this is about Dor Steelpush with duralumin - this would be much stronger then usual Duralumin Steelpush. Disagree. She was Ascending, yes, but she wasn't a Shard yet. Mists are a super-charged fuel for Allomancy, working as metals - at that point she couldn't do anything more with them even if she wanted to. She was getting filled to the brim with Mists and she used that to fuel her Allomancy. HoA ch 73: Even Brandon talks about using the power of the Well just to fuel Allomancy if you are a Mistborn: True. She did fly immediately up: You're looking at the practical maximum, I'm searching for a theoretical one as that's what I often do. In practical applications the damage wouldn't be as big as what Vin did - there is no doubt about it. I will refraze my original statement from "easily destroy massive buildings", as that was a bit overboard and misleading, to "some buildings" as a Mistborn, with access to dozens of jars of Dor would be able to create powerful duralumin enhanced Steelpush to destroy many metal based structures, especially if that push is focused on created weak points in a structure, which would cause a further collapse.

Yes, Atium is Atium, Ruin's investiture is still Ruin's investiture. Harmony is made out of both Ruin and Preservation's investiture, separate yet combined, but not merged into one. Sazed holds both Shards, and that's why Harmonium is manifested as a mixture of both investitures. HoA ch 82: The nature of Harmony is to balance Ruin and Preservation within him. Ruin's investiture can't be turned into Preservation's investiture. You can't make Harmonium out of pure Ruin's investiture. Even Mists appear now either as either darker Ruin's Mists or lighter Preservation's Mists (it was also mentioned in the books somewhere): That's not true, Ruin is still there, held by Sazed together with Preservation. The power of those Shards are separate. SoS ch 7: Because Ruin was Splintered a bit by Preservation, who stole that investiture from him and locked it in the cycle. Lerasium leaked into PR as well, but on a much, much smaller scale. It's the nature of Shards and their investiture, that's why there were Lerasium beads in the first place. Investiture from Lerasium once used was locked in spirit webs of Mistborns and passed down generations, increasing Allomantic potential, and Connection to Preservation, of every Scadrian in the north. Thanks, but you don't need to explain this to me, I may be a foreigner but I sometimes get the basics right. Read or look at the book again - the entire TLM descriptions are written in past tenses - in the reported speech Present Perfect is turned into Past Perfect. So yes, Harmony is in imbalance and Ruin has always been stronger than Preservation. Please avoid double posting, it's against the rules. You can edit your post and add a quote you want to reply to to your previous post:

I didn't want to suggest otherwise, but this is still Allomancy, but fueled with the power of all Mists. This is the maximum but only achievable in those special circumstances. Normal Mistborn won't be able to do that, but still will be able to do a lot of damage - we saw Wax ruining the roof and construction on top of the tower in TLM with duralumin Steelpush, with a proper fuel, like pure Dor or crap ton of metal, a Mistborn would be able to fully destroy some buildings - not all, not Kredik Shaw like Vin. I didn't want to suggest that it would match Vin. It was because her Steelpush was so powerful that mass didn't matter anymore. In TFE Vin could compete and match with Kelsier's Steelpush, despite Kelsier being twice as heavy as her - that was because her Allomancy was stronger than his. In HoA her power was so incomparably enormous, that it acted like she had the same mass as Kredik Shaw, and thus she wasn't flung into space. Mass and power are both factors when it comes to Steelpushes, and one can compensate for the lack of the other. We have not seen what pure Dor Steelpush can do, especially with duralumin. Emotional Allomancy fueled by Dor acts like duralumin enhanced Allomancy, A-cadmium produces bubbles with enormous time dilation, but we haven't seen what pure Dor Steelpush looks like.

That’s not impossible, that should be possible, but you can't expect investiture of all 16 Shards (not Shards themself), in the amount big enough to invest the entire planet (Roshar is invested mainly by Honor, Cultivation and Odium right now), to spontaneously and autonomously combine together just like that to recreate Adonalsium's Highstorms and his investiture. That isn’t possible. You also can't expect a reunion of all 16 Shards in the near future. Also we don't know if Adonalsium can be brought back - that is a separate question from if all Shards can be united back together. We don’t know if merging all 16 Shards will recreate Adonalsium or something different will be made. We don't even know if Adonalsium was a Vessel, had a Vessel or was a sentient investiture without any Vessel.

But now it's of Honor, the nature of it is different, changed. Honor's investiture can't become full Adonalsium's investiture as that would require either Adonalsium to be back or all 16 Shardic investiture to combine - both options are impossible. Highstorms won't just go back to how they used to be before the Shattering.

Adonalsium created Roshar and the entire system. No, it's not the same. After the Shattering there is no more Adonalsium, and all of his investiture got assigned to every Shard separately. There is no more full and "pure" investiture of Adonalsium, and there is no way to naturally get that. There is no Adonalsium to provide investiture for Highstorms, only Honor, and this is done now through the Stormfather.

Unlikely. Back then Highstorms were of Adonalsium - he is gone now. Now they are fully of Honor, permeated by his investiture and tied to him and Stormfather directly. There is no going back now. If without Stormfather Highstorms won't stop blowing, then you would need hundreds, if not thousands of years for the nature of Highstorms to evolve, adapt and change in some positive way.

They've evolved, Honor changed them - check out the WoB I've posted earlier. They are no longer like they were pre-Shattering. Now the Stormfather is essential to Highstorms.