StrikerEZ

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

@StrikerEZ, we get to know if the conversion spike is in play, yeah?

Yes! Sorry, brain is really frazzled. Here's the announcement, which will also be put in the main post:

The Conversion Spike is in the game!

It was the wee hours of the morning when the first resident of Creston awoke. Drestien, the mayor of Creston, was almost always the first to wake up every day. He prided himself in this fact, boasting about it to everyone who would listen whenever he had the chance.

He did not often consider the fact that even his wife, Galliandre, might not always appreciate his boasts. He'd been especially boastful as of late too.

But alas, Drestien had to take pride in some aspects of his mundane life. Once he was awake and ready for the day, he would take his morning walk, surveying the state of his town. Every day he made sure all of the houses were in the best possible condition, that the roads were clean, and that the ash was...well, at acceptable levels for dawn. By then, the ash-sweeping skaa were just beginning to wake up, so he could monitor their efforts and make sure they truly were working hard enough. He did not take care of them for the Lord Ruler himself for nothing!

Every now and then, and on this day as well, Drestien would run into his rival nobleman. Lord Feden Elariel. The biggest thorn in Drestien's side he had ever known. Feden consistently tried to one-up Drestien's ability to wake up early. Would this finally be the day that Drestien was bested?

Fortunately, it appeared not. Drestien happened to walk by Feden's manor as Feden made his way outside for the morning. With the rising sun behind him, Drestien gave Feden a bow and a grin.

"It appears I've won again, Feden!"

Feden groaned, following Drestien as he kept walking.

"Do we have to do this every day, Drestien?"

While Feden was Drestien's assistant mayor, they were still bitter rivals. Feden secretly harbored an intense distrust of Drestien for reasons he had never quite been able to discern.

"Oh, you mean this challenge to see who is truly the best at seeing the glory of The Lord Ruler's might, getting to see him raise the sun in the skies and dispel the mists once again each day? Of course we have to. I have to keep you on your toes, old friend!"

"You can cut with the act," Feden said. "There's hardly anyone around. And it's...creepy, knowing what you really are."

"I'm not sure whatever you could mean, Feden," Drestien said. "I am simply just enjoying life, the early morning, and your presence. Well, maybe not that last one, but I am definitely enjoying the great wonders of life, given to us by the Lord Ruler himself!"

"You sure do seem cheerful all the time. Especially now that you're mayor. I still don't even understand how that happened. I brought you here to be an easy target to run against. Not to end up subordinate to you."

"How dare you accuse me of plotting to overthrow the longstanding tradition of electing a mayor of Creston! Why, that would be high treason, if anyone were to believe your foolish claims!"

Feden just rolled his eyes and turned to look forward again. And then stopped in his tracks.

"What's wrong, Feden? Did you stub your toe? Suddenly have an epiphany and realize that you need to change your grumpy way of life? Was it-oh."

The corpse hanging from the tree at the town center would probably be a much better explanation.

It did not help that the words "Ruin has come" were inscribed in bloody marks on the poor skaa woman's chest.

Those words. They sent chills down Drestien's spine. For more reasons than he could count.

~

It was a sorry lot that drug their way into Varloux's inn later that night. People died now and then. It was the way of life. Usually, people came in and drank away their sorrows before partying the rest of the night. It's usually what the recently deceased would have wanted anyway. At least that's what Varloux assumed. Not like the dead could make their mind known.

It was not often, however, that someone wound up murdered in Creston. The last time Varloux had heard of something like that was when Hanri the Horrible had snuck his way into town and murdered a several skaa women before getting caught. The Lord Ruler's own forces had come through the town in search of Hanri. Varloux had just been a boy then, but he knew that Hanri had been discreet with his murders. It's how he had managed to get so many of them before he was caught.

But to kill someone and leave their poor body out for everyone to see? That was just wrong.

Trennis, the now-widower of Mern, slunk his way into Varloux's inn. Everyone gave him a wide berth as he came up to the bar. Even Old Ged knew to leave him alone.

"I'm tired of condolences," Trennis said, slapping several handfuls of coins on the bar. "Give me whatever this can buy."

Trennis walked off to sit at a table by himself before Varloux could get some clarification on what to give him.

Well. Varloux could not blame a man for wanting to drink his sorrows away. He turned to one of his barmaids, handing her Trennis's coins. "Load that poor fool up."

Varloux waited, watching the crowd. Besides Trennis, most of them were not buying that much alcohol tonight. He started making his way through the tables, offering refills and different kinds of drinks. Most people were turning him away. It seemed they wanted to just talk and talk and talk about Mern and the ominous message left by her killer. The message was different every time Varloux heard it, but he got the gist.

Ruin had come?

Varloux's heart was hammering. Could that fool of a terriswoman actually have lured a murderous god and its slaves to his town? He nearly fainted at the idea. Surely that couldn't really be the case. Right?

MR62: In The Shadow of Ash has begun! GM PMs should be on their way over the next 10-15 minutes. If you don't receive one by then, please let me know!

There will be a removal during this Cycle. Tied votes will result in a random player within the tie being removed. There is no vote minimum, though no one is removed if no one votes. There is also an inactivity filter: if you a player does not vote for 2 consecutive Cycles, they will be removed. In addition, PMs are open for this Cycle. PMs may only be one-on-one, no group PMs. All PMs must include myself and the IM, @Devotary of Spontaneity. As a last reminder, feel free to contact her if you have any moderation concerns!

Player List:

The Conversion Spike is in the game!

This Cycle will end at 10 pm CST, on Wednesday, February 22nd.

And signups are closed! I'll get the thread and PMs out as soon as I can!

There's only about 4 minutes left! Make your last signups (or un-signups) now or forever hold your peas!

Just now, Ashbringer said:

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Funnily enough, I think most of the signups for this game actually happened in the first day or so. There was a bit of a drought before the last couple days.

1 minute ago, Kasimir said:

No. I'm referring to the fact Aman and myself also made that call. Mat was just the last and most recent one, hence my using '2.5 hours' as a cutoff.

Ohhhhh that makes a lot more sense.

Carry on, then.

Just now, Kasimir said:

Literally everyone at the start:

"No we're staying out."

By 2.5 hours:

"Fine, we're in, low effort though."

By everyone, do you mean Mat? Most people made their decision before today.

There's about 2.5 hours left for signups, so here's your last call to sign up!

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Because in that scenario, I'm evil too  And if you don't think JNV is evil without me being evil, but think that e!me exists in a v!JNV world, then I should be the preference over JNV. Personally, from my entirely un-baised perspective (which I joke, but it's true, this is me looking in it from your PoV) I think there are worlds with e/v me and JNV.

I think I'm finally understanding this. I have to rethink things.

4 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

That is irrelevant, because the only e!JNV situation also has e!Mat

I don't understand why that makes my point irrelevant?

1 hour ago, Amanuensis said:

4. I also did the math for that and believe it’s near impossible with the 1.5x bunny mask, max activity, elim kill earnings and consistent execution revenue. That said, I welcome anyone to try 

Let's talk about this math. Let's assume there's one elim who reaches max rupees by doing the bunny mask stuff. That means they'd earn 130 rupees before D4-1. Now let's assume everyone they kill also gets max rupees, the elim doesn't exe anyone, none of their victims die before being killed, and that no one they kill buys items. Also gonna assume rupees are distributed to players last.

Victims:

• D1-1: 0 rupees earned
• D1-2: 2-3 rupees earned (1/4 of 10)
• D1-3: 6-7 rupees earned (1/4 of 25)
• D2-1: 10 rupees earned (1/4 of 40)
• D2-2: 13-14 rupees earned (1/4 of 55)
• D2-3: 17-18 rupees earned (1/4 of 70)
• D3-1: 21-22 rupees earned (1/4 of 85)
• D3-2: 25 rupees earned (1/4 of 100)
• D3-3: 28-29 rupees earned (1/4 of 115)

(Ranges given because I am unsure if you would round up or down)

Anyway, the total number of rupees a player could earn (assuming everything I said earlier is true) through killing is 122. That plus the 130 from engagement is plenty to get the immediate win. Granted, we can't assume that all of those stipulations I made to make this math happen will occur. Let's say an elim only makes half of that from killing. That's 61 rupees, which brings us to a total of 191. Now, if they exe people as well, there's a chance for them to make that extra 9 rupees at some point.

The point I'm trying to get at is that it is much more likely than you might think for players to try and find a way to game up to that 200 rupees.

Just now, Araris Valerian said:

This should really read 4 votes on me

Why's that? Oh, is that what your role does? Adds a vote to you? I always forget what yours does.

9 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

If you think that JNV being an elim guarantees Mat being an elim, then Mat is a better vote option.

According to you, these are the possible situations:

e!JNV e!Mat

v!JNV v!Mat

v!JNV e!Mat

Notice how there are more occurences of e!Mat than e!JNV

Yeah if you look at just the possible situations I'm espousing, there are more occurrences of e!Mat. But I lend much more credence to the one e!JNV situation (that you have listed) than I do to the two v!JNV situations.

Also, here's a VC:

JNV (3): StrikerEZ, Araris Valerian, The Wandering Wizard
Araris Valerian (3): DrakeMarshall, JNV, Matrim's Dice

This was done the old fashioned way, so please let me know if I've missed someone's vote.

5 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

If you believe the implication flows that way, which I think is contentious honestly, but if you do, then you really should vote Matrim and not JNV.

If e!JNV implies e!Mat, then that means there are no worlds where Mat is village where JNV is not also village, therefore according to your assumptions Mat is strictly eviller than JNV

however, I do think that in the worlds where Mat isn’t a confirmed villager it would be the other way around, with e!Mat implying e!JNV. And while Mat totally could be a confirmed villager as pointed out by yours truly a few nights ago I’m not really willing to assume it to be the case either

I don’t even have a response to this because I legitimately cannot comprehend the logic here. I don’t think knowing Mat is an elim guarantees JNV is one, not with Confirmed Villager out there. I do think that JNV being an elim guarantees Mat being an elim. So I think JNV is the much better exe option.

1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Actual math :P.

To be fair, has anyone ever said it’s truly random? Or has that just been an assumption?

Hmm. I can see the points for going for Mat first. But I don’t think e!Mat = e!JNV, because JNV could be village and scanned an e!Confirmed Villager!Mat. I do think e!JNV almost certainly means e!Mat though. So I think JNV is the better vote here.

1 hour ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

ALRIGHT STOP THAT ARARIS TRAIN RIGHT NOW!

BECAUSE THE HOLY GMs, PRAISE BE TO THEIR NAMES :P, HAVE TOLD ME THAT HE IS VILLAGE!

Or we'll I scanned him as an SE player so Mat/JNV is my PoE for now. I think we still outnumber but if there are two elims left or dead elims decide to use their votes, we will need you dead players.

Mat

Why Mat over JNV?

19 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

4. When you include an item like the Fierce Deity Mask and set a high bar but not an impossible one, be aware that players will figure out a way to obtain it

4a. Do not underestimate the ability to gain a fraction of the money from people you vote for or kill.

Of course you of all people would bring this up.  

So…JNV/Araris sleeper elims?

I already didn’t trust JNV and trust Bip, so I don’t like that claim. Especially with the Sart claim that basically had to be fake. I’m voting JNV. 

27 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Well, yes, but should I?

46 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

That’s a great question. Unfortunately I cannot provide the answer for you!

If you spectate, you might get to see all the distribution secrets beforehand. 

48 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

C’mon, you’re gonna make me play too, aren’t you. Subconsciously  

You know you want to 

38 minutes ago, Biplet said:

At this point I'm not sure what to do with my trollscan, so I'm gonna open it to y'all to see what we want to do with it regarding the PM spider stuff.

I think you should probably use it on JNV?

11 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

EDIT: Also this is largely unrelated to anything, but I'm surprised more dead players aren't using their votes, at least symbolically.

If I was dead I would still vote at the beginning of every single cycle but then I would retract before EoD with like a 75% chance.

Just to keep the votes flowing, ya know? Can still apply pressure that way.

I just worry about missing rollover and forgetting to move my vote. Because I have missed several of the last few rollovers. However, I will say that I think we should go for JNV today.

3 hours ago, |TJ| said:

Sign me up as Jandro (pronounced like Alejandro) (sidenote: I've always pronounced Allomancer Jak as Yak :P)

That Jak pronunciation is just cursed.