Long Game 73: The Forgotten Coup

[Mat he/him]

Oh uh

Dont want to sound too morbid or anything

But killing Archer now does a couple things 

1. Makes the later possibility of a conversion nonexistent 
2. Doesn’t add to the strength of the chalklings

So I honestly dont know if I want to unvote cause I don’t think I want Illwei dead and don’t think another last minute CW is a good idea

Edited February 2, 2021 by Matrim's Dice

[Illwei]

Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

So I honestly dont know if I want to unvote cause I don’t think I want Illwei dead and don’t think another last minute CW is a good idea

This is such a strong turn from you thinking I was an Elim earlier, Mat,

But also like, he's right i guess. Didn't think about that. Archer isn't a rithmatist and it doesn't give any info basically, that's the thing. It's either a no-info kill or +1 to the strength. 

I do have no clue what my flip will tell yall, because those on me are on me because they think i'm an Elim and an Elim with someone else. so. Yeah. you're gonna be dissappointed about that, so arguably my flip gives little info as well. of course I'm saying this as someone who has TMI on my alignment lmao

[Random Bystander she/her]

2 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

@Matrim's Dice @Random Bystander @Kasimir @TJ Shade @Araris Valerian @STINK so given that there are less than three hours until rollover and the top exe target is, as it turns out, the confirmed village role, would you all consider moving your votes? I have no idea whether we'll hit an elim if we exe someone else but we certainly won't if we exe Archer, so... yeah. 

Also Illwei, because I'm basically postive that Archer's vil at this point and would rather he not die : P

What the heck did I miss?!?! Also, okay..... Archer. And then my second gut vote was Illwei. (I'm sorry)

[Illwei]

Okay I'm done defending myself.

I'm going to spend the last bit going back through trying to sort out my reads because they'll probably be terrible but idk

trying not to close my computer and ignore everything out of spite :P.

[Ashbringer he/him]

*Wonders about the irony of possibly creating a Mat counter-exe*

[Mat he/him]

14 minutes ago, Illwei said:

This is such a strong turn from you thinking I was an Elim earlier, Mat,

Yeahhhhh idk I go where my gut goes I guess

14 minutes ago, Random Bystander said:

What the heck did I miss?!?! Also, okay..... Archer. And then my second gut vote was Illwei. (I'm sorry)

Maybe catching up on what you missed would be good  

7 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

*Wonders about the irony of possibly creating a Mat counter-exe*

I probably deserve it. Still don’t think I should have survived over Dannex, and my vil flip arguably would say stuff about others.

Hey everyone, I’d be down for killing Connie :P.

[Quintessential she/her]

25 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Oh uh

Dont want to sound too morbid or anything

But killing Archer now does a couple things 

1. Makes the later possibility of a conversion nonexistent 
2. Doesn’t add to the strength of the chalklings

So I honestly dont know if I want to unvote cause I don’t think I want Illwei dead and don’t think another last minute CW is a good idea

Wait, does the non-Rithmatist not count for the Strength of the Hoard? Either way, I'm keeping my vote off of Archer. After all, if we keep him alive we can exe him later after there's been a Shadowblaze in play and it seems likely that he might have converted. Once he does convert, exeing him weakens the Hoard.

[Condensation she/her]

I'd be down for not killing Connie :P.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

17 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

*Wonders about the irony of possibly creating a Mat counter-exe*

I mean I’d be down.

Also would be down for setting up a tie with Illwei and Mat and letting the Gods of Luck and Chance/the elims decide who to shrek. Either way we learn something.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Archer, even if he's a safe target. He's village (assuming we can confirm the claim), so we don't kill him. That's that. My next choice is Matrim.

[Random Bystander she/her]

9 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Maybe catching up on what you missed would be good  

Just did!

1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said:

Wait, does the non-Rithmatist not count for the Strength of the Hoard? Either way, I'm keeping my vote off of Archer. After all, if we keep him alive we can exe him later after there's been a Shadowblaze in play and it seems likely that he might have converted. Once he does convert, exeing him weakens the Hoard.

Good point.

1 minute ago, Condensation said:

I'd be down for not killing Connie :P.

Makes sense.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

@Sart If the non-Rithmatist is shrekked, does the strength of the chalklings horde go up, down, or stay the same? Same for it we shrek the Thief.

[Quintessential she/her]

2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Archer, even if he's a safe target. He's village (assuming we can confirm the claim), so we don't kill him. That's that. My next choice is Matrim.

I... hhhhh okay y'know what I have no read on Illwei and am only voting her because it doesn't seem strategically sound to knowingly exe a villager--not to mention it's a bit unfair to Archer imo--so Illwei Matrim I've been having an internal debate about him and I think I've decided that a few village-y posts at the end of a cycle shouldn't dictate my entire read of him, especially since I haven't seen anything super villagey from him since.

[Illwei]

I'd be down for killing Ventyl. Connie's said some hedgey things which makes me think she's trying to hide something, but like actually wondering if it's actually the thief. Something she said earlier. Her weird flip off of Archer was weird but also her initial suspicion wasn't that hard and it doesn't really mean anything and it's hard to concentrate when Straw is trying to narrate an audiobook or whatnot while I'm writing this and replacing every other word with "Redacted" smh

I still don't like Ventyl's latch onto Archer, but I still stand by that if Vently/Archer E/V, then it makes more sense to be one of [Striker, Ash]/Ventyl to be e/e. because there's little reason for him to not latch onto one of them, and it's not like someone else was in the running when he hopped onto me. Archer had two votes from Mat and RB iirc but that's not really something big. Other than that- and something that's annoyed me- there haven't been any other votes. I can't use the argument that "there was no resistance to me" because somehow Archer got ahead of me, and yall don't like that argument anyways, but yeah- - other than that there hasn't been any other things. so it doesn't make much sense for elim!Ventyl to hop onto that with that little of reasoning.

Ventyl

Honestly I think i'd be down with killing on of [Lotus, RB, Reading, Alv, Connie, Burnt, Gears] today. Basically the least of my village reads. Maybe less on RB and Reading.

 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Illwei (5): Ashbringer, Striker, Archer, Ventyl, Connie, 

Archer (5): Matrim, Random Bystander, Kas, TJ, STINK, 

Flyingbooks (1): Mist

Ventyl (1): Illwei

Matrim (2): Araris, Quinn

Sorry for the formatting, but this should be right. If someone voting on Archer ( @Random Bystander @Kasimir @TJ Shade @STINK ) wants to move to Mat with me, I’d be down to make a tie between Mat, Illwei, assuming one of you also just took a vote off of Archer.

[STINK he/him]

do they got valuables

[Mat he/him]

:/

Illwei

[Illwei]

MAT NO WE CAN FIND ANOTHER TARGET TOGETHER

we have two hours lets go go go go go

[Quintessential she/her]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

I’d be down to make a tie between Mat, Illwei, assuming one of you also just took a vote off of Archer.

Normally I'd argue against this 'cause ties but tbh at this point so long as it's intentional I guess it's fine? :P. 

[+Lotus she/her]

I love ties.

But that may be because Alvron's chaos has infected me and is slowly eating me from the inside out

[Illwei]

2 minutes ago, Lotus said:

But that may be because Alvron's chaos has infected me and is slowly eating me from the inside out

Elim slip

P.S.

Sorry, will clarify:

Where the heck would two of my top Elim reads be talking together, hm?

Edited February 3, 2021 by Illwei

[Kasimir he/him]

[OOC: Do we, at this point, have a claim confirmation? If there is a real non-Rithmatist, they also have an incentive not to claim publicly due to making themselves a target. 

@Devotary of Spontaneity

Mildly surprised, Araris. I remember Macen the Surgeon.] 

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

1 hour ago, Ashbringer said:

(Don't tell us the specialization, just if Archer gave you one.)

I can confirm that I received a specialisation and was then PMd by Archer saying he was the one who'd given it to me.

Killing Archer doesn't increase chalkling strength but also kills a villager with no chance of decreasing horde strength. The Shadowblaze can be tracked if it's taken during the day which would make it more difficult for the elims to get it to Archer without anyone noticing, with the downside that if a villager gets it during the day it's easy for them to be targeted. If it's taken at night we won't know if it makes it's way to Archer. I don't want to vote Archer now while he's still a villager.

[Kasimir he/him]

[OOC: Good enough for me. I currently ascribe low probability to this being a gambit. Will reassess if Dev turns out to be Evil. 

Archer Mat 

No RP rn I'm tired] 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Kasimir
Grammar rip

[Alvron]

8 minutes ago, Lotus said:

I love ties.

But that may be because Alvron's chaos has infected me and is slowly eating me from the inside out