Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: In this situation what would I have been 'caught' by though. You're looking at it backwards The point is that you're been 'caught' by this whole "reasoning" thing or whatever people are voting on you for. you know that you should be caught, and it's annoying you that people are falsely accusing you of something, because you feel like you didn't actually get a chance to play and prove that you can't be caught or whatnot
Mat he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: The point is that you're been 'caught' by this whole "reasoning" thing or whatever people are voting on you for. you know that you should be caught, and it's annoying you that people are falsely accusing you of something, because you feel like you didn't actually get a chance to play and prove that you can't be caught or whatnot That's rather tinfoily, is it not? I mean, I am kinda annoyed that I don't get to play and prove I'm innocent and whatnot but at the same time, I don't really have the time/shouldn't use my time for this game so maybe it's better to die D1. Plus, it'd be a first for me
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Illwei said: The point is that you're been 'caught' by this whole "reasoning" thing or whatever people are voting on you for. you know that you should be caught, and it's annoying you that people are falsely accusing you of something, because you feel like you didn't actually get a chance to play and prove that you can't be caught or whatnot Basically, Illwei's saying that exactly what happened to me D1 of the AG is now happening to you. And you're responding in (more or less) the same way : P
Mat he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: Basically, Illwei's saying that exactly what happened to me D1 of the AG is now happening to you. And you're responding in (more or less) the same way : P Our meta is not the sameeeeee
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: That's rather tinfoily, is it not? I mean, I am kinda annoyed that I don't get to play and prove I'm innocent and whatnot but at the same time, I don't really have the time/shouldn't use my time for this game so maybe it's better to die D1. Plus, it'd be a first for me I I wouldn't vall that "tinfoily" ? I think I've managed to stay away from the cronchy kiwis thus far, and if I were to take a bite it would be more "Striker and Mat are both e/e and this is some elaborate setup that never meant to get this far and now Striker is left having to bus Mat D1" but even then that's like, the only thing I can think o? and that's also not really tinfoiling there. EDIT: 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: Our meta is not the sameeeeee meta is irrelevant hereeeeee. Meta does not matter Quinn was an Elim who was voted off for something she didn't think was actually AI now that is theoretically what is happening to you nothing about meta Edited January 30, 2021 by Illwei
Ookla-son-son-Ventyl Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: That's rather tinfoily, is it not? I mean, I am kinda annoyed that I don't get to play and prove I'm innocent and whatnot but at the same time, I don't really have the time/shouldn't use my time for this game so maybe it's better to die D1. Plus, it'd be a first for me It is tinfoily, but I’ve done the exact thing before as an elim—which is probably one of my tells... So, Matrim, sorry I’ve been flip flopping. I didn’t want to possibly mis-CM a villager, but considering you’re doing something I’ve done as an elim quite often it gives me an elim read of you. (Don’t worry Mat, if you flip village I’ll write a properly sad RP for you!) edit: ninja’d by half the world Edited January 30, 2021 by Ventyl
Mat he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Ventyl said: So, Matrim, sorry I’ve been flip flopping. I didn’t want to possibly mis-CM a villager, but considering you’re doing something I’ve done as an elim quite often it gives me an elim read of you. Our playstyles are even more different than Quinn and mine what even it this reasoning Why are people comparing themself to me I don't play elim the same as you
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Hi psa if ur voting someone based off of ur meta i kindly ask you to take a step back and remember they rn't u maybe u think that its a general elim thing which is different but if ur like "aw man id do this" then take a step back maybe look and see if other ppl would do it too and then if they would come back in full force or whatnot just remember not everyone plays the same so yeah or maybe like, give some reasoning as to why you would do that as an elim, give some thoughts behind it. that would also work ye tank u also book of vigor is mine no one else better take it Edited January 30, 2021 by Illwei 1
|TJ| he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I relatively trust you Why? Any particular reason?
Mat he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, TJ Shade said: Why? Any particular reason? Nope. Gut, I guess. Maybe something from a group PM influenced that but that thing is so long I'm not gonna go find it :P.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Illwei said: I wouldn't vall that "tinfoily" ? I think I've managed to stay away from the cronchy kiwis thus far, and if I were to take a bite it would be more "Striker and Mat are both e/e and this is some elaborate setup that never meant to get this far and now Striker is left having to bus Mat D1" but even then that's like, the only thing I can think o? and that's also not really tinfoiling there. Actually that's not quite as crazy as you might think, Illwei. If the elims wanted to get one of their members into the group of trusted villagers through a bus then their best bet would be a D1 bus, since A. generally no one busses D1 and B. as things are right now, losing a member won't decrease the Hoard Strength, so it doesn't directly take away from their win-con. Well, not as directly anyway. At least, that's how I would do it :P. Obviously all that is still tinfoil, which we know is my favorite snack. But even if Matrim flips elim, we probably shouldn't consider the people who voted for him--any of the people who voted for him, myself included--to be totally clear. Just, y'know, to be on the safe side and all.
Mat he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: Actually that's not quite as crazy as you might think, Illwei. If the elims wanted to get one of their members into the group of trusted villagers through a bus then their best bet would be a D1 bus, since A. generally no one busses D1 and B. as things are right now, losing a member won't decrease the Hoard Strength, so it doesn't directly take away from their win-con. Well, not as directly anyway. At least, that's how I would do it :P. If nothing else this extreme amount of tinfoil is enough for me to slight vil read Quinn for the moment 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: Obviously all that is still tinfoil, which we know is my favorite snack. But even if Matrim flips elim, we probably shouldn't consider the people who voted for him--any of the people who voted for him, myself included--to be totally clear. Just, y'know, to be on the safe side and all. But what are you gonna do about all those people when I flip village?
Archer he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said: There are quite possibly errors in this as I put it together rather quickly, but here's a VC: Gears (4): STINK, Araris Valerian, Kasimir, Matrim's Dice Random Bystander (1): Mist Matrim's Dice (5): TJ Shade, StrikerEZ, Quinn0928, Flyingbooks Flyingbooks (2): Ashbringer, Archer Condensation (1): Illwei This count is correct. I'll add the order, for later reference: Stink on Gears, Araris on Gears, Kas on Gears, Mist on Random (fittingly), Illwei on Kas, Mat on Quinn, Mat on Striker, TJ on Mat, Ashbringer on Flying, Striker on Mat, Illwei on Ash, Flyingbooks on Archer, Illwei on Kas, Archer on Flying, Illwei on Connie, Ventyl on Mat, Quinn on Mat, Ventyl RETRACTS Mat, Mat on Gears, Flying books on Mat, Ventyl on Mat. I don't like the wagon on Gears because it's an easy excuse for a mis-exe. As far as I can tell, they only ever RP being evil, they never actually act against the village's interests when village claiming elim. However, that conversation has been had many times over, so let's not get into it now. I think Matrim is the most suspicious of a group of very neutral-village people, but not enough to vote for them. If I'm reading the situation correctly, I think Flyingbooks and I both tried to poke-vote each other and they both flopped, so I'm moving my vote to Illwei because of the way they presented their arguments about Connie. They thought they'd caught a slip, but then were cagey about it. Why mention it at all, and vote for them, if you aren't going to argue the case more persuasively? You have to know what you've said so far won't result in them being exed. *** “You clock-brain!” Evan fell to his side as the Rithmatist in front of him spilled a bucket of water in his direction. Heedless of the mud on his coat, Evan quickly grasped at his lapel pocket. He checked inside, then breathed a sigh of relief. “Acid burn your toes off or something?” Annoyed, he got to his feet. “Watch where you’re going, mate. Or I’ll bring your name up at the next court martial.” He started storming off then turned, staring at the man who was trying to apologize. Then he shook his head and marched away in a huff. “Too young anyway,” he muttered. *** Unofficial Vote Count Update Gears (4): STINK, Araris Valerian, Kasimir, Matrim's Dice Random Bystander (1): Mist Matrim's Dice (5): TJ Shade, StrikerEZ, Quinn0928, Flyingbooks, Ventyl (new addition) Flyingbooks (1): Ashbringer Condensation (1): Illwei Illwei (1): Archer (new addition)
|TJ| he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Illwei said: also book of vigor is mine no one else better take it hey hey aren't you supposed to not know rithmatics? why do you want books for?
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: Actually that's not quite as crazy as you might think, Illwei. If the elims wanted to get one of their members into the group of trusted villagers through a bus then their best bet would be a D1 bus, since A. generally no one busses D1 and B. as things are right now, losing a member won't decrease the Hoard Strength, so it doesn't directly take away from their win-con. Well, not as directly anyway. At least, that's how I would do it :P. Welcome to LG69 but no generally people don't do that, Quinn. because. Bussing is not. you don't. ...sorry vapor....People don't normally bus D1 because that's just. rude? kinda? ...sorry vapor ;-;... so it's not a crrrraaaaazy theory, but it's. it's tinfoiling. Quinn. it's tinfoiling. please don't start down there. quinn. it'd only be okay if the person was like okay with it? which no one goes into an Elim game going "yo imma die d1 to clear yall. pog?" because that don't even noramlly work and someone shouldn't be like out of the blue attacking a teammate hard in thread because that also makes it not a good experience ya know? so .. sorry vapor ;-;
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: no one goes into an Elim game going "yo imma die d1 to clear yall. pog?" because Actually I would not have put it past myself to propose that plan if I got elim. I'm tired of elim XD
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: if I got elim r u matrim? no? cool :P.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: r u matrim? no? cool :P. No my point was that it is not technically correct that "no one" goes into an elim game willing to die lol
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: No my point was that it is not technically correct that "no one" goes into an elim game willing to die lol no one meaning matrim or striker in this context or vapor. sorry vapor ;-;.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: no one meaning matrim or striker in this context or vapor. sorry vapor ;-;. Okay now I have to ask: what the heck did you do to Vapor in LG69??? XD
StrikerEZ he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 I think an elim choosing to get bussed D1 is different than the others deciding to bus them. Also, I don’t know why were going so hard on Quinn for saying things like “hey I might do this as an elim.” There are very much things that I have noticed that many people tend to fall into when they’re in a situation like this.
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 I don’t want Mat exed here. I also don’t want Gears exed here. Help. (I will look for alternate suspects, and/or find actual reasons to stay on Books. But not for an hour or so. Am busy.)
Quintessential she/her Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said: I think an elim choosing to get bussed D1 is different than the others deciding to bus them. Also, I don’t know why were going so hard on Quinn for saying things like “hey I might do this as an elim.” There are very much things that I have noticed that many people tend to fall into when they’re in a situation like this. I'm not sure there are really that many people following that, actually. And I guess I should stop phrasing it that way, because it's not exactly what I mean; it's just that I just played three elim games in a row so the things that feel elimmy to me are going to be the things that I could understand an elim reasonably doing in a given situation (though given my love of tinfoil, my definition of "reasonable" may be a bit unreliable lol). Some of those things are things I've actually done, but my core reason for voting Matrim is that he's said a bunch of things that I can imagine an elim saying pretty easily (not just me, but an elim in general) but I have a hard time picturing a villager (once again, in general) saying those things. And like... idk, if the rest of you don't read him that way then don't vote him just because I do read him that way. 3 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I don’t want Mat exed here. I also don’t want Gears exed here. Help. Welcome to the D1 exe!
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I don’t want Mat exed here. I also don’t want Gears exed here. Help. (I will look for alternate suspects, and/or find actual reasons to stay on Books. But not for an hour or so. Am busy.) How about we find enough people to remove all the votes from either one?
Illwei Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 oh kay a summary of the Mat-Striker thing. it was surprisingly short. someone else probably did this. im tired. On 1/28/2021 at 7:53 PM, Matrim's Dice said: And didn't Alv say that going for a book puts a target on your back? Striker! Welcome to the game reads as half- joke. Mat also mentions his dislike of overprotecting, which is something I agree with. On 1/28/2021 at 8:01 PM, TJ Shade said: Also Matrim's Dice. The target on the back meaning in danger from elims, an since you are putting the said target on his back, he is in danger from you. Also reads as a half joke, calling Matrim an Elim because of...well, reads as a joke. On 1/28/2021 at 8:04 PM, Matrim's Dice said: I still don't like the overprotection thing though Cleared up things bc Tj's vote, but he sticks with his vote because of the overprotective thing On 1/28/2021 at 8:38 PM, StrikerEZ said: I personally find it odd that you would paint a target on my back purposefully This feels like it came outta left field (is that a saying?) Maybe I'm quoting the wrong things, but I quoted...idk. things. and this don't make no sense to me. to me to. to ma to. anyways yeah Idk striker says this which definitely feels like an exaggeration on the situation. On 1/28/2021 at 8:38 PM, StrikerEZ said: Seems like it would benefit an elim to have us not overdefend Conversation on to overdefend or not ya know they both have pros and cons, I can see Mat's thinking (oh gee what a surprise -_-) and like, I don't think it's neccessarily an Elim viewpoint or whatnot. Again, I think Striker is exaggerating things again. On 1/28/2021 at 8:44 PM, Matrim's Dice said: I just don't want everyone to be using their chalk up in the first three cycles so that we just get overrun three times in a row later on. I agree with this, this was my opinion. On 1/28/2021 at 8:49 PM, StrikerEZ said: I never said that I wanted us to coordinate this in thread. Nitpicky on small detail On 1/28/2021 at 9:05 PM, Matrim's Dice said: How else would we coordinate, though? PMs are debatably more foolish to try to coordinate in. I'm not trying to paint a narrative, just trying to figure out your thought process. ehhh maybe not more foolish really On 1/28/2021 at 9:12 PM, StrikerEZ said: But letting the information go around the PM webs is a good way to coordinate things. And if something goes wrong, we start figuring out where it went wrong. Good point here. kinda think that their conversation got off topic there and then kinda died out. 23 hours ago, Quinn0928 said: That way we get our directionless-mess phase out of the way before the elims have had a chance to kill Wait this isn't related Okay anyways basically I see Striker more suspicious than mat here tbh. Mat had opinions, and with each one I see Striker kinda making it bigger than it is. What I think is interesting is how no one online ever commented on their discussion? i mean, I know I didn't and I'm at fault for that, but like...no one? said? anything? granted only like 2 people got involved in the connie-me thing in LG7....2? but that's still 2 more than here. people addressed it after the fact (ie: now) but no one wanted to get in the middle of it then. sad. if someone did I'd have at least one town read rn :(.
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