Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Sorry not much to say from me this cycle except - On the lowest of keys, blocking Burnt should be an option that should be stated here because the likelihood that just Burnt submits the kill is quite high. I hope that by mentioning it here, I've created some IKYK but either way - 1. we block someone else and get to know they are elim + need only 1 elim dead in this Loop 2. we block Burnt which would still mean we need only 1 elim dead in this Loop 3. elims skip a kill which means we have already won the cycle I feel like when you compare case (1) and case(2), elims have a lot more to lose from using case (1), which is why I feel it's highly likely that Burnt submits the kill. Maybe. You should definitely block me i agree. I've already put in the kill order after all. Save Cindra from becoming a killer! --- Cindra was quiet as she walked with the others to the zora hall. She wanted to know what planning was happening, but she felt the anger and distrust that had been directed her way. The stone mask had allowed her to avoid that, the people's attention being directed at another. And she sighed. Completely unjustified as far as she was concerned. After all this loop was the first time she had even been armed! Ignoring the random stick she picked up one point. That ended up just being a walking stick, but technically that could be considered arming herself. 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 Stone Mask wearers cannot take actions, including removing the Mask @|TJ|
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Stone Mask wearers cannot take actions, including removing the Mask @|TJ| Spoil sport
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 Just now, Burnt Spaghetti said: Spoil sport It's a lot of rules ma'am someone has to referee when y'all can't keep track smh
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: It's a lot of rules ma'am someone has to referee when y'all can't keep track smh I know i know, you're doing a great job, we appreciate you Edit for more rp because Im heading out and won't have time: In addition to calculating numbers, cindra was also taking inventory. While she was happy with her decision to prepare at her own home first as she was able to get some key items and arm herself, she was irritated that it meant she hadn't been able to pack with Thistle. Others had gone straight there, and the packing was done quite quickly. The last two loops Cindra had been able to be in there, taking her pick of the produce to 'help carry'. She would have loved to claim some of the bomb flowers but knew that would be too much. This time, despite staying close to her, Cindra did not have all the herbs and their uses at their disposal. Thistle was now even more important to keep at her side. Edited March 15 by Burnt Spaghetti 1
Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: I am still interested in hearing your opinion on who we should focus on targeting. I agree that the elim who died l2 is the likely person. Not sure how helpful it is to have the thread agree on who we want to be targeted, even if IKYK headaches can be fun. Stiill, you suggested publicly solving, who do you have in mind? True story, my D2A guess was a team that sounds vaguely like Tyrese Haliburton: Tj 'ris Hael Burnt (on). The fact that I still think that's a viable team (well, one of TJ/Araris) tells me I haven't properly reevaluated in a while. As convenient as e!TJ would be, I think e!Araris is more likely and would Bremen block them. Not me personally, having been outed by the rules lawyers, but I would if I could. Quote "Oaue?" Thistle called, taking the child over. "This little one says she saw Gerudo ghost pirates, and she's really frightened. Do you think you can take care of her? Put some food in her belly?" Gerudo Ghost Pirates... As far as Thistle knew, the Gerudo were all in the Ikana. Flying, see-through Gerudo pirates? Shaking their head, they went back to Kieran, figuring he was the best person to report this to. Ouae had never been good at interpreting insinuations. "Take care of her?" Floating in the ether, she looked around for her butcher's knife. "Seems extreme..." "Put some food in her belly?" Thistle clarified. Ouae understood. Their head chef had once asked her to 'put food in the bellies' of some health inspectors, and handed her a bag of concrete and some rope. She floated to beside the inconvenient witness and whispered in their ear. "We're the ghost pirates. Boo!" 2
Doc12 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, Archer said: True story, my D2A guess was a team that sounds vaguely like Tyrese Haliburton: Tj 'ris Hael Burnt (on). The fact that I still think that's a viable team (well, one of TJ/Araris) tells me I haven't properly reevaluated in a while. As convenient as e!TJ would be, I think e!Araris is more likely and would Bremen block them. Not me personally, having been outed by the rules lawyers, but I would if I could. Ouae had never been good at interpreting insinuations. "Take care of her?" Floating in the ether, she looked around for her butcher's knife. "Seems extreme..." "Put some food in her belly?" Thistle clarified. Ouae understood. Their head chef had once asked her to 'put food in the bellies' of some health inspectors, and handed her a bag of concrete and some rope. She floated to beside the inconvenient witness and whispered in their ear. "We're the ghost pirates. Boo!" I was very sad I couldn't be Postmaster the whole game Also apologies for getting your character's gender wrong. Also your character is a horrible person, and Thistle's coverign Lili's ears and throwing a rock at Ouae. 1
Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 90% of ghosts are nefarious. I don;t think she can physically influence the living world right now. Unless she's alive again and I missed that part of the writeup. I never figured out how the resurrection mechanic works in-story. 7 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Thistle's coverign Lili's ears and throwing a rock at Ouae. Ouae: "Hey!" And up she rises. 1
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Cindra paused for a moment. She could've sworn she forgot something. She looked through her pack, to discover. Her sweets! Someone had stolen her sweets!
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Burnt Spaghetti said: Cindra paused for a moment. She could've sworn she forgot something. She looked through her pack, to discover. Her sweets! Someone had stolen her sweets! Only good boys and girls deserve sweets. Anyway, the night is now over! 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 (edited) LG110, Day 3-C: Cut and Run Day 3-C will end on Monday, March 16th @ 10:00 PM EST. Wayward Few Quote The Happy Mask Salesman said nothing while the others debated. Only Thistle seemed willing to voice her conflictions. Kieran and Wahi quickly saw his way of it, however, and the others seemed to agree with silence, their eyes forward, weight settled. The posture of people who had already made the decision and were waiting for the motion to carry them. Some nodded, but it was Ap who took the first step, encouraging the others. The problem was the Gorons. Link stood at the edge of the shore and looked at the boat with the expression of someone who had been brave about a great many things and was now being asked to be brave about something his body considered categorically different from all of those things. Gor Elam stood beside him with his arms crossed, which for a Goron meant his fists were approximately level with his collarbone, and stared at the hull with deep professional skepticism. Shallow water was one thing. Puddles, rivers, even the user controlled flood chambers of Woodfall Temple — manageable, navigable, recoverable. The open bay was another matter. They were made of stone, and the sea was deep. Gorons could not swim, let alone float. Ap jumped back onto shore, smiled at them, then put on the Goron Mask. She stepped onto the boat without ceremony, planting her full Goron weight on the deck in one solid movement. The hull dipped. The water displaced around the hull. The boat remained a boat. She stood on it, heavy and round and thoroughly afloat, and looked back at them. Link stared at her. Then he put one foot on the deck, testing. The boat did not immediately sink. He put the other foot down, and stood very still, and the boat continued to be a boat, and after a moment the tension in his shoulders dropped by a fraction. Gor Elam watched this, then stepped on after him with the dignity of someone who had decided not to make a fuss about it. The hull settled lower in the water. Still floating. The Happy Mask Salesman was already untying the mooring lines. "Excellent," he said, and took the tiller. The bay at night was wide and dark and the Ghost Ship was not on it, or not visibly. They took shifts at the stern — an hour each, eyes on the skyline in every direction — and passed the night in the particular quiet of open water. Ap dozed in short stretches on the deck, Goron-heavy and uncomfortable, but unwilling to lose the mask's solid feeling. When she was awake she watched the water and thought about not very much, which was its own kind of sleeping. The Ghost Ship didn't appear. Whatever it had gone to do at Zora Hall, it was doing it without announcing itself. The Happy Mask Salesman didn't sleep at all. He stood at the tiller through every shift change, pointing them northwest. The sun came up behind them just as the Zora Cape resolved out of the dark ahead — the great stone arch of it, the hollow below where the water churned, the island beyond. And above the cape, against the lightening sky, smoke. Not a cooking fire. The thick grey columns of something that had been burning for hours and had not finished. Underneath the smoke, hundreds of cries and screams carried across the water that the crew of a fishing boat had no good reason to be hearing at this distance. The Happy Mask Salesman looked at it. He looked at the cape, at the island beyond the arch, at the water between them and the shore. Then he adjusted course slightly and kept them on heading. "Grandfather," Ap said. "I know." "We could—" "I know." His voice was even. Not cold — steady, the way a wall is steady. "We cannot. Not from out here, not in time, not without abandoning what we came for." He didn't look at her. "The only way to help them is to get the mask and rewind again. If we go in there now, we lose everything." Thistle was sitting at the rail, watching the smoke. She didn't speak. Nobody did for a while. "Sometimes," the Happy Mask Salesman said, to the boat generally, "being a hero doesn't mean fighting every battle that's put in front of you. It means choosing the right one." He paused. "Even when the wrong battle is burning." He steered them toward the island. It was small — barely more than a rock with enough flat ground to stand on, ringed by deeper water on all sides. The Happy Mask Salesman brought the boat in alongside it with a surprising amount of skill that Ap never knew he had. Upon being asked, Ap hopped off to tie the line to a jutting spike of a rock. She was back to being a girl now. Sometimes she needed a moment to breathe as herself. She straightened up and looked back at Zora Hall. The fires were clearer now that they were closer, the screams less so, which was either better or worse depending on how you looked at it. "We didn't see the Ghost Pirates until the night," she said, to no one specifically. "Does that mean they go away when it gets bright?" The Happy Mask Salesman looked up. Not at her — at the moon, sitting fat and low and too close in the morning sky, its shadow stretching long across the water. "If we're lucky, maybe," he said. "But something tells me the moon's shadow will get in the way." He looked at the smoke, then back at her. "Considering everything you've told me about Woodfall and Snowhead, it seems like the Dreamers, or the Skull Kid, or both are doing everything they can to interfere with us at every turn. Which means we're on the right path." He tilted his head slightly. "Obstacles only matter if you're pointed somewhere worth going." Ap looked at the fires. She had stood at the edge of a swamp temple while people died inside it. She had watched the moon fall twice. She had played the Song of Time and taken all of it back — the deaths, the fear, the long ugly hours of it — and none of the people who'd lived through it had to carry any of it forward except the ones who remembered. That was something. It wasn't nothing. Thistle was quiet at the rail. Thistle, who had put herself between strangers and danger more times than anyone had asked, who had come through both loops holding everyone else together and carrying her own damage on the inside where it didn't slow her down. She was going to be all right. They were all going to be all right, when this was over. If there was something Ap could do about the memory of it — when this was all done, when the song had been played the final time and the world was still standing — she was going to find a way to ask. Maybe the Happy Mask Salesman would know. Maybe there was a song for that too. Maybe she'd want to forget some of it herself. She was eleven years old and she was tired in a way that sleep hadn't touched for three loops, and she was frightened, and she was standing on a rock in the middle of the Great Bay while a hall full of Zora burned on the shore behind her and the moon pressed down from above. She knew all of that clearly. She also knew the island she was standing on, on what create she could summon here, and what was waiting inside the temple at the bottom of the bay. She reached for the ocarina. "The New Wave Bossa Nova," the Happy Mask Salesman said. "Do you remember how to play it?" "I remember," Ap mumbled, suddenly feeling less confident. "Specifically, I remember that I was never very good at it..." He nodded assuringly, perhaps expecting her answer. "Just play what you know. Start slowly." She raised the ocarina and played the first phrase. It came out almost right — three notes true, the fourth a half-step flat, the rhythm stuttering at the turn. She stopped and started again. Better, and then worse, the melody slipping at exactly the same point both times, the part where it bent back on itself and required the kind of relaxed certainty she didn't currently have. Lili was watching her. The little Zora girl put her hands in her lap, and tilted her head, and began to hum. Not the part Ap was stumbling on — the whole song, from the beginning, clean and clear and slightly louder than the wind off the water. She hummed it through once without stopping. Then she hummed it again, and again, and kept going. Ap put the ocarina to her lips and played along. She missed the bend again but she didn't stop, and Lili didn't stop, and the melody kept moving forward underneath her like a current she could follow even when she was fighting it. Then the Happy Mask Salesman began to hum from his place at the bow, low and solid, locking in the rhythm. Thistle picked it up next. Then others, one by one, until the whole crew was humming the melody softly into the morning air, watching Ap, not watching the fires, filling the silence around her mistakes with the same notes she was reaching for. She played it again from the start. This time the bend came and she leaned into it instead of against it, and it went where it was supposed to go, and the rest of the phrase followed cleanly, and she reached the end and began again, and it was right this time, and she kept playing. The water around the island changed. It had been ordinary bay water — dark, choppy, moved by wind. Now it had a quality of intention. The surface rose slightly at the edges of the rock. The rock itself shifted, and shifted again, and the shift was not the rocking of a small island on the tide. Then the island moved upward. Not the rock. The rock was a shell. What was underneath it — ancient, vast, patient — had been sleeping here long enough that moss had grown on its back and gull nests had accumulated in its ridges, and it opened its eyes now the way something opens its eyes when a sound has been calling it from a very long way away, and arrived. The Giant Turtle rose from the Great Bay with all the unhurried certainty of something that has been here before and knows how this goes. The boat lurched against its line. Everyone stabilized their stances, grabbed for something solid, some holding onto each other. And in the bright morning light on the water — in the shadow of the moon, which still draped itself across the bay regardless of what hour it was — shapes appeared. A dozen of them. More. Standing on the water or close enough to it that there was no visible difference, pale and translucent and absolutely still, arranged in a loose ring around the island. They had been here the whole time. Scouting in the half light, either invisible or well hidden. The sound of the song had drawn them close enough to be caught in the moon's shadow, and in the shadow they were solid, or solid enough, and every one of them was looking at the boat. The lead pirate rested her hand on a cutlass that caught light that had no business reflecting off something you could see through. Everything was quiet as it sliced through the Happy Mask Salesman's neck, decapitating his head. @DrakeMarshall was removed from the Loop. Player List 0 Amanuensis Happy Mask Apprentice, AKA 'Ap' 1 @The Unknown Order Heroshi 2 @Araris Valerian Arenta 3 @Wahrheitswächter Wahi 4 @Ashbringer Coliver 5 @coco.pudding Amora 6 @|TJ| Cosmetica 7 @Stick. meeee 8 @Haelbarde Link the Goron 9 @Wonko the Sane Zymni 10 @Doc12 Thistle 11 @Burnt Spaghetti Cindra 12 @DrakeMarshall Squircle 13 @Mistfallen Soldier Kieran 14 @Divergent Gor Elam the Goron 15 @Archer Ouae the Zora 16 @TwinStorm Mumbo Edited March 16 by Amanuensis 4
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 I’m in favor of exing Hael, simply because if I’m wrong about Twin, he’s the other option for elim(assuming V doc, which I do)
Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Drake feels like a fear kill. But we should remember that WGG has come into play when we get to L4. 1. What's your theorized elim team? 2. Pragmatically, who do you think we should exe today?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 My elim teams are Burnt/coco/Archer/(Hael or Doc or Twinstorm) and Burnt/Mist/TJ/Twinstorm. Pragmatically speaking, we might be okay in world 1 already (coco+Twinstorm elims), so that would suggest we should exe Mist or TJ today. Depends on how strong the v!coco/e!Twinstorm reads are. @Archer, what are your thoughts on why e!Burnt claimed the scan on Mist? You think it was just a major misplay? (I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on this, btw)
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 13 minutes ago, Archer said: Drake feels like a fear kill. But we should remember that WGG has come into play when we get to L4. 1. What's your theorized elim team? 2. Pragmatically, who do you think we should exe today? 1. Burnt/Coco/Twin/Stick 2. Hael, for reasons of me being fallible
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, Burnt Spaghetti said: Hey i thought I said drake lives You’re not the one submitting the NK, you don’t get to choose
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 25 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: 1. Burnt/Coco/Twin/Stick Why Stick over Archer? Archer looks extremely paired with coco IMO.
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Okay, the dead have asked me to pass along a message. Yes, I am claiming to have the Captain’s Hat this loop. Specifically, Drake is claiming to have had the Don Gero mask. He has been wearing it since N1. Last night, when he was killed, he was informed that only one player targeted him: Stick His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In terms of the rest of the dead: Coco has been fairly active. Not getting strong elim vibes I must say. Ash has just wanted to relax, so has been in little. Twin has appeared once or twice but has not said a whole lot. 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Why Stick over Archer? Archer looks extremely paired with coco IMO. I had reasons, but that’s leaving my mind right now because of what Hael said. I know I’ve answered this before though. 8 minutes ago, Haelbarde said: Okay, the dead have asked me to pass along a message. Yes, I am claiming to have the Captain’s Hat this loop. Specifically, Drake is claiming to have had the Don Gero mask. He has been wearing it since N1. Last night, when he was killed, he was informed that only one player targeted him: Stick His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In terms of the rest of the dead: Coco has been fairly active. Not getting strong elim vibes I must say. Ash has just wanted to relax, so has been in little. Twin has appeared once or twice but has not said a whole lot. Anyone want to counter-claim? Otherwise I’m believing him
Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Haelbarde said: Okay, the dead have asked me to pass along a message. Yes, I am claiming to have the Captain’s Hat this loop. Specifically, Drake is claiming to have had the Don Gero mask. He has been wearing it since N1. Last night, when he was killed, he was informed that only one player targeted him: Stick His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In terms of the rest of the dead: Coco has been fairly active. Not getting strong elim vibes I must say. Ash has just wanted to relax, so has been in little. Twin has appeared once or twice but has not said a whole lot. I love this game design. Hael is incentivized to lie here. The problem is that Hael could have the hat and be lying about what Drake is saying. We would need Drake to say some verifiable information for Hael to share if he's being honest. @Araris Valerian I think we can dispense with the e! prefix on Burnt. --We know they made the decision on N3B, conceding that it would give Ashbringer 50 rupees to contest Stone with. They killed a confirmed villager to limit the info it offers. --I assume they expected us to exe both Mistfallen and Burnt. I assume they expected us to prioritize Mistfallen, since they were "closer" to 50 than Scent!Burnt. --Best case scenario is Burnt gets Stone and is protected. Second best case scenario is Burnt/MF both die. --Worst case scenario is Burnt misses out on Stone, when they could have won it uncontested without the Ashbringer NK. (Could anyone else could have gotten Stone. Doc? There's an argument to be made that the other 50s are village because if the elims could get Stone uncontested, they probably just go for that. Have someone elim slip if you're worried Burnt is under pressure D1.) --So why do it? Mathematically, the POE pool was getting small, and guaranteeing 1 mix on MF (with a possible win via D2 Burnt exe without realizing they're Stone) sets them up nicely D3. I don't think there necessarily needed to be any more pressure than that of a small suspect pool to make that play worth doing. We were circling in on Burnt and Coco, so you can believe that that made them uncomfortable being passive. I can see them trying the play either way. --I've 180ed back to E!TJ because I think if you're going to try this play, you should commit to it. TJ made a big deal of proving Burnt couldn't afford Stone, which was the secret sauce to make the ruse work. (I also need to check if anyone argued for killing them both - I think we shut that down pretty quick.) -I'm looking at Burnt/Coco/Hael/TJ as the team. --Just kidding, it's obviously Stick. @Haelbarde Drake only said he knew who the Postmaster was based on the mask info? Edited March 15 by Archer 2
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 14 minutes ago, Archer said: I love this game design. Hael is incentivized to lie here. The problem is that Hael could have the hat and be lying about what Drake is saying. We would need Drake to say some verifiable information for Hael to share if he's being honest. @Araris Valerian I think we can dispense with the e! prefix on Burnt. --We know they made the decision on N3B, conceding that it would give Ashbringer 50 rupees to contest Stone with. They killed a confirmed villager to limit the info it offers. --I assume they expected us to exe both Mistfallen and Burnt. I assume they expected us to prioritize Mistfallen, since they were "closer" to 50 than Scent!Burnt. --Best case scenario is Burnt gets Stone and is protected. Second best case scenario is Burnt/MF both die. --Worst case scenario is Burnt misses out on Stone, when they could have won it uncontested without the Ashbringer NK. (Could anyone else could have gotten Stone. Doc? There's an argument to be made that the other 50s are village because if the elims could get Stone uncontested, they probably just go for that. Have someone elim slip if you're worried Burnt is under pressure D1.) --So why do it? Mathematically, the POE pool was getting small, and guaranteeing 1 mix on MF (with a possible win via D2 Burnt exe without realizing they're Stone) sets them up nicely D3. I don't think there necessarily needed to be any more pressure than that of a small suspect pool to make that play worth doing. We were circling in on Burnt and Coco, so you can believe that that made them uncomfortable being passive. I can see them trying the play either way. --I've 180ed back to E!TJ because I think if you're going to try this play, you should commit to it. TJ made a big deal of proving Burnt couldn't afford Stone, which was the secret sauce to make the ruse work. (I also need to check if anyone argued for killing them both - I think we shut that down pretty quick.) -I'm looking at Burnt/Coco/Hael/TJ as the team. --Just kidding, it's obviously Stick. @Haelbarde Drake only said he knew who the Postmaster was based on the mask info? Which is why I still think we should vote Hael.
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, Archer said: Drake only said he knew who the Postmaster was based on the mask info He received a PM Night 1, and the mask told him he was only targetted by one player. Aman has previously said that the postman works by players targeting the Postman to send messages, and then the Postman targets the recipients. The player targeting him N1 will have been the Postman, should Drake have been sent a PM. Drake asked me just now to communicate to you that men with tonsures are not to cover their heads with things sounding like bovines while frowning (Drake was frowning, not the men). (He didn't use those words, but I don't think I'm meant to be copy pasting exact words from a doc).
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 32 minutes ago, Haelbarde said: Okay, the dead have asked me to pass along a message. Yes, I am claiming to have the Captain’s Hat this loop. Specifically, Drake is claiming to have had the Don Gero mask. He has been wearing it since N1. Last night, when he was killed, he was informed that only one player targeted him: Stick His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In terms of the rest of the dead: Coco has been fairly active. Not getting strong elim vibes I must say. Ash has just wanted to relax, so has been in little. Twin has appeared once or twice but has not said a whole lot. I guess this doesn't make sense to me. You are saying that coco seems village, but v!coco seems to pretty strongly imply e!TJ, which in turn would clear Stick. Presumably, Hael (or an elim that isn't Hael) actually has the Captain's Hat, and either Drake, another dead player, or an elim has the Don Gero mask. Otherwise this claim would fall flat pretty quickly. Did anyone PM Drake last night? That would debunk this claim as well. By the previous assumptions, Hael probably does know the actual owner of the Postman's Hat, so that can't help us sort this out. If Hael is elim, then it seems like it would follow that either coco or Twinstorm is village (otherwise, the elims don't need a gambit here). If Hael is village then of course Stick is elim.
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