Amanuensis he/him Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 Day 1-C is now over. It might take me some time for the turn over. D1s tend to have more busy work 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 (edited) LG110, Night 1-C: Midnight Deadline Night 1-C will end on Thursday, March 12th @ 10:00 PM EST. Wayward Few Quote The knocking at the back door was patient and insistent, like someone who had committed to a door and was not going to leave until it opened. Ap in Goron form acquised. Kieran stood in the alley with his collar up, looking mildly vindicated. Behind him — close enough that she could make out Thistle's herb-stained satchel, Zymni's silver hair, the expression Cindra wore when she was pretending not to be relieved, and Amora at the back, arms crossed, scanning the alley from which they came. "There's a front entrance," Ap told Kieran. "The plaza's packed," he said, in the tone of a man who had definitely known this. "Seemed stealthier." "Come in," she said. The main room was already crowded. Throughout the day, familiar faces had drifted in and out — some browsing, some buying, some simply needing somewhere to stand that felt solid — and several had stayed. Lamplight warmed the shelves. The masks on the walls watched with their painted expressions, patient as always. She got everyone inside and closed both doors. The Happy Mask Salesman stood at the front of the room with his hands folded and spoke for the better part of an hour. The summary of it was simple enough, though simple was not the same as easy: The Skull Kid now held two of the four Giant's Masks. Odolwa's. Goht's. Each one a sealed Giant, imprisoned, its power added to something that was already older and larger and more purposeful than any of them wanted to sit with. A third mask would not be a setback. A third mask would end the world. Gyorg's Mask was in the Great Bay. That was where they were going. They all understood what that meant. He understood — he said this with care, and he meant it — what he was asking of them. Not bravery. Something harder. He was asking them to put down their grief, their fear, and the full weight of everything they had watched happen and couldn't undo. He was asking them to let the worst outcomes of their actions and inaction to be the fuel they burn to fly rather than an anchor to sink them down, to move through the next three days without flinching at the cost, because the cost — all of it, every death and every loss across both loops — would be undone once they won. Ap had the ocarina. Ap had played the Song of Time twice already. As long as she was alive and the ocarina was in her hands, nothing that happened was permanent. He was not asking for their loyalty to this mission lightly. He knew exactly what he was describing and he did not soften it. He was asking more than twenty people, many of them children like Ap, to help save the world while treating their own safety with flippancy. He couldn't promise it would feel good or right or fun. He could only promise it would be worth it. They needed to leave now. Right now. Before the play. No warnings, no goodbyes, nothing that would slow them down or pull someone else into a decision they hadn't been asked to make. The room went quiet. Then: anyone unwilling to go under those conditions was free to stay. No blame. No obligation. But the ones who were coming needed to decide now, because they were leaving in ten minutes. For the few minutes, nobody spoke. By the end, Amora was the last one still standing when everyone else started moving for the door. "I'm not coming yet," she said. Thistle stopped. "Vicsen needs to know about Sakon," Amora said. "The Dreamers. The Manor. If I leave without telling him, he goes into this loop the same way he went into the last two. He deserves better than that." "Amora." Thistle looked at her. "Amora, where are you going?" "To find the Commander." She smiled. "I've done this twice now, remember?" Thistle was quiet for a moment. "Come back soon, alright? It's not going to be safe for much longer." "I'll come back." She meant it. It would cost something to mean it, but she meant it. "I promise. I'll be by your side by midnight." She looked at Thistle a beat longer than she needed to. There was something she'd been holding onto — the right words for the right moment, not this one, a quieter one, one that felt earned. She was sure that moment would come. She was saving it for when it did. She slipped out the front door into the last light of the Carnival. Thistle watched the door, then turned back to the room. Departing the West Gate before sunset was easy. The guards were watching the crowds moving toward the square, not the smaller group moving away from it. The gates were still open for the last arrivals trickling in from Termina Field. Nobody looked twice at twenty plus people heading west, the Happy Mask Salesman at the front with a canvas bag over one shoulder and his smile pointed forward. Ap came through last. She looked back once — Clock Town lit up behind her, the banners out, the clock tower turning toward the hour — then faced west. The road curved toward the coast. The sky above the water was orange and fading. She walked. The moon, not yet falling, watching curiously overhead. The ocarina at her hip. Two days left. Commander Vicsen Quote Coming soon... (10) coco: TJ, Stick, Divergent, Wahrheit, Wonko, Mistfallen, Ash, Burnt, Archer, TUM, (4) Burnt: Araris, Drake, Doc, coco, @coco.pudding / Amora never caught up with the Wayward Few and was removed from the Loop! The Postman's Hat is now donned and Night PMs may be sent to be delivered next Day. The Happy Mask Salesman Quote No Blue Masks Remain in Stock! Name $ Description Uses Bremen Mask 5 While donned, summon a flock of cuccos to cancel the vote of 1 player (Day Action) or block the action of 1 player (Night Action). 2x Bunny Hood* 5 Passively multiples the number of Rupees earned by 1.5x. ~ Don Gero Mask 5 While donned, if you are targeted by any player, this Mask will alert you of all their identities (Night Action). 2x Postman’s Hat* 5 Passively enables Postman’s Service and earns +1 Rupee for each unique player that is delivered a message. ~ Blast Mask** 20 While donned, if you are targeted by any action, kill you and every player that targets you. **1x Per Game Captain’s Hat* 20 Passively allows you access to the current Loop’s Dead Doc. ~ Mask of Scents 20 While donned, discover a player’s target (Night Action). 2x Romani Mask 20 While donned, if you are killed by any means, drink an ice cold glass of Romani milk to delay your death by 1 turn (Day/Night Passive). ~ Circus Leader Mask 50 While donned, summon the Circus to steal a random Mask from the target player (Night Action). 1x Gibdo Mask 50 While donned, if you are killed by any means, become a zombie that can only post during the Nights. Gibdos can vote at Night to count on the next day. Gibdos do not count for Boss Mask parity at Loop’s end. ~ Keaton Mask 50 While donned, redirect either a vote (Day Action) or action (Night Action) of a player to another target. 2x Stone Mask 50 While donned, become an untargetable object. No actions can affect you, including votes. Once put on it cannot be removed. ~ Great Fairy Mask 100 While donned, resurrect a single player (Night Action). 1x Mask of Truth 100 While donned, discover a player’s alignment (Night Action). 1x Fierce Deity Mask** 200 When donned, your team wins the current Loop (or Game if Final Day). **1x Per Game Player List 0 Amanuensis Happy Mask Apprentice, AKA 'Ap' 1 @The Unknown Order Heroshi 2 @Araris Valerian Arenta 3 @Wahrheitswächter Wahi 4 @Ashbringer Coliver 5 @coco.pudding Amora 6 @|TJ| Cosmetica 7 @Stick. meeee 8 @Haelbarde Link the Goron 9 @Wonko the Sane Zymni 10 @Doc12 Thistle 11 @Burnt Spaghetti Cindra 12 @DrakeMarshall Squircle 13 @Mistfallen Soldier Kieran 14 @Divergent Gor Elam the Goron 15 @Archer Ouae the Zora 16 @Hoid Slayer Avery ED1T: Sorry, the Masks were not correct at first, removed two more. Edited March 13 by Amanuensis 2
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I forgot rollover time switched due to daylight savings and was shocked when I returned to the thread and day had already ended aaa I will hopefully finish backreading D3/N3B either this phase or start of next phase, and have more thoughts to share 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Alright, who did it You weren't able to get the mask? 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Alright, who did it The options are Doc and Burnt(if she was lying about having scents. @Doc12 @Burnt Spaghetti wanna speak up? I’m leaning Doc fyi, we know he could have gotten it, plus if he went for a different purple mask there would be another purple missing Edit: what are people’s thoughts on a Coco/Doc/Burnt Elim team? Edited March 11 by Mistfallen Soldier
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 if Burnt got it after all y’alls maths I reserve the right to meme on u I will note that possession of the Stone Mask is not in of itself alignment indicative, since both villagers and elims with 50+ rupees should’ve been bidding for it. However I’m also a pessimist. 2
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 20 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: The options are Doc and Burnt(if she was lying about having scents. @Doc12 @Burnt Spaghetti wanna speak up? I’m leaning Doc fyi, we know he could have gotten it, plus if he went for a different purple mask there would be another purple missing Edit: what are people’s thoughts on a Coco/Doc/Burnt Elim team? That's one of my potential teams. I'd need to revisit Doc though, since from up to what I reread (N2B), there wasn't really anything that stood out as suspicious. If there was anything, I'd say it's the lack of a stronger push for the people he suspected to go (which was unlike his behavior in MR75), seeing how his main pushes tend to not get executed 15 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: if Burnt got it after all y’alls maths I reserve the right to meme on u I will note that possession of the Stone Mask is not in of itself alignment indicative, since both villagers and elims with 50+ rupees should’ve been bidding for it. However I’m also a pessimist. Wouldn't it have been better only for Ash to take it (from the village side)? Since if you're one of the unconfirmed village, it'd just make you look very suspicious 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 24 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: if Burnt got it after all y’alls maths I reserve the right to meme on u I will note that possession of the Stone Mask is not in of itself alignment indicative, since both villagers and elims with 50+ rupees should’ve been bidding for it. However I’m also a pessimist. She may not, and I don’t think she does, I just put her as an option because I don’t trust her scents mask claim 9 minutes ago, Divergent said: That's one of my potential teams. I'd need to revisit Doc though, since from up to what I reread (N2B), there wasn't really anything that stood out as suspicious. If there was anything, I'd say it's the lack of a stronger push for the people he suspected to go (which was unlike his behavior in MR75), seeing how his main pushes tend to not get executed Wouldn't it have been better only for Ash to take it (from the village side)? Since if you're one of the unconfirmed village, it'd just make you look very suspicious Well, Doc could be attempting to do what I did(I’m 90% sure he has it) and forcing us to hit the right people, but we’ll wait for his explanation
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 We could play around it like a hidden immunity idol in Survivor and split our votes on two of the suspected elim, so that even if the mask is donned, we could still take out an elim (this does require a much higher accuracy in figuring out the elim team)
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Divergent said: We could play around it like a hidden immunity idol in Survivor and split our votes on two of the suspected elim, so that even if the mask is donned, we could still take out an elim (this does require a much higher accuracy in figuring out the elim team) I feel pretty confident Doc has it, so I don’t think we need to do that. I think right now the best option is to vote Burnt when we can
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, Divergent said: Wouldn't it have been better only for Ash to take it (from the village side)? Since if you're one of the unconfirmed village, it'd just make you look very suspicious I mean sure, if you want the elims having a 3/4 chance of getting it instead of a 3/6
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I mean sure, if you want the elims having a 3/4 chance of getting it instead of a 3/6 I'm not sure these numbers are right? I think only you, Mistfallen, Doc, and Burnt could have bought it (Burnt buying it depends on whether she was the one who bought Mask of Scents or an elim teammate) (Coco got exe'd, I don't think Hael and TwinStorm have the funds for it, most of the other players died on Loop 2 and resurrected with 20 rupees) And in this pool of players, there's 1-2 elims (I still think it's 2). So, I guess I do agree with there being a benefit for the villager in that group (Mist, Doc, Burnt) to try to get it. But for said benefit to really apply, you'd also need to be confident that you could convince people that you are villager and did it with villager motivation. So, I feel like the con, which is that you're going to look more suspicious outweighs the benefit here.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 24 minutes ago, Divergent said: We could play around it like a hidden immunity idol in Survivor and split our votes on two of the suspected elim, so that even if the mask is donned, we could still take out an elim (this does require a much higher accuracy in figuring out the elim team) The problem is that one of those should realistically be Burnt, but Burnt only dies if she's village/not lying about MoS. Hmm. Oh. We can just make Burnt the second most votes, that way, she — and nevermind I'm stupid I don't think this is very reliable tbh, we should just rely on figuring out the Stone Mask through PMs imo. Post about how to do that coming either after someone posts or in the morning for that sweet sweet money
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Divergent said: I'm not sure these numbers are right? I think only you, Mistfallen, Doc, and Burnt could have bought it (Burnt buying it depends on whether she was the one who bought Mask of Scents or an elim teammate) (Coco got exe'd, I don't think Hael and TwinStorm have the funds for it, most of the other players died on Loop 2 and resurrected with 20 rupees) And in this pool of players, there's 1-2 elims (I still think it's 2). So, I guess I do agree with there being a benefit for the villager in that group (Mist, Doc, Burnt) to try to get it. But for said benefit to really apply, you'd also need to be confident that you could convince people that you are villager and did it with villager motivation. So, I feel like the con, which is that you're going to look more suspicious outweighs the benefit here. I could not have gotten it, Ash could’ve gotten it, Doc could, and Burnt is a maybe. That’s why I think Doc has it
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Divergent said: I'm not sure these numbers are right? I think only you, Mistfallen, Doc, and Burnt could have bought it (Burnt buying it depends on whether she was the one who bought Mask of Scents or an elim teammate) (Coco got exe'd, I don't think Hael and TwinStorm have the funds for it, most of the other players died on Loop 2 and resurrected with 20 rupees) And in this pool of players, there's 1-2 elims (I still think it's 2). So, I guess I do agree with there being a benefit for the villager in that group (Mist, Doc, Burnt) to try to get it. But for said benefit to really apply, you'd also need to be confident that you could convince people that you are villager and did it with villager motivation. So, I feel like the con, which is that you're going to look more suspicious outweighs the benefit here. Coco counts for calculations last turn, though that's still only 5 Edit: Ninja’d while replying to a ninja 1 minute ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I could not have gotten it, Ash could’ve gotten it, Doc could, and Burnt is a maybe. That’s why I think Doc has it You could be lying about getting MoS l1, no? Edited March 11 by The Unknown Medallion
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Coco counts for calculations last turn, though that's still only 5 Edit: Ninja’d while replying to a ninja You could be lying about getting MoS l1, no? True. I’m starting to believe that Burnt had the mask loop 2, but there isn’t really a reason to believe me on loop 1. Because I bought mine N1A, it wouldn’t show up as bought in the shop because the shop wasn’t available D2 onwards. That said, I claimed the mask pretty early in the loop, so logistically it’d be hard to do. Honestly though, it just comes down to whether you think I’m telling the truth. That said, I’m buying a purple mask tonight, I’ve put the buy-request in
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I could not have gotten it, Ash could’ve gotten it, Doc could, and Burnt is a maybe. That’s why I think Doc has it Did you put in any bids or got a mask on loop 2 btw? 15 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Coco counts for calculations last turn, though that's still only 5 Edit: Ninja’d while replying to a ninja You could be lying about getting MoS l1, no? A person who puts in a bid on the same phase that they get executed in is not factored in when masks are distributed, so that's why she's not included there
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Okay, so this should be more than enough discussion posts so I don't need to keep splitting it up. PM strategy: Stone Mask wearer cannot receive PMs (equip comes before receipt). Therefore, someone (well, multiple people preferably all three of me, Ash, Wahr) needs to PM everyone who could ever possibly have gotten the Mask a unique player-specific codeword. The Postman is also told that these PMs couldn't be sent, so we have a four way authentication. I don't know if it's possible Rupee wise, but the Postman may also be the Stone Mask holder, but that should be obvious when no PMs are delivered. There's just one more problem. @Amanuensis, can they put on the Stone Mask in the day to avoid that very exe? That seems to be what the OoA says, but I would like to argue that votes would still technically be placed before the player became untargetable, meaning that they either die to the exe or survive the exe without second place dying. Just now, Divergent said: Did you put in any bids or got a mask on loop 2 btw? A person who puts in a bid on the same phase that they get executed in is not factored in when masks are distributed, so that's why she's not included there Yes, but my point is that wasn't the relevant math when people were putting their actions in
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Divergent said: Did you put in any bids or got a mask on loop 2 btw? A person who puts in a bid on the same phase that they get executed in is not factored in when masks are distributed, so that's why she's not included there So D1B I tried for the Dongoro mask. N1B I tried for Romani. I got neither. 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Okay, so this should be more than enough discussion posts so I don't need to keep splitting it up. PM strategy: Stone Mask wearer cannot receive PMs (equip comes before receipt). Therefore, someone (well, multiple people preferably all three of me, Ash, Wahr) needs to PM everyone who could ever possibly have gotten the Mask a unique player-specific codeword. The Postman is also told that these PMs couldn't be sent, so we have a four way authentication. I don't know if it's possible Rupee wise, but the Postman may also be the Stone Mask holder, but that should be obvious when no PMs are delivered. There's just one more problem. @Amanuensis, can they put on the Stone Mask in the day to avoid that very exe? That seems to be what the OoA says, but I would like to argue that votes would still technically be placed before the player became untargetable, meaning that they either die to the exe or survive the exe without second place dying. Yes, but my point is that wasn't the relevant math when people were putting their actions in Yes, I asked, if they equip the mask tomorrow instead of tonight, it will equip before the exe(or in this case the NK if they equip tonight) and survive. I asked in my PM
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 9 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Yes, but my point is that wasn't the relevant math when people were putting their actions in I think it was looking like we were going to execute within those 4 day 1 and there was very little chance of it being Hael/Twin, so it would have always been 1 down by the end of the phase But anyways, I can see your point (if people forgot about executed not being eligible to get masks or if people were thinking it might have been a different outcome) 5 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: So D1B I tried for the Dongoro mask. N1B I tried for Romani. I got neither. Yes, I asked, if they equip the mask tomorrow instead of tonight, it will equip before the exe(or in this case the NK if they equip tonight) and survive. I asked in my PM You had 17 rupees D1B and then got to 20 something N1B? So that tracks
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Yes, I asked, if they equip the mask tomorrow instead of tonight, it will equip before the exe(or in this case the NK if they equip tonight) and survive. I asked in my PM That is quite irritating. I wonder if it's even worth exing within the Mask candidates tomorrow. Maybe Aman will like my logic and change his mind though
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Divergent said: I think it was looking like we were going to execute within those 4 day 1 and there was very little chance of it being Hael/Twin, so it would have always been 1 down by the end of the phase But anyways, I can see your point (if people forgot about executed not being eligible to get masks or if people were thinking it might have been a different outcome) You had 17 rupees D1B and then got to 20 something N1B? So that tracks 20 exactly, I had 13 during the day, and earned 7 so I had 20 during the night. If you check my posts you’ll see that’s what I’ve been doing. Earning 7 during the day to get to a multiple of 10(50 now) and then in the night I get my last 3 from Rp Edit: if you want I can lay out my rupee count at every day/night of the game if you want to understand it Edited March 11 by Mistfallen Soldier
Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: 20 exactly, I had 13 during the day, and earned 7 so I had 20 during the night. If you check my posts you’ll see that’s what I’ve been doing. Earning 7 during the day to get to a multiple of 10(50 now) and then in the night I get my last 3 from Rp I see. In my mind, I was thinking 10 as starting fund + 30 from meeting requirements in Loop 1 - 20 from Mask of Scents - 3 PMs = 17. Did you send a PM with more than 100 characters?
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Divergent said: I see. In my mind, I was thinking 10 as starting fund + 30 from meeting requirements in Loop 1 - 20 from Mask of Scents - 3 PMs = 17. Did you send a PM with more than 100 characters? Multiple. I sent three PMs in total. One to Doc that costed me 1. One to Archer that costed 2, and a final one to Doc that costed me 4 1
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