Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, neil the beguiled said: i thought thered be enough people there to get a ravenclaw yeet instead bc i thought raven had better chances as scum. its kinda that shrimple??? About this part- you seemed to have a townread on both Archer and Aeoryi at the time you called out for people to break the (what i assume based on this votecount and the votes prior) 2/2/2 tie between archer/ash/Aeoryi (whats the deal with the a names i-) Why didn't you vote ash there when you didn't want to kill Archer and Aeoryi? EDIT: also this is completely unrelated but wrt to the bucket strat neil I always saw that as a very MU champs season uhhhh 8? idk whatever season I played, no clue what we're on now. 10? i think? but it was specifically not to mass claim the prs so that doc could protect but to massclaim PRs (there were 3) so that we could have an immediate 3 confirmed towns on D1 which narrowed the pool immensely Edited December 21, 2023 by Ooklil the Wei
neil the beguiled Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said: About this part- you seemed to have a townread on both Archer and Aeoryi at the time you called out for people to break the (what i assume based on this votecount and the votes prior) 2/2/2 tie between archer/ash/Aeoryi (whats the deal with the a names i-) Why didn't you vote ash there when you didn't want to kill Archer and Aeoryi? felt like a shruglunch and ash issnt baudib1. xD uh but ash was one of the lowposters i didnt have a read on and i thought raven was more sus and i could get a wagon there made /shrug i dunno youre probably right i should have just hopped on but after i made the ravenclaw wagon it'd be hypocritical of me consideringt aht would have made it tie/rand. but fmpov i thought i could get a consolidation on ravenclaw who i actively sr but i didnt
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, neil the beguiled said: felt like a shruglunch and ash issnt baudib1. xD weeeeelll.... EDIT: Another completely maybe not completely unrelated but it was weird to me how you never contradicted any comment on me knowing your meta better, with how you are more familiar with me simply because you've spec'd turbos I've played Also votes aren't locked, Neil. Try voting...just a little. EDIT: Also hope the organizers know you're repping because ur not on the spreadsheet, but i guess neither is FoL and they're technically sending someone, even tho today is the last day to submit. Edited December 21, 2023 by Ooklil the Wei
neil the beguiled Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Ooklil the Wei said: weeeeelll.... EDIT: Another completely maybe not completely unrelated but it was weird to me how you never contradicted any comment on me knowing your meta better, with how you are more familiar with me simply because you've spec'd turbos I've played the ELIM was BAUDIB1??????????? didnt i? i think i mentioned only playing with you once or so. and ill be honest when i host turbos i only pay attention enough to post fish pictures at night xD. but i could have sworn i said smth about it bc i remember thinking about that (er, our game proximity) earlier
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Also this is only a valid point sometimes but this interaction with Neil is potentially proving it an Elim in a way, simply for how i feel no suspicion on me at the moment despite me being his push for today.
neil the beguiled Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said: Also this is only a valid point sometimes but this interaction with Neil is potentially proving it an Elim in a way, simply for how i feel no suspicion on me at the moment despite me being his push for today. what do you mean? what about my interaction with you makes you think i dont suspect you? is it my overuse of "x3" xD? wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i am relaxed, i am playful :P. lets play illwei!!!!!!! edit: i feel compelled to say this but like. i want to be right here about illwei. i think illwei is the illweivil here. i think the fact that shes pushing at tkn here the way she is while still asserting im evil too is an attempt to get tkn miselimed over her. also i wanted to touch on a comment kas made wrt feeling bad with an elim illwei. i like being right but not like that ig. evil illwei re-enforced the idea of a sleeper elim team as i suspected earlier on, and regardless of my suspicion its still something to feel bad abt ig? its irregardless to the outcome of the game but like. weh edit2: pls someone post tho idt i can be here at eod and i dont wanna edit in my vote atp Edited December 21, 2023 by neil the beguiled
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 I'll make a post but i don't have much to say since i've said everything i think both you and tkn pushing the "keeping options open" is wild since it's e/lo and it's not like it's obvious. both you and tkn are pushing me and the one of the main reasons i was v!leaning tkn here was because he decided not to go for the easy push. I want to be right on neil simply because then I've had good reads this game. I was hoping that anyone would say anything more on me but neil not voting idk
neil the beguiled Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 ty queen illwei (ooklil the wei) i mean. eh. i dont think im wrong here.
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 I also think this eod is interesting because the best that can happen is a tied vote with the Elim atp
The Unknown Character he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Kasimir said: re-read your E games when re-introducing you into the suspect pool, so it's interesting you're assuming here I didn't when revising on you - you're off your V and E meta it's hard enough to tell, but I redid LG97 and the slog that was QF64 in order to read your E games, so yes, I'm coming from the position it's within parameters, and then did a side of LG89 (E!JNV, V!you) and QF66 (E!JNV, V!you) to doublecheck. I didn't assume you didn't, just was giving that game specifically. I think that I fall into the meta demonstrated by the Shard game and KKC far more than how I played in QF64 (that's inactive team QF I believe). Maybe you disagree on that but that's how it feels. 8 hours ago, Kasimir said: that your position hadn't changed, even when challenged on it. Except my position has been morphing this entire time. That initial analysis posited Neil only in a v!JNV world, which I reconsidered. I came into that cycle sussing Aeoryi, then realized the vote state just didn't back that up (I was right). Illwei was technically initially an alternative to Ash that I discarded because of her entrance. I would have been content to read her V on that if her vote on me hadn't triggered so many alarm bells. 8 hours ago, Kasimir said: Could you? Aman and I were already on Ash and calling for an Ash shot out of frustration and the fact Ash was hiding. You weren't the determining factor IMO - it was Aman's insistence on resolving Ash. Do you genuinely believe you could hide Ash beyond a call for the SK to help us resolve Ash, given just general determination to stop waiting on Ash to re-appear? Keep in mind Aman had been voting Ash for three cycles by that point, occasionally stopped by Aeo. And does E!you have any other option at that point? It's a four vote train on JNV and it wasn't going anywhere. JNV was bussed, whether passively or actively. This is a fact, because the game hasn't ended with Coffee's flip. I realize that I might not have accomplished, but do I actually throw extra shade on one of my teammates while voting the other? I don't bus, like, ever, because people like you can just tell. I don't think e!me would defend Ash/JNV either, but I certainly wouldn't be shading and voting them. That's not how I roll. Yeah, I do have another option. Apathy. I could have stayed on, or I could have switched, why would I switch to bus, something that I expressly hate doing. 9 hours ago, Kasimir said: Ookla the Bald - Maybe let's do it this way. Can you link me to two Village games which you believe demonstrate the amount of effort you put in when Village? Shard game and KKC, mechanics bring out the best in me. I don't even think I've put as much effort in this game as those, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find e!me putting in this much analyzing effort. I don't like how swayed I am, I want to vote Neil again. Ugh. I think there's reasons to both sides, like I really hate that vote from Illwei, it feels so wrong. Oh fine I'm just going to do it. Neil.
Mat he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Author Posted December 21, 2023 One hour remaining. Illwei/Ooklil (1): neil the beguiled neil the beguiled (2): Kasimir, The Known Novel/Bald The Known Novel/Bald (1): Illwei/Ooklil
Kasimir he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Here's mine: it is ungodly early and I have reread everything. Staying on Neil. Lurch order has been sent in with sacrifices to RNGesus and prayers to Holy Gamma, god of Lurchers. Goodnight all I want sleep.
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Neil Was hoping for some sort of movement from neil, hoping that we still have tomorrow if we hit wrong here
neil the beguiled Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) mobile posting so i cannot sans but good luck tomorrow if you make it. edit: nvm actually i’m not wishing you good luck. i’m just right here i think. sorry you can’t see that edit2: sorry the pettiness overtook me and i’m annoyed bc i said i’d be gone at eod Edited December 21, 2023 by neil the beguiled
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) TKN Edited December 21, 2023 by Ooklil the Wei
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Neil EDIT: TKN stats maybe Edited December 21, 2023 by Ooklil the Wei forgot to write edit
Mat he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Author Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) MR67: Aftermath: A Successful Lurch Once Kasim returned, the remaining SErs gathered together, circling up like they had at the beginning of this convention. Before this madness had begun. Though Mat supposed that it had begun the moment he'd helped suggest and set up this SE meetup. In a lot of ways, he blamed himself for what had happened to everyone. But he knew that was the wrong way of looking at things. He never could have known, never could have done anything more to stop it. He joined the circle, though everyone knew he was innocent. That last death note had most definitely come from one of the four standing around him. He looked them over, one by one. Kasim was certainly good; he had given so much to rid the convention of the killers. And the grief on his face was as genuine as Mat had ever seen. Not to mention him being the literal Brandon Sanderson. TKN refused to meet his-- or anyone's-- eyes, but Mat didn't think that meant anything. He was as unreadable in real life as he was on the forums. Illwei, on the other hand, studied everyone else one by one, analyzing for an unknowable purpose. She had arrived late to the convention, but not late enough to prove innocence. And then there was neil, who Mat knew nothing about. Did anyone know anything about neil? Mat felt the tension in the room shift, focusing on the newcomer. He wasn't the only one who had come to that realization. They'd accepted neil's words when he had said that he was a friend of Stick's, and he clearly knew Illwei from previous encounters. But he'd seemed genuinely terrified when he'd seen her walk in the room. In a flash, neil's arm snapped forward, suddenly clutching a knife he must had produced from within his trench coat. But the knife's progress was stopped as Kasim grabbed neil's hand and slapped it away in a perfectly executed disarming. "No," he growled. "No one else dies. Not at my convention." neil gulped. But said nothing. "That's what I thought," Kasim said. "You're coming with me." --- Once neil had been detained, Kasim stood by Mat, TKN, and Illwei on the streets of Salt Lake City, staring at the convention center that had housed nightmares for the past weekend. At a huge cost, it was now over. "I want to thank you," Kasim said, "for defending the con these past days." "You did a lot, too," Illwei pointed out. "I honestly still wasn't sure of neil at the end there." Kasim shook his head. "It was a team effort. Because of you, my work can continue. Those murderers had it out for me. I couldn't have borne the knowledge that my stories would go untold, but now I don't have to." It was only then that Mat fully registered that Brandon Sanderson was standing next to him. His favorite author, the reason he was here at all, the reason he knew any of these SErs, right there. He almost asked for an autograph. But it didn't feel right. "Will there be a Dragonsteel 2025?" Mat asked instead. He couldn't imagine the lawsuits the Dragonsteel company would be facing. But Kasim-- Brandon-- only smiled, and shrugged. "If we can manage it. I still have stories to tell, after all, and there are those who want to hear them. But if not, the books will still be there." He paused, scratching his chin. "But there is one thing." "What's that?" TKN asked. "We're going to need much better security." * * * neil the beguiled was removed from the convention! He was a Crazed SEr! Kasimir was attacked, but survived! Vote Count: Illwei/Ooklil (1): neil the beguiled neil the beguiled (2): Kasimir, The Known Novel/Bald The Known Novel/Bald (1): Illwei/Ooklil The game is over! Congratulations to the Reasonable SErs for defending Dragonsteel 2024 and ridding the Salt Palace of its various insane people! Though there is some writing scrawled in the parking garage that needs to be pressure-washed off... The Convention Game has a two-way tie for its winners! @Archer, with two points, who completed his task before his opponent as well as guessed their identity, and @JNV, with two points, who successfully guessed their opponent as well as figuring out that Ash and Aeoryi were paired against each other! Second place is awarded to the 7 players with one point, and the bronze medal can be split between those with none Thank you to everyone who participated in this game! And special extra thanks to @Elandera for answering my questions, keeping the peace, and being the IM this game needed. I'll post GM thoughts later, probably tomorrow but potentially tonight. I have some things about the distro I want to shout out, and general thoughts about the balance and mechanics. It wasn't too complicated so there isn't a lot to say, but if anyone has thoughts about it now's the time to say them Doc Links: Master Sheet Dead/Spec Doc Elim Doc SK Doc Convention Game Full Rules Player List: Spoiler @TheRavenHasLanded - Reasonable SEr @The Wandering Wizard - Wizzy - Reasonable SEr @Ookla the Bald / The Known Novel - Shane Huge - Reasonable SEr @Archer- Reasonable SEr @Winnie the Pookla / Araris Valerian - Reasonable SEr @Aeoryi - Reasonable SEr @Ravenclawjedi42 - Reasonable SEr @WildKarrde / Kasim - (@Kasimir) - Brandon Sanderson @JNV - Crazed SEr @Devotary of Spontaneity - Lena - Reasonable SEr @Ooklil the Wei / Illwei (@TheOokla929 / TheAlpha929) - Reasonable SEr @Coffeecat - Ballistic SEr @neil the beguiled - Crazed SEr @Amanuensis - Reasonable SEr @Ashbringer - Crazed SEr @Cash67 - Reasonable SEr Edited December 21, 2023 by Mat 6
Illwei Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 lol ok Neil why wouldn't you vote tkn there is my question 1
Ookla de los Cuervos he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 jnv must confess their sins/j 1
Mat he/him Posted December 21, 2023 Author Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Just now, Ooklil the Wei said: lol ok Neil why wouldn't you vote tkn there is my question Because he was nice to me and could sense that I'd spent an hour prewriting this aftermath post D:. Edited December 21, 2023 by Mat 3
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