Frustration Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I probably would have voted there anyway, because I have a DeTess/Frustration team theory, but Mark's vote certainly didn't hurt. I'm not :eyes: The fact that you voted wasn't out of left field, but who it was on felt that way. From your play so far I hadn't expected the kind of vote you gave. Fortunately I have records of my thoughts from before voting.... Wait! On 10/9/2023 at 11:22 AM, Frustration said: Everyone is jumping to accuse someone, so I can't get anything there. Honestly this is a lot harder when you can't see faces... XP seems trustworthy, going for the cautious route of avoiding helping the Elims, while DeTess seems to downplay the risk of helping them... I'm still not sure enough to vote any which way. I picked the wrong person! I'm an idiot.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Frustration said: I'm an idiot. Welcome to the club. You get used to it after the fourth or fifth game.
Frustration Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: Welcome to the club. You get used to it after the fourth or fifth game. I think I deserve to be the president for that one. On 10/9/2023 at 1:29 AM, DeTess said: I don't like this comment. It seems intended to discourage vanillagers from using the action they have, which in turn nerfs any village mages. Meanwhile, any elim mages will have built in support from any vanillas in their team. For now, experience. Turns out it's really easy to find the post you're looking for when you have the right person.
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 I have to say, Frustration accidentally not voting for DeTess puts a damper on my theory Or supports it You decide?
JNV Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Ok Im just going to reread the day turn see if I get any thoughts Complaint thouhgts did anyone actually do a complaint day turn wise cause if so guess theyre unannuonced if not maybe we should try putting one on see how that turns out visually also yeah the emoticons are definitily an 'in game' indicator and Im taking everything they sya as limited or just wrong sidebar the emoticons are pretty cute though good on you for that Archers immediate trusting of the GM is like maybe a tad bit hm cause like I dont know whe nI was ffirst reading it the emoticons made me hestitate a bit but eh I feel fine abotu them otherwise good PM vibes sorta thing might be hindsight bias Aeoryis proccupation with dying is like a little weird like not necessarily evil weird just weird like I coudl give a whole spiel about how the goal of a villager isnt to live necessarily About my GM vote listen my pet theory is the GMs afflicted like look at all those emoticons weird right cute but weird plus it was a valid vote voting the GM does something so yeah but oh well Ill try to actually vote suspicions next time instead of half joking
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, JNV said: Archers immediate trusting of the GM is like maybe a tad bit hm Are we reading the same game? xD Archer said that he complained against Szeth and it counted for his one per two cycles
JNV Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Are we reading the same game? xD Archer said that he complained against Szeth and it counted for his one per two cycles Plot twist my reading comprehension is trash and I missed that my bad
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 Two hours left to get actions and votes in!
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, JNV said: Ok Im just going to reread the day turn see if I get any thoughts Complaint thouhgts did anyone actually do a complaint day turn wise cause if so guess theyre unannuonced if not maybe we should try putting one on see how that turns out visually also yeah the emoticons are definitily an 'in game' indicator and Im taking everything they sya as limited or just wrong sidebar the emoticons are pretty cute though good on you for that Archers immediate trusting of the GM is like maybe a tad bit hm cause like I dont know whe nI was ffirst reading it the emoticons made me hestitate a bit but eh I feel fine abotu them otherwise good PM vibes sorta thing might be hindsight bias Aeoryis proccupation with dying is like a little weird like not necessarily evil weird just weird like I coudl give a whole spiel about how the goal of a villager isnt to live necessarily About my GM vote listen my pet theory is the GMs afflicted like look at all those emoticons weird right cute but weird plus it was a valid vote voting the GM does something so yeah but oh well Ill try to actually vote suspicions next time instead of half joking I mean I'm really not opposed to being NK'd tonight it would be refreshing 5 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: Archer dodged DeTess' question, noted. Sure Village reads-- Aeoryi: I actually agree that they're playing differently from their first game, but given I aggressively pushed them at the start of the turn that sort of makes sense to me. I don't like their voting patterns, but again from their PoV it makes some sense. The main reason for my read, though, is their response to my accusation-- they shut down, immediately gave up, and gave off a sense of annoyance that I think follows a villager mindset much more than an elim one. Them later citing Exp's misdirection as a reason to vote him I think also follows this villager mindset. I'm slightly skeptical of that last part though because someone said that it was Aeoryi's idea to gambit around me? @Aeoryi can you clear up exactly who's plan it was to do the gambit around PMing me JNV: PM vibes. They've been free with info and nice to chat with, if a bit inactive >> I don't like the Szeth vote, honestly, but early interactions look good imo Archer: Been solvy in PMs and I like the angles he's been pushing in thread. I think Araris is right in that elims probably wouldn't launch into trying to exe the GM, and I think Archer's hyperfocus on that is a village mindset. PoE-- Experience: Had him in my PoE because I really wasn't sure, but I don't think I ever was going to vote him. PM vibes were mostly good and I trusted Archer's PM vibes as well. I think I also had him in my PoE because I didn't love his reaction to my accusation, but that obviously was a bad read :joy: DeTess: I disagreed with your reason to vote Exp, mostly, so it was kind of a Mark sheep. I thought Exp's statement was fair, and that it was obvious he wasn't advocating not passing magic altogether and instead was just noting the possibility of giving the elims more power, which is an understandable worry imo. I preferred your exe to Exp's and while I was mildly interested in what would happen if Szeth got exed I wasn't going to vote there, so tying it up seemed like the best choice given my Exp paranoia and my read of you. Frustration: I hate when people read people as elim because "it seems like they're being coached" but it kiiiinda feels like Frustration is being coached xD His Aeoryi vote just felt so out of left field and I don't think his explanation for it actually made sense. I just don't know where it came from. @Frustration can you respond to this post please and thank you TKN: Threw him in there because of engagement (or lack thereof). No real read but I feel like he should play more Speaking of which @STINK glad you're feeling better but can you backread and make some reads, that'd be great to do thanks! :D. :D. :D. Anyway hopefully that helps, I gtg go do calc now unfortunately, have fun yall It was more of Exp: hey yo wanna do a Gambit Me: yeah sure I already mentioned (gambit stuff) to mat so yeah Exp: okay Literally mat seconds later: do you have a PM with exp
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, JNV said: Plot twist my reading comprehension is trash and I missed that my bad The “are we reading the same game” bit was specifically directed at you saying Archer trusted Szeth too quick when like the opposite happened but yeah 48 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: It was more of Exp: hey yo wanna do a Gambit Me: yeah sure I already mentioned (gambit stuff) to mat so yeah Exp: okay Literally mat seconds later: do you have a PM with exp That was because Exp two seconds after saying okay must have PMd me asking the same thing you did :P.
JNV Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: The “are we reading the same game” bit was specifically directed at you saying Archer trusted Szeth too quick when like the opposite happened but yeah Listen I was just typing my thoughts as I was reading D1 without like future thinking and that part was talking about Archer being like oh complaints are a community driven moderation tool so its more like I dont know more like Archer bought in quickly which eh but also yeah I didnt see the complaint part so thats cool since Szeth is still a valid vote Id assume theyre valid compalint target
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) I did see and somewhat ask Frustration about voting for someone other than who his analysis suggested, but it was late enough in the cycle that he probably didn't see. I would expect a theoretical elim teammate of Frustration's to have noticed suspecting DeTess but voting Aeoryi though, and if it was a DeTess-Frustration team it seems easier to just not suspect DeTess in a way that would get brought up eventually. Two members of House Carnation dead, with no evidence pointing to a cause for the first. Cale took the opportunity to contact Lian. "How's everyone doing?" Lian existed far more harmoniously than most Mindmagi, an approach Calephor still doubted would work on a scale suitable for Archmagi, but with only three people xe showed no signs of struggling to act in concert. "Little to report. No Rose knew of Cochalis's mission." Phor especially was envious of that perfect symphony of voices. It wouldn't do to get too close to xer, as xe was ultimately a rival for the position of Archmagi, but that could easily be decades down the line. For the present, ellas took every opportunity to forge telepathic links with Lian. Only temporary links, for the techniques and power needed to create permanent ones like Cerrevan could was still beyond every other Azalea Mindmagi, but ellas had been practicing enough that this one could last the whole duration of this mission with barely any investiture needed for maintenance. "A Carnation scion died, no witnesses except the Floral. We were about to start questioning the other Carnation scions, but the first one we talked to was executed." "Crack! Just like Cochy, hmm. Somebody's hiding something!" "Somebody who can manipulate the Constables." "We'll investigate the constabulary. Cale?, Tanya, anything to add?" Phor sighed. Lian still thought, or hoped, that ellas would form a closer partnership with their subjugated headmates. She resented that they remained people at all instead of being fully cannibalized for their memories and experiences before fading away to nothing. Cale still felt merciful, if not kind, towards both ella brother who'd tried to kill ella repeatedly to become the only inhabitant of ellas body people had thought he was growing up, and the surveillance agent Cerrevan had given ellas that they could have used to break into ellas memories or even tried to control ellas body. Phor would never feel comfortable attempting Lian's more diplomatic approach. "Cale? says... Carnation's a Great House," Cale indulged Lian. "Not just the Floral who's got power to enact a conspiracy." "Even though your voices are the same, I can still tell it's you, Cale." Xe sounded amused, at least. "Working together won't make you less women. Thanks for the update. We'll take our leave." The telepathic link went silent. "Well! Let's find us a Carnation all sneaky-like. That's your cue." Edited October 11, 2023 by Devotary of Spontaneity Lian's voice effect doesn't work well with the Shard.
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 11, 2023 Author Posted October 11, 2023 The turn is over! Please stand by for the next one.
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 11, 2023 Author Posted October 11, 2023 LG97 Day Two: Fastening Myself to You with a Stitch “Link with me,” said a voice in the back of Calephor’s mind. Cale and Phor both cried out mentally, shocked at the casual invasion of ellas brainspace. “No. What? No!” Phor put herself together first, at least enough to manage that. “Who are you? How are you able to–” “Link with m-.” “No!” “Link with me.” Phor’s first moment of terror faded into bafflement. Cale kept panicking, thoughts of mental torture flashing through ellas mind. To Phor, though, the voice seemed to be just that: a voice. That still didn’t explain how it was able to invade ellas thoughts so easily, though. She had best proceed with caution. She took a deep breath, filling ella lungs with air and taking stock of ellas surroundings– ellas residence deep within House Azalea, familiar and comforting. It seemed to calm down Cale, too, at least momentarily. “Link with me,” the voice said again, insistent. “Why should I do that?” Phor mentally crossed her arms. “Link with me.” “But wh-” “If you don’t, I’ll kill you.” The thought came with a cold, biting sensation, reverberating like a gong through both Cale and Phor. “How would you do th-” “Link with me. If you don’t, I’ll kill you. Link with me. If you don’t, I’ll kill you. Link w-” “Shut up!” “--don’t, I’ll kill y–” “Shut. Up!” A burst of mental pain shot through Phor, like she was on fire, followed by utter, complete darkness. Phor tried to open their eyes, but she didn’t seem to have eyes wherever she was. She couldn’t sense Cale with her, either. The darkness stretched on, timeless and uncompromising. After what could have been seconds or years, or longer, her mind slowly began to fade, her thoughts making less and less sense as she slipped into oblivion. ------------- Devotary of Spontaneity was killed! She was Not Affected! Rise and shine! It's Day Two, and things are about to get exciting... >:3 The turn ends at 5:30 PM PDT on Thursday, October 12. Players: Spoiler @The Known Novel - Cain Abbel Experience: Not Affected @Matrim's Dice @Araris Valerian - Whamsy, who ran into a wall really hard one day, “WHAM!” and now thinks he’s a shard. @Aeoryi - AMBITION, who ran into a wall really hard one day and now believes she is a shard. @DeTess Devotary of Spontaneity - Calephor, a Mage of House Azalea: Not Affected @Archer - Aschu the Blessed @JNV - Jellin @Mark IV - Mark @Frustration @STINK 1
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Araris Valerian stab vote 12 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: LG97 Day Two: Fastening Myself to You with a Stitch “Link with me,” said a voice in the back of Calephor’s mind. Cale and Phor both cried out mentally, shocked at the casual invasion of ellas brainspace. “No. What? No!” Phor put herself together first, at least enough to manage that. “Who are you? How are you able to–” “Link with m-.” “No!” “Link with me.” Phor’s first moment of terror faded into bafflement. Cale kept panicking, thoughts of mental torture flashing through ellas mind. To Phor, though, the voice seemed to be just that: a voice. That still didn’t explain how it was able to invade ellas thoughts so easily, though. She had best proceed with caution. She took a deep breath, filling ella lungs with air and taking stock of ellas surroundings– ellas residence deep within House Azalea, familiar and comforting. It seemed to calm down Cale, too, at least momentarily. “Link with me,” the voice said again, insistent. “Why should I do that?” Phor mentally crossed her arms. “Link with me.” “But wh-” “If you don’t, I’ll kill you.” The thought came with a cold, biting sensation, reverberating like a gong through both Cale and Phor. “How would you do th-” “Link with me. If you don’t, I’ll kill you. Link with me. If you don’t, I’ll kill you. Link w-” “Shut up!” “--don’t, I’ll kill y–” “Shut. Up!” A burst of mental pain shot through Phor, like she was on fire, followed by utter, complete darkness. Phor tried to open their eyes, but she didn’t seem to have eyes wherever she was. She couldn’t sense Cale with her, either. The darkness stretched on, timeless and uncompromising. After what could have been seconds or years, or longer, her mind slowly began to fade, her thoughts making less and less sense as she slipped into oblivion. ------------- Devotary of Spontaneity was killed! She was Not Affected! Rise and shine! It's Day Two, and things are about to get exciting... >:3 The turn ends at 5:30 PM PDT on Thursday, October 12. Players: Hide contents @The Known Novel - Cain Abbel Experience: Not Affected @Matrim's Dice @Araris Valerian - Whamsy, who ran into a wall really hard one day, “WHAM!” and now thinks he’s a shard. @Aeoryi - AMBITION, who ran into a wall really hard one day and now believes she is a shard. @DeTess Devotary of Spontaneity - Calephor, a Mage of House Azalea: Not Affected @Archer - Aschu the Blessed @JNV - Jellin @Mark IV - Mark @Frustration @STINK "Things are going to get interesting..."
Mat he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Actually says exciting, not interesting But yeah that doesn’t bode well Devo is a weird kill. A really weird kill. Clearly low info, but maybe can glean something from isoing her. She voted Exp though. Honestly was planning on having her in prime PoE today but I guess I’ll start with TKN instead
Archer he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 I agree that Devo is a strange NK pick, largely because they had a framable vote. You could pursue the thread of them killing a villager with a late vote to get a mix off on them. My only thought is they weren't under much suspicion yet. Worth checking if anyone shaded them recently. I doubt an elim would do that. Village Reads TKN - Too bored to be evil Mat - seemed interested in solving the Aeoryi-Exp situation Araris - open with info early JNV - open with info early Aeoryi - suggested a gambit The Rest of Them DeTess - as Kas would say, lots of fear, uncertainty, doubt being spewed Mark -? Stink -? Frustration -! Definitely Evil Szeth - no explanation needed Detess
Mark IV he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Don't have much time right now, but I am interested in the reasoning behind your vote last cycle, @Araris Valerian. I'll be making a larger post in around 12 hours from now, so feel free to ask me anything until then.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: Actually says exciting, not interesting But yeah that doesn’t bode well Devo is a weird kill. A really weird kill. Clearly low info, but maybe can glean something from isoing her. She voted Exp though. Honestly was planning on having her in prime PoE today but I guess I’ll start with TKN instead >:(. Y u no like me Alright, for real this time, I should be more active from here on. Should have a good bit more time to do stuff. But I said that before, so we'll see.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: Actually says exciting, not interesting But yeah that doesn’t bode well Devo is a weird kill. A really weird kill. Clearly low info, but maybe can glean something from isoing her. She voted Exp though. Honestly was planning on having her in prime PoE today but I guess I’ll start with TKN instead okay, intel thoughts: either the elims have a scan or devo somehow admitted to have a scan. I mean, they pm'd me so i have reason to believe they're active pm Maybe that means scanning is a thing or maybe not. anyways the elims prob ate the tree or smth and got the charges to do something relevent. expect some vm or like maybe to have some one die mysteriously. I can see vote manip being used to cause choas so roleclaiming is very good ideas also people if everyone eats the tree is that potential clear? then elim cannot submit nk action smh?
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: also people if everyone eats the tree is that potential clear? then elim cannot submit nk action smh? This is often tried. It's inconsistent since people don't like being told what to do, it's kinda in bad faith, and the elims can just choose not to kill.
Mat he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: okay, intel thoughts: either the elims have a scan or devo somehow admitted to have a scan. I mean, they pm'd me so i have reason to believe they're active pm Maybe that means scanning is a thing or maybe not. Why would the elims having a scan have anything to do with why they killed Devo? That line of thought makes no sense to me. Devo isn’t usually a prolific PMer, either. Also I think mass roleclaiming is a very bad idea. People have useful roles. No point in telling the elims where they are. And because magic passing is a thing and there’s no way to check investiture levels, it’s ridiculously easy to say you tended the tree without actually doing it, so that just doesn’t work.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Why would the elims having a scan have anything to do with why they killed Devo? That line of thought makes no sense to me. Devo isn’t usually a prolific PMer, either. Also I think mass roleclaiming is a very bad idea. People have useful roles. No point in telling the elims where they are. And because magic passing is a thing and there’s no way to check investiture levels, it’s ridiculously easy to say you tended the tree without actually doing it, so that just doesn’t work. counterpoint 1: Players can change their playstyles. they are not set in stone Counterpoint 2: Mass roleclaiming worked in mr 65, another blackout, quite well. If we keep info below the surface we just don't learn anything from lynching or nking someone Counterpoint 3: I totally forgot you can't check the levels. also i forgot to tree the last few times. Too lazy to find the pm, and too lazy too read the rules.
Mat he/him Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1– I’ve played with Devo since I joined the shard. Technically possible, yes, but I think I know what I’m talking about when I say it’s unlikely. But you missed my actual question: What does a scan have to do with any of this? 2– This game has a different vibe, I’m sure you won’t disagree. Besides, that game was more blackout than this one. In this game, we know protect roles exist. We know roleblockers exist. Forcing them to claim won’t give anyone info besides the elims, about who to kill. If anyone has any useful information, by all means share it, but we’ve already discussed and argued about the real life aspect of the game, gotten nowhere with it, and it’s only been one cycle. Based on Szeth’s statement in the OP, I think we’ll learn more soon enough. 3– Not a counterpoint 6 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: also i forgot to tree the last few times. Too lazy to find the pm, and too lazy too read the rules. Not sure I buy that tbh. Reads like fake nonchalance. TKN can say he’s lazy. You’ve been keeping up with the thread and with PMs, so that’s not an excuse. And like. Can you read the rules? If you want info on the game, read the rules, don’t ask people to claim when you don’t even know what you’re talking about :P. Sorry if that comes off too strongly. I need sleep .-.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: 1– I’ve played with Devo since I joined the shard. Technically possible, yes, but I think I know what I’m talking about when I say it’s unlikely. But you missed my actual question: What does a scan have to do with any of this? 2– This game has a different vibe, I’m sure you won’t disagree. Besides, that game was more blackout than this one. In this game, we know protect roles exist. We know roleblockers exist. Forcing them to claim won’t give anyone info besides the elims, about who to kill. If anyone has any useful information, by all means share it, but we’ve already discussed and argued about the real life aspect of the game, gotten nowhere with it, and it’s only been one cycle. Based on Szeth’s statement in the OP, I think we’ll learn more soon enough. 3– Not a counterpoint Not sure I buy that tbh. Reads like fake nonchalance. TKN can say he’s lazy. You’ve been keeping up with the thread and with PMs, so that’s not an excuse. And like. Can you read the rules? If you want info on the game, read the rules, don’t ask people to claim when you don’t even know what you’re talking about :P. Sorry if that comes off too strongly. I need sleep .-. if someone were an elim and scanned devo as a rb or lurcher than they would obviously be more important than any other person to remove. It just makes sense I would say the two games have a similar vibe. But if you want villagers to never open up to each other than clamping down on role claiming is an easy way to do so. Not saying ur elim from that just saying it's not gonna help anyways. we have pms. The tree- okay but like i like actually didn't eat any trre i dont see why i would need to anyways. for those without roles it is basically just an0thrr tol you put in the hand of the elims. so basically tree eating = probably elim if you want proof i can hand you all my tree charges now and then you will see (also i read the rules again. nothing important changed there)
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