Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Had voted Mark as an engagement vote but as he's made two thought out posts that doesn't apply anymore. I kind of was gutreading him evil in our PM but I'm unsure about that. Reread but didn't get much. Aeoryi's Exp's vote was advertised as self pres, even though it was pointless to self pres, which is again weird, but I don't think they knew that. Most of my other vibes are from PMs. I think I'm fine with putting Aeoryi JNV Archer as village, and I'd say that my main PoE is Exp DeTess Frustration maybe @The Known Novel VC: Experience (2): DeTess, Aeoryi Szeth_Pancakes (1): Archer Archer (1): Experience DeTess (1): Mark Actually gonna just ping everyone who hasn't voted @Araris Valerian @Devotary of Spontaneity @JNV @Frustration @STINK + TKN Vote, it helps
Archer he/him Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Frustration said: Oh dang this is getting meta. Interesting, they didn't use emoticons in mine. Can you actually kill the moderator, is that like a thing? I was told you can't place a complaint on szeth but I'm doing it anyway. I have no reason to trust them when they say I can't attack the GM What'd you ask about and what was their approximate answer? 2 hours ago, Mark IV said: What'd Aman do this time? CC = crowd control = killing inactive players? Honestly, Aeoryi's self vote and activity initially made me think they could have been trying to die quickly. But their posts since, in self defence, make me think it was more for activity and to see reactions. Mild village read here, for me. I agree with your opinion on the advice, and I feel pointing out that villagers might make mistakes and pass investiture is mostly just stating the obvious. However, it does tell me something vague about Exp here. Not sure what I can conclude from this yet. More concretely though, it feels too outrightly elim-y for an elim to actually try suggesting the village not do anything, you know? Gives me more of a village read on Exp as well. Maybe just not a "vanillager" (funny term XD). The last time the GM was lynched, I remember hearing bad things happened. But maybe this time won't be that bad. Maybe we'll just make fools out of ourselves. Regardless though, seems more counter productive for the village, given our win-con is literally "when all of the Affected are defeated". Unless the GM's affected But yeah, Szeth's name's not gonna go in red for me But is anyone jumping to defend anyone? I'll have the go over the votes once, if I have the time. Else could someone make a vote tally counting vote changes as well? I won't confirm the exact words of my GM PM, but Szeth did use emoticons in our GM PM and gave me a straight-forward answer to a mildly tautological question I asked. I think that might just be the GM being the GM. Can't be sure though, that's just my two cents. Testing your theory on "unwilling" (I assume by that you mean inactive ?) villagers might not net us information if the villager stays inactive for another cycle, no? I'm not saying we should exe/complain out an active villager, just that either way, we'd be taking a risk. Unless you mean something else by "willing" villager (given that active villagers might also be unwilling). Continuing: Why are they gambit twins? Is that from this game? Or some previous game? Elims can act game solvey, especially if they don't know some of the game mechanics either. And especially so if they do know some mechanics that the village doesn't. Unless this is also a reference to something not from this game. What's a mix candidate? Because inactivity or because of something else? Cause I'm right here typing out this post :3 I need to make another pass over the thread to see what stands out (and to decide on my vote), but for now these are my thoughts. I'm curious what your question was. I don't think emoticon equals lying exactly, but it does mean RP GM Aeoryi is willing because they asked to be complaint killed CC is contribution crusade. Exe is public execution. Mis exe / mix is exing a villager by mistake And by all means, play the game properly and exe elims. I'm just far more interested in the meta part now 2 hours ago, Aeoryi said: i've only played 1 other game and exp was running it. You and XP are gambiting in PMs together 1 hour ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: Haha. Don’t. Do that :3 Note the emoticon. And the reaction. I'm like 25% sure they're scared of us doing it. More likely the next highest vote getter will die instead but that's me so /shrug
Frustration Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Archer said: What'd you ask about and what was their approximate answer? I asked about How actions work and later gave the action I took for the round, and the response I got was simple straightforward acknowledgement. 17 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Had voted Mark as an engagement vote but as he's made two thought out posts that doesn't apply anymore. I kind of was gutreading him evil in our PM but I'm unsure about that. Reread but didn't get much. Aeoryi's Exp's vote was advertised as self pres, even though it was pointless to self pres, which is again weird, but I don't think they knew that. Most of my other vibes are from PMs. I think I'm fine with putting Aeoryi JNV Archer as village, and I'd say that my main PoE is Exp DeTess Frustration maybe @The Known Novel VC: Experience (2): DeTess, Aeoryi Szeth_Pancakes (1): Archer Archer (1): Experience DeTess (1): Mark Actually gonna just ping everyone who hasn't voted @Araris Valerian @Devotary of Spontaneity @JNV @Frustration @STINK + TKN Vote, it helps Um probably @Aeoryi I think that's probably the correct choice. I could be convinced to vote Szeth though.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Frustration said: I asked about How actions work and later gave the action I took for the round, and the response I got was simple straightforward acknowledgement. Um probably @Aeoryi I think that's probably the correct choice. I could be convinced to vote Szeth though. If I get both lynched and complaint voted and I die then you won't know if one, or both, removes you entirely from the game. Hence why it is pointless to do so. (Also, you don't need to @ the person in red. Just put their name down.) 21 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Had voted Mark as an engagement vote but as he's made two thought out posts that doesn't apply anymore. I kind of was gutreading him evil in our PM but I'm unsure about that. Reread but didn't get much. Aeoryi's Exp's vote was advertised as self pres, even though it was pointless to self pres, which is again weird, but I don't think they knew that. Most of my other vibes are from PMs. I think I'm fine with putting Aeoryi JNV Archer as village, and I'd say that my main PoE is Exp DeTess Frustration maybe @The Known Novel VC: Experience (2): DeTess, Aeoryi Szeth_Pancakes (1): Archer Archer (1): Experience DeTess (1): Mark Actually gonna just ping everyone who hasn't voted @Araris Valerian @Devotary of Spontaneity @JNV @Frustration @STINK + TKN Vote, it helps I mean honestly TKN has been quite active outside of the game in non-SE related PMs, so I'm surprised at the lack of contribution from them in this game. But then again, something could be going on in their life that we don't know about. Just now, Araris Valerian said: My vote is going on Mark. And why exactly?
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: If I get both lynched and complaint voted and I die then you won't know if one, or both, removes you entirely from the game. Hence why it is pointless to do so. (Also, you don't need to @ the person in red. Just put their name down.) We don't know you're getting complaint deathed, so this is objectively false. This is never a good reason not to vote someone. (That being said, Frustration-- I would like an explanation for why you think Aeoryi is "the right choice") 36 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: I mean honestly TKN has been quite active outside of the game in non-SE related PMs, so I'm surprised at the lack of contribution from them in this game. TKN Works for me I do like Araris' vote tbh, bumps him up for me. Edit: Who wants to bet Frustration is submitting the elim kill :eyes: Edited October 9, 2023 by Matrim's Dice
JNV Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Like if I have to vot e I might just vote Szeth who knows maybe with the GM RP stuff this is what unlocks whatever real life is like we gotta kill the emoticon GM to unlock the rela life GM who does interesting whatever the opposite of emoticons are stuff so yeah thats my vote heres a quokka picture Spoiler 1
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JNV said: Like if I have to vot e I might just vote Szeth who knows maybe with the GM RP stuff this is what unlocks whatever real life is like we gotta kill the emoticon GM to unlock the rela life GM who does interesting whatever the opposite of emoticons are stuff so yeah thats my vote heres a quokka picture Reveal hidden contents And why do we need to unlock the true Szeth? So that way they can unleash their Full ultimate super omega GM power of doom? Methinks that releasing the inner GM is a bad choice. Quote In other words, it probably won't do anything.
Frustration Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: We don't know you're getting complaint deathed, so this is objectively false. This is never a good reason not to vote someone. (That being said, Frustration-- I would like an explanation for why you think Aeoryi is "the right choice") Downplaying the risk of passing Investiture off to Elims more than anything. 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: Edit: Who wants to bet Frustration is submitting the elim kill :eyes: Murder takes too much effort, I've done basically nothing today and I already want to go to bed.
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Frustration said: Downplaying the risk of passing Investiture off to Elims more than anything. Can you show me where they do this? I can't find it anywhere though I didn't do more than a quick scan
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 Half an hour left! Remember to get votes and actions in.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, Frustration said: Downplaying the risk of passing Investiture off to Elims more than anything. It's more TKN and DeTess (I assume this is why Mat is voting DeTess over Mark?) supporting giving investiture away, Exp opposing it (and DeTess voting Exp). I think that opposition makes it less likely he's a mage, since mages prefer themselves to be given investiture over any other option. Feels more like someone who's only investiture option is giving it away but is afraid of doing so, which isn't particularly alignment indicative except that if there are three elims they probably have a non-mage and there's little way to tell how many non-affected aren't mages. Aeoryi's idea was about testing for mages by giving people investiture. I see no reason that would work since only one elim needs to submit the kill so even the provable mage actions don't mean someone isn't an affected. I do think passing magic is overall a good thing unless there are village kills form somewhere? Mindmage is good for elims they can get the needed investiture in one cycle and just hoard a bunch until they need vote manip, getting stray investiture from villagers doesn't really make this more of a threat. Fighter isn't that good for them unless they somehow figure out who the mages are and protector is useless, but all three can be good for village. Voting Experience.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: It's more TKN and DeTess (I assume this is why Mat is voting DeTess over Mark?) supporting giving investiture away, Exp opposing it (and DeTess voting Exp). I think that opposition makes it less likely he's a mage, since mages prefer themselves to be given investiture over any other option. Feels more like someone who's only investiture option is giving it away but is afraid of doing so, which isn't particularly alignment indicative except that if there are three elims they probably have a non-mage and there's little way to tell how many non-affected aren't mages. Aeoryi's idea was about testing for mages by giving people investiture. I see no reason that would work since only one elim needs to submit the kill so even the provable mage actions don't mean someone isn't an affected. I do think passing magic is overall a good thing unless there are village kills form somewhere? Mindmage is good for elims they can get the needed investiture in one cycle and just hoard a bunch until they need vote manip, getting stray investiture from villagers doesn't really make this more of a threat. Fighter isn't that good for them unless they somehow figure out who the mages are and protector is useless, but all three can be good for village. Voting Experience. Oh right. Forgot how kill submits work.
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) The turn is over! Please cease posting and PMing. Edited October 10, 2023 by Szeth_Pancakes
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) LG97 Night One: What If I Told You I'm a Mastermind? “Tell me what you know of Whimsy and the Houses,” the Floral said, leaning back in his chair. Cochalis found it irritating how the Floral kept railroading the conversation to suit his agenda. “Um,” he said, “Well, Whimsy are the one true god, of course. They created our planet and everyone in it from their residence on the top of the Tree of Dreams. The Florals of the four High Houses are Whimsy’s appointed messengers, relaying information from Whimsy to the outside world and vice versa. Everyone knows that.” “What if I said that there’s a power beyond Whimsy?” The Floral smiled expectantly. “I’d say… that’s heresy.” Odd. Florals weren’t supposed to be heretics, especially not High Florals. The door creaks open: Shivi, returning with the tea. Ignoring her, the Floral said, “I’ve discovered an… interesting property of Whimsy’s Investiture. I could tell you about it, but I think it would be best to show you.” He smiled pleasantly as Shivi poured both their cups. “Oh, and before I forget,” the Floral says, his snakelike eyes locking on to yours, “Be careful. You’re toying with powerful forces here. I would hate for someone to get hurt.” He grins at you, the yellow light glinting off his sharp canines. “Who are you talking to?” Cochalis asked. Maybe the Floral was going mad– that would certainly explain some things. *** Scion Experience of House Carnation was having a very bad day, and it was only about to get worse. “What do you mean, night duty?” he asked for the thousandth time. He was the picture-perfect scion– he completed all of his duties, even the mind-numbingly boring ones, on time and with meticulous precision. He would have been promoted to Head of Government Affairs last year if Cilia hadn’t been such a brown-nosing snob. But here he was, despite everything, being assigned the most tedious, boring, horrible job he could imagine. Night duty! Whimsy above. “That’s the roots, man,” Randi said. She’d befriended him when he started as a scion all those turns ago. Their strengths complemented each other; she had excellent people skills; could navigate any conversation with ease, no matter how awkward, but she struggled when it came to organizing her work and getting things done on time. (As a result, she’d been assigned night duty much more than he had.) On the other hand, Experience was terrible with people, but was meticulous in his preparedness. “It’s not that bad, really,” Randi continued. “Just try ta think about something else.” Her Verian accent slipped through a bit. She had to be careful with that– some residents of the Tree didn’t appreciate it when a foreigner was in such a high position of power. They were just about done with their filing; the pile of papers on the table behind them was significantly smaller. Most of them had been slotted in their respective drawers, built into the walls of the room. Someone opened the door, without knocking. Rude, Experience thought as he turned around. Standing there were two Constables, their robes marked brown. “Scion Carnation Experience, you are hereby charged with treason, murder, and other high crimes,” one of them said, stoic. Experience had to play the words back in his head to fully process what the man had said. “What? Wait. What?” The punishment for that was- was death. “There’s some sort of mistake, I- I’m sure.” Randi stared, horrified, as the guards grabbed Experience and hauled him out of the room and down the hallway. They burst out onto a branch of the Tree, and the guards unceremoniously threw him over. He screamed as he fell; his head hit a branch on his way down, and everything went dark. ------------ VC: Experience (3): DeTess, Aeoryi, Devotary Szeth (2): Archer, JNV DeTess (2): Mark, Matrim Archer (1): Experience Aeoryi (1): Frustration Mark (1): Araris *** Experience has been executed! He was Not Affected. The turn ends at 5:30 PM PDT on Tuesday, October 10. Player List: Spoiler @The Known Novel - Cain Abbel Experience: Not Affected @Matrim's Dice @Araris Valerian - Whamsy, who ran into a wall really hard one day, “WHAM!” and now thinks he’s a shard. @Aeoryi - AMBITION, who ran into a wall really hard one day and now believes she is a shard. @DeTess @Devotary of Spontaneity -Calephor, a Mage of House Azalea. @Archer - Aschu the Blessed @JNV - Jellin @Mark IV - Mark @Frustration @STINK Spectators: Spoiler @Labyrinth Edited October 10, 2023 by Szeth_Pancakes 3
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Aeoryi, did you have a reason for that vote beyond self pres? Devo, what was your reason?
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Aeoryi said: If I get both lynched and complaint voted and I die then you won't know if one, or both, removes you entirely from the game. Hence why it is pointless to do so. (Also, you don't need to @ the person in red. Just put their name down.) I mean honestly TKN has been quite active outside of the game in non-SE related PMs, so I'm surprised at the lack of contribution from them in this game. But then again, something could be going on in their life that we don't know about. And why exactly? Yeah, I'm just pretty excited for that one topic, and a little bit bored of yet another blackout game. I should pick up a bit more steam soon.
Archer he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Oh wow, I was way off with where I thought the VC was. I'd like to point out that Szeth being included in the count is a good sign that they're exable. It's unclear whether my complaint against them was accepted. Did anyone succeed in complaining and get a confirmation message about it? Experience doesn't look very alive, which is a little disappointing Experience said Aeoryi came up with the idea to try to gambit Mat, which doesn't fit an elim profile. Them being willing to kill their gambit partner doesn't look villagey though, so I'm a little torn. 2 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: Yeah, I'm just pretty excited for that one topic, and a little bit bored of yet another blackout game. I should pick up a bit more steam soon. Elims are stressed, not bored. This man is village
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: Yeah, I'm just pretty excited for that one topic, and a little bit bored of yet another blackout game. I should pick up a bit more steam soon. Why’d you sign up if you’re too bored of blackout games to play C1 :P. /s Just now, Archer said: Oh wow, I was way off with where I thought the VC was. I'd like to point out that Szeth being included in the count is a good sign that they're exable. It's unclear whether my complaint against them was accepted. Did anyone succeed in complaining and get a confirmation message about it? Elims are stressed, not bored. This man is village I posted a VC like an hour before the cycle ended :P. Good point on Szeth. I didn’t use mine so I can’t help with that, though. Eh, that’s too quick of a clear imo. Elims can be bored too.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Aeoryi, did you have a reason for that vote beyond self pres? Devo, what was your reason? Exp voted me for no reason so I voted him for no reason. And I wanted to not die The Szeth votes were valid, it seems. Cool. 4 minutes ago, Archer said: Oh wow, I was way off with where I thought the VC was. I'd like to point out that Szeth being included in the count is a good sign that they're exable. It's unclear whether my complaint against them was accepted. Did anyone succeed in complaining and get a confirmation message about it? Experience doesn't look very alive, which is a little disappointing Experience said Aeoryi came up with the idea to try to gambit Mat, which doesn't fit an elim profile. Them being willing to kill their gambit partner doesn't look villagey though, so I'm a little torn. Elims are stressed, not bored. This man is village I mean exp sorta threw me under the bus by telling mat we had a PM and then telling me to tell mat that I didn't have a PM so... I mean from what it seemed exp was not acting quite villagery so yeah
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: Why’d you sign up if you’re too bored of blackout games to play C1 :P. /s Well I didn't know that I would be when signing up . I'd probably be a good bit more active if a certain RP thing hadn't popped up.
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: Exp voted me for no reason so I voted him for no reason. And I wanted to not die I mean exp sorta threw me under the bus by telling mat we had a PM and then telling me to tell mat that I didn't have a PM so... I mean from what it seemed exp was not acting quite villagery so yeah You weren’t in danger of dying though, a bunch of people had more votes than you. So that doesn’t work. …He clearly didn’t do it on purpose? And that misunderstanding got cleared up ages before the cycle ended. I still think you’re probably village but just trying to understand your pov. I guess that was your pov.
Aeoryi she/her Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: LG97 Night One: What If I Told You I'm a Mastermind? “Tell me what you know of Whimsy and the Houses,” the Floral said, leaning back in his chair. Cochalis found it irritating how the Floral kept railroading the conversation to suit his agenda. “Um,” he said, “Well, Whimsy are the one true god, of course. They created our planet and everyone in it from their residence on the top of the Tree of Dreams. The Florals of the four High Houses are Whimsy’s appointed messengers, relaying information from Whimsy to the outside world and vice versa. Everyone knows that.” “What if I said that there’s a power beyond Whimsy?” The Floral smiled expectantly. “I’d say… that’s heresy.” Odd. Florals weren’t supposed to be heretics, especially not High Florals. The door creaks open: Shivi, returning with the tea. Ignoring her, the Floral said, “I’ve discovered an… interesting property of Whimsy’s Investiture. I could tell you about it, but I think it would be best to show you.” He smiled pleasantly as Shivi poured both their cups. “Oh, and before I forget,” the Floral says, his snakelike eyes locking on to yours, “Be careful. You’re toying with powerful forces here. I would hate for someone to get hurt.” He grins at you, the yellow light glinting off his sharp canines. “Who are you talking to?” Cochalis asked. Maybe the Floral was going mad– that would certainly explain some things. *** Scion Experience of House Carnation was having a very bad day, and it was only about to get worse. “What do you mean, night duty?” he asked for the thousandth time. He was the picture-perfect scion– he completed all of his duties, even the mind-numbingly boring ones, on time and with meticulous precision. He would have been promoted to Head of Government Affairs last year if Cilia hadn’t been such a brown-nosing snob. But here he was, despite everything, being assigned the most tedious, boring, horrible job he could imagine. Night duty! Whimsy above. “That’s the roots, man,” Randi said. She’d befriended him when he started as a scion all those turns ago. Their strengths complemented each other; she had excellent people skills; could navigate any conversation with ease, no matter how awkward, but she struggled when it came to organizing her work and getting things done on time. (As a result, she’d been assigned night duty much more than he had.) On the other hand, Experience was terrible with people, but was meticulous in his preparedness. “It’s not that bad, really,” Randi continued. “Just try ta think about something else.” Her Verian accent slipped through a bit. She had to be careful with that– some residents of the Tree didn’t appreciate it when a foreigner was in such a high position of power. They were just about done with their filing; the pile of papers on the table behind them was significantly smaller. Most of them had been slotted in their respective drawers, built into the walls of the room. Someone opened the door, without knocking. Rude, Experience thought as he turned around. Standing there were two Constables, their robes marked brown. “Scion Carnation Experience, you are hereby charged with treason, murder, and other high crimes,” one of them said, stoic. Experience had to play the words back in his head to fully process what the man had said. “What? Wait. What?” The punishment for that was- was death. “There’s some sort of mistake, I- I’m sure.” Randi stared, horrified, as the guards grabbed Experience and hauled him out of the room and down the hallway. They burst out onto a branch of the Tree, and the guards unceremoniously threw him over. He screamed as he fell; his head hit a branch on his way down, and everything went dark. ------------ VC: Experience (3): DeTess, Aeoryi, Devotary Szeth (2): Archer, JNV DeTess (2): Mark, Matrim Archer (1): Experience Aeoryi (1): Frustration Mark (1): Araris *** Experience has been executed! He was Not Affected. The turn ends at 5:30 PM PDT on Monday, October 9. Player List: Reveal hidden contents @The Known Novel - Cain Abbel Experience: Not Affected @Matrim's Dice @Araris Valerian - Whamsy, who ran into a wall really hard one day, “WHAM!” and now thinks he’s a shard. @Aeoryi - AMBITION, who ran into a wall really hard one day and now believes she is a shard. @DeTess @Devotary of Spontaneity -Calephor, a Mage of House Azalea. @Archer - Aschu the Blessed @JNV - Jellin @Mark IV - Mark @Frustration @STINK Spectators: Reveal hidden contents @Labyrinth Wait Wait the turn ends today? Uh... @Szeth_Pancakes is this correct? Edited October 10, 2023 by Aeoryi
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