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lezian: i’m going to kill you kaladin:

Good memes, but I feel the first and third could have done with the scene where Gollum is tied up (finding a screencap is a new quest altogether).

Also, I just want to say thanks to @Biplet for keeping me sane while I was running this, even though she was playing this and I made her wake up at 8 am everyday to be on for rollover. Plus she dealt with me having to do this while we were on our little anniversary trip a few days ago. And she put up with the stress that me cursing her as an elim put on her really well. She also made a lot of really funny memes both in thread and in the doc, so that was really fun to watch as well. Anyway, I wouldn't be here without her, so just a huge thanks to her. Love you Bip. EDIT: Also also, she definitely called and woke me up ten minutes before rollover at one point because I accidentally slept in, so yeah, huge thanks for that as well.

Thank you so much to everyone who played! It was a blast getting to run this game again! I loved getting to watch all of you play and it makes me really happy to know that you guys really like these rules and have fun with them. It's always so much fun getting to run these games, and it really warms my heart to know that you guys like them too. Just...thank you guys so much. And also a huge thank you to @Elbereth and @Young Bard as well. These games would not be possible without their amazing help, especially with the spreadsheet. Most of this happens because of their work, and I just take a lot of the credit for myself since I made the rules. Anyway, I'll eventually give more thoughts about how the game went this time, and what I think I could do to improve it for the next run (I've already started making a v3 of the rules), but for now I just want to congratulate @Ashbringer, @Biplet, and @Lotus for their win! And also @Araris Valerian and @Matrim's Dice for playing really really well as the Kandra. It got really really close at the end there, and Mat very nearly could've won if things had gone slightly differently, which would've been awesome. It's not often you get to see a SK win. Also, Araris, picking Mat as your successor was such a smart move. If you'd hit a villager, the game would've ended right there. Or maybe would've ended after D5, but it would've been much harder for your successor to try and win. @Archer Thanks for making a really fun character to work with, I hope you appreciate what I did with them in the writeup. It was always really funny seeing you RP with them. @DrakeMarshall I just want to congratulate you on earning the most boxings almost every turn of the game, and I'm only saying almost because I'm too lazy to go back and check that that's actually what happened. Plus it was fun seeing you and Lotus and Bip RP together for the short period of time at the beginning of the game before Lotus died. And I'm glad you and Bip continued that RP banter between your characters throughout the game. @Illwei Thank you so much for subbing in for @Ventyl, even if you died shortly after. You immediately came in and started making the elims sweat a bit, as if they weren't already before that. Also, if anyone's curious about what possibilities they had for their roles, you can look at the version history for the Role Assignment tab in the sheet and go to the version from May 29th at 8:37 am CDT and see what could've happened. Anyway, just a huge thank you to everyone who played. These games wouldn't be possible without you, and I appreciate you all so so much. Running games brings me a lot of joy and gives me something to look forward to everyday. I often need that, so just thank you all so much for playing. It really does make me so happy that you all enjoy my games.

HOOOOOOOOOOLY CRAP. Okay so I'm gonna start by saying that this was SO STRESSFUL. And here I thought the previous MR was hard. Two games in a row Mat and I were teammates! A lot of this game was me rambling in the elim doc trying to figure out the next best plan XD. Huge thank you to my teammates, I had a blast playing with y'all, even if you were a traitor Mat. And hey Lotus, we lived to the end for you! Drake: every single time you said no elim thug would speculate the existence of an elim thug on D1, I lost my mind. Absolutely hilarious thank you for making this one of the most iconic things I've managed to do. "It's a bad plan and it wouldn't work, no one would do it." Precisely! Here's a peak at what the elim doc looked like after Araris died: Edit: Mat in the Kandra doc: "Bip trusts me!" Me, about to submit a coinshot kill on Mat:

LG77: Aftermath Iden: alive Shara couldn’t get ahead of herself. She had one last thing to do before she could finally take out Iden. Dann: alive The meeting hall where everyone had gathered at Goren’s orders seemed especially quiet today. Mostly everyone was unnerved by Earl’s recent execution and no one was happy with being stuck in one room for nearly two full days now. Especially since Goren wouldn’t even explain why they were all stuck there. Well, Shara thought, I know why. They’d agreed that Shara would be the one to start it. There had been a...disagreement between her and Philico, but Shara had ultimately won out in that argument. And so she had the right to the first blood in what would be the worst massacre in recent history. She gripped the medallion hidden in her pocket. That had been a more recent find, and thank Harmony for it. The medallion had come in handy, especially after her secret powers as a Thug had come out. She tapped the stores hidden in the metal, walking so she could get a better sightline for Dann. She grabbed a glass of water, discreetly mixing in the bits of steel one of the others had gotten for her. She downed it quickly, her nerves seeming to rattle, her heart pounding. She hardly even noticed that her hair was falling out of her neat bun on the top of her head. It’s time. Shara grabbed the coin hidden in her other pocket, took it out, burned steel, and turned to where Dann was. And she stopped for a moment, everything fading away as she saw Iden standing there next to him. Iden, who she had worked so hard for for so long, yet he didn’t care to do anything to help anyone but himself. He wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for her. And so, she changed her plans slightly. Moving quickly, because there wasn’t much time and the others could be impatient, Shara moved to get a new angle on Dann and Iden. She needed to do this right. She didn’t have much power left in the medallion, probably enough for one shot’s worth to spare before she’d need the rest for the chaos afterwards. She flicked the coin up into the air, and then pushed it as hard as she could. It flew through the air, shooting straight through Dann and into Iden’s chest behind him. She didn’t see Dann’s reaction before he dropped, though there probably wasn’t much of one considering the shot had killed him instantly. Dann: deceased Iden however, seemed shocked, a look of pure confusion on his face as he clutched his chest and fell to the ground. Shara ran to him, tapping pewter to push others out of her way as people began to realize what was happening. She barely heard the gunshots from the rebel guards as they turned on the few Loyalist guards that were left. Iden was struggling on the ground, clearly struggling to breathe with the coin lodged in his chest. It was a pity that Shara’s shot had missed his heart for a bit. “Shara...why?” He said. Even those two words seemed to be painful for him, and he coughed up blood after. Shara could hardly make herself look at him, nonetheless talk to him. She forced herself to anyway, kneeling down so Iden could see her face clearly. “I’ve been wanting to kill you for so long. You’ve done nothing but help yourself, and help the others who profit off of the work of so many people below you. I worked up from nothing to get where I am now. And you wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for me. You couldn’t even spare a thought for my family, or for the countless other families out there who have been even worse off than mine. It’s finally time that we help people, Iden.” Shara scooted away as Iden let out his final breaths. It was finally over. Or at least, the first step in their grand plan was finally complete. She still had work to do. Iden: deceased ~ After what felt like an eternity of running and hiding from all the chaos, Yoden finally managed to find Goren in the confusion. The man didn’t even seem to be breaking a sweat. “We need to evacuate.” Yoden insisted. “There’s too many of them - your blockade isn’t going to keep the Sympathisers in, it will only lead to a massacre.” Goren returned a level-headed stare. “My job is to keep the problem contained. The situation is… unfortunate, but will be dealt with shortly. If we evacuate now, the Sympathisers will spread all over the city, spreading havoc everywhere they go. For now, it’s contained.” “Is this what you call contained?!” Yoden yelled. “It’s a massacre! If I didn’t know better, I think you’d want everyone here dead.” There was a pause. Slowly, Goren smiled. Yoden backed away slowly. “Goren… What is this. This… isn’t something you’d do. You’re here to help people.” No response. Yoden tried the door, opened it, and felt it slam shut again. Goren was almost on top of him. “We’ve had our disagreements, but we’re colleagues.” Goren smirked, and slowly started to walk towards Yoden. “You have no idea how long I’ve had to put up with your idiotic blathering. Your questions. Your pathetic attempts at policy. I’ve dreamed of this day, when I wouldn’t have to put up with it anymore. And it seems the Survivor has finally smiled upon my request.” And with that, Goren plunged the dagger into Yoden’s chest. Yoden wrapped his hands around the dagger in his chest, clutching it in disbelief, slowly sinking down against the wall as his vision went black. ~ Juno raced to hide when the screaming started. But they seemed to be everywhere, with nowhere to hide. If she’d been a little quicker, a little smarter, a little more willing to run when she had the chance… Nearby, one of the Senators screamed as a Boxing shot through his torso. Juno’s own Jacket should be able to protect her from the same fate for so long, but only if she found a way out first. Juno rounded a corner, and found Goren and Yoden standing by a doorway - could it be an exit? If anyone might know, it’s possible they did. Juno raced forward - maybe this was her chance - but something was wrong. Yoden seemed panicked, pleading, as Goren grabbed a dagger he was carrying and plunged it through Yoden’s chest. Juno stopped, but before she could turn away from the scene, Goren turned and Juno saw his dark smile. Running wouldn’t do any good. Time seemed to freeze. Goren’s awful grin, Yoden, clutching the dagger in his stomach with a look of disbelief and betrayal - dead, but still standing. Juno’s feet seemed frozen to the ground, until she noticed the thin sheen that seemed to lie between Goren, Yoden and herself. She turned, and saw Philico standing behind her, seemingly uncaring of everything in his surroundings. One of the traitors. Either that or something much, much worse. “Philico found your intrusions… troublesome, you know.” Philico said. Only, Juno could see now, it wasn’t Philico. Slowly his face started to shift and switch. First, Sweeper, then, faster and faster, a display of faces. AraRaash, Panini, Shara, his own face, for just a moment. Juno’s mouth was dry. “So you were the kandra all along. I thought you might be.” Juno tried to put more confidence into those words than she felt. “You’re a… Slider, though. I thought you were a thief. Or, the person you’re pretending to be was a thief. Whatever.” “A gift that came with this current body - he and his friends were great fans of playing with toys they didn’t understand. It’s… handy, though. I might keep it for a little while.” The kandra slowly collapsed out of a human form entirely and became translucent, revealing a nauseating mix of bones and, briefly surfacing, a spike, before it got pulled into the swirling mass once more. “Are you here to kill me?” Juno assessed her options - against a Kandra, they weren’t good. And even if she somehow won, Goren was still waiting outside the moment the time bubble dropped. The kandra seemed to consider the question - its faces moved between several emotions in rapid succession - joy, anger, fear. Eventually, it seemed to settle on an answer. “You humans attract chaos like a Koloss attracts flies. Any chaos I did, any that I could hope to do, was far outweighed by the chaos you caused amongst yourselves.” A rumble seemed to emerge from the writhing form. After a moment, Juno realised it was meant to be a chuckle. “No, you’re far more interesting alive than dead. Particularly with what’s about to happen.” Somehow, Juno didn’t feel comforted by that answer. But the kandra went on. “The Sympathisers are wearing green armbands so they can identify one another during the massacre. Acquire one, by any means necessary, and you should make it out of here alive for what comes next.” Juno paused. “Thank you. I think.” “Perhaps we will meet again someday, human. I would take great pleasure in adding your bones to my collection.” “Next time, you could just say goodbye.” The kandra briefly materialised Philico’s face to smile, and deformed back into a blob-like entity once more. Then, faster than Juno thought possible, it dashed past Juno. She watched the bubble fall as all the sounds of the outside world came rushing in once more. The blob dashed at Goren, and before Goren had even taken a single step, a fist seemed to emerge from the mass, giving Goren a swift upper cut to the jaw. As Goren collapsed, the Kandra kept moving around him and the prone body of Yoden, leaking through the underside of the door, and was gone. In a moment, there was no-one else in the corridor beside the prone bodies of Goren and Yoden, and the discarded bones of Philico. Juno forced herself to walk down the corridor towards the scene - she felt Goren’s pulse - there was still a beat there, so not dead, just unconscious. She grabbed the armband off his arm and then left to find another exit. ~ AraRaash once again found himself in the midst of a bloody battle over the fate of the Elendel Basin. He had seen many things over the course of his lives, and once again this was one of the deadliest moments he’d found himself in. He was tired of being important when it came to this planet’s people, but well...he did what Lamentation told him to. And so, he found himself talking in the corner of a room to a man with a puppet while people died around them. It was a strange experience, to say the least. “You’re a Rebel, aren’t you?” Bagel, the puppet said. “Well, yes, I am.” AraRaash said. “If the gun I was holding to your head...or, well, to Panini’s head wasn’t indication enough of that, surely the fact that none of the rebels are trying to kill me should’ve clued you into that fact.” “If you kill me,” Panini said, his face grim, “Bagel will hunt you down and enact revenge.” “And how exactly will he do that? He is attached to you, you know.” “I’m right here you know!” Bagel said. “You can’t talk about me as if I’m not here. I’ll make sure that no one ever remembers you after this, mark my words.” “Well,” AraRaash said, “I’m the one with the gun, and because of that, you two are going to do what I say.” Panini quickly ducked under AraRassh’s gun, going for AraRaash’s legs. AraRaash sighed, bending his legs unnaturally around Panini so he just slid under AraRaash. He quickly rearranged his body so that his torso twisted around to face where Panini now was. Panini gasped, and Bagel beat him to speaking. “You’re a Kandra!” “We’re going to tell everyone that you’re a Kandra,” Panini said. “No one will ever trust you again. All your plans will be ruined. You won’t get away with this!” AraRaash rolled his eyes. “Of course I’m a Kandra! Do you think I care if people know that? I’m not even the only one here, though I think MarRiis was trying to keep their involvement here a secret. Anyway, everyone here will be dead by the end of the night if things go according to plan.” He paused. “You know what secret really matters, what’s really important?” He crouched down, and leaned his face closer to Panini and Bagel’s. “Bagel, you aren’t even real. If I’m fake, you’re even more fake.” Bagel gasped, starting to shake his head. Panini looked horrified, and went to cover Bagel’s ears, but nothing could seem to console the puppet. AraRaash stood up. “Yes, that’s right. You’re not real. You thought you could come here and blackmail me with all the little secrets you learned, but I had the greatest secret to blackmail you with. Your own unreality.” AraRaash nodded to himself, watching as Panini and Bagel slowly started to unravel, muttering to themselves reassurances about each other. “And now that that’s done, I can make my way back to….” He trailed off as he turned back to the rest of the meeting hall. There were significantly less living people left. They must’ve spent a lot more time talking than he’d thought. “Rusts,” AraRaash said. “He really did manage to trick me into wasting time. I missed out on all the fun.” AraRaash made his way through the melee, killing anyone who tried to stop him and wasn’t wearing the blood green armband the Rebels had agreed to start wearing once the massacre had started. Once he was outside, he began to feel the pull from Lamentation once again. His part here was done, and he was needed elsewhere. But that could wait until the murdering was done. So he waited. ~ As the sun began to rise on the next day, not even a week after the news of the rebel attack had reached Garmet, Goren and the rebel survivors made their way out of the building. Most of them were covered in blood, and they’d lost a few of their own, but the mission was mostly successful. Goren turned to look at the others. Some of them still seemed a little restless, as if they were almost disappointed that the killing was over. Most of them just seemed tired and ready to be done. There was still so much work to do. “Shara,” Goren said, turning to her. She had been an invaluable asset to the Rebel cause, and her discovery of the medallion had served them well. “I want you to draft up a plan for how to deal with this city. We’re taking it over.” AraRaash walked up. "I wish you all the best with that." Goren and Shara looked over at AraRaash with surprise. "Unfortunately, I have... other business I need to attend to." Goren looked at AraRaash. "You've been of great service - I don't suppose I could change your mind?" "Unfortunately not. You seem to have things under control, though." "Then go well, AraRaash. May you bring message of our victory everywhere in your travels, so that others may replicate our success." AraRaash nodded, and left. Shara paused for a moment. “We are going to do this better than they did, right?” Goren smiled. “Yes, we are. Work on making sure no one gets left behind in our improvements for this city. Even the poorest here will benefit from our coup.” “And as for the rest of us,” Goren said. “We’re leaving the most political minded of our team here, along with a healthy force of soldiers, to rebuild this city from the ground up. I want minimal casualties and minimal destruction. And I want to recruit anyone we think would be helpful to our cause and is willing to make a long trip soon.” He paused, mostly for dramatic effect. “Because our next goal is to make the very long trek to Elendel. We’ve got more work we need to do there.” Dannex was killed! They were a Loyalist Duralumin Gnat/Sparker Twinborn! And that’s the game! Congrats to the Rebels, Ashbringer, Biplet, and Lotus, for winning! And an honorary congratulations to Matrim’s Dice as well, even though he got Kandrafied shortly before the elims won. Oh, and a huge congratulations to Striker for running such a fantastic game. It was a blast getting to co-GM with him again. GM thoughts will come later. Player List: @Ashbringer - Rebel Soother/Skimmer Twinborn @Biplet - Shara, advisor to a representative of the third Octant, Iden. Rebel Thug @Szeth_Pancakes - Earl Euphemie, a journalist from the Elendel Daily, definitely not a highly trained assassin. Loyalist Nicroburst/Subsumer Twinborn @Matrim's Dice - Philico, here to steal Faleast's Kandra thunder. Rebel Thief turned Kandra with a Slider Spike @Lotus - Josephine, definitely not out of her league. Rebel Pulser/Pinnacle Twinborn @Araris Valerian - Sweeper, a lowly cleaner of the political chamber building. Kandra @The Unknown Order - Walker, who...walks. Yeah. Loyalist Slider/Gasper Twinborn @DrakeMarshall - Juno, member of the Board of Somethingorother, and an enthusiastic protestor. Loyalist Archivist @Jondesu - Myra, not witty or even particularly bright, but she’s honest. Loyalist Rioter Misting @Archer - The Great Panini, wealthy patron of the arts and amateur ventriloquist, accompanied by Bagel. Loyalist Smoker/Sentry Twinborn @Illwei Loyalist Seeker Misting and Hemalurgist @Experience - Zara, questionably loyal, but in extreme ways. Loyalist Tineye Misting and Investigator @Devotary of Spontaneity - Magrait, an amalgamation of Adomert and Inedze through their stored memories from a coppermind. Loyalist Spinner Ferring and Thief @Azmine_king Loyalist Hazekiller @Mist - Lumen, a secretary who's trying her best and wants to bring justice to whoever needs it. Loyalist Leecher/Soulbearer Twinborn @|TJ| - Loyalist Lurcher/Trueself Twinborn @manukos - Bill, Bill Door. Probably shaped like a triangle. Loyalist Augur/Connector Twinborn @Dannex - Loyalist Duralumin Gnat/Sparker Twinborn @Flyingbooks - Veren, assistant to the Elendel representatives, playing both sides to get the nobility less influence in politics. Loyalist Oracle/Windwhisper Twinborn! Docs: GM Spreadsheet Elim Doc Kandra Doc Spec/Dead Doc

Let me just put it out there: I JUST turned in my final exam and final project for Spanish. On the same day this game ended I am now DONE WITH MY SPANISH 2 SUMMER CLASS

Apologies if any of these have been done before General Sanderson/fantasy books Final Empire WOR OB General Stormlight

Man, I don't even know how to feel about this I actually am kicking myself really really really hard because I was dumb and used the elim kill to try to kill Ash last night and not the kandra kill for some reason. I... don't know why. I'm decently annoyed about that but it's no one's fault and there's nothing I can do now :P. The fact that neither of Drake or Archer were Thugs makes it arguably worse but ah well. This game was really fun, before I was converted and after. I probably have more thoughts but they're also probably in my doc(s).

… everything went according to plan? Huh. On mobile right now so I’ve got more for later, but great game everyone! And Skimmer, Drake. I was a Skimmer.

It's exciting to post my own topic for the first time! Something I’ve wondered about for a while now is how Helaran appeared on the battlefield from behind Amaram’s lines. It’s been theorized for a while now that Helaran was a Surgebinder. Primarily, this is because of a quick line from Taravangian discussing Shallan as a Surgebinder. Taravangian clearly believes that Helaran has some Surgebinding capability. But he’s absolutely startled by the account of an Alethi bridgeman spontaneously developing Surgebinding on his own. What did he think Jasnah, Shallan, and Helaran were up to, then? Shallan is at the Shattered Plains, but though he suspects her of Surgebinding, she doesn’t apparently warrant activating their agents. He breezes right past her miraculous survival. He doesn't fret about her coming into contact with Szeth at all. But that makes sense if Taravangian knows that the Honorblades are no longer in the Shin's possession, and haven't been for years. He may be assuming Shallan's Surgebinding ability, whatever it is, is granted by a Blade that she was trained to use. In RoW, Szeth learns that his father, who had keeping of the Bondsmith Honorblade is dead, and that Ishar took back his Honorblade at some point after Szeth’s banishment. Taravangian reveals that he knew Szeth’s father Neturo was dead prior to this revelation. My guess is that Ishar recovered his Honorblade about seven years before it’s spotted in RoW. This would coincide with him coming into power in Tukar. Nale seems to have been in contact with Ishar seven years ago, the same year that Gavilar and Shallan Davar’s mother were both killed. Did Nale's concerns, perhaps prompted by his conversations with Gavilar and Venli, influence Ishar's decision to take back his Honorblade? That’s a little bit out of the scope of what I’m thinking but pretty interesting. What I'm suggesting is that Ishar may have also taken custody of the other Honorblades as well. Helaran returns home with his new Shardblade about six and a half years ago, from the current position in the timeline. The descriptions given to this Shardblade closely resemble the Lightweaver Honorblade, which is something I never noticed until I looked at the art for the Honorblades. That gemstone in the pommel is the only thing that doesn’t seem to fit that description. How hard is it to move and set gemstones on a Shardblade? It can be done to regular Shardblades, though I don’t know if that necessarily proves anything. Sunraiser, for example, bears a pretty strong resemblance to the Bondsmith Honorblade, in my opinion. Possibly Helaran’s blade is a dead spren in a form that strongly resembles the Lightweaver Honorblade. But with the Lightweaver Honorblade, Helaran’s miraculous appearance makes more sense. He’d have used a Lightweaving to hide the fact that he was a Shardbearer mounted on a horse in the middle of an enemy army. It also might explain something that has meshed poorly for me with Helaran's being a Skybreaker acolyte, which was specifically his weird glowing effect. Shallan or the things she holds sometimes seem to glow, particularly when it’s implied that she’s using the Spiritual form of her Transformation surge. Tien’s implied bond to a Cryptic also uses the symbolism of things glowing or becoming brighter. To me this is more evidence that Helaran had some Surgebinding ability in that direction. Shallan mentions that there is no history attached to Amaram/Helaran’s Shardblade, in a world where every Shardblade known is recorded and named. It’s not out of the question that Nale would have access to an unknown Shardblade, but if he’s in contact with Ishar and seriously concerned by an oncoming Desolation, he might have access to another Honorblade and the motivation to arm someone who "impressed him" with it. Taravangian therefore might be working under the assumption that the same source (Nale) that gave Helaran his Honorblade might be supplying Shallan. This means that Amaram would have had possession of the Lightweaver Honorblade. If he perceived it as an ordinary Shardblade, perhaps he simply never noticed he was holding an Honorblade. I think this would be pretty deeply ironic for the villain who lies to himself about why he does what he does and truly believes his own lies to have the Lightweaver Honorblade. Someone who would have known, Restares/Kalak, seemed mostly to be in contact with Amaram via spanreed from afar. I doubt he’d share that information with Amaram, who I think he must have been manipulating--but it’s impossible to say. Other people who would recognize the Lightweaver Honorblade would be Szeth, Dalinar, Taln, and Ash. Szeth, Taln, and Ash don’t ever seem to witness Amaram wielding the Blade in combat that I can find, although all three are present at the Battle of Thaylen Field. Ash spends her time looking after Taln, and never mentions seeing her own Honorblade or Amaram. Szeth, likewise, spends a lot of his time occupied by other concerns, and never mentions seeing the Lightweaver Honorblade or Amaram that I can find in the text. It’s either not the one, or they miraculously miss it every time. Dalinar also saw both Helaran/Amaram’s Shardblade, when he confronted Amaram near the end of WoR, and the Honorblades in his visions of Aharietiam. Dalinar also pitched the idea of Shallan doing studies of the Honorblades seen in the vision. Dalinar has published written accounts of the visions, as I recall, but no mention is made of drawings. Quickly reading through the rest of the part, it's not clear to me if Shallan ever gets around to doing that. However, when Dalinar sees Ishar’s Honorblade, he doesn’t have the same recognition he does for Jezrien’s Blade, which is the most familiar to him; this could be a continuity error, or maybe indicative of something else. And during the battle, when Dalinar does the tally of people with him, Amaram wields Oathbringer alone. As far as I can tell, Amaram doesn’t use Helaran’s Blade until he fights Kaladin. Finally, there is the matter of Honorblades' behavior. When Taln drops his Honorblade, it doesn't vanish. This is meant to be a big clue as to its nature. Amaram drops Helaran's Blade twice in his fight with Kaladin, and it vanishes. Szeth also drops Jezrien's Blade in the fight with Gavilar, and the “bond” so to speak doesn’t appear to be broken. Szeth is able to resummon the Honorblade after being parted from it. No mention is made of where it ended up or if it vanished as he dropped it. My only explanation for this is that perception could be at work here. Szeth believes that the Honorblade should take ten heartbeats to summon, and it does. Perhaps Amaram likewise believes that a Shardblade should vanish when it is dropped, and so as it leaves his hand, it vanishes. Ishar demonstrates that the Honorblade, like a living Shardblade, can wink out of existence for a second and return in a flash. To summarize: I think it’s possible that Helaran was given the Lightweaver Honorblade by Nale, who gained access to it when Ishar reclaimed his own Honorblade. It’s not clear to me why he would do that, although Mraize says that Helaran was recruited with “displays of power” and that Helaran impressed Nale. Could Nale have shown Helaran how it would be possible to Surgebind without bonding a Cryptic? Then Helaran uses it to position himself behind Amaram’s lines. Maybe as an enemy combatant on the field of war, the kill is “legal?” This is still a mystery to me. Helaran is then killed by Kaladin. Eventually the Honorblade ends up with Amaram, who is completely ignorant of what it really is, and somehow it conveniently hopscotches anyone who could identify it. The Blades are awarded to then Rock, who "insists that they cannot be used" according to his daughter. They "gather dust in their box" until he returns to the Horneater Peaks. I find this idea extremely interesting, but a bit tenuous! I've done my best to cover all the things I can think of on my own, for and against. I specifically like Helaran's Shardblade being the Lightweaver Honorblade for the thematic connection to Amaram's lies, and because it's a simple, elegant explanation for the things about Helaran that don't quite make sense otherwise. But it seems to rely on those who could see it for what it is to simply not be around, for certain lapses of curiosity, and for Nale to be totally okay with losing an Honorblade. The gemstone is also located in the wrong place according to the art, which I am not 100% is really usable as evidence, and when it gets dropped, it vanishes ... Despite all this, I still thought it would be a fun theory to share.

We do know that at the very least medallions and normal F-nicrosil do not function the exact same, though we do not know the differences.

The limiting factor is probably how many Metalborn they can make disappear without people asking questions. Most Metalborn powers are incredibly useful and so their owners would be missed if they got their soul ripped into chunks and stapled to someone else. It is also possible that the decay factor that affects every spike based on how long it sat unattended messes with Compounding's effectivity. Or...it could just be that they don't want to waste good powers like that on grunts and reserve it as a promotion bonus for their higher-rankers.

Starsight (this one's kinda crem but it's funny)

I WAS VERY VERY CLOSE TO KILLING YOU Lol I had that bribe ready to go I was absolutely going to get you exed and claim Kandra in thread and convince the villagers to help me, should you have lived and the game continued.

Psh a traitor only in name wait actually Because I did an oopsie >> WHICH I should probably explain. Cause I figured out why the heck I used the elim kill instead of the kandra kill, and I have a half-adequate reason :P. So, once I was converted I figured out that I needed a misexe, one of each alignment killed, another misexe, one of each alignment killed. And that would be 0-0-1 and my win. Looking at the roles and the lack of a Thug I'm fairly certain that could have worked, making this worse, especially since Drake apparently didn't Blackmail me to target myself which was the other thing that could go wrong. But anyways. On D5 when I worked this out, I figured that since Bip had a Coinshot Medallion (How there were 2 kills plus Araris' death N4) she would try to target 2 villagers, and I needed only one to die otherwise the whole thing would be jeapordized. So right then and there midway through D5 I determined I needed to sabotage the elim kill, which in that scenario is actually exactly what I needed to do. But then I managed to convince Bip to double-tap Dannex, not connecting those dots and inadvertently sabotaging my own plan. If I had used the kandra kill, or if Bip's last-second action hadn't gone through, it would be D6 and Ash would be dead. Which I guess if Bip was gonna exe me anyway there wasn't a whole lot I could do (:P) but if I had convinced her to exe Drake somehow I could have killed her and Archer fairly easily for the win, or maybe she would have beat me to the kill again idk. But it does kind of bug me how... well this could have gone. It always looks that way in retrospect, I feel. Anyway, it was my own fault and I still had an absolute blast playing, thanks to my wonderful (former) teammates @Biplet (who outsmarted me in the end), @Ashbringer (who shares my title as the only players to be all three alignments in the two runs of this game) and @Lotus (who my predecessor slayed N1) and of course @StrikerEZ and @Young Bard, the dedicated and amazing GMs. Do run this again, and again Edit: And I hope @Araris Valerian forgives me for messing this up after he brilliantly set me up in such a good position. You did well.

I was actually surprised at how many other answers I got. I mean, how many rulers conduct ethically questionable experiments with a research partner? Apparently a lot more than I though, lol!

There are many different planets. Scadrial. Roshar. Threnody. These are all a part of one universe, the cosmere. But these planets are in one small piece of a galaxy within an, as far as I can see, infinite universe. The first layer. There are other universes. The various Earths. The land of the Epics, the world of Rithmatists, many others. But the key is that there exist universes governed with different laws: the speed of light, ratio of mass to energy to magic, the… permeability of the universe in question. The second layer. This is where things get complicated. Each of these universes in the multiverse is quite different. The world of Shadowblaze is quite different than the world of Radiants. But there are more. Imagine a Rosharan who enjoys breaking Vorin customs rolls a six-sided die. They have a one-in-six chance of rolling each value. In one universe, they will roll a value at random. In the multiverse, the one universe will split into six, one new universe for each potential result. However, the Rosharan is clumsy, and a third of the time their die falls of the table. A third of the time it lands on a nearby rug. A third of the time it stays on the table. Suddenly the split into six becomes a split of eighteen. An additional die will turn it into thirty-four universes. Of course, the small colony of bacteria growing on the die creates millions of times that number as they grow, divide, and move. The third layer – for every action, a universe will exist for a result. Every. Action. Even with the power I hold, comprehending that is plainly impossible. Fortunately, I do not need to. I no longer exist within a universe; I simply sift between them, a... spider on the threads of the multiverse. Peering in, searching for ones where the die was cast in a favorable manner. They are few and far between... but there are things to look for. Eventually, I will find a timeline that is useful to me. That is where my Harbingers come in. I used to think I was fated to rule the world, to create a peace throughout the universe. But the universe is far too small for my... ambitions. For now, I am lost, pouring through, looking for weaknesses I can exploit, powers I can manipulate, anything that acts as a lead. I have yet to find one. But I have made quite a discovery in my current venture, aided by AraRaash. Not one of the multiverse. Not even one that I should have needed to discover, but my intent has been elsewhere. So it is quite something. Solemnium.

Not magic system but please turn down the metaphors, it feels more like a political statement than a story.

In espionage, a "sleeper" agent is just someone who has successfully infiltrated the target country, but is not actively doing anything (gathering intelligence, performing operations, etc). I suspect Taravangian's sleepers are just regular men & women who are loyal to the Diagram or Kharbranth.

I was re-reading the section where Mr. T ascended to Odium, and something caught my attention. Chapter 113 (Italics as per original text) That sounds to me as though Taravangian was losing hope, and some external force helped tilt the scales in his favor. And what external force was that? Bravery, otherwise known as Valor! What do we know about Valor? Sazed to Hoid - Epigraph to Chapter 25 We know that Hoid hated Rayse and was looking for a way to bring him down. Perhaps he did take Sazed's advice and approach Valor again. If Valor did indeed affect the situation here, that explains so much: Why did Brandon feel the need to give us 4 new Shard names? So that he could hide the foreshadowing for Valor. What exactly was the deal with Hoid's conversation with Todium in the Epilogue? Given his dealings with Valor, Hoid knew that Taravangium had Ascended to Odium. This conversation was his way of getting a feel for the newest Odium. The scene felt strange because Hoid does not want to let Taravangian know that he knows about the replacement, so he hid those relevant memories in the coin. Could one mortal really take down a Shard? Well yes, but it still seems odd that one person was able to out-plan a Shard. Okay, so maybe this was Cultivation's planning. But could a plan with so many moving pieces really work flawlessly without support? It's much easier if another Shard helps out at the pivotal moment.

Rather than choosing a child champion the same prophecies are fulfilled if Odium's champion kidnaps Gavinor, and attempts to execute him in the presence of people at Urithiru in an attempt to goad somebody who is not the champion prior to the fight to save him. This would violate the safe passage promise. and has some other advantages from the perspective of odium. 1) If the plan goes awry Odium's champion could still defeat Dalinar's champion because the plan doesnt require Dalinar being his own champion but it still might work if Dalinar is his own champion if somebody such as Kaladin is present (Possibly creating a Tien flashback moment) . Odium knows his predictive ability is not infallible so this is a far easier bet to hedge than say picking a child champion then having Szeth ram Nightblood into the kid's chest. 2) Instead of winning the contest it violates the terms, which is possibly a better outcome for Odium. 3) It fits with Taravangian's brutal, direct style 4) It could possibly lead to Dalinar becoming Odium's pet while still alive and because an oath is violated the stormfather possibly becomes a deadeye. 5) If odium loses in this case (Dalinar is champion and rescues Gavinor) it could still justify things like Dalinar permanently turning the stormfather into a sword by acting on his combat instincts instead of his judgement. 6) Narratively its more satisfying because it rubs personal salt in the wound and philosphy disagreement between Taravangian and Dalinar

I'm glad you had a lot of fun playing this game! For those who haven't read the Kandra doc yet, Araris ended up getting Kandra again 2/6 times, so we just had to give it to him again since it was so funny. And I'm really glad that you liked the game. I'm excited to run the literal next LG, LG78, with @Biplet! It's gonna be a Legend of Zelda game.

The guy with the Y who survived the Wind’s Pleasure? He accompanied Shallan in Kharbranth?

The one thing I worry about with this is like...it would feel weird to me for the elims to not have won if it comes down to only elims and the Kandra left. Like, if there’s no village left at all, the elims should win. Maybe something where village can only win once all non-villagers are dead, and elims only when all villagers are dead? And the Kandra still wants to be the last player alive. This way I think the game could last longer and the Kandra has more incentive to keep some villagers alive while also being threatened by them. This is a good point about the Skimmer role, and wasn’t something I was thinking about before. I think having some sort of other tapping ability besides just a roleblock would work well. I don’t think roleblocking multiple people for the cost of one action makes sense, but I think doing something where it leaves someone unable to take any actions for a certain amount of turns would be interesting. I’ll think about this. As for the Spinner, that’s definitely something I’ve already thought about. About halfway through the game, I already went ahead and started working on a v3 of these rules, and that was one of the first things I changed. I mean, I put in the Investigator because I made the elim team smaller, so the Investigator would have worse odds of finding an elim, and I gave the elims a Thug to basically make up for the fact that there were less of them because of the Investigator. Alignment scanners are dangerous yeah, but I don’t think they’re a huge detriment. Plus there was the Pulser, who could make the Investigator useless if they found out who it was. I think I’m a future run I’d make the Hazekiller a single action roleblock while the Leecher and Skimmer are total roleblocks.

No problem! I'll try to keep things up to date with Dark One and some of the smaller projects.

I did something like MarRiis or something in the writeup because AraRiice just felt...strange to me. Plus it’d be a little confusing with AraRaash also floating around out there. I mean, there’s a reason I run games in the summer. Don’t have much time to do it during the school year. I could maybe get a rerun of this game in just before the AG? But if I’m gonna do that, I’d rather do one of the other ideas I’ve got in the waitlist, and save this ruleset as a yearly event type thingy each summer. Or at least, every summer until I get too busy to keep doing it.

bet thats what you’ll be saying to people right before you pull it off again

Oh rip the elims had more moneys than I thought I didnt think any of them could have afforded a bribe Welp I guess its a comfort of a sort that a redirect during the night probably would not have worked anyway Anyways I’m only on my phone so not many words to say yet but for now Elims you played excellently kept us running in circles a lot we never even exed one of you Ash the skimmer thing really threw me off lol Bip i did not see it coming you sneaky IKYK master Matrim your ability to survive against all odds is both impressive and annoying to deal with smh you werent even the thug My village friends, we fought well. It was surprisingly close. Sorry I screwed up the D4 vote Striker and Bard, man this game is complicated and thank you even just for reading all of my ridiculous monologues in the gm pms when you probably has a thousand better things to be doing. I remember LG66 fondly and this one was definitely a worthy successor

Woo! Really great clues, they pointed to a pattern forming number of characters in Sanderson's books, almost Crichton-esque. Im going to be busy-ish for the next few hours, next post is the host

Wow, I magically popped to the top of the LG list! I won't be able to run a game until July because I ALSO have a family vacation, and I don't even know if I'll have internet or not. Does Hawaii have internet? no clue

And that's the turn! No more posting or submitting actions! Is that the end of the game though? Find out on the next episode of Sanderson Elimination!

I can't see that being the case, given Sanderson's Laws of Magic, someone being able to become arbitrarily powerful with no drawback flies in the face of what seems to be a cornerstone of the worldbuilding of the cosmere. On the metallic arts being his favourite, is this based on the WoB where he was asked what power he himself would like to have? Because him wanting to be able to "fly" with steel does not mean that steel allomancy is the be all, end all of cosmere magics, it just means that Brandon would like to have that ability. Yes, you can make a compounder of anyone with a medallion, I agree, I was mostly pushing back against the idea of creating a double compounder from a metalborn using a medallion, as three power medallions are, to the best of our knowledge, exceedingly rare. Assuming roughly the same rate of birth for each twinborn combination (which isn't the case, I know, because feruchemy has an uneven distribution, but this is what we have to work with) and an upward population trend, increasing exponentially, which leads to a higher absolute number of metalborn over time and a human lifespan of ~80 years. Wax is the third known crasher, and given how the population mechanics work, it's possible the second is still around or that their lives overlapped to some extent (higher absolute population). Judging from this, we can assume that, at present, there might be two of any given type of twinborn running around. Say we wanted to make a c-steel, c-gold soldier, given a two power medallion, we have four possible starting points: two each c-steel, a-steel/f-gold, a-gold/f-steel and one c-gold (Miles being hecka dead skews this one) for a total of seven candidates. If we assume that there's a fairly equal age distribution, then 25% are 20 or younger, with a large chunk of this age span being unfit to fight, on account of physical and mental maturity and ability, 25% are 61+ and I'd wager that they're not fighting fit either. This leaves us with ~50% of the candidates (21-60 and late teens), let's say 4 people who you can make double compounder super soldiers, 4 people who if captured, killed or put out of commission for some other reason are irreplacable, until a new one is born/grows up. Will these people be very impactful on a battlefield? Undoubtedly. Will they instantly swing the conflict in Scadrial's favour? Probably not. We're talking about people where even a trade 1:100 with surgebinders is ultimately worth it for Roshar. I've already taken the position that, given the dissemination of medallions, Scadrial has the better baseline, the better troop quality, as any soldier can be an allomancer (more helpful than feruchemist unless you have people whose sole job is compounding more attributes for other people) or double allomancer depending on how easy medallions with two powers are to make or any combination of two metalborn abilities. Scadrial might also have the higher peak potential, though limited by birthrates (double compounder practically needs a twinborn) but Roshar has the higher average potential, which is only limited by spren populations and suitability of temprament. I'm not sure what you mean by "resonant twinborn," please explain. If it's a connection to an entity that isn't themselves how is that not manipulable? I could possibly see such an "intrinsic" connection being harder to steal, on account of it probably being a bit more permanent than a nahel bond, but I don't think that precludes messing with it. And pulling Ishar's "the floor is radiant" shenanigans on them should still be applicable. On the other hand, you're not stealing a person's entire connection to a shard, you're stealing the power/conduit, similar to hemalurgy, aren't you. They can detect rhythms of others burning metals, not tones of mist or Well (even regular Bronze mistings did not hear well, and they were stronger in Era 1). Rosharan could intuit those properties of mists based on their pre-existing experience with other gaseous investiture. F-zinc burner has nothing to work off as you yourself say. Yep, this. Scadrians might have better tools to work from than Rosharan humans, but they have no knowledge base to reach the point of trying and seekers are not naturally attuned to detect non-allomancy, we've never seen anyone seek feruchemy even, so they'd probably need training to detect the weird sounds of other shards. Rosharans, on the flipside, have the knowledge base, but possibly less ability to apply it easily, unless singers could attune Scadrial once they got there. (Singer seeker pov when?) I'm sorry, I'm not sure what this is meant to say? Only surgebinders with gravitation have been shown to use gravitation? I don't understand how this is relevant when their shared power is being discussed. Or are you saying that we've not seen this from the shanay-im? In that case we know that their powers manifest differently, just as with all brands of fused (apparently.) Going by these WoBs, you couldn't just steal someone's surges, you'd get the whole bond and, unless you, per the second WoB, had a way to prevent the spren from severing the bond (which is apparently possible, but I'd guess not known how at the moment, based on both the lack of hemalurgy knowledge and it not being applicable within the scope of hemalurgy on Scadrial) you'd stand there with a nice hole in your soul and one of the bondsmith spren might have a grudge angainst you, personally. Also, even if you could prevent the spren from severing the bond, there's nothing saying that not acting in line with the oaths is safe, so you might just end up with a deadeye (or once/if that issue is fixed, you might still break the bond, even if the spren can't) and you might be unable to advance in oath level, either because the spren won't cooperate or because hemalurgy is "static," with you just stapling a power to your soul and getting what was left after the hemalurgic decay, or both. And after all that, you'd be left with worse surgebinding (on account of hemalurgic decay, I assume in this case that it'd weaken the connection, as the spren itself decaying seems weird, let it sit long enough and you might not get a blade no matter if you spiked a fifth oath) and no known way of powering it off Roshar (it should be possible with the metallic arts, the same as it's possible to awaken with stormlight, but seeing as one of the best awakeners ever hasn't figured out that second one, I'll assume it's not simple) and even if you could use metal/feruchemical stores to fuel it you wouldn't get the benefit of that burn/those stores as the power'd go to your surgebinding instead. ¤_¤

The guards are traitors. That was the only logical explanation. Juno and the rest of them had run around in circles, casting suspicion liberally upon each other and generally seeking to out the rebellion. One by one, they were executed. One by one, they were proven innocent. Proven innocent by the evidence found in their personal effects, which the guards never bothered once to search before pulling the trigger. The explanation was clear. The guards are traitors. This whole council was a sham, a way to give them something to do and an illusion of progress while the guards went about their bloody business. And the worst part was, Juno had no idea what she could do about it. It's not as if she was much of a fighter, that simply wasn't what the Board of Somethingorother did at all. What was there to be done? The silver lining was that the folks of the council were finally getting along... Sort of. Well, maybe it wouldn't be that bad. Juno had been hedging her bets like a good politician, and it wasn't like the People's Republic of Elendel was all that great, anyhow. Maybe they could all reach an understanding, if they just worked at it. "Hey, rebs, I wanna talk. I'll be at the empty marketplace in maybe an hour, coming wearing masks or whatever if you like, but lets just talk. For now I'm goin for a walk." With that Juno rolled out of a window in the council chamber and started walking away.

Inconceivable!! This defense has torn through every one of my very serious reasons leveled against you! My vote has been scoured away in the searing light of truth and superior common sense (but a metaphorical light, of course, because it is a night cycle and the sun is down). Matrim's Dice what do you have to say for yourself? Your argument is sound and I see no reason not to trust you, have a nice day night.

Two days and a night she’d spent in that cell that wasn’t a cell, until they’d ushered her to another room, locking her away with the rest of the council members to decide their fate. And yet, there were still dark corners, shrouded hallways, rooms tucked away behind pillars. Dead bodies on the floor. And all that time, all that time, those damned council members had only thought about themselves. No thought of protecting others, of doing their duty to their people. Not once had Shara heard a single councilman discuss making lives better in all her years of working for them. It was all economics, how to control the poor, why wages shouldn’t be regulated. Lies and exploitation. That’s all they ever were. She’d had enough. Years spent in poverty, climbing her way from the depths of the pit of hunger and homelessness on ladders of bones, scraping together coins to buy books and pave her own education with bricks made of her blood. She’d bled for these council people to make their fancy laws, to eat lavishly while her family and friends starved. They bought their education with money inherited from generations of men who stepped on those beneath them. She’d had enough. Earl Euphemie: deceased Sweeper: deceased Walker: deceased Myra: deceased Illwei: deceased Zara: deceased Magrait: deceased Azmine: deceased Lumen: deceased TJ: deceased Bill Door: deceased Veren: deceased Shara’s fists clenched. Years of doing his work. Years of writing his policies, filling his paperwork, writing papers for him to present as his own. Years without being asked where she had come from, years of him not helping those she loved. Years of him ignoring the pain and suffering of others. Iden: alive She had had enough.

The Mistborn in 11th Metal that Kelsier fights Not Gemmel and starts with an S

This character has performed experiments.

Should be: R-Second = 1.387584 E-Second That is assuming it was 50 R-Seconds per R-Minute 1 R-Minute = 1.15632 E-Minute 1 R-Hour = 0.9636 E-Hour 1 R-Day = 0.803 E-Day 1 R-Year = 1.1 E-Year

I came up with this theory ages ago. That's why I asked about it haha. And I still love it. Good point with the thermodynamics, but let's note that there are some laws of thermodynamics in regards to investiture we don't know about yet. Or at least I don't know about it. I've been out of the loop for 2 years so don't blame me too much. For the record, I think fabrials will probably be how Roshar reaches FTL.

I hope this is not a shock to you, but that is beyond my predictions. So let me explain. "So you went back... and changed what you did. Changed us." "No, not technically," AraRaash said. "Oh, this is nice, we can talk together. But all I did was change the spike. The Blessing. You and I... we're the same. Mostly the same, at the least." Faleast ran through the past few years. Nothing seemed to have changed, but he hadn't gone back with AraRaash. He wouldn't remember... whatever had happened before AraRaash changed things. Blast, he could have done anything to his past, and he'd have no idea. "Faleast. I swear, all I did was swap out the spike. Sure, that might butterfly effect something, but it wouldn't be a Divergence." "Maybe you didn't do anything... but if Lamentation can hide that from us, who knows what he did?" AraRaash didn't say anything for a while. "He didn't. I just... know he didn't. The PRE still won, we still escaped barely. So now..." "We just finish what we started," Faleast said. "Fine. But this is going to need a long explanation."

I think it's the opposite. What I heard Brandon say when talking about definitive endings is that he regrets teasing a sequel that's now been promised, because now he's obligated to write it but the wait hurts the fans (and also haunts him). He's apologizing for the long wait as well as the sequel hook. Outside of just that, Brandon's pretty open on what books he plans on giving us versus what books he'll give us if he has time; The Atzlanian falls in the first category, but it's not a major priority, so it's hard to deal with. Also, if it's any consolation, in the State of the Sanderson 2020 post, the user Inkthinker on Reddit (I can't remember if that's Isaac's username or Ben McSweeney's username...I think it's the former) notes that Brandon may try to squeeze in The Atzlanian during his time to write Mistborn Era 3, if Brandon feels like he needs a break.

I agree with the idea that Hoid's meeting with Odium was meant to distract his attention away from something else that was happening, and I have a theory about what it is. In Oathbringer, Jasnah is practically chomping at the bit to explore Dalinar's visions. However, she has to stop after Odium becomes aware of them - the participants are apparently vulnerable within the visions and they aren't able to keep Odium out. She probably laments this situation to Wit at some point off-screen, and he proposes to distract Rayse long enough for her to find out discover what she's looking for. Which vision would be worth going to all this trouble over? Well, consider how badly both Jasnah and Dalinar want to interrogate the Heralds. They've kept Taln and Ash as prisoners honored guests for the past year, repeatedly interviewing them despite Ash's insistence that they have nothing more to offer. Dalinar risked much to meet with Ishar, despite his insanity. Now consider that there is a vision containing a Herald who is not insane, and possibly more than that. From Oathbringer Chapter 42 (Consequences): From the Prelude, we know that Kalak was the last to arrive; Jezrien's speech probably occurs right after their conversation. If Jasnah and Dalinar rush to the meeting place instead of participating in the battle, they could probably catch the two if them. Depending on how long the vision is, they might even catch the rest of the Heralds before they depart. This could present an opportunity to ask them important questions about the Oathpact. Now, this theory does have a problem - the Stormfather explicitly told Dalinar that attempts to extract more information than what Honor intended to convey would reveal how flimsy the visions are. But both Dalinar and Jasnah seem desperate enough for information that they might attempt a plan like this. Another problem - the highstorm has already come and gone by the time of Hoid's meeting. Dalinar is able to enter & pull other people into the visions while the highstorm is elsewhere over Roshar, but it's not clear if he can do so once the storm has passed beyond Shinovar/Aimia.

I'm taking a coding class right now, going over the basics of the Python programming language- and I made a thing! The Sanderson Theory Generator. The idea for making this I think originated from something I saw on Scratch that did something similar. I'm not really sure, that was a long time ago. So I didn't come up with the concept of this, but I did write the code. To be honest, I don't know if it will open I have Python downloaded on my computer, so it just opens the file and runs the program, but for all of you guys who (probably) don't I'm not sure if it will even work. Hopefully it does If not, (or if so) I'd like to know. Here it is: Sanderson Theory Generator.py

I personally think that Hoid did make a mistake there. We know that he sometimes fails (on Sel for example), and Fortune is not fool proof. I think that he had no goal outside of taking some potshots at Rayse, because he managed to get him to agree to contract which should protect Hoid from his direct action. Hoid seems to love when he gets away with stuff right under other people's noses, and this would be one of the best things we pulled, and he pulled it on Rayse whom he has a grudge with. So now thinking he is protected, and knowing that Rayse is not the sort to try anything but brute force due to his arrogance (Rayse seems to act like textbook Narcissist in both Oathbringer and RoW), decided to bask in his own greatness and thumb his nose at Rayse. However, Hoid lacked a crucial piece of information, that Rayse was replaced by Taravangian. Even with Fortune this information would be denied to him, as it happened due to actions of Renarin. Everyone thinks that Szeth killed Vargo with Nightblood, and evidence seems to support it so he would have no reason to suspect anything else. So lacking this crucial knowledge that his opponent is now someone much more crafty and measured, he goes to the fateful encounter and we get to see someone best Hoid for the very first time.

I agree, self-improvement is a component of the oaths of all the Orders but as the Order with the most power and influence, their third Oath would've been better aimed towards responsible use of their authority, as the Order tending towards the theme of uniting people, this becomes very important to build mutual trust.

There's more than just moderation issues here too. We also tend to avoid confrontation and try and use the mods as intermediaries. I mean... @Chaos is the only person I know of who has ever spoken to me about the content of my posts. And on the occasions that that's happened, I wasn't aware that it was because of a report. No poster that I'm aware of has ever told me publicly or privately that one of my posts was out of line. I've either come to that conclusion myself, and added an edit to clarify, on rarer occasions realized I should have just shut up and chose to use the "hide post feature." Or on a few occasions, I've been dealt with by Chaos personally. Theres never been a step between self-moderation and Mod intervention, and frankly I think that's part of the issue. I know that I can be fairly abrasive at times, and it is by no means intentional. My self-moderation is much more strict than it used to be after a couple of incidents that I have been involved in that in retrospect were completely my fault. You learn from things and try to do better. If something I say offends, feel free to send me a message. I guarantee it's not intentional.