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Jasnah has the biggest skills with using her Radiant powers, as he has nearly 10 years of experience. But this is necessary for her, as she's using transportation and transformation surges, that require a lot of expertise. Kaladin is a great soldier, he also has years of experience with fighting and is one of the most skilled fighter on Roshar. And as we've seen in RoW that even without surges and Shardblade he is still extremely dangerous, more dangerous than Jasnah would be in that situation for sure (as she struggled fighting with one Fused without her Radiant powers). And I would add to this list also Szeth and Dalinar. Szeth as he also is experienced with most of the surges, he is an excellent fighter, able to fight multiple Shardbeares and half-shards with just his bare hands and surges, and what's most important, he now has the sword that kills everyone with a single touch. He stopped Ishar, Herald with 7000 years of fighting experience and Honorblade. And Dalinar for his dozens of years of fighting - he is the most experienced warrior on Roshar. Of course, not counting Heralds or Fused or Vasher.

Yes, any God metal can be made into spike, like Trellium was, Raysium as well. What would they do, we don't know. Conducting properties of Raysium are most likely not the same as its Hemalurgic properties. That being said, you can use regular 16 metals to steal any power, any ability, any connection and anything they allow to take from any place within Cosmere. You just need to use specific metal to acquire what you want. You can steel Nahel Bond with spren from Radiant, though spren can break that bond. You can steal bond with Aviars and powers they give You can steal Divine Breath, or any investiture or attributes and powers people have. So basically you can steal anything everywhere, you just need to have correct metal for a spike, and know how to do it.

Well tbf I don't know, I just put some big number to it. Most likely lashings would be a rosharian g as that's what Radiants are familiar with, so with a black hole of that size it would be near infinite amounts of lashings. So do not open the portal to a black hole. Buuuuuut, why not just take ridiculous amounts of investiture and collapse it to small space, to create your very own, pocket black hole. Perfect! Full Radiant doesn't need a portal, he could just made one. And you don't need sun-masses of investiture, the smaller the better, gem-mass black hole would evaporat from Hawkins radiation within fraction of the second and explode, killing Fullborn in the instant - while Full Radient would transfer through perpendicularity to probably safe CR. Wax saw her moving moving from a window to a governor resistance. So that's not that fast. And in the governor's brother home, Bleeder still moved much slower than a speed of sound. Leeching through the plate would be extremely difficult if nearly impossible, and when Full-Radiant opens perpendicularity in his hand, any damage to a plate would mean nothing, as it will just heal instantly using light from perpendicularity. He could soulcast away his metals and Fullborn is gone just to Allomancer. The moment Radiant opens perpendicularity Fullborn can't win. Speed is the only way for him to strike, and even striking with a lot of weight and strength, he would have to be able to withstand the same strike that he delivers to Radiant - 3rd law of motion - and that's the problem, as any strike that he can heal (no mater of tapping pewter), Radiant can as well. Snapping neck won't kill Radiant. Fullborn is ridiculously powerful, but Full-Radiant us just on the another level - he is bale to manipulate fundamental forces of the Cosmere. This is just shard powers.

Half-lashing up wouldn't be enough the moment you open a portal to 60bil. solar masses hole in space. You would literally need like 30bil lashings away from portal or even much more depending on distance from the black hole the portal is opened. That ridiculous. The moment you open the portal, gravity is affecting you as well. Or the portal itself might get ripped by gravity and collapse. Even with perpendicularity in your hand, I doubt you could not get pulled into it, as that would be almost shard level of investiture just to prevent you from falling into it. And not to mention that you opening a portal to a place billions years in the past and there is not black hole there anymore as it just moved an you don't know where it is currently. But cool idea, love it anyway, but there are better places to teleport Fullborn into - just send him to the space close to the sun. That's it, but you either use that 10x speed in an instant burst of power, or store it in metal mind. And to compound everything, all the times you would need to have a lot of metals waiting in your stomach. F-steel does have its limits. Even with A-pewter and F-gold, you get to the point when air resistance will make you slow down faster than F-steel speeds you up - and you would require constant gold compounding healing and pewter just so you wouldn't be burned down by the air. I can't see how anyone would be able to win a fight with full Radiant. That is just ridiculous amount of powers for one person. Even with F-steel, all full Radient needs is to open perpendicularity and you can't kill him. He can soulcast air around into whatever toxic gas he wants, soulcast ground into the Sun, and soulcast Fullborn metal minds into something, removing Fullborn's power completely. Fullborn even with Atium seams just weak compared to him. Fullborn is ridiculously powerful already, but full Radient is a demi-god. However I doubt there ever will be one, and there was Fullborn already. Not to mention, if full Radiant is binded by all oath, which might restrict his powers a lot. Still he will win. Depsite all the powers full Radiant would have, I would still choose to be Fullborn, as that just offers me a bit more useful feruchemic attributes, like mental speed, or determination. The biggest downside to it, is that I would not have 10 sprens flying around me and being Awesome - this is the biggest advantage of being full Radiant!

However these were asked before RoW and before Kaladin got his plate. Shardplate gives him a huge advantage in a fight, so Kelsier would need some sort of miracle to get behind a plate. That's why I think Kaladin would win - unless being stabbed while sleeping is still part of the fight, then Kelsier wins. And you should edit out TLM spoilers from here, or put it in a spoiler tag.

Some yes, most, including main team, no. There were some instances of armor, like full plate armor appears few times, or some officers wearing breastplate, one was not protected from being cut and disemboweled. But uniforms are constantly described: in the camps, on the battlefield etc. Armor not so much. In my opinion there should be much more armor description than there is. No uniforms on the battlefield, just armor.

There are little to none armor on the soldiers in the books, most of them are running around a battlefield with only uniforms on them, some pov characters even got an armor and never used it. And when armor does appear it doesn't do what it should have - protect. The only exception is Shardplate. There is so many different swords in his books, but only like 3 armors, which is much more important on the battlefield.

The problem is, this WoB is only talking about lashing and using other Radiant abilities on something/someone invested like lashing shardplate, or Radiant breathing in light from shardplate. It's not the same as leeching. If it was the same for leeching, than leeching misting that activity burns iron would be very hard - however this is not the case. Nale's larkin also didn't have any trouble leeching Lift's light as she was Awesome at that moment. So leeching is clearly an exception. Leeching is able to stop summoning the Shardblade. I would say that if Skybreaker would use division on Mistborn that is touching him, that investiture pushed into division might be the first to be leech off.

How I've missed that extrema effect of duralumin powered Atium that was able to pass through Marsh's Atium? That alone is a huge deal. But Eland now saw the Preservation plan? That is massive. But I agree, electrum would focus only on misting life, but most likely entire life in different possible ways. And pure Atium with duralumin could see even more. TLM spoilers It seams that Scadrial really have the best future visions in the entire Cosmere, rivaled only by Shards.

She only needs to live for more than 10000 years... (I put more in spoiler as I don't know how much you know about Cosmere and Hoid - not much spoilers there just some general Hoid things) Other than all of the above, she is on a straight way to be new Hoid. But she already made few guys red from embarrassment and anger. However I agree a bit differently, she would make a great storyteller - she already told a few of them in engaging way, and she can definitely aspire to be a new Hoid of storytelling. And if she goes to a wider Cosmere, she would collect and learn all kinds of stories.

Unable to refill regular medallions? Quotes? And how does weight medallions works when they are just tapped and filled? They have telegraphs on Scadrial? They have trains, industry, gun production and Wax was able to acquire full, expensive and specialized laboratory equipment. Electricity might even already get to Roughs at the end of TLM. I agree that would be the hard part. But as it is said in the WoB - make a spike gun and try until it worked. Marsh has the biggest knowledge from all of them and he might have some idea. Set did not have his help. Still calling her Radient is not wrong, she is a Radient but not Stonewards. He asked if Ardets have them, and then laral interrupted. So at least two sets of spanreeds in a town - very little Good? Nah, I just for spelling mistakes after I write a post. There is too many of them in my opinion. But thanks, as long as it's understandable it's good. Again Wayne went from the bottom to the top! Which resulted in his death, because his best friend the king/prince make sure they will never cause any troubles. You can use an example of law privileging rich people as a example of rights pore people "have". I don't need singers, just humans. Scadrials need to convince only humans on Roshar. Human to human. Trellium spikes as they were unknown. Plus regular spikes - I'm not sure about that. It doesn't mean that university will know about plans of invasion of Roshar. University... Yes, I said tensions exist, and they are having an arms race. But are not in war yet. Because making more is hard. And Bands already have all of them. That's why Malwish need them - to study and make better medallions. But Bands are already there, ready to be filled. Radios non - trains are in Roughs. And other new equipment as I mention above Soo try and error? Again, I admitt this is hard part, but this can be done. Most likely in heart or around. Spikes guns! One will work and then they will know. Or experiment on Scadrial before invasion on spiking connection - Ghostbloods can provide them with Aviars as they are basically similar to Nahel Bond I just discovered that i can separate long quotes by pressing enter 2x. I love it!

You suggest that Preservation's power will be decreasing/destroyed under Ruin's pressure. How can a shard's infinite power be destroyed? For decreasing Preservation's power, Harmony would have to purposefully gave up chunk of that power and invest something significantly. Otherwise the power won't go anywhere. It also takes deliberate will and action to splinter a shard. Ruin doesn't have a will of its own. It's controled by Sazed. However both Ruin and Preservation are now one new shard - Harmony. But the Vessel controlling Harmony doesn't act harmoniously, Sazed favors preserving people - he is acting against intent of the shard. More over there is more Ruin than Preservation. Harmony can be change to Discord - then it doesn't matter what action would Sazed favor, it is within Discord intent, and it doesn't matter that there is more Ruin or Preservation. Ruin and Preservation are not clashing with each other - it's a fight between vessel Sazed and intent Harmony. Also no shard is technically evil. Is Ruin negative? Depending how you view it - Ruin is all about increasing entropy - so it can be called positive force as it actions always leads to increase of entropy.

Wayne did They don't know where it is - Ocean current can drift it hundreds of kilometers away until it hits the bottom, kilometers Inter water. It's still in aluminum, so the stone can have troubles in guiding them - and we don't know if Stonewards have exactly the same manifestation of surge like Venli. Most likely not, as Venli is a Listener. ... He asked before Latał showed up. You can't be serious? It don't, there is whole senate, laws and constitution restricting What they can do. Government doesn't possess the entire ground or cities within the Basin, they can't force their own mayor to rule a city. This is not a feudalistic Monarchy like on Roshar. Soryy, I was unfamiliar with the word and it translated as a "rascal/thief" - Wayne went from being among the poorest to the richest and help many other like inventors to climb. Dude killed 2 people and what he get was remote domain to rule over, girl to marry and house and money. Great punishment. And they do, among Singers. And how would they know that, considering the fact that on Scadrial only elite group of loyal soldier trained by Death himself would know how to do Hemalurgy? On Scadrial you have to go, on Roshar you can go - difference. On Scadrial teachers have to know stuff required by the government to met programs of education created by government. Religion figures? Teachings of Arden's are limited to what their holy superiors agree to teach. But I admitt, I'm not much familiar with what poor people are teach on Roshar. Quotes? Roshar is in active war fueled by hatred with many fractions and even with distrust among the same fraction. Scadrial has tension, yes, and won't unify with north and south. But we're not talking about SA10 but SA 5. Kind of - photography was invented in 1839. But it's still not a canon. The band can be easily fill again. You just need like 32 people. And how many of that things are in possession of the remote villagers? 2 spanreeds. And that's all. Considering that the Hemalurgic metals are literally made to steal any kind of connection and it is already all known, I would say it's easy.

Shards don't override one another, they are equal to each other. Power of the Shards don't disappear or get destroyed, power can't be destroy. Also the balance is not needed. Discord might seam worst for us, readers, but for a shard it will be more stable than Harmony. No need for change as Discord already assumes that there is no balance. Sazed can be only balance or no balance. Unless he splinters himself. Sazed is perfect for holding both shards as he his ruinous and preserving

Or it finds new stable state. Two stars with different masses orbit each other in not spherical ans imperfect orbits, but they are stable an will remain in that shape untill stars change, die or get pulled by outside force. There is a deal the Vessels made that force them not to settle in the same system. Most splinter Shards violated that deal and that exploded them - like Dominion and Devotion. Ruin and Preservation agreed to settle and create together and therefore they did not violated that deal. Easily is not the right word. Shards are equal. Ambition and Honor might be splinteres with involvement of multiple shards.

You mean the huge monsters being scared of a Radient? They cool and scary, but not that powerful tbf. Taln is in the same state and he still was able to catch the dart with impossible speed. Even the craziest Fused would most likely still be able to fight - muscle memory The Oathbringer starts slowly, but in the second half it's full of great moments, even the most jaw droping, and emotional moment from SA for me is from OB. And if you like Vasher you will get more of Awakening in OB.

Discord is already unbalanced form for these Shards. Where else can it go from being unbalanced? Preservation is not getting weaker, it's constantly the same, Ruin is also the same. They are not gaining or losing power at this moment. Ruin is stronger just because Preservation gave more of himself to humanity during Scadrial creation. With two shards combined they can only be in harmony or with one of them dominating the other. But now Harmony is not in harmony, Sazed works more on preserving people without providing equal amount of ruining. Unless Sazed gave up one of his shards, I doubt it will end up in total Ruin.

I agree, the Heralds are shown to be masters at fighting, beyond any human capability, and yet Fused seems to be too normal, despite having the same time to master their skills as Heralds. They are a threat, but they are lacking as a fearful enemy.

But the crazy one are still fighting. And there is a reason why before Aharietiam people go back to primitive copper and bronze.

All of god metals are connected to a specific Shard. They are named after its vessel. Bavadium - Bavadin vessel of Autonomy, Raysium - Rayse - vessel of Odium, Atium - Ati vessel of Ruin, Lerasium - Leras vessel of Preservation. The patter is right here. We know the names of all of them. And we don't really have much information about any other god metal and its attributes. Trellium repulsion can be easily connected to Autonomy and its desire for well autonomy. Raysium conducts investiture the same way humans/parsh "conducts" emotions. It fuels fabrials like Odium is fueling emotions. Harmonium is stable but explosive the moment it gets pushed a little - like Harmony himself stable for now with Discord looming closer. Lerasium preserves connections of its alloy partner, and tie it within spiritual web of a person using it. Honor/Cultivation metals are glowing (Shardblades are glowing sooo maybe). The pattern proposed by me is a stretch, I admitt. But that's all we know.

Still disagree on this one, you already tried and you won't convinced me. Ocean is just to insanely vast to found small box in it - we can't find a plane in it, with all the modern tech. Form OB chapters it looks like that - only Laral provides Spanreeds but Kal mention Ardent might have one. And if enough people gather in a city without lord, that city will be the new lord's property, because it ALL belongs to the Archprince and King. Yeah, that's a good thing, we don't want criminals to rule the country. Criminals that were elected to rule just becasue they didn't die are not the best candidats for rulers. Scadrial government already proved it's value, when people arested arrested corrupt together with police. Because there were laws agains corruptions, that could be executed. Roshar doesn't have much of those. Plant oil, local farming and animals, guardposts and people wills to stay on invaders side as they provide more than Roshar. Again, scenario provided to us by @SwordNimiForPresident doesn't require whole population of Scadrial to know Hemalurgy, but just 1000 people. That's not all Scadrial. Not to mention not every bindspot is filled with spike. We were also clearly showed in TLM and Era 1 that few spikes are not enough even for a Shard to mind control someone. Talk to him yes, not mind control. Now hemalurgy is even more restricted. So no, Dalinar doesn't know how to do it. He might heard the name Hemalurgy, and it's about Ruin and powers, but not that with connection he can break them. Only if your local villige Ardent have that knowledge. And you're proving my point - on Roshar YOU have to find a teacher willing and knowledgeable enough to teach you, it is not provided to you by government. Thank you.

But Preservation already broke his deal with Ruin, which cause Leras death. All of what had happened with Preservation in Secret History and Era 1 was because Preservation broke the oath, tricked and trapped Ruin. So it's no longer active, like WoB posted above tells us.

Is that canon? I didn't read it but I heard that Kaladin take Sharblade... From all places they could hide him, bottom of the ocean inside aluminum box is as good as inaccessible. Most RICH families. Spanreeds are still not common among poor people. - from all of the people in Heartstone, only Laral has spanreeds, because she is noble and can afford it, rest can't. Aizsh are quit good on bureaucratic level, to the extreme. Leaving the city is very bad example, as everyone that is not a slave always could do it and relocate, no matter medieval or ancient times. That's not really the right. Very influential to leave the city ruled by noble to another city ruled by noble - nowhere you have any saying about what to do. Considering Roshar's population, compared to spren's - that is extremely rare to occur. And how it helped Moash grandparents? How their killers were punished? Was justice served or they were allowed to cause more harm and devastate another family? Great example. Or, hear me out, they can build a factory ON Roshar and provide Roshar not only with canned food, but with new workplace. By using emotional allomancy. And didn't she earlier experimented this on OreSoon? Dalinar can use connection on 1000 different ways, so intent will be pretty important or he just might connect to them and learn their language or vision of the past and gain nothing useful. So were schools for countryside kids in Vorin culture even mentioned? I don't remember tbf. Pong

I will say, you nailed it - that's how Radiants look like judging from discussions on this forum. But that's what we do here - we're discussing the ultimate limits, thinking of masters of their surges, we cross the line between believable and possible, we explore the theoretical possibilities to extreme. All of that is just for fun, and frustration when we disagree all the times. But that what is happening on this forum not in the books. I really encourage you to finished SA, as this will erase your doubts. The heroes struggles with themselves and their enemies, they have limits and weaknesses. They are decades away from being masters, but separated only by thin red line and collapsing from their trauma and depression. Their actions are determined by what's moral and right to do, and align with their Oaths. And all skills and proficiency with surges are lost when they die. On the other hand they are fighting enemy that is immortal, and can't be killed. Every Fused that they kill will come back and they will have to fight with them again. How to you fight with forces that ignore death? They had 7000 years to master their skills and surges, Radients have at best few months. There is hundreds of them, and still more is coming, Radiants at best 100. And Fused are surrounded by thousands of Regals, that can summon lightning and can also use other powerful abilities. When Radient dies, the one that takes his place has to start from beginning, all the training, all the learning, everything has to be acquired again. When Fused dies, he just comes back during next Everstorm. And Fused have a living god standing behind them and guiding them, all Radiants have is shattered memony of one. And draining out light is a more and more common, you've seen it before, larkin that Nale used on Lift. But there are other ways to do it.

Actually Moon is moving away from Earth at the rate of 3.8 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year, so the Earth's pull on the Moon is weakening as the distance is increasing F=(GMm)/D^2. Also orbit of the Moon is not perfectly spherical, and its distance from Earth oscillate from 362,600 km to 405,400 km, which generate different gravitational pulls on the Moon. Ergo you are wrong.