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They do see each other regularly I do agree, Marsh might play some role in conflict between Sazed and Kel. The relation between those three will be developed as story progress. But I do also think, Marsh will be only a background character.

No, I think Bands go around different people and even TenSoon confirmed they are drained.

Would you stop reading the book just because you spoiled yourself part of the next book? I would never do this, I would just keep reading with one question in my mind "How?". You can start making theories on how did this happen and what would be the ramifications of this, or just keep reading and focus on what is happening currently. There is a lot more to Mistborn than its ending, character arcs and their journey provides much more valuable reading experience, action unfolding and culminating, jokes and inner workings of this world and magic within it. So don't worry, you didn't ruin yourself anything, the amaizing journey and experience is still ahead of you.

Well, what Brandon says is a canon, so if he suddenly decide to change how Fullborn works, then we would be affected by it, sadly.

Perfect! Edit: Every person on Nalthis is halfway to becoming a millionaire.

Let's assume they don't. Let's say they maintained living standards of average US middle class (let's make this a baseline for all costs). How much would they spend yearly on clothes, water, and rent of average size apartment (taxes included in rent for simplicity)?

So there are billionaires already in Cosmere? Are clothes, water, rent, taxes and other basic expenses included in this?

I would be the laziest Fullborn you can imagine. I would attach everything around me to small pieces of metal, so I could push and pull on it without moving, and get and do everything I want to. I would use time bubbles for my convenience. And with feruchemy, thanks to compounding, I would always have full metal minds with me. But, I would want to have some empty ones, as e.g. I would fill bronzemind very often so I could finally sleep as long as I want, while storing tinmind so nothing would disturb me. I would also heal my bad eyesight, or at least replace it with supreme A-Tin and F-Tin compounding. Also compounding energy would allow me to ignore eating on very lazy days (while storing determination to be even more lazy). And then I would excel in mental abilities. I would infuse my copperminds with Brandon’s books, all the WoBs and Coppermind.net and together with Chromium, Zink, Electrum and Bronze compounding I would create the best theories 17th Shard ever seen, and win every debate. And then go back to being the laziest Fullborn possible.

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You don't want to make Harmonium sword. It explodes even in contact with water vapor, not to mention blood. I don't know if simply making Atium sword would be enough to cut like Shardblade, but at very least you would have a Shardblade resistant sword. Nightblood is an attempt on making a Shardblade, and it wasn't just made by giving a sword lots of investiture. Here's WoB on how Shardblade cut Also my mistake, Shardblades cut in all 3 realms. The problem with making anything from god metals, is that they are very rare, and limited, and in most cases require will of the Shard to give you that metal.

Ok, if A-Bronze can be store in Tinmind, than Life Sense most likely as well. I've found a WoB The previuos WoB states, that coppercloud would stop Life Sense, so perfect Life Sense won't penetrate it. However maybe compounded Life Sense could. But perfect Life Sense is a maximum you can get from Life Sense, it is as best as it could be as name suggests, so does it even make sense to make it "better" than the best? It sounds a little like trying to add more water to already filled glass of water. This is a Warbreaker only forum, so spoilers from Mistborn books should be in spoiler box at least.

No they not, but if they are as normal as anywhere else (which Nazh suggest) , Ire would not have a problem with them leaving Threnody. Shades are on the other hand extremely dangerous, and if they manage to leave Threnody, they could exist on the other planets. In order to escape, they have to exist also in CR (they don't look much physical in PR tbf)

No idea. They are most likely so invested that they just cut in 2 realms - Spiritual and Physical. I think there was a WoB that explains how they cut. Splinters are sprens. But when bonded, Sprens can manifest fully in PR as a physical object, by converting themselves into god metal. Thus "metal" is sentient but it's still a spren. Can Bondsmith replicate this? I doubt. They would somehow take huge amount of Stormlight and compress it so it would change state into metal (no idea if that would work). The simplest way is to make new spren, but that's what Stormfather can do, not Bondsmith.

I think the Evil came after Shades were discovered on second continent (that's why it was named Hell). So Ire watching for Shades in CR is confirmation, that they do exist also in CR. From Coppermind on Evil:

Is Life Sense a literal sense or an invested ability? Life Sense detects life, but not Drabs, this means it detects investiture, as it can detect sprens etc. And you can hide in it by fully filling investiture in nicrosilmind. So this WoB provide answer for @QafianSage. It also makes me think that it is an invested ability, thus it would be stored in Nicrosil, not in Tin.

The scoring of technology is in additional points, I wonder if it would be better to make it as multiplier factor for Armed forces. Like e.g. medieval technology as a base x1, guns/explosives x1.5, automatic weapons x1.75 or something like + x0.2 for any crucial advancement in military tech. On top of that WMD, rockets or any more interesting weapons as additional points. But this factor would have to be fairly chosen, not what I propposed. Similarly usage of invested arts in war could also work as multiplier and additional points together. Just throwing it out here to think about it. That would require a great rework and new fair scale. Additional points works as well, but in my opinion are not as good as multiplier factor, because technology will always dominate any medieval army, no matter numbers (on our world).

The whole point of Warbreaker book was to prevent another Manywar, which would ended with total destruction of Hallandren. This clearly suggest, that Idrian coalition would be more powerful force to be recon with. What's more important, Yesteel possess the knowledge of creating Type 4 entities, which would be a total game changer in any military conflict. Thus I suggest including a "Idrian coalition" force to the Armed Forces category. Also Returned has some kind of future visions ability and can act on this, as we've seen with Lightsong. This would potentially mean that Returned would be send with a special task of changing the course of war, which would be hard to oppose and predict. This might be included in Shard section, idk.

Sooo I'm not voicing for a change, more points or anything, I'm just voicing my opinion on this one. Shades being both present in CR and PR, and being enraged by blood, running, and explosions, would make any invasion impossible to conduct. Invasion means fighting, and this means blood, death, running and explosions - this would attract Shades like magnet and make any fights imposible, as now you have to "defend" yourself from Shades. Shades alone would quickly destroy any army. Even silver is damaged when in contact with Shades. Defenders/partisans just need to set up traps and explosives in Forests of Hell which, when triggered, would send army of enraged Shades on your enemy, while defenders are safely sipping bear miles away - like Silence did. Even advancing through CR you have to first avoid all Shades in there. Ire has troops on Threnody's CR border to prevent Shades from escaping. They are a significant danger. And also you have whole continent swallowed by mysterious Evil, which was so dangerous, that humanity abandoned that continent and chose to settle with deadly Shades instead. This continent is very dangerous to visit in CR. This is the only instance in the whole Cosmere, where some force/entity killed and displaced all of humans living there and prevents them from returning (nobody that went to Homeland returned) - not even destruction of Ashyn and Desolations were on the same level. This alone tells that Evil is not a force to mess with. This all makes me think, that it is impossible to contuct a classical invasion of this planet. Invading force would be force to deal with Shades and possibly Evil and Deepest One, not with the sparse defenders. The only way for any invasion to be successful, that I see, is to gather large enough forces outside of Threnody's CR and make an ultimatum, demanding unconditional and total surrender. But, as we know from history, this almost never works, and small partisan group would be enough to decimate any occupying force by sending waves of Shades on them.

Oh, I know that, I just don't know what you consider point worthy etc. As long as description considers all major features and it's fair, I leave giving points to you. They said they watch it, not guard it. They just noticed that Set is coming with investiture through perpendicularity but did not take any actions to prevent it. This gives them more valuable information about Set, which would later be use in fight with them. Revealing themselves in the very beginning would just make them lose this advantage as Set would just find a way to transport it more covertly, which Ghostbloods would not notice anymore. That's great idea. Together with Logistics (both offensive and defensive) proposed before, intelligence (capability of spying in enemy's territory/forces) and counterintelligence (capability of enemy spying in planets's territory/forces, and measures to prevent this) are important factors in war.

What I think you have to first store your identity in Aluminum, and that gives you the ability to make unkeyed metal minds. Then you store your ability of ferring in nicrosil metal mind, which is now unkeyed. But that would leave you without your ferring ability in the end. So that Excisor that Malwish has, have to be able to store your identity and give it back to you (unkeyed aluminum metalmind would work) and then compound your nicrosil mind to grant you double Soulbearer ability - one goes back to you, the other is stored in nicrosil. Then you combine that Nicrosil metalmind with metal of specific ferring ability, that is also unkeyed.

This is part of Dawnshard's after effect that prevents him from causing harm. Eating meat makes Hoid nauseous as well. That's the nature of Dawnshard. The sheer thought of harming someone makes him "suffer".

No, investiture resist being invested - that's why you can't awaken something that is already awaken, and you can't awaken something already invested - like god metals. It would actually take insanely amounts of Breaths to awaken a god metal, as you need to break through that already invested metal resistance to your investiture - so it's nearly impossible. Atium is Atium, it is already an element on Scadrial's periodic table so it won't become steel - but it can be alloyed with steel. It's hard to say if in what form and if Ruin's investiture was used during Nightblood creation, however I doubt it was in physical form, as like written above, awakening invested object is mostly impossible. We know that metal used for blade was steel, so if any Ruin's investiture was used, it would be used alongside Breaths infused into sword to awaken it. OR as Ruin's intent is universally accessible (everyone can use hemalurgy, Ruin care only about increasing entropy) the very command "destroy", which is Ruinous, might unintentionally infused Nightblood with Ruin's investiture. But that's just my thought, we know only this WoB about Ruin and Nightblood: Not exactly, enough Investiture on its own will gain sentience. Odium has his own sprens (splinters) and they are sentience while Odium is not splintered. Splinters are often sentient, and may have its own intent, seperated from Shard's intent. I think the bigger importance on what surges are granted via Nahel Bond is the intent of the spren itself, rather than alloy of its investiture. But tbf I don't know. From Coppermind: No, they all can use only Stormlight, as far as we know, except for Lift, her spirit web was changed by Cultivation and that's why she can use ONLY Lifelight, she creates it form food.

That sounds fun, I want to see the math! Edit: There is approximately 10^67 atoms in our galaxy, so I don't think that's possible to get that number with 16 god metals alloyed with 16 base metals + 15 god metals.

Before I start, I have to say that I'm very content with the changes you made and description seams fair and reasonable. I don't want to sound nitpicking, as it feels uncomfortable after your changes, buuuut Within the Basin there is like 7 rivers/canals, all converging towards the city of Elendel. So the distance between 2 rivers is wider close to the mountains, but closer to the city, this distance is very narrow (triangular shape). That means any inviding force that approaches Elendel, and don't want to cross the rivers, will have to gradually shorten their frontlines and assult the city with basically several kilometers wide frontline - which is very short for a city diameter of like 12-ish km and would be very ineffective. Standard tactic for besieging any city is to encircle it, and assult it from all directions, which for Elendel means crossing all those 7 rivers/canals. However those rivers/canals are not the biggest on Scadrial. Main river, Irongate, is the widest, and flows from outside of the Basin, and would be a serious obstacle, but rest are relativelly small ones - still they would give some defensive positions for defenders, but it wouldn't be that challenging to cross. So while I agree rivers mostly don't provide serious barrier, but there is a reason to cross all 7 rivers/canals within the Basin, as it's necessary to besiege Elendel. Once again, description looks very reasonable and covers fairly all major geographic obstacles on Scadrial towards northern and southern direction of attack - which was my main concern. I don't know precisely how you score it , but I didn't expect it to be rated so high. Thank you for fair review and work done on this

You counted 7/32(+1) metals and call it everything? Time bubbles - I doubt he could make it - Stormfather "space" is not the same. Emotional Allomancy - it's not connection based Pulling/pushing metals to you. F-Steel? A/F-Tin? F-Zink - how would he speed up his mental speed? The only way I see him replicate it is with that Stormfather "space", but its far less effective. F-Copper - kind of forging connections like he did with Tien and Kal, but that's different than remembereing. His language learning would be good replacement. F-Iron - ground trick would gain you weight, but no trick to reduce it. And you have arts like Awakening, can he replicate it? It's much more than connection, it's more tied to Identity. How? How would he get Wakefulness from it? I can't see it. For now Alter fabrials only detect people, not use of investiture. But he might be able to do it with some weird connection, however that's a stretch. Tbf, Bondsmith can just steal all the powers with connection. So yeah, he's op. But he need to touch people to do it, and that's limiting factor.