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I think with a brass mind I think you could get rid of the heat, but that's just one part of the problem. It's like the spaceship entering the atmosphere, that compresses air in front of it, as air can't move fast enough to get out of its way. This generates heat that is transferred into the spaceship. The second problem is the air which is still there, compressed to limits. With that speed every step would feel like running into a solid concrete wall. The air itself would cause you damage. So gold mind is required, and to do it for long, gold compounding. This would require a lot of gold. So it means, you need to be Fullborn to do it. Ultimately he would hit a limit when he can't go any faster as there is just so much air in front of him, which stops him from accelerating.
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Your body is just strong enough to sustain new weight, but not to sustain more damage. If Wax pushes himself from a coin on top of the building and then just slamms into the ground, he would be dead. If he makes himself much heavier, he would still be dead, as the same force is acting on his body (F=ma), and it cannot survive that injury. It's not pewter. You increase mass, speed is decreased, deceleration on impact is also decreased, force is the same. Iron only makes you able to carry your new weight, its not giving you pewter-like strength. You don't gain new strength. 3 law of motion also works here, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You still have the same momentum, the same energy, the same force acting on your very same body. Everything is still the same. And when your body at regular weight can't survive that landing, gaining more weight won't change this. It's not the speed that matters. F=ma. That's what matters. With lower speed you just have lower deceleration "a", but you are increasing "m", force would still be the same. You are switching kinetic energy E=(mv^2)/2 for gravitational one E=mgh. Energy is conserved. You don't have pewter. There is a way to survive a jump from a building. First you store your weight, then you jump, and freefall. Decreasing your weight has no effect on air drag, but it does decrease your terminal velocity, it can go way down to speeds that don't cause injury to human body. That what Sazed did. Increasing your mass is a wrong way to go, as you are increasing your terminal velocity. But if you jump with high mass or push yourself from a coin to add more speed, you now gain more energy. You store weight, gain more speed and can exceed new terminal velocity. Air drag will try to slow you down, but if the height of the fall is too short, you will still have too much energy, and won't survive the fall, as your speed did not decrease fast enough. Even if you start tapping your weight just before impact, you still have too much energy, as you transferring kinetic one to gravitational. Tapping weight is the very opposite thing you want to do to survive a fall. You still get the same energy that is deadly in contact with the ground. You need to get rid of that energy, and air drag is the way - to do it, you need to decrease your weight to reduce your terminal velocity, and air will steal more energy from you, and that's how you would survive that fall - if you have enough time to slow down.
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alder24 replied to KaladinWorldsinger's topic in Mistborn
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Yes, but I was responding to his idea about Wax: I WoA Sazed jumps from high places while having his weight reduced to that of a feather, and can land safely due to air resistance.
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Who would win, the Ultimate Cosmere free for all.
alder24 replied to Frustration's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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alder24 replied to Frustration's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I think with a Bondsmith power, you could disconnect Stormlight from Honor, making unkeyed light, which you could connect to Endowment, creating some sort of Endowment-light, capable of fueling Awakening. However I agree with @therunner, your Awakened blade and plate won't be on the same level as Shardplate or Shardblade, but really close to them. And your Awakened plate can also fight and strike, if you command it to do that, or you could strap to it Mistcloak-like cape with spikes at the ends of each strap, that would attack your opponents. Awakening is able to create a very formitable tools for close quarters. -
Yes, that's how I see it. To add more, for me it's all about differences. I wouldn't call Selish magic Surgebinding (I can see why someone would call it that), but for me Fused Surgebinding is the same as Radiant Surgebinding - they are too similar, and operate on the same principles with little differences. Ashyn surges might be as similar to Radiant surges, as Fused surges are- they were developed on the same system, and more importantly, Odium was involved on Ashyn and with humans. There are Voidsprens in human form, they might have come from Ashyn. Specifics might differ, but it is likely they were close to each other to justify calling them the same surges.
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The problem with landing is that you still have the same momentum. Doubling your weight gives you greater mass, greater force on impact, and greater potential energy E=mgh. Without changing your mass, you have greater speed, and this means greater kinetic energy E=(mv^2)/2. Energy is conserved. and that means landing would be hard no matter what you do. So you just break your bones. How about just throwing a coin before landing and pushing it, like all coinshooters do?
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Yes, and few others, particularly this one
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The simplest explanation is the best - he didn't care. He had almost god-like powers from being Fullborn, he could deal with any army or uprising himself if needed. He had the army of koloss at his disposal. The only thing that mattered to him is that everyone is submissive to him. Moreover he was Terrisaman, jealous of what other countries had, and how they were superior to Terris. So he took that away out of spite, changed them to be biologically inferior, and only a few selected ones became the first great houses. He wanted to have full control, in his mind, the best way to achieve this is by creating a slave society. He wasn't a god, he was just a jealous shepherd that accidentally touched the power of god.
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They had a Bondsmith on Ashyn and use boosted surge of transportation to get out of there - from WoBs. It's very likely they had access to all 10 surges. I guess it depends if you consider Fused Surgebinding the same Surgebinding as Radiants use. They manipulate 9 surges without bond with spren. If they're not the same for you, Ashyn Surgebinding is also different system. But this is asking "how many magic systems does Roshar have?' all over again. Depending on your definition, there could be more than 30, or just 3.
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I'm in! Will we get a tinfoil hat or should I make one for myself?
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alder24 replied to KaladinWorldsinger's topic in Mistborn
So oil from plants or whatever they use. You won't power a city with your thing. -
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alder24 replied to KaladinWorldsinger's topic in Mistborn
That would work. But still you wouldn't get much power from it. It's just easier to burn coal for electricity, than this. -
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alder24 replied to Frustration's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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alder24 replied to KaladinWorldsinger's topic in Mistborn
I don't know, I try. When you make it human size, it generates a lot of friction. Iron ferring would have to tap much more atribute. like 5x his weight, to move it down to generate productive amount of energy. Then he decrease his weight and he puts less of it than he pulled from it. He would lose his attribute faster than he's gaining it. So he will run out of attribute. If he just makes himself 1.5x heavier for 1 min, to move it down, then 0.5x lighter to move it up for 1 min, so he doesn't lose attribute, then he would just move so slow that it would not provide anything useful. No usable power. -
Certain angle? It looks just like a rhino head with open mouth, from all angles!
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alder24 replied to KaladinWorldsinger's topic in Mistborn
That's slavery! and you still need to feed him, so he still requires some energy. To make it move effectively, without being slowed down by friction, he would need to take more weight than he puts it in. He will be losing more weight then he puts in. And it needs to be human size, lots of friction there. -
No, because Bands would have to get eaten and burned for it. So you would end up with no Bands.
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So Roshar might or might not have iron core. But it still has a lot of iron in its crust. Why no answer on interior? What first came to my mind is hollow Roshar.
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I would say that Surgebinding is all the same, it's manipulation of natural forces and phenomena, like gravity or light. In that definition they use the same magic system on Ashyn that is used on Roshar. But Surgebinding can be manifested by different gods/Shards, they are still working by the same principles as they still manipulate the same forces, but they using it differently. Like Windrunners and Heavenly Ones - they both can manipulete the same surge - Gravitation, but they power it with a different source (Odium vs Honor), which have a bit different effects when they use it. So if you look just at who is powering that surge, they use different magic system.
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I read it recently again, and didn't have any problems, but I read it many times. At my first reading, I had some problems with following these quick action sequences. What's important to understand that it behaves like real life physics. Steel pushing and Iron pulling follows conservation of momentum. If allomancer and the metal have the same mass, they both have the same speed, if allomancer is much heavier, inertia prevents him from moving, and metal flies away. With this, it was much easier for me to understand.
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I agree, he's very unlikely, but I said it would be to end the contest and make peace, but not out of hate. His emotions would only make him susceptible to manipulation, but he would do it in good faith, not out of anger. But that would be out of character, I agree.
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Rocky planets do have iron core, it's because of how and where in star's orbit they have been formed. Was Roshar as a whole made by Adonalsium, or just it's continent? Source on Roshar's core? You can, but Roshar is not a gas giant like Jupiter. Magnetic field is genereted due to flow of magnetic elements and rotation of the planet, so it needs to be liquid. This is great explanation.
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Temporary can be devastating. So in orbits, mass of a planet doesn't affect its orbital velocity, it's distance from the sun that matters. Changing mass of a planet, changes its inertia. And this makes it much easier to manipulate orbital speed, as you now require less energy to change speed. So Feruchemist could mess up planet's orbit, shortening it, and Fullborn can straight up launch it into space, as he can compound. Before planet returns to its old orbit it would burn a lot (if it does it),as it would take longer to return as mass is back to normal and inertia is greater. Of course, I can be very wrong, it's orbital mechanics. From Wax's experience, momentum works as it should work. I don't know if there is any filling speed, he can access weight of an bulding in split of the second Earth's core is solid. How pure it needs to be? I don't know if iron in Earth's core is bonded with carbon, there is a bit carbon there (~0.1%, which is like 90% if Earth's carbon), so Iron should be in it's purest form. There is some nickel there as well. But there is a lot of iron in crust as well. It's rocky planet, is not burned to ground by solar winds, have atmosphere, so yeah, it does have an iron core. Fullborn could rickrolled whole planet by storing memory in all of copper on the planet (if compounding copper works by copying memory). Yes, I know it probably doesn't work that way (unless Bondsmith specifically bonds him with whole planet), this is just fun idea I had, while being bored.
