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Mate, that's all and very well, but when you spent at least two cycles obsessively trying to prove my Dula-ness and then immediately accept a poison-claim at face value? Something's definitely either inconsistent, weird, or fishy. And I mean this in the sense of an inclusive-or. Clarification appreciated though: then Clanky, send your poison to someone who's been confirmed, simpliciter. (Preferably myself, Ren, Meta, or Wilson--someone who is likely to get onto the thread upon receipt and to confirm they have it, so you don't get shot by accident.) Person who received the poison, do confirm you have it, otherwise we'll be forced to assume Clanky is lying and take appropriate action.
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Alright, ignore the suggestion of Clanky poisoning someone. As Wyrm would say it, I'm a moron >> I think there's a better way to manage this poison-claim and soft-clear Clanky. Have Clanky give the poison to someone cleared during the Day. Gifting can happen during either Turn, so we don't have to wait, and we don't have to dither about who it ought to go to. For our purposes, I suggest myself, simply because I'm not sure if Gifting takes up an action slot (Hreo, confirmation please?) and we don't want to encumber Meta or co. with having to give back the poison at night, but I have no night actions. When items are Gifted, the identity of the giver cannot be concealed which further suits our purposes, because then we have GM confirmation that it was Clanky who had the poison. Once the transfer is complete at the end of this Turn and Clanky is soft-cleared, have whoever received the poison return it to Clanky, with our thanks for his putting up with our need to soft-confirm him. Situation resolved. Easy.
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Thank you for the information, Clanky, though I'm not as swift to clear you from my list as M'Hael seems to be. Depending on the results of a clarificatory PM I get from Hreo, I think I have a satisfactory resolution to the Clanky situation. For the moment, I'm going to put that vote onto Emerald, since I'd like to hear more coming from that quarter. Edit: Soddit. I do think asking Clanky to poison someone to soft-clear him is pretty worthwhile, unless people genuinely want to go for a LAFO, as it might save Meta on one scan. At this point, I might be inclined to suggest we ask him to poison one of our leading suspects. As I see it, this is our current pools, although technically, if we want to be rigorous about it, the only three I'd genuinely consider soft-confirmed are Wyrm and Seonid and Dow. Hard-confirmed: Kas, Twei, Mek, Meta, Wilson, Ren, Alv, Neo Soft-Confirmed: Wyrm, Seonid, Wonko/Sart, Dow Perhaps Soft-Confirmed: M'Hael ? : Clanky, Claincy, Araris, Ostrich, Kipper, Piff/Em Confirmed Evil: Luckat Personally, I'm less inclined to ask to waste a poison on anyone in the Perhaps/Soft-Confirmed pool. My current suggestion is that we ask Clanky to prove it by poisoning one of the generally-silent/mostly-inactive people in the ? pool. If they haven't been speaking up much, being silenced by being thrown in Elantris isn't going to be a major loss on our part. So, probably Ostrich. Edit 2: I should also add that it seems unlikely that there is another Cultist Pirate out there, given the sheer number of 'kill-with-me's floating aorund in this game, so that kind of nixes the whole point of hanging on to the poison since it's a delayed role-block, at best.
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I'm hoping this doesn't count as thread Awakening, but I just want to check: given the number of people who've talked about their language learning experiences or proficiencies--is it possible to find anyone who might be interested in practising a language with a 17S partner? I can't offer srs bsns Chinese, but I'd be interested if anyone wants to fail at practise their German together Don't ask me about Greek or Irish though. I'm pretty sure that the Greek economy will fix itself up before I actually speak Greek properly >>
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Definitely not the only one to have nightmares about my A levels then For a while back, I'd been having nightmares about being late for my A levels (usually either the lit or physics paper), misplacing my identification documents, and then being stopped outside the examination hall because I couldn't prove to them I existed and then realising I hadn't studied and didn't even know what was going to be examined. I mean, oh wait, I'm in university, this crem is long over (Recently, it's been dreams of my supervisor telling me my thesis is substandard and I have to repeat final year again, which, Madre di Dios, no. All the nopes.)
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You Know You're a Sanderfan When...
Kasimir replied to Shardbearer's topic in General Brandon Discussion
When you see all the awesome craftwork people've posted to this thread (also, Szeth table, anyone?) and start considering if you can stamp the symbol for nicrosil into the cover of your (paper) notebooks >> -
You've no idea how jealous I am :/ Since my console died, I've never been able to play AC again (PC doesn't quite have the specs, and I'm too used to the controller). And I never got to try Black Flag, which I was looking forward to! >>
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Ding ding ding! Give this gentlebeing a round of applause! Your turn!
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Nope.
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I like this interpretation, but that wasn't who I had in mind, sorry
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Thanks I am the road untaken, the path unchosen: bone-slayer, heart-judge, the shine of moonlight on still waters. The heart’s space is my battlefield; in my hands gleam the word-hoard, my weapons. I give wise counsel, withhold my own purposes. Name me: secret-keeper, deceiver, truth-giver. I know the hidden heart of things, the distant days unspoken, long fled with the summers. In stone, I mark the passage of the years, reweave them. In my hands, I held the beating heart of an empire and remade the lord of kings anew.
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No offense, mate, but my bro Wyrm can tell you what David Hume always says in response to that sort of thing. More pragmatically, until and unless we know how Elantris is going to work with us and how we can help each other, we're just going to be handling things on two separate fronts. Which, to put it bluntly, is fairly wrong-headed. As I see it, there's no need to reveal all of our cards, but keeping secrecy for the sake of secrecy is pretty pointless. This is what I'd like to know, if we can know it: How are we running this? Can y'all offer new Seeking capacities? Should we be working to churn up a list of people who ought to be likely Seeked tonight? What about any kill abilities? (And I ask this because removing inactives by the lynch is cumbersome, and we've cut them nine cycles of slack. By this point, if we have to go in among the inactives and to remove them, we have to do it.) Your thoughts and suspicions are, as always, welcome. But I want to know where we're all going to go from here as Team Arelon. If Luckat is a regular, then we almost certainly have 1-2 more Cultists to find. And I'd echo Wyrm's call for the Debtors to step forward. It's not particularly dangerous intel, and at this point, I'm confident the Cultists have many other targets. Many, many other targets. Knowing the role distributions can still help us find dark areas where we should be concentrating questions in.
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I'm going to keep my vote where it is for the time being. No point in stifling discussion, and Elantris, it'd be good to know how you plan for us to proceed from here on out. Since we've found the Odiv (ha! So my being hell-bent on going after Luckat had some purpose after all! ), it's safe to say that it ought to be an all-out search for the remaining 1-2 Cultists now. When Meta made it known that Luckat was a Cultist, I went back to look at posts about potential Odivs. Now granted, to some extent, worries about the Odiv would be on everyone's mind, as much as we talk about having to focus on the Cultists and letting the Odiv problem take care of itself. I noticed that Clanky wasn't too big on discussing the Cultists--in fact, really, he just swept the Jain issue off the table and began to focus on the Odiv. And that was pretty much the bulk of the little he said. Something about that nags at me. It especially nags at me since his Odiv suspects are myself, Twei and Wilson (in that order) and apparently, everyone else doesn't even merit being separated. His reasoning somewhat makes sense (in that we might be more likely to call for a suspected Cultist on the Odiv list to be scanned). At the same time, I'm a little interested in how readily he dismissed Luckat or other discussions of Luckat as an Odiv (namely, Twei's.) It could be nothing. After all, it's consistent with the reasoning he employed. Yet at the same time, it's also a useful way of trying to keep your fellow Cultist out of the Odiv firing line and therefore the public gaze/spotlight. But next to his readiness to jump on the Maili train but not the Winter train? Huh. Maybe worth some questions. So, I'm going to leave my vote where it is for now. Don't worry; I'll join the Luckat lynch in time It's only the first day of the cycle after all, guys! Sure, Elantris has joined the fight at last, but we've gotten this far. Let's see this through to the end together. P.S. On Elantris: "The Eagles are coming!" On Meta: so, I know the write-up shows Meta as doing this, but honestly? In my head, I always see Mene doing this badchull three-point landing and then just sauntering off like a boss
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Allrianne Cett?
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I'm less worried about you right now, I'm worried about Clanky. I'm worried about a Cultist suspect gaining access to 'sweet fireballs', thank you very much. And it'd also seem to me to be a great way to balance the fact that a whole bunch of villagers can suddenly. You, I can't decide. I never can, when it comes to you. Shu-Dereth Report: no new convert from last night. Either no Odiv or Odiv is lying low. Absence of evidence not evidence of absence and all that, even if things're actually more complicated than that nifty slogan would suggest. (See: IBE. Okay nevermind. Tired Kas rambles a lot.) Neo: My issue with that, quite apart from the fact that poison now works differently, is honestly, if they had poison, they'd surely use it before now. An active scanning Meta is a big threat and poison is more useful confining Meta to Elantris (and before this cycle, they sure had no idea that sending someone to Elantris wouldn't confine them any longer.) To be fair, they did try to kill Meta, hitting his Korathi pendant (presumably.) So we have an updated victimology: Night 1 - Orlok Night 2 - Phat Night 3 - Wilson Night 4 - Phat Night 5 - Seonid Night 6 - Seonid Night 7 - Twei Night 8 - Meta Seems to me that Night 4 onwards, they went purely on to threat (role) kills. Last, glad to see Elantris is restored, because this means Kii can put me full time in contact with my bro Wyrm Looks like I'm retrenched!
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Totally not inspired by the awesome trailer for Assassin's Creed: Syndicate. Nope. Not at all >> I know Scadrial is supposed to be the closest analogue for Earth, so theoretically, what they have, we have. But we also know that Scadrial in TAoL is probably just a little off from the Industrial Revolution. And yet we know that unionisation and mass mobilisation and class consciousness are existing: in fact, they coalesced as forces somewhat earlier than they did for us, considering what the broadsheets say about unions negotiating with the Nobles' Collective. It sure messed with me a little: so I've set this particular QF a little earlier, hopefully right at the point they coalesced on Scadrial. Syndicate Scadrial is transforming. Railways are being built to connect the civilised octants of Elendel with the far-flung cities and towns in the Roughs. In Elendel itself, foundries are springing up all over, employing unprecedented numbers of workers. Harmony willing, Elendel will see a new era of prosperity and technological advancement. But all of this comes at a cost. Hundreds of workers find themselves increasingly crammed into small dormitories meant to take less than half their numbers. Soot and smoke from the foundries lingers in the octants, like the legends of ash in the old days before the Final Ascension. Hours are long and the work is hard. Boxings are going into the pockets of nobles and factory owners...and scarcely any is trickling down to the workers. In Elendel’s Fifth Octant, a small group of foundry workers meeting at the local establishment finally decide to take matters into their own hands. Things must change. And this is the beginning of the end...
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You Know You're a Sanderfan When...
Kasimir replied to Shardbearer's topic in General Brandon Discussion
...When you procrastinate on your thesis by writing your independent research paper >> -
Mek was cleared on Night 4. Same Night Meta got checked into Hotel Elantris. Scan comes before effects of the Shaod/Poison on the Stack. Edit: To recap order: Meta: Night 1 - Winter Night 2 - Kas (presumably) Night 3 - Twei (presumably) Night 4 - Mek Night 5 - Bort Night 6 - Alv Night 7 - Jain Night 8 - ? Phat: Night 1 - Wilson Night 2 - Ren Night 3 - Neo
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Was only a matter of time before we got someone trigger-happy during the Night Given what M'Hael has said: Hreo, would it be possible to ask if Ostrich/Silver is due to be flushed anytime soon due to inactivity? And actually, my tentative less-suspected list mentioned on Day Eight included: Wonko/Sart, Wyrm/Aonar (Dula bro!), Dowanx, Seonid, and Jain--the latter I am now regretting immensely, but as you recall from our PM, I felt you had a point and expected a putative Gyorn to at least make an attempt to get someone else, yourself included, scanned. As I see it, I'd agree that Luckat is a decent candidate. Barely responding only upon being called out isn't helpful, and it'd be good to clear her off the Cultist and Odiv list, even if the latter isn't a big deal as of now. Otherwise, I'm generally more inclined to suggest the M'Hael, if only to clear up the issues we spoke of on Day Six, Meta. I can't decide where I stand on Kipper/Burnt. It's difficult to decide if it was a strictly OOG issue Kipper had, or if it had as well strategic in-game implications, because Bort attempted to use a slightly similar angle on the day he went down in the lynch. He was, in fact, a few steps away from doing so, but the writing was on the wall. Setting aside the legitimacy of the issue since that's an OOG concern, I'd be interested to know if Bort was an opportunist, or if it was the result of any behind-the-scenes strategising. With regard to Claincy, I don't know what to think. RL issues do not make one more or less likely to be an Eliminator, but they can sure help by making it hard for us to figure a player out. P.S. Also, M'Hael: about your sig--I'm not really sure what Phat's talking about, because I don't have a 'midnight' threat level for players, and even if I privately consider some players to be more dangerous than others, it is certainly my policy never to speak of it. Storms, I've never spoken to Phat within the game, so I'm not sure whose chull he pulled that out of. And yes, Phat, if you're reading this--pleased to remember what John Stuart Mill says. Edit: colour. Edit 2: A second reason occurred to me w.r.t. why I'd back a scan on Luckat. It's not a very strong one, but here goes. Well, either there are six Cultists, or one of them might have some form of protection, given the existence of the Gyorn, the Shaod, and goodness knows what Elantrian secrets. If that is a fair assumption, then let's look and track the original pendant-holders so far: 1. Ren - Gave his to Phat. He's been confirmed Team Arelon. 2. Orlok - Gave his to Wilson. Confirmed Team Arelon by the kill. 3. Meta - Still operative. Confirmed Team Arelon because safe role is safe role. 4. Luckat - Saved her from Jain's first attempt. ? I don't really like going by role assumptions, since GMs are epic trolls and like to break your expectations, but I do think it might add just a tiny bit to some of the reasons for possibly scanning.
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A Day and Night player pair are basically playing the same 'character'. It's kind of like a Janus system, with two heads. So, the Day and Night pair share alignment and role (no Tyler Durdens here, thank goodness!) It's just that the Day player doesn't get to use their role ability and the Night player doesn't get to vote. Since they're playing the same person, if one half of the pair gets killed, so does the other half. Kind of like the Lovers, really. Consider it co-op gaming at its most chaotic finest
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Try Brian McClellan's Powder Mage Trilogy, if you don't mind heading into the gunpowder age in your fantasy. Considering he's of the Brandon Sanderson school of magic systems, there's a bit of overlap there. And you should absolutely try Jim Butcher's Codex Alera series. Edit: And while Guy Gavriel Kay doesn't write like Sanderson--more like Tolkien--I'd always recommend his books. That man's a god.
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What can I say, Kas, I learn by osmosis >> Wasn't me talking about entropy yesterday, certainly Actually, I do have another general question for all three of you, and I'd like to ask it carefully. Could I ask what your respective policies on the idea of threat levels are? I get it that some players are often considered to be more dangerous than others; at the same time, I sometimes find myself worrying if people could wind up taking that the wrong way. If this is a bit more shop-talk than expected, please feel free to ignore it
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People have a tendency to do that. Then you realise it's your guts puddling at your feet, and wait, is that your eye he's juggling in his hands? Nonetheless, agreed. We want to track poison uses, because that's one on Meta, one on Bort. My supposition is that the Cultists don't actually have more poison, or they could use it again to try to confine Meta in Elantri and block the effectiveness of his scanning. Whatever we're looking for, one of the Cultists definitely began with poison. We know it can't be Bort or Zas since they was in Elantris when Meta went in, at the very least. So maybe Winter also started with poison, or we're looking for someone who could've started with poison as well.
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I don't know if you've missed it, but it's been mentioned a few times that Alv was scanned and cleared by Meta. He cannot therefore be a Cultist, and it had all along been a non-issue whether he would've been a Gyorn. Frankly, the Odiv doesn't matter at this point. If the conversions start, then we worry. Without that, we can go after the Cultists. And as I said, if Kipper and/or Luckat are suspects, then being able to determine if they're Cultists will also help us narrow down our Odiv pool to just 3. As I see it, the biggest threat at hand are the Cultists, so we are in agreement there.
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Just a bit >> Other than that, I'm upholding Aonar's imperative and trying to live up to the very weighty bounty Wilson has seen fit to place on my head I don't either, so let's just leave it at a simple analogy. You're using the methods/framework of analytic philosophy to attack a strongly continental philosopher Which is fine, but that's like telling a person who loves Star Trek and hates Star Wars about why the OT is better than the PT. If you apply a metaphysical framework that Heidegger doesn't even subscribe to, then there is going to be a problem from the start, because a Heideggerian would challenge why that framework even ought to be applied in this case [Remember, classic existentialists don't really want to talk about time without lived experience, and they're not big on the lived experience of the Other (comes later with people like Levinas), so appealing to your experiential perspective can't solve the problem here. The problem is magnified in the case of Heidegger because a existential phenomenologist appeals to first-person experience first and foremost! ] And at the bottom, squabbles over framework and methodology tend to be a bit useless in this pass, which is why we have the analytic and continental camps *cough* honourspren and Cryptics *cough*, and never shall the twain meet To take a step back from this, I would liked it if you could answer my question too though. I'm genuinely curious about which games were your favourite, and which ones you enjoyed the most (to employ Gamma's distinction there.) Also, Wilson? I mean that much to you? Really?
