Fifth of Daybreak

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You're the hero we need, but I don't know what we could have possibly have ever done to deserve you. <3

Sometimes I listen to lessen the pain while I weep knowing how long it will be until the next book... *cough* I mean it's great for when you're cooking, especially meals with long prep times.

This is just a personal interpretation, and likely a result of my personal bias, but I'm viewing the fused's statement as more a generalized "our side" then a specific "we including me." The fused get their powers from Odium, so including them in his own 'we' is almost self-referential. I'm also a little dubious on splinters as small as spren being able to even hurt a shard, let alone help kill it. Nightblood can't even kill a shard. Fused have shown no signs of manifesting Blades of their own, let alone on the scale of Nightblood. I'm chalking that up to boasting of your commander and side's victories. Mistborn spoilers: Odium ran because of the contest of Champions, not because he was afraid of a direct threat to his person at this point IMO.

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A search using the word "Honor" brings no hits in the Venli chapters except when Ulim mentions men 'stinking of Honor.' I can't find this quote, can you provide it? Why not?

I assume you are referring to this line? This is a topic of some contention, with multiple parties ascribing meaning to what Odium is saying here. The discussion on that is happening over here: For what it's worth, I don't think any other Shards were involved in Honor's death. Honor distinctly tells us it was Odium, so I don't see any reason to doubt that and think another shard was involved in his death. Welcome to the forums

None of those contradict the WoB I posted where Brandon literally, when asked if there are any splinters of Honor, says the only ones are the Stormfather and the Honorspren and that Honor made them intentionally. I don't understand how you can not believe something to be true when I have provided the source material to back it up and you have provided nothing that contradicts it. I'll post it again. It also concerns me that you posted only half of a WoB when the other half seems to contradict your point and support mine. Why did you choose to only include that portion of the question? So it's even mention earlier in the post that Devotion and Dominion we're shattered and not splintered, then, in a distinctly separate description, Brandon doesn't correct that distinction and then talks about Honor's intentional splinters and how they parallel Ruin and Preservation without diminishing the integrity of the shard. He then mentions how he was talking about the fracturing of the mind and killing of a Shard, which we know can happen without actually splintering a shards power. It is very alarming to me when I'm provided out of context quotes that don't say what I'm being led to believe they are saying in their full context. Especially when it comes to WoB, please refrain from significantly changing the nature of a quote by leaving large portions of it out your post when referencing it. I also don't buy that anyone else killed Honor with him. We get all of our information on Honor's death straight from the source. Honor doesn't say "they killed me," he says "Odium has killed me." If we assume that multiple shards we're involved in his death, we contradict the only source of information we have on Honor's death. Edit: Did some more digging. We have absolutely no reason to think Odium should have been surprised by Dalinar taking up Honor's splinters. He tells us that he saw it coming. It also should be obvious to him that it's possible to ascend because he didn't take the same precautions with Honor as he did with Devotion and Dominion.

I let my book play while I do a lot of things. On my commute to work, while I clean the house, playing Hearthstone, falling asleep at night.

The direct quote is "Dalinar was not supposed to Ascend." His reasoning behind saying that is because of how flawed Dalinar is because of his work with the Thrill, and especially Evi's death. That's the lever he uses to pull at Dalinar. I'm especially enamored with what Paragrin had to say on it. There's no reason Odium should be shocked by Dalinar picking up a Shard. He doesn't say Dalinar shouldn't be able to Ascend, and he only killed Tanavast, he didn't splinter him. We know that the only splinters of Honor were created intentionally. This means it's not at all comparable to what he did to Aona and Skai, and he should not be that surprised at someone Ascending, having done so himself. "Honor" can't be killed if you're seperating this from killing Tanavast. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can be splintered, but Odium did not do that. He was obviously aware of the possibility and prepared for it extensively, trying instead to subvert Dalinar to his side during what would have been Dalinar's moment of Ascension. The lever he chose to make that attack was Evi's death. The whole scene is about how Dalinar's life was Odium and Dalinar hand in hand, and especially when it comes to Evi's death. Spoiler tag for length, my bolding and commentary in parentheticals added. Odium still addresses Dalinar as Dailnar. If he was referring to him as anything else,I might be more convinced. Especially if it was something along the lines of "Unity was not supposed to Ascend." The most cogent explanation that uses on-screen evidence for this is Evi.

Brandon has specified sausage as well, implying it's not just plant-based products. So I don't think Lift's abilities are related. I think it's less the water from storms than stormlight itself, which we know encourages plant growth from the Listeners. I don't feel particularly knowledgeable enough to comment on whether or not that's the likeliest method of action it would take to do so, but it certainly sounds really good to me!

There are some hints. He talks specifically of "his father's crimes" which is a weird way of referencing that time your mother was killed by your father unless you're trying to be part of a group obsessed with crime. And then Lin knows Helaran joined a group, even if he doesn't specify. He originally thinks it's Pattern, then recognizes the Blade to be different and assumes his new friends are powerful enough to supply him with shards. Nalan also would be one of the few people I don't have any qualms about just having an unknown shardblade lying around. If anyone was going to know where shards that went unclaimed were, it's the leader of the order that never broke faith.

I'm not so sure about this part. Brandon has said there are hints as to what his Aviar's ability is, and while I haven't done too much looking into this yet, there are two separate instances where he has information on the unmade: Re-Shephir in Urithuru and Sja-Anat wanting to turn. I'm leaning towards the Aviar's ability being connected to his ability to gather information about the unmade.

Personally I think she found out about an assassination attempt on Gavilar and intervened... enthusiastically. It has the most on-screen evidence to support it. (Welcome to the forums )

This is the key point that @Leyrann and I are trying to get @Fulminato to acknowledge. @Lightning's OP specified "at the end" and Fulminato is quoting lines from the beginning and refusing to acknowledge the existence of Yelig-Nar.

Cosplayers, (or anyone else who is interested) I've uploaded all the photos onto my Dropbox. They're basically all variations on the same with a few gifs my phone made out of the photo bursts, but you can have your pick of the lot this way. (I didn't curate this at all, I just uploaded them all and went with it, so I apologize for any terrible photos that guy took of us on there.) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kkkydgm90r17z3e/AABav-Gv4eLXmwXx_5UuEMhla?dl=0

We don't have too much solid information. Brandon hasn't outright said it in WoB, and there's not a whole lot on-screen either. Jasnah seems to think they'll target Radiants as they approach their final ideals. Mraize, however, indicates that Jasnah was only targeted after she attacked them. They are obviously trying to gain power from the desolations in some way by the fact they want to recruit or capture Sja-Anat. I think it's significant they seem to be completely opposed to the son's of honor. (Gavilar assumes Thaidakar had him assassinated and Iyatil targets Amaram.) Most curious to me however, was this WoB: So the Kelsier who wanted to kill the Lord Ruler would join, and most likely end up leading the Ghostbloods. I don't know what to infer from this, but it is significant.

I think Brandon might be underestimating the speed at which sugar can enter the blood stream as well honestly. His earlier statements about "metabolizing into sugar" shows that he has the basic concepts down but that he might not have done the in depth research, so I personally aren't reading much into that other then he assumes that there's a problem that might not actually be there and is doing pre-emptive handwaving. If Lift were to get the Rosharan equivalent of a pixie stick and keep it under her tongue, she'd be awesome in spades.

Same question, if the thrill is the black spren and the red spren, what would the other two be described as?

That's a good paraphrase. I just have one clarification I'd like to make. Can you clarify in what context you're assuming her metabolism is accelerated? Faster than average for humans but not superhuman, or it's accelerated beyond human capacity? My sister was a type 1 diabetic since before I can remember, and my girlfriend is as well, plus I'm a paramedic, so I have a lot of experience working with diabetics. Glucose can enter the bloodstream a lot faster than people tend to assume. With sugar under the tongue, sublingual administration, it can be almost instantaneous, whereas Lift's portrayal in WoR of a few minutes after eating isn't very far from accurate as far as my personal experiences with diabetics eating simple sugars/starches. With the unknown variable of how much Stormlight there is per calorie, especially given the safe assumption that the ratio's efficacy only improves as she progresses through the ideals, I don't think we need to make assumptions about the speed of her metabolism.

I know Brandon sometimes chooses bets readers who are experts to double check this kind of thing. Since this isn't a hard plot point or on screen, we can assume soft concepts that might not be fully researched or explained correctly. In essence, an unreliable narrator. The way I'm imagining it, Lift has a second the of insulin that metabolizes into investiture. Investulin, if you will.

It's separate, most likely Yelig-Nar

I hadn't considered this as him achieving the fifth ideal but that makes the most sense. It might be worth asking Brandon about sometime. Do we know if Bondsmiths would be restricted from getting plate? The conversation with the Stormfather leans towards no but is slightly ambiguous. If he can get plate, it might be evidence against this, since it didn't manifest in that scene. There is evidence against this though, or perhaps evidence that it's a combination of the two: Capital 'a' ascend implies he took up a shard in some way.