The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: I'm not sure why. But I trust this. Your feeling is wrong, but I remember my first game. It wasn't too much different. I just was significantly more timid I don't think your insistence is a bad thing. Confidence is good. Just make sure to keep it in control. Reexamine things, especially after whatever Elk's flip is. My gut says you're village and that this is 100% honest. My gut also has had a 100% fail rate this game so far. But I don't think that's continuing here. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Back to your regularly scheduled rollover Thanks for your vote of confidence.
Illwei Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Yall 100% thought that Matrim was gonna switch in that posts I was having flashbacks to the feeling of QF46 even though It's not lylo... or is it
Experience he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Author Posted October 8, 2020 Another day, another night A succesful day, finally, Has brought the death of the traitor, The traitors though, forgot to bring their death in the night, And the night went by, and another day, And nobody did die. Elkanah was Lynched! They were a Traitorous Trapper with a Messenger Aviar! Vote Count: Elkanah (5): Matrim, Illwei, CadCom, Straw, Ash Matrim (4): Turtle, Windrunner, Elkanah, Gears The turn will end in just under 48 hours on Friday, October 9th, at 9:00 PM PST Player List: Spoiler 1) Lord Silberfarben: @Lord_Silberfarben: Trapper. 2) First of the Bone: @Ashbringer 3) @Elkanah: Traitorous Trapper with a Messenger Aviar. 4) 2nd of the Twilight: @Kings_way 5) Pi of the Book: @Shard of Reading: Trapper. 6) Fourth of the Dark: @Gears 7) Philico: @Matrim's Dice 8) Second of the Dawn: @Ghanderflaffle: Trapper with Spy Aviar. 9) Third of the Midnight: @Vapor: Trapper with Hidden Aviar. 10) Ninth of the Sky: @JesterLavorre: Trapper with Hidden Aviar. 11) 295864685th of the midnight: @The Windrunner Supreme 12) First of the Clouds: @turtle 13) First of the Light: @Straw 14) Mint: @Frozen Mint 15) First of the Person: @CadCom 16) Twisp Winthrop: @Illwei 2
Mat he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) HA (not insensitively ) Now I will go to bed Why no kill though.... Edited October 8, 2020 by Matrim's Dice
Illwei Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Haha! can't stop me and my four votes! Gears Anyone want to admit to having PMs with Elk? 13 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Why no kill though.... Perhaps it is as you say and the other Elims are Mint and Kings_way? Edited October 8, 2020 by Illwei of course elk had a messenger Aviar
Straw he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Let’s go! Will try to find time to analyze tomorrow, it’s past midnight right now. Also, I would strongly suggest that the Healer claim if we go for them or the person they saved. TBH they might just want to claim outright. I didn’t have any PMs from Elk.
Turtle they/them Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Wait, did the slims not submit a kill? Or was Elk the one doing the kills? Would that even matter? I just read through the thread and yes, Kings_way and Mint could be Elim, though that would be rather boring. Anyways, school and waking up early for sports have really made me tired and I don't have much time for this but I'm going to say stuff again. Also, @Illwei I pronounce your name Ill- way. With the I sound being somewhat between eel and ill. This definitely makes Matrim less suspicious in my eyes, though he still could be elim. And uhh... Illwei can you explain your vote on gears a little? I really want to think about this, and I sort of also think Gears could be eliminated. (Unless that was a poke vote.) Oh and no I don't have any PM's with Elk. Edited October 9, 2020 by eltruT
Mat he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Illwei said: Anyone want to admit to having PMs with Elk? I do not. Which I think makes sesnse, as I definitely would have mentioned it yesterday if I did... 10 hours ago, Illwei said: Perhaps it is as you say and the other Elims are Mint and Kings_way? But... couldn't Elk have just submitted the kill? I'm gonna do a reads list now, using Elk's list he posted a few minutes before he was lynched. I'll keep in mind it was written when he knew he was dead. Spoilered because it's big. Spoiler Quote Ashbringer - Suspicious for vote patterns slight elim Ashbringer- IKYK's! Yay! I think Ash is probably village though. Quote Kingsway - Posted one time and voted for Windrunner. Kings_way, we could use your help figuring this out. Null Kings_way- Possible inactive elim, supported by a Windrunner vote. Quote Gears - is on my side for the moment which I appreciate. Has switched back and forth a bit, but I find his vote on Matrim consistent. slight village Gears- This is where IKYKs come in again. Did Elk give a teammate slight village to confuse us or make us think that they must be an elim? Or did he rate a villager slight village because he anticipated that we would think that? @Gears, how do you view me as of right now, and what's your opinion on the accusations on you? Quote Matrim - Has been eradic with votes and accusations. Has jumped on most available bandwagons. slight elim Well I'm village, so this tells me he wasn't afraid of marking people incorrectly on purpose. Quote Windrunner - I appreciate their help. The surety that Matrim was bad was weird... although, maybe they saw something. Sorry if I'm outing you, but it may be mondo important right now if you are some kind of seer that knows Matrim is bad. That makes more sense than any of my other theories. very slight village hoping you're a seer Windrunner- I'm thinking that this was made to make us think Windrunner is his teammate. Well, I don't buy it. So there. Quote Turtle - Is also voting for Matrim, but hasn't said much. Please come out of your shell? I super believe in you. You can help us solve this game. Null Turtle- I'd be fine lynching turtle. This seems like the kind of thing elim!Elk would say about a teammate, and I don't like her vote on me. Quote Straw - alignment is pretty dependent on Matrim's flip. If Matrim is an elim, then Straw probably is too. If not, I think we need to keep him around. Heaven help us if he's an elim. very slight village Straw- I agree with everything here, but because I know my alignment it eliminates most of the worry. If Straw is an elim, we're all doomed. Quote Mint - Hasn't been here either. Frozen Mint, please. we need your help. You're officially obi wan. Null Mint- Well, they're inactive. Technically a possible inactive elim. Quote CadCom - Is voting for me for fair reasons, but we could lose over this mislynch. probably village CadCom- I agree with the first part, and the part in purple. Same as Straw. If he's an elim, we're doomed. Quote Illwei - About the same as Straw. I really appreciate how helpful Illwei is being, but you're wrong. probably village Illwei- Same as CadCom and Straw. If he's an elim, we're doomed. So I'd be fine with a turtle or possibly Gears lynch among the actives, and if we're contribution crusading that works too. Edited October 8, 2020 by Matrim's Dice
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 I think that elim are probably turtle or gears. Sorry for going for you a ton matrim, but I think you may be village.
Gears Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 It seems I was wrong about Elkanah. What a shame. Note that the kill occurs first in the night, so Elkanah's lynch does not preclude them slaughtering people. This indicates that the traitors simply did not submit an action. Alternatively, someone with a Hidden could have been attacked by the nightmaw. @Experience, will there be evidence of a survived nightmaw attack? [I'm asking if it would be put in the write-up, but I don't know how to phrase that properly given that my character wouldn't know about any "write-up"] If the traitors simply forgot to kill, perhaps we should viciously and violently attack those who sleep day and night. 9 hours ago, Illwei said: Gears While I do understand this attack on my person, I would still prefer some elaboration from Winthrop. There were 2 lynch options, Philico and Elkanah. Elk claimed occupation with important tasks, and I was willing to let that slide. I had been suspicious of Philico for many days now, though I will relinquish that for the moment (though my paranoia whispers to me that this could be an elaborate attempt gain trust on Philico's part). I must re-evaluate my suspicion of Light as well. The following is an analysis of Elkanah's statements. Spoiler 1. Thinks 4 traitors. (Since Elk is a traitor, this statement is suspect. Would there be any advantage to the village thinking there are more traitors then there are?). Lynch anyone who shows as traitor (Probably wanted some credit for supporting a good idea) Establishes the fact that they are busy. 2. Very busy, will probably only have time to speak once a day. Suspected Philico (Makes me think Philico is probably a trapper) the most, with Ninth of the Sky and First of the Bone trailing behind (While this tempts me to think better of Bone, I wouldn't be surprised of Elkanah hid an ally among their suspicions). 3. Very busy. Backs off of Philico (Why not press the advantage on an easy mislynch? My paranoia is poisoning my logic via spider venom hidden inside baked confectionery.) 4. Should vote for Light, would have been more effort to save him if he was a traitor (If Light trapper, would welcome mislynch, Light = traitor?) Follows Winthrop's vote on Bone (That was a target that wouldn't go anywhere, easily retractable. I want to think well of Bone, but Elkanah's actions could be construed either way.) 5. Asks for a stay of execution (I think that they might have been genuinely busy, since their previous statements reinforce this.) Votes Philico for survival and suspicion (Philico is probably not a traitor, though my paranoia insists in hand-feeding my logic treats filled with conspiracy theories and distractions about how since Philico and Elkanah were the two lynch candidates and the Messenger is practically useless for a traitor anyways and Philico doesn't have an Aviar that they wanted credit for voting on the other person when they got lynched) 6. Apologizes for rudeness. 7. Banter 8. Always lurking, listening in. Will be finished with work tomorrow. 9. When flips trapper, look into Philico, Light, Bone, Midnight. Thinks Illwei is trapper (Noted, but could be any alignment) 10: Will return with analysis 11. Reads. Considers myself, Light, Person, Winthrop, and Midnight to be slight village, though the read on Midnight appears to be for their prophetic powers. Reads Philico and Bone as elim. (I really need to get rid of this Paranoia spider infestation. The possibility remains that Elk and Philico are both elims. Also, Bone could be elim.) Thinks Light's alignment same as Philico's. (Way to get Light in good graces once Philico gets mislynched since Elkanah knows Philico is trapper?) 12. Offers us good fortune. 13. Banter 14. Winthrop Appreciation Day 15. Pronunciation? 16. If Midnight = spy, should claim. Speaking of, @The Windrunner Supreme, do you have a Spy? Is that the cause of your certainty? 17: Banter 18: Proposes a switch to Winthrop for no reason. (Paranoia, stop assassinating Logic. It just reforms out of the swirling chaos that is my mind, and that always gives me a headache.) Conclusion: Philico and Light are probably not the same alignment. I do think Philico is a trapper now, however, something confuses me. Scenario: Philico is a trapper, Light is a traitor. Try to get mislynch on Philico to "prove" Light's innocence. If so, why didn't take advantage of strangest hammer ever? Winthrop and Bone could be anything because my idiotic PARANOIA won't stop trying to kill the last remnants of my rationality. I thought you became friends! What happened? Poison is so uncouth anyways. Just do weapons at dawn and be done with it! 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: Gears- This is where IKYKs come in again. Did Elk give a teammate slight village to confuse us or make us think that they must be an elim? Or did he rate a villager slight village because he anticipated that we would think that? @Gears, how do you view me as of right now, and what's your opinion on the accusations on you? Alas, Philico has managed to speak before me. I think the accusations against me are entirely justified, though I do think that I have been entirely consistent over the course of this meeting. I view Philico as a trapper, with a tentative paranoid thought towards alternate scenarios.
Mat he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, Gears said: Alas, Philico has managed to speak before me. I think the accusations against me are entirely justified, though I do think that I have been entirely consistent over the course of this meeting. I view Philico as a trapper, with a tentative paranoid thought towards alternate scenarios. Fair, along with the rest of your post. Turtle @eltruT
Illwei Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Okay, If I'm honest, then the major thing I have against gears is his sudden switch to RPing everything. It honestly seems to me like a way for him to hide what he might do differently because he's an Elim. For now, Gears And Windrunner So one thing that confuses me is Matrim saying they believe Windrunner is Village, after Windrunner uses the reasoning about voting on Matrim because Matrim is a cow? or isn't a cow? Straw was the first one to vote on Windrunner? last cycle? right? so either he or Windrunner is an Elim.
Straw he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Illwei said: Okay, If I'm honest, then the major thing I have against gears is his sudden switch to RPing everything. It honestly seems to me like a way for him to hide what he might do differently because he's an Elim. For now, Gears And Windrunner So one thing that confuses me is Matrim saying they believe Windrunner is Village, after Windrunner uses the reasoning about voting on Matrim because Matrim is a cow? or isn't a cow? Straw was the first one to vote on Windrunner? last cycle? right? so either he or Windrunner is an Elim. Gears said he'd be RPing everything in his signup post, so it's NAI. Why would one of us be an elim?
Illwei Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Straw said: Why would one of us be an elim? If I assume that one of the Elims wanted to try and split the vote onto Windrunner, you hadn't voted Elk during the cycle and then you voted Windrunner right after Ash said he would support a Windrunner vote, and after Matrim had also expressed suspiciion of Windrunner. So I'm assuming that Either Windrunner is an Elim, and he was possibly trying to split the vote, because of what his teammates said, or you trying to split the vote because windrunner was acting suspicious enough for it. I'm more inclined to believe that it's Windrunner, just because no one tried to save you on D2.
Mat he/him Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Illwei said: And Windrunner So one thing that confuses me is Matrim saying they believe Windrunner is Village, after Windrunner uses the reasoning about voting on Matrim because Matrim is a cow? or isn't a cow? Straw was the first one to vote on Windrunner? last cycle? right? so either he or Windrunner is an Elim. The cow thing isn't why I think he's village, it was the post where he said he wasn't the spy, and is village, and new, and thinks I was an elim. That felt super genuine to me. Also Elk reading Windrunner as village when Elk knew he was dead makes me think that was a setup to get us to mislynch Windrunner. I do still think both Straw and Windrunner are village though. Edited October 8, 2020 by Matrim's Dice
Illwei Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: Also Elk reading Windrunner as village when Elk knew he was dead makes me think that was a setup to get us to mislynch Windrunner. I'm choosing to completely ignore Elks reads atm. He could have RNG'd it for all we know. He didn't express anything different in those, and also at that time he was still hoping to get out of it somehow
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: The cow thing isn't why I think he's village, it was the post where he said he wasn't the spy, and is village, and new, and thinks I was an elim. That felt super genuine to me. Also Elk reading Windrunner as village when Elk knew he was dead makes me think that was a setup to get us to mislynch Windrunner. I do still think both Straw and Windrunner are village though. Thank you. 8 hours ago, Illwei said: Okay, If I'm honest, then the major thing I have against gears is his sudden switch to RPing everything. It honestly seems to me like a way for him to hide what he might do differently because he's an Elim. For now, Gears And Windrunner So one thing that confuses me is Matrim saying they believe Windrunner is Village, after Windrunner uses the reasoning about voting on Matrim because Matrim is a cow? or isn't a cow? Straw was the first one to vote on Windrunner? last cycle? right? so either he or Windrunner is an Elim. I was just joking around with the cow thing. I think that straw may be elim 10 hours ago, Gears said: Speaking of, @The Windrunner Supreme, do you have a Spy? Is that the cause of your certainty? No, sadly I have no Aviar or powers, but I think it was just something that Matrim said earlier on that made me suspicious of him. I'll try to go back and find what it was if you want
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: I think that straw may be elim Hey @Matrim's Dice Opinion?
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: Hey @Matrim's Dice Opinion? Disagree
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Disagree Anything else? @The Windrunner Supreme what reasons make you think straw is an elim? Edited October 9, 2020 by Illwei
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Illwei said: Anything else? @The Windrunner Supreme what reasons make you think straw is an elim? I’ve already said why, I believe.
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: I’ve already said why, I believe. Whoa matrim i think you got hacked by windrunner That question, just as it looks, is intended for windrunner. Ill have to look back at things once im on my computer, but i think its strange that windrunner never really expressed suspicion of straw until i said either straw or him is an elim. At that, all of a sudden hes saying he agrees?
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Illwei said: 12 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Whoa matrim i think you got hacked by windrunner You said ‘Anything else?’...
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: You said ‘Anything else?’... 13 minutes ago, Illwei said: Whoa matrim i think you got hacked by windrunner I am confuzzled
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