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Actually, the kid. He is a clean freak. Anyways. I'm pretty sure at this point that the easiest place to find an elim is in RBM/Drake. With Coffee dying, it looks like it would either be drake or someone trying to frame Drake at least to me. Which isn't helpful. My gut is saying that the drake alliance is likely the guilty party. And that could be Drake, TUO. I'm probably going to hold off voting for now, but I'm likely to be slower on the weekend, so I may also try to get a vote in before that occurs.

Ok. So a quick look at Lylo. We're at 6 players. Which means we'd be at lylo whether the elims lynched a lieutenant doc member or not. By tomorrow's day cycle, we'd be at 2-2 or worse no matter what. So that means the kill on coffeecat was for other reasons. (Next in line? too much info? Ruined plans?) Let's look at everyone: @Ashbringer: Confirmed village @DrakeMarshall: Claims RBM lied @xinoehp512: No strong reads @RoyalBeeMage: Claims Drake Elim @The Unknown Order: If drake evil, probably team mate @CadCom: Good Guy. I'll actually claim now. I'm station captain. That's the real reason I didn't vote last cycle. That and, I was on before rollover, as I usually am, and saw it was tied, so I didn't touch it to push it out one cycle further, plus give me double vote power this cycle. I'll do more analysis in a bit. My 2 year old "Wants a clean shirt"

That was my guess from looking at several of Drakes posts D1 and N1. It seems the elims don't want anyone to win except them. Because killing someone other than coffeecat would have been better for them to win quicker and easier. I think at some point today I'll claim my role, but I want to see a few interactions first.

No worries. Thanks for asking. Was looking to restart this thread anyways. So it helped

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I'll talk to you. Do you stand by your claim that you're a v!research officer?

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@Ashbringer @The Unknown Order you two have been unusually quiet today. Thoughts on the game?

TLDR at bottom if interested: D1 Aet(Village) gets things going, voting on TUO Xino responds on RBM Coffee puts another vote on TUO Ash responds with RBM Drake introduces a new candidate with about 12 hours left, in Aet. They make sure to explain why not TUO or RBM, and why Aet Aeoryi(Village) goes with Aet (Questions an Ash/Xino pairing) Aet switches to Ash, ash defends themselves, Aet removes vote Xino switches to Coffeecat I thought it seemed odd so I voted Xino, I also wanted vote shenanigans to show up to see if we could make any alignment choices. -Didn't vote D1: Aet(dead), RBM, TUO N1 Aet voted out. I realized only the Captain has real vote shenanigans-and those have to be built up by not voting. Drake villages TUO,RBM Coffee nightvotes Xino(Pocketing me?) Drake gives suspicions list Discussion on why did drake clear TUO (Does E!TUO self pres a lot? - Meta question. I don't take meta notes so does anyone else know?) D2: (ThReE wHoLe PaGeS. YaY) Drake does another analysis post. V! reads himself, TUO, RBM. E! reads Coffee, xino, CadCom(me) Me and Xino least trustworthy to Drake. Votes Xino I analyze worst case scenarios. Realizing a mislynch could result in parity with certain distros. I argue outing the Lieut Drake disagrees, incase elims aren't in the Lieut doc, might target one of them. xino votes coffee again Me, coffee go no exe. Coffee asks if captain votes no exe if it counts as a vote(Mechanic question) RBM votes Drake, claims Research scan by someone else IM questions, determined valid. TUO questions reaction test. Drake claims RBM is lying, bc Drake claims Steward (Poison) that RBM so RBM did self scan Votes RBM Ash follows Drake Drake worries about not ending game fast enough with no exe vote, and not getting enough info to make it worth it. Discussion ensues Regarding RBM/Drake claims In drakes discussion, they bring up LyLo again, mentioning thatI may have missed that. (I'm the one who originally brought it up) Argues that elims wouldn't lay low in this specific lylo situation. Bee asks what lylo is, Drake refuses to derpclear and TUO goes all the way against RBM because of this. I voice my disagreeance with RBM. Coffee votes Drake, Claims Lieut doc w/ him and points out that the people in that doc have all really been laying low, exept for a couple mentions by Xino/Tuo. Determins it's a better lynch to lynch someon in the doc, regardless of alignment (guarantee to avoid lylo.) Are people overreacting or under reacting?(I'm just confused reacting. I don't 100% believe either of you) I think Drake not sharing the lieutenant was the v!drake right call, looking back at it. If Coffee's claim had happened earlier in the cycle, I might disagree. but since it was late, I'm going to stick with it. Drake questions coffee's decision E! reads coffee. Coffee defends Xino votes Drake -Didn't vote (me) (Sorry) Reads: @Coffeecat: In Lieut Doc. Counter-train successfully stopped RBM from dying. Likely not Lieut. If RBM evil, Coffee likely Evil too. However for the time being soft village read. @Ashbringer: Been very quiet. They've commented, but flown mostly under the radar. @DrakeMarshall: Likely not Lieut. Possibly Steward. Anti-claimed RBMs claim. Could be right. If elims saw that they were a single mislynch from Lylo, then they could have tried to go hard on a last ditch effort. On the other hand, E! Drake would also know this, and could be just trying to stop an exe on him to get through Lylo. Either hard village or hard Elim read. Not sure which yet. @xinoehp512. Had targeted Coffee in votes twice, before switching to Drake on the second one. RP is hard for alignment reading. But it appears as if they had committed to RP even in the sign-up phase, so not much to go off of there. Prevented an RBM lynch, possibly exending the game to one more lylo, possibly ending the game earlier, soft village read for now. Could be 4B if that's in play (I'm leaning to it not being in play though) @RoyalBeeMage: Pretty much opposite of Drake. Either RBM or Drake is likely evil unless the elim placed a very alignment manip action. @The Unknown Order: Has been mostly quiet. I guess maybe village vibes? Not really sure. @CadCom: Good Guy. Apparently one of the more active people. Keep him alive. (In reality, I expect to die tonight. I've run several scenarios, and in each of them, I have at least a 1 in 3 chance of dying based off random chance, and if you factor what I imagine the elim team would do, it's much higher.) So please look back at this post if I die. It might prove useful. ----- At the time I wrote that, my answer would have been no, but now It's definitely a possibility looking back at everything. This, and Drake being evil. hm. I feel like it should have been clear from our discussions that it was end of night cycle. Not gonna hold this against you on it's own, but with more evidence, I might. ----- A few other things worth noting, If RBM isn't lying, then they had an unlucky scan, but not entirely impossible. Only Drake and an elim needed to target them. Drake knows who is in the Lieut doc, and wouldn't have targeted the claimed Lieut, since they don't have an action. with 8 people left at the time, removing drake and Lieut that's 1 in 6 chance of targeting RBM. If they chose to not target other member of Lieut doc, then 1 in 5. An elim wouldn't have targeted their other elim (I expect 2) or the person they knew they were killing. so that's 1 in 5. I know there's more than just random chance happening here but given just random chance, it's still a 1 in 30 chance of happening or greater. If Drake isn't lying AND the above situation didn't occur, then RBM is likely evil, but didn't submit the kill (I think), which was only 50/50, so still better odds than the the situation if Would have poisoned, and killed self, right? This means that the other elim submitted the Kill. Did RBM do an action? If so, what was their action? Sanitation officer just would have obscured their own alignment. (If they used their action- they only have one use, so maybe not) If they are infiltrator, then they just changed their own alignment scan to reflect whatever their intent was) They could also be one of many neutral roles, but then the possibilities are much higher. Alright. I'm starting to go down rabbit holes, so I'm gonna stop for a bit

I would like to know what you misjudged? You no longer stand by your assertion that Drake might be an elim in the Lieutenant doc? Or did you think a tie would execute both? (In which case, I'm hard reading you as elim) Or did you think the lieutenant won at the end of the day cycle? I do appreciate you keeping the other member of the doc safe. Though I'm running into a few issues, as I believe the last remaining person would be the lieutenant. (And that could be me, ash, TUO or Xino) If Drake is Evil then one of those 4 is also evil from my best guess. If Drake isn't evil then 2 of those 4 are evil. I'm gonna do a full re-reading analysis now. Someone else say something while I do so, so my posts don't get merged please.