Quick Fix Game 71: 5D Shard Game With Multiverse Time Travel*

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

probably an edit tbh

In all seriousness @Kasimir and @Archer and also @TheRavenHasLanded I'm fairly certain you already know that I have been playing forum mafia elsewhere and have played a lot of games between now and LG99. I'm sure you know I've improved, and I'm sure I'm not the player I once was. I don't self vote or use emotional appeal to try and convince people anymore, and I don't give off the same vibes or wavelengths that I did before. But that's unrelated to this game. That has nothing to do with this game, and I'm not trying to bring other games that have thousands of posts into this thread for this casual game.

In my past few games on the shard, I have been killed consistently on day 1- even in LG99, where I was right about 2/3 of the elim team. Even in QF70, although that was a bit of a different case. I don't think anyone wants to play a game only to get "policied" on day 1 or 2.

I have been playing much more passively this game than I would've liked, yes, but that is partially for my own enjoyment. 

I know your case will have positive reception from everyone- in fact, everything tends to be that way. However, I am hoping that what you will deliver will be actual game-related facts, and not references to past games, even to LG99. In LG99 you used a joke scumtell to make a read on me, and you were wrong and I was very frustrated. I hope you are not making that mistake again, but I can't trust that you won't.

I'll like you to think about the fact I just woke up and the time gap between my posts and stop @ing me while I'm trying to catch up with the thread because the last I logged off, no one was voting you so why are you once again overreacting to whatever is going on?

[Aeoryi she/her]

Just now, Kasimir said:

I'll like you to think about the fact I just woke up and the time gap between my posts and stop @ing me while I'm trying to catch up with the thread because the last I logged off, no one was voting you so why are you once again overreacting to whatever is going on?

No I just got ninja'd really really badly -.-

I find it funny but also annoying since I just wrote out a post that will probably ruin people's days for ages 

[Ookla de los Cuervos he/him]

4 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

probably an edit tbh

In all seriousness @Kasimir and @Archer and also @TheRavenHasLanded I'm fairly certain you already know that I have been playing forum mafia elsewhere and have played a lot of games between now and LG99. I'm sure you know I've improved, and I'm sure I'm not the player I once was. I don't self vote or use emotional appeal to try and convince people anymore, and I don't give off the same vibes or wavelengths that I did before. But that's unrelated to this game. That has nothing to do with this game, and I'm not trying to bring other games that have thousands of posts into this thread for this casual game.

In my past few games on the shard, I have been killed consistently on day 1- even in LG99, where I was right about 2/3 of the elim team. Even in QF70, although that was a bit of a different case. I don't think anyone wants to play a game only to get "policied" on day 1 or 2.

I have been playing much more passively this game than I would've liked, yes, but that is partially for my own enjoyment. 

I know your case will have positive reception from everyone- in fact, everything tends to be that way. However, I am hoping that what you will deliver will be actual game-related facts, and not references to past games, even to LG99. In LG99 you used a joke scumtell to make a read on me, and you were wrong and I was very frustrated. I hope you are not making that mistake again, but I can't trust that you won't.

EDIT:

wow okay that was a pretty fatal ninja lolll

disregard this post for the most part, please

Now you tell me ;-;

*had completely forgotten* YEP I KNEW THAT

[Archer he/him]

really I just want to give Kidpen a good viewing experience by causing unnecessary drama, so I'm okay with this 

Weaver 

 

[Aeternum]

14 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Wtaf did I wake up to

Salmon?

[Aeoryi she/her]

weaver

mainly because I saw them lurking down below

[Kasimir he/him]

5 hours ago, Archer said:

Why NK kidpen over say Kas? I don't understand why you'd be in a situation where kidpen is your emergency option, unless as a group you had ruled out Kas and I already. Anyone remember what TUA's disposition towards killing Kas is usually? 

TUA went for me C2 or C3 (can't remember exact cycle) of LG99 and hit TJ N1. TJ was basically somewhat peripheral and was one of two Aeo voters so IMO this is why I've stated I would not rule him out of a Kidpen kill.

The team included Aet and RBM. Gonna just post this because I'm still sleepy and mobile sometimes messes with me.

EDIT: The point here IMO is that it shows that even when calling the kill, TUA doesn't always open up with maximum aggression. 

Edited May 7, 2024 by Kasimir

[Kasimir he/him]

EDIT 2: Will probably go back to nap a bit since the husky drama is settled. I am still looking at <RBM, TUA, Weaver>, predominantly TUA. TUA is largely for EoD lurking coupled with a disconnect from events (needed to be @) and the hypothesis the Kidpen kill was put in late. Theoretically the kill could be put earlier but I feel that since Aet, Spark, Wierdo, Cash, and a whole bunch of people were online subsequently, they should have noticed Kidpen train taking off.

Aeo made a post I'm too tired to find that stated the kill moved from Raven to Kidpen and I'm not sure why this has been accepted at face value because why should anyone know anything about where the kill was, only where it ended up?

I'm curious about the lack of advice from RBM's teammates, but that really is a team comp issue as well so I don't know how confident I feel here. The Aeo interaction raises a few question marks but fails to tick a few other key boxes.

I'll puzzle through the rest on a bit more sleep. 

[Through the Living Hope]

1 hour ago, Aeoryi said:

If I told you, it would lose its value.

I'm curious why people are suspicious of Archer. Maybe it could be a huge case of sheep and thread consensus but perhaps there's someone trying to plan an archer attack later on? Seems likely. 

Additonally, Archer hasn't really defended himself much which either gives me the impression that Archer doesn't care/hasn't noticed, or enjoys being read as an elim.

So you feel an obligation to vote because you didn't vote yesterday? What makes you feel that way? Any specific players?

Yelling at a townie won't make them more town, or help them improve. It's much better to guide them with questions, rather than say, "Be more town," and leaving them to struggle and get shrugyeeted in 2 cycles.

As I said earlier, expressing how you feel is a good start. If you're feeling confused, upset, frustrated, angry, or even lost, it's good to voice those feelings in the thread so that way more people can try and help you.

There aren't really any optimal towny moves to make, really.

On an unrelated note, I am townreading you now.

Is it going to be similar to the recent LG or is this something that genuinely concerns you.

The red is a good line of thought, but the green and the blue are contradictory. The green says that "I am less inclined to believe that it is spark because they are new" and then, "and would do that kind of thing," which are two kind of unrelated thoughts, but "I did the same on my first game..." implies that it is an elim thing to do.

I'm unsure what this is saying. Is spark more likely to be town because they did things you did as elim in your first game? Or the other way around.

Maybe this is just a perspective slip, however.

We have already established that Kas cannot read me based on LG99 smh smh

I don’t know just a since I’m new thing I guess

1 hour ago, Archer said:

ok so we're doing this

Aeoryi

I trust Kas :P. 

although I will note that that's the type of observation that comes from elim doc convos, which tend to highlight vote counts

Good to know thanks

[Archer he/him]

1 minute ago, Spark of Hope said:

Good to know thanks

... 

That was an accusation, not advice, but I'm enamoured by your innocence 

28 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

weaver

mainly because I saw them lurking down below

Same, but then they left :(. See ya, Weever

TUA

I've looked how Aeo and Aet interacted with RBM to gently prod them. So I'm side eyeing the most sensible veteran anchor for the team. 

[Aeternum]

I am anything but sensible anchor for any team lol

[Aeoryi she/her]

26 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

EDIT 2: Will probably go back to nap a bit since the husky drama is settled. I am still looking at <RBM, TUA, Weaver>, predominantly TUA. TUA is largely for EoD lurking coupled with a disconnect from events (needed to be @) and the hypothesis the Kidpen kill was put in late. Theoretically the kill could be put earlier but I feel that since Aet, Spark, Wierdo, Cash, and a whole bunch of people were online subsequently, they should have noticed Kidpen train taking off.

Aeo made a post I'm too tired to find that stated the kill moved from Raven to Kidpen and I'm not sure why this has been accepted at face value because why should anyone know anything about where the kill was, only where it ended up?

I'm curious about the lack of advice from RBM's teammates, but that really is a team comp issue as well so I don't know how confident I feel here. The Aeo interaction raises a few question marks but fails to tick a few other key boxes.

I'll puzzle through the rest on a bit more sleep. 

I presume that the kill was moved because no one would choose kidpen imo when they could easily die.

[Weaver of Shadows he/him]

40 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

weaver

mainly because I saw them lurking down below

I’ve been lurking mostly because I’m not sure what to say, I feel and have felt behind this whole game, especially today. Though this does make me a little suspicious of you…I’m not sure what reason you have to vote me, other than lurking, which doesn’t mean a lot to me. Though this could also just be a poke.

So I’m suspicious of you, but not enough to give you my vote…yet.

[Aeoryi she/her]

Is anyone familiar with the concept of being Frozen?

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Kidpen and I want company in the dead doc.

Hurry up and kill each other!!!

 

oh also have a vote tally, we haven't had one of those for a bit

Vote Tally
Archer (3): RoyalBeeMage, Spark of Hope, The Unknown Ajah
Weaver of Lies (2): Aeoryi, Kasimir
RoyalBeeMage (1): Aeternum
The Unknown Ajah (1): Archer
Wierdo (1): Cash67

[RoyalBeeMage he/him]

2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Is anyone familiar with the concept of being Frozen?

not realy...

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

15 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

TUA went for me C2 or C3 (can't remember exact cycle) of LG99 and hit TJ N1. TJ was basically somewhat peripheral and was one of two Aeo voters so IMO this is why I've stated I would not rule him out of a Kidpen kill.

The team included Aet and RBM. Gonna just post this because I'm still sleepy and mobile sometimes messes with me.

EDIT: The point here IMO is that it shows that even when calling the kill, TUA doesn't always open up with maximum aggression. 

I think an important part of my meta, which is certainly controlling, is that I don't really kill based on activity. I only kinda even kill based on threat levels. I have a sort of ethereal list of who I'm afraid of, that I start of the top of. You (Kas) aren't actually that high up until c3ish. People like Araris, Aman, Archer, or Mat are generally higher in the first few turns. People that aren't going to be sussed much (but still a little bit, cause nothing confuses villagers more than having their suspects die and be confirmed v), are pretty active, and have good elim finding rates. I feel that on early cycles, you're really high in the first two, but surprisingly low in the last one, which is also coincidentally when it matters the most in my opinion. 

Unrelated to the above.

This mostly isn't relevant anymore, but can we not exe Aeoryi. I sympathize with not having a typical playstyle, and with switching said playstyle and being suspected for it. I also think that, from what little I know of Aeo, this is about as village as they get. 

And, in response to what was said while I was writing this post, that joke was kinda in bad taste. I don't feel it's my place to bring it up to an IM if/beyond Aeoryi doing, but that's my opinion. 

[Aeternum]

3 minutes ago, Weaver of Lies said:

I’ve been lurking mostly because I’m not sure what to say, I feel and have felt behind this whole game, especially today. Though this does make me a little suspicious of you…I’m not sure what reason you have to vote me, other than lurking, which doesn’t mean a lot to me. Though this could also just be a poke.

So I’m suspicious of you, but not enough to give you my vote…yet.

Lurking, meaning not helping town.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Edit:

20 minutes ago, Archer said:

... 

That was an accusation, not advice, but I'm enamoured by your innocence 

Same, but then they left :(. See ya, Weever

TUA

I've looked how Aeo and Aet interacted with RBM to gently prod them. So I'm side eyeing the most sensible veteran anchor for the team. 

Do you think Drake would do that for the second game in a row?

^ not rhetorical btw, genuine want to know is you and/or others think that's within Drake's wheelhouse. 

6 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Is anyone familiar with the concept of being Frozen?

No. Does it have anything to do with the concept of let(ing) it go?

3 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

Lurking, meaning not helping town.

Generally not what lurking means but it's pretty true either way.

Edited May 7, 2024 by The Unknown Ajah

[Aeoryi she/her]

Being frozen is like being unable to "live post" (react) in thread. 

Generally it's towny to say, "I'm frozen," since that's something that normally goes and stays in an Elim doc 

[Weaver of Shadows he/him]

1 minute ago, Aeternum said:

Lurking, meaning not helping town.

Lurking as in I have nothing of worth to say. I’ve been trying to find the elims but my efforts have been unfruitful. Therefore, I have nothing to say.

 But when I do have something to say, as with Aeo and my response to you yesterday, I’ll make my points.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

Being frozen is like being unable to "live post" (react) in thread. 

Generally it's towny to say, "I'm frozen," since that's something that normally goes and stays in an Elim doc 

Interesting. I would say, for slower paced SE at least, this is the sort of thing more likely to be felt by elims (or new players of course), rather than villagers.

Though I have felt that as both alignments.

[Archer he/him]

11 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

I presume that the kill was moved because no one would choose kidpen imo when they could easily die.

Still doesn't explain why they'd switch to kidpen specifically instead of anyone else

9 minutes ago, Weaver of Lies said:

I’ve been lurking mostly because I’m not sure what to say, I feel and have felt behind this whole game, especially today. Though this does make me a little suspicious of you…I’m not sure what reason you have to vote me, other than lurking, which doesn’t mean a lot to me. Though this could also just be a poke.

So I’m suspicious of you, but not enough to give you my vote…yet.

It's absolutely a poke, but it'll turn into a real vote if you stay neutral and everyone else surpasses you in villagey behaviour 

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

Being frozen is like being unable to "live post" (react) in thread. 

Generally it's towny to say, "I'm frozen," since that's something that normally goes and stays in an Elim doc 

I'm on the fence about this read. I feel like new players don't use the elim doc as much. 

2 minutes ago, Weaver of Lies said:

Lurking as in I have nothing of worth to say. I’ve been trying to find the elims but my efforts have been unfruitful. Therefore, I have nothing to say.

 But when I do have something to say, as with Aeo and my response to you yesterday, I’ll make my points.

You should make a PM and try one on one convos with someone. Or do yourself, someone and Raven, since you know Raven is village, making it ok if they listen in. 

Whoever is going to be exed today, please make a multi person pm before you go

[Aeoryi she/her]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Ajah said:

Interesting. I would say, for slower paced SE at least, this is the sort of thing more likely to be felt by elims (or new players of course), rather than villagers.

Though I have felt that as both alignments.

Yeah, I think (especially w/ new players) people tend to be unsure of what to post often, especially as Elim, but what matters more is whether they mention it or not.

 

Just now, Archer said:

Still doesn't explain why they'd switch to kidpen specifically instead of anyone else

It's absolutely a poke, but it'll turn into a real vote if you stay neutral and everyone else surpasses you in villagey behaviour 

I'm on the fence about this read. I feel like new players don't use the elim doc as much. 

You should make a PM and try one on one convos with someone. Or do yourself, someone and Raven, since you know Raven is village, making it ok if they listen in. 

Whoever is going to be exed today, please make a multi person pm before you go

1. That's the only explanation I have for the Nk choice and that's really the only one that makes sense to me.

2. I think it depends on the player. Some players would totally use the Elim doc more, but others wouldn't. I feel like the majority of new players here would use the doc less, though. Good point to bring up!

[Kasimir he/him]

44 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

I presume that the kill was moved because no one would choose kidpen imo when they could easily die.

My point isn't the presumption the kill moved. It's the presumption it was on Raven, which is incredibly specific as a call to make and no one batted an eye.