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On 6/19/2023 at 8:16 AM, STINK said:

Non-active gang rise up

Alright, so I should be more active now...but I have my class final in two days and I didn't anticipate how much I would be trying to put off studying for it. I'll be mostly gone for the next two days, just skimming and barely reacting to what's in thread. I can spit out a bunch of word salad, but reading and retaining anything coherent from threads will be near-impossible for me--and that's just in general, but it's worse if I'm only skimming like I will be for the next two days. All I remember now is that Fifth was the something-shooter, Mat died going into this cycle, and something about Fadran being distanced?

Anyway, Kasimir asked me and other lurkers for an action schedule so here's mine.

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D2: Entered the game and do nothing. There were no actions taken prior to this point afaik.

N2: Do nothing.

D3: Do nothing.

N3: Take an Ambition charge.

D4: Do nothing.

N4: Take a Prudence charge.

Stillll on Silverlight. I don't know of anyone on the same world as me and I don't think I'd gain anything from using the charges anyway, so I'll hold onto them until further notice.

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Trukal stored wakefulness for a few hours in a pocket medallion. He was likely to need all the focus he could get in the coming days. Now, one might say that he should be staying awake at this point -- his mortal danger had never been higher. But Trukal didn't actually have a wakefulness stockpile at the moment, and he had a rare moment of downtime in which he didn't have to watch his back for researchers or Shards deciding to put a hold on his current state of being alive.

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Walin said:

Alright, so I should be more active now...but I have my class final in two days and I didn't anticipate how much I would be trying to put off studying for it. I'll be mostly gone for the next two days, just skimming and barely reacting to what's in thread. I can spit out a bunch of word salad, but reading and retaining anything coherent from threads will be near-impossible for me--and that's just in general, but it's worse if I'm only skimming like I will be for the next two days. All I remember now is that Fifth was the something-shooter, Mat died going into this cycle, and something about Fadran being distanced?

Anyway, Kasimir asked me and other lurkers for an action schedule so here's mine.

Stillll on Silverlight. I don't know of anyone on the same world as me and I don't think I'd gain anything from using the charges anyway, so I'll hold onto them until further notice.

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Trukal stored wakefulness for a few hours in a pocket medallion. He was likely to need all the focus he could get in the coming days. Now, one might say that he should be staying awake at this point -- his mortal danger had never been higher. But Trukal didn't actually have a wakefulness stockpile at the moment, and he had a rare moment of downtime in which he didn't have to watch his back for researchers or Shards deciding to put a hold on his current state of being alive.

Thanks for coming back alive! Would a brief summary of what's commonly-known at this point help you catch up?

Edited to add: Good luck with your class final btw, sorry I misread!

Edited by Kasimir
Posted

Yes join me on Threnody for the best and last night in the world and the worst hangover in the morning you wont have done anything and youll be somewhere completely random but in the meantime rave cause theres no tomorrow 

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Posted
Just now, JNV said:

Yes join me on Threnody for the best and last night in the world and the worst hangover in the morning you wont have done anything and youll be somewhere completely random but in the meantime rave cause theres no tomorrow 

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Waaaaait you have rave quokkas?

That's it u r my god now im down for the rave

Best & last night in the world, Apocalypse Party & the worst hangover ever!

lesgo

:eyes:

Posted

Yeah a summary would help, especially considering the other inactives! But I still probably won't be on here for long enough at a time to make a difference until my exam is over so don't worry about it in my case; maybe for the others, if they start entering the game again.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Walin said:

Yeah a summary would help, especially considering the other inactives! But I still probably won't be on here for long enough at a time to make a difference until my exam is over so don't worry about it in my case; maybe for the others, if they start entering the game again.

Thanks, I'll get on it next Turn, as there's maybe fifteen minutes left. Either way I'll flag everyone inactive so it's easy to catch by following the chain. I'll try to see if there's a simple/fast format. Either way, all the best with the exam!

Edited to add:

Ngl guys, TJ's gonna shoot me for this but worldhopping always feels like:

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Edited by Kasimir
Posted
32 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

u? aesudan? liar

everyone knows good vorin women's dresses do NOT have pockets

pockets are a lie made to scam vorin men

how u gonna pocket absolutely everyone if u don't even have pockets smh

What on earth makes you think I'm a good vorin women

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i feel like u need maybe a couple more datapoints bro

then we can do the boxplot

:eyes:

well I'll do my best to gather more data about this

for science :eyes:

32 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

clearly its my line now :eyes:

theft is not very honorable of you sir >:(

maybe that's why you can't say the fourth ideal

find out next time on "whose line is it anyway?!" >:P

32 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

#moresecurethancrypto

Crypto? Insecure?

le gasp

But it's The Algorithm! The Sacred Numbers!!!

People are flawed but The Algorithm is objective and never makes mistakes. Obviously the fact that The Algorithm is designed and implemented and maintained by humans would not in any way compromise this Fact, and obviously people would never use the airtight objectivity of The Algorithm as an excuse to further their own agendas. Also, the blockchain system is obviously Purely Mathematical, and clearly they isn't actually a social mechanism for reaching consensus that just happens to have a software implementation, because that might imply that The Sacred Numbers are actually just something humans made up, which is obviously heretical.

How could you even say something like this, I thought you appreciated the joys of crypto :(

38 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I'm aware at least. I'm still going if Drake's down. Tbf JNV wanted to see a rave doc at least once so if they can't move, the rave doc should move to them.

well I'm down

I will silently judge anyone who thinks they have better plans ngl

26 minutes ago, JNV said:

Yes join me on Threnody for the best and last night in the world and the worst hangover in the morning you wont have done anything and youll be somewhere completely random but in the meantime rave cause theres no tomorrow 

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JNV gets it!

I thought they might :P

3 minutes ago, Walin said:

Yeah a summary would help, especially considering the other inactives! But I still probably won't be on here for long enough at a time to make a difference until my exam is over so don't worry about it in my case; maybe for the others, if they start entering the game again.

oh you know same old crem

ppl trying to do voting or whatevs

ppl being bad at getting shards out of containment lol

ruin (JNV) doing what ruin does -- being the literal death star!

odium (me!) doing what odium does -- p a c i f i s m

autonomy doing what autonomy does -- ignoring me :(

khriss doing what khriss does -- decomposing mostly >:P

hoid doing what hoid does -- scheming or something probably

frost doing what frost does -- staying frosty

I think you are now up to speed

Posted
1 minute ago, DrakeMarshall said:

What on earth makes you think I'm a good vorin women

good point u stabbed gavilar

i guess that makes u a bad vorin women

u & adolin both clearly need therapy

1 minute ago, DrakeMarshall said:

well I'll do my best to gather more data about this

your thoughts betray u

i can sense the conflict in u

its not too late to let go of ur hate

return to the Force

2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

theft is not very honorable of you sir >:(

is it theft if im just borrowin' from my bro :eyes:

3 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

maybe that's why you can't say the fourth ideal

oh :(

3 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

find out next time on "whose line is it anyway?!" >:P

where the memes are prequels and the jokes don't matter!

3 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

How could you even say something like this, I thought you appreciated the joys of crypto :(

isn't that why we are plotting crypto fevermeme game where players pay for the privilege of seeing a flip? :eyes:

smh bro i like to mock it as u very well know

u know this b/c u were memeing the crem out of it smh

4 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

ppl trying to do voting or whatevs

ppl being bad at getting shards out of containment lol

ruin (JNV) doing what ruin does -- being the literal death star!

odium (me!) doing what odium does -- p a c i f i s m

autonomy doing what autonomy does -- ignoring me :(

khriss doing what khriss does -- decomposing mostly >:P

hoid doing what hoid does -- scheming or something probably

frost doing what frost does -- staying frosty

I think you are now up to speed

people reading without posting
people lurking without voting
and the cries of the living are breaking on the silent -

screwit i can't parody sound of silence in under a minute im so sorry real art takes time

Posted (edited)

LG95 Night Five: Unanimous Antagonist

Lorn was having quite a week. Frost had waltzed in and taken control of his organization, then gone into hiding. Autonomy was loose and creating childish Avatars Braize-knows-where, and Braize wasn't even there anymore. They'd found Khriss, but with her tricks he couldn't even be sure she was dead, just that she wouldn't be a problem for the near future.

They'd found another of her co-conspirators, though. Telan. That was a decent start.

* * *

Elandera was executed! They were a Standard of Unity Researcher!

The Avatar TROMBONE was created by an irresponsible parent on Threnody!

 

Vote Count:

  • Elandera (6): The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess, Araris Valerian

Hopefully that's accurate but I may have missed votes somewhere. The end result should be the same.

* * *

Night Five has begun!

@Channelknight Fadran is being warned for inactivity! If you don't post this turn, you will be replaced by a pinch hitter or killed. @The Last Fæ and @Turtle, you will get an official warning for next turn if you don't post this turn and will be replaced/killed end of D6.

This turn will end on 10:00 PM PDT / 5:00 AM GMT (+1 Day) on June 21st, in ~24 hours.

 

Shard Status:

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  • Ambition:       CONTAINED :)
  • Autonomy:     BREACHED :(
  • Cultivation:    CONTAINED :)
  • Devotion:       CONTAINED :)
  • Dominion:      CONTAINED :)
  • Endowment:  CONTAINED :)
  • Honor:            CONTAINED :)
  • Invention:       CONTAINED :)
  • Mercy:            CONTAINED :)
  • Odium:           BREACHED :(
  • Preservation: CONTAINED :)
  • Prudence:      CONTAINED :)
  • Ruin:               BREACHED :(
  • Survival:         CONTAINED :)
  • Whimsy:         CONTAINED :ph34r:
  • Valor:              CONTAINED :)

Player List:

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  1. @The Known Novel - Ivam the Mad
  2. @Kasimir - Evgeny Karamazov 
  3. @The Wandering Wizard - The Poet
  4. Fifth Scholar - Dr. Mattithias Gunther Standard of Unity Researcher
  5. @Szeth_Pancakes - Liene
  6. @|TJ| - Al
  7. @DeTess - Tessa DeLoren
  8. Archer - Olivier Cosmos Adonalsium's Chosen Researcher
  9. @JNV - Jai
  10. xinoeph512 - Xorial 17th Shard Researcher
  11. @The Last Fæ -
  12. @DrakeMarshall - Adjunct Professor Uther
  13. Matrim's Dice - Sir Arren Brockett - Khrissala
  14. Sart - 17th Shard Researcher
  15. @STINK - 
  16. Elandera - TelanStandard of Unity Researcher
  17. @Araris Valerian - 
  18. @Walin -  
  19. TheAlpha929 - Felt Jr. 17th Shard Researcher
  20. @Channelknight Fadran -
  21. @Turtle - Letta Turson
  22. VOCALS
  23. PIANO
  24. SAXOPHONE
  25. TROMBONE

Clarifications:

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  • >INSERT FUNNY AND/OR CLEVER EASTER EGG HERE<
  • Lorn Haemtes hasn't been seen in a while, has anyone found them?
  • Anyone actually looking in here or am I pasting this over and over again for nothing?
  • You may only pass one Charge of Investiture or one Shard in a Passing action.
  • Charges of Investiture (whether Autonomy Charges or other Charges) held by Autonomous Players do not count towards the Autonomous Sudden Death Win Condition.
  • Multiple factions can win at the same time if they complete their (Normal or SD) win conditions at the same time. I don't think there's a way to get all 4 main factions to win at the same time, but if you all find one... congratulations?
  • Invention's Investment Ability can be used on Avatars, which will grant Invention an Autonomy Charge.
  • All actions are limited to once per cycle, unless otherwise noted (Autonomy's Shardic, Whimsy's Shardic, and Researcher returning Shards to Containment).
  • Vessel Action and Vessel Shield do not stack. Vessels can "gain" them from other sources, but that only matters if they pass their Shard while they would still have Vessel Action/Vessel Shield from another source.
  • Avatars can exist on the same Shardworld as each other.
  • Shardworlds get a new Doc each time the player list on that Shardworld changes.
  • Avatars and players will be put in the player list for each Shardworld Doc (i.e. you can't pretend you're not there).
  • Shardworld presences are not publicized in thread.
  • Hoid and Khriss's Conversions take place before Shardic Inheritance from Breaching (or other reasons).
  • Consuming Investiture does take actions.
  • Charges of Investiture that are used then Roleblocked are lost, as are Charges of Investiture used on a Roleblocked Shardworld action.
  • Hoid and Khriss do not lose Conversion Charges on Roleblocked or failed conversions.
  • In the event that Hoid and Khriss target the same player for conversion, both conversions fail.
  • The only abilities that contribute to Shardic Breaching are Researcher Siphons, Khriss's double-Siphon, and Hoid's Sabotage.
  • Returned keep the alignment and win condition they died with when they Return.
  • Valor Charges cannot be used on yourself.
  • Worldhopping is only a Day action.
  • Two players using actions to create 1-on-1 PMs with each other will consume both Charges/actions/etc and only create 1 PM.
  • Avatars only count as players for the Autonomous win condition, not for other factions' win conditions.
  • Avatars in Shardworlds and Ambition in the Cognitive Realm should speak in bold - other players should not (a bit for emphasis is okay, just don't write entire sentences).
  • You cannot create PMs with Avatars.
  • You cannot cut players in half.
  • Whimsy has Breached.
  • Ignore previous statement, Whimsy has not Breached.

 

Edited by Ashbringer
  • STINK locked, locked, locked, locked and locked this topic
Posted

Okay, so, Elandera was with Khriss. Give me a moment to figure out wtf went down D4 then.

So the final vote-count was

  • Archer (6): The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess, Matrim's Dice
  • The Bald Brandon (1): Archer

But at an earlier point it was something like:

  • Archer (5): The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess
  • Wizard (3): Archer, Matrim's dice, Elandera

note: the following people did not vote but were active in the thread: Drakemarshall, JNV, Wizard, turtle, Fae

So in theory with 3 more votes, Hoid's team should have been able to make that 6-5 in Archer's favor, or even worse if any Hoidites were voting Archer. Of course, you could argue (correctly) that a dog-pile like that would look mightily suspicious, but it still stands out that no member of Hoid's team tried to save Archer. Some possible explanations:

Hoid's faction thought Archer was unsaveable

In this case, hoid's faction just assumed Archer could not be saved from the execution and let him go. In this case there might have been some bussing, but I don't think more than one Hoid faction member Voted Archer, because any more and it would have been trivially easy to dissolve the Archer wagon without having to go all in on voting wizard. I'd say in this scenario at most one of <The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess> was with Hoid's faction, and quite possibly none. However, this would also mean that the remaining hoidites would be among the less active/inactive players, so the group of <STINK, walin, Fadran, Araris, Fae, turtle>. More on them later

Wizard was also in the Hoid faction

In that case, the Hoid faction was literally stuck between a rock and a hard place and due to the suspicion on Archer might have decided letting Archer die was the lesser of two evils, especially because it could give them a way to then push Mat and Elandera as suspects for the counterwagon. It has the downside of sacrificing a vocal player for one that is mostly inactive though, and if they had successfully flipped the wagon onto e!wizard it could have been used to take heat off of Archer and even put suspicion on those who voted him.

If wizard wasn't just in the Hoid faction but actually Hoid, it would make more sense to preserve wizard over Archer.

In this scenario more hoidites might have been voting Archer than in the previous one as suddenly the Hoid faction isn't just uninterested in Saving Archer but actively wants to bus him to protect wizard. However, I would also expect Wizard to be voting in self defense on Archer.

the Hoid faction is very inactive

In this scenario the Hoid faction simply didn't have the number of active players required to do anything to save Archer. This could be either because Hoid himself was barely active and did not have a full pool of recruits, or because the people recruited by Hoid went inactive, or some mix of the two. In this case once again I don't think more than one Hoidite was bussing Archer, because any more and the Hoid faction should have had the numbers to turn things around.

In addition, it would constrain the pool of players that the remaining hoidites could reasonably be in to: <STINK, walin, Fadran, Araris, Fae, turtle>. The ones in italics are people I think are pretty unlikely to have been recruited due to lack of activity so would have to be Hoid or Village, so it would be more like one or more in <STINK, Araris, turtle> and at most one in <walin, fadran, fae>.

In conclusion, the first and last scenario are actually pretty much identical as far as likely groups to hold the remaining Hoidites, and I think these two are the more likely ones, though Wizard can't be cleared of being a Hoidite just because they were the Archer CW because the wagon was made up of members of Khriss' faction. Furthermore, I'd probably be most willing to execute one of STINK or Araris next cycle. The <STINK, Araris, turtle> is potentially the most Hoidite dense, and turtle might just die to inactivity so isn't up to consideration for me right now.

Posted
1 hour ago, DeTess said:

Okay, so, Elandera was with Khriss. Give me a moment to figure out wtf went down D4 then.

So the final vote-count was

  • Archer (6): The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess, Matrim's Dice
  • The Bald Brandon (1): Archer

But at an earlier point it was something like:

  • Archer (5): The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess
  • Wizard (3): Archer, Matrim's dice, Elandera

note: the following people did not vote but were active in the thread: Drakemarshall, JNV, Wizard, turtle, Fae

So in theory with 3 more votes, Hoid's team should have been able to make that 6-5 in Archer's favor, or even worse if any Hoidites were voting Archer. Of course, you could argue (correctly) that a dog-pile like that would look mightily suspicious, but it still stands out that no member of Hoid's team tried to save Archer. Some possible explanations:

Hoid's faction thought Archer was unsaveable

In this case, hoid's faction just assumed Archer could not be saved from the execution and let him go. In this case there might have been some bussing, but I don't think more than one Hoid faction member Voted Archer, because any more and it would have been trivially easy to dissolve the Archer wagon without having to go all in on voting wizard. I'd say in this scenario at most one of <The Bald Brandon, Kasimir, Szeth_Pancakes, |TJ|, DeTess> was with Hoid's faction, and quite possibly none. However, this would also mean that the remaining hoidites would be among the less active/inactive players, so the group of <STINK, walin, Fadran, Araris, Fae, turtle>. More on them later

Wizard was also in the Hoid faction

In that case, the Hoid faction was literally stuck between a rock and a hard place and due to the suspicion on Archer might have decided letting Archer die was the lesser of two evils, especially because it could give them a way to then push Mat and Elandera as suspects for the counterwagon. It has the downside of sacrificing a vocal player for one that is mostly inactive though, and if they had successfully flipped the wagon onto e!wizard it could have been used to take heat off of Archer and even put suspicion on those who voted him.

If wizard wasn't just in the Hoid faction but actually Hoid, it would make more sense to preserve wizard over Archer.

In this scenario more hoidites might have been voting Archer than in the previous one as suddenly the Hoid faction isn't just uninterested in Saving Archer but actively wants to bus him to protect wizard. However, I would also expect Wizard to be voting in self defense on Archer.

the Hoid faction is very inactive

In this scenario the Hoid faction simply didn't have the number of active players required to do anything to save Archer. This could be either because Hoid himself was barely active and did not have a full pool of recruits, or because the people recruited by Hoid went inactive, or some mix of the two. In this case once again I don't think more than one Hoidite was bussing Archer, because any more and the Hoid faction should have had the numbers to turn things around.

In addition, it would constrain the pool of players that the remaining hoidites could reasonably be in to: <STINK, walin, Fadran, Araris, Fae, turtle>. The ones in italics are people I think are pretty unlikely to have been recruited due to lack of activity so would have to be Hoid or Village, so it would be more like one or more in <STINK, Araris, turtle> and at most one in <walin, fadran, fae>.

In conclusion, the first and last scenario are actually pretty much identical as far as likely groups to hold the remaining Hoidites, and I think these two are the more likely ones, though Wizard can't be cleared of being a Hoidite just because they were the Archer CW because the wagon was made up of members of Khriss' faction. Furthermore, I'd probably be most willing to execute one of STINK or Araris next cycle. The <STINK, Araris, turtle> is potentially the most Hoidite dense, and turtle might just die to inactivity so isn't up to consideration for me right now.

I'm down with Araris, having cased him pretty extensively yesterday and feel STINK has been lurking in Hoid PoE so is worth resolving. But would like to know if have a STINK case?

Posted
8 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I'm down with Araris, having cased him pretty extensively yesterday and feel STINK has been lurking in Hoid PoE so is worth resolving. But would like to know if have a STINK case?

Beyond this PoE not yet. I intend to take a look at Stink and Araris tomorrow to decide who to go after.

Posted
23 minutes ago, DeTess said:

Beyond this PoE not yet. I intend to take a look at Stink and Araris tomorrow to decide who to go after.

Fair. I'm leaning Araris, but that's the way it is: Araris case, and pretty much nothing from STINK.

Posted
1 minute ago, STINK said:

Legit not my fault no-ones come to my world thats on you guys

You're the one deciding you're too cool for raves smh smh take some responsibility there :eyes:

Posted

Yeah the raves of totally no game talk going on and everyone there is totally village and innocent

You're kidding with that one still right

Posted (edited)

Everyone's definitely not Village because Aut showed up to party with yet another new Avatar, but right now, Threnody's just been memes and music, I'm all gamed out after casing Araris and the whatever of last Turn. Just need a damned break.

Edited to add:

@FROST: Keep in mind that Threnody's going to blow up tonight. Drake can't make a shot, so we're just chilling at the rave. You're better off spending your action on Containment Watch for a PoE, if not something else.

Edited by Kasimir
Posted
4 minutes ago, STINK said:

If your avatar is talking I'm not happy with mine

Have you tried switching it off and on again?

Or getting a refund?

Posted

Good morning :D

Village points to DeTess for the big unprompted analysis post. I’d be more cautious of removing all inactives from the conversion pool — if I were part of Team Hoid or Team Khriss, I think I’d want a mix of inactives and active players.

That being said, that may not be the elims’ meta, and since purging inactives didn’t really work for us earlier in the game, we should probably focus our efforts elsewhere for a bit. But I think it’s likely that there’s at least one elim in <walin, fadran, fae>, so we shouldn’t discount them from discussion, especially since the village alt wincon is looking pretty viable.

Posted
1 minute ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

That being said, that may not be the elims’ meta, and since purging inactives didn’t really work for us earlier in the game, we should probably focus our efforts elsewhere for a bit. But I think it’s likely that there’s at least one elim in <walin, fadran, fae>, so we shouldn’t discount them from discussion, especially since the village alt wincon is looking pretty viable.

I'd lean strongly against Fae for SoU, probably a bit for AC as well due to intense inactivity both in this game and all known past games. Mat's profile as a converter indicates he would've not liked that at all.

I could see an E!Walin world, FWIW. Archer was strangely lenient on Walin - voted him briefly on D3, which could be a temporary distancing vote. Walin was next to TBB (dead bottom) on Archer's readslist, but Archer strangely listed him as "reads pending." TBB got way more flack from Archer and you'd expect E!Archer to seize on Walin as an easy bushwhack target.

Probably more that can be said about this, but tonight I'm at an Apocalypse Rave and wanna just chill after the analysis explosion of last Turn >:D 

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