Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: if I were part of Team Hoid or Team Khriss, I think I’d want a mix of inactives and active players. Why? Inactives don’t help you win. They kinda help you pretend that you haven’t lost, but folks not sending in actions or placing votes are functionally already dead. Honestly this reads like an elim getting worried about a shrinking POE. In my own defense, I’m not sure anyone would have converted me, given that I publicly declared I’d be busy for a lot of the game. But I’ll probably need a lot more than that to dig myself out of this hole.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Araris Valerian said: Why? Inactives don’t help you win. They kinda help you pretend that you haven’t lost, but folks not sending in actions or placing votes are functionally already dead. Honestly this reads like an elim getting worried about a shrinking POE. You and Archer both pushed Szeth D3 and Szeth nearly died. The maximum Szeth D3 train size was five votes, and until I staged a last minute intervention convenience CW onto Xino, the only player conceivable as a CW that I had in PoE in sheer 'Idgaf' territory. Mat, for all his talk about Szeth being his 'top V read' made no attempt to save Szeth. I was the Numba Wan Szeth defender. If you want to postulate E!Szeth, then you need: A. To reason that Archer, a flipped Elim, was thoroughly ok with letting Szeth die B. To figure that Hoid was okay with the amount of high attention Szeth received D2/D3, or C. To figure that Mat, who had aggressively defended Szeth, then went on to convert Szeth, also despite that high attention. For B or C, I'll note that you felt high attention was a good reason to V read Archer. I would wager that Szeth would've died if I hadn't been insistent on intervening D3. D. Probably E!me, given I'm Numba Wan Szeth defender We can postulate that, I suppose. I kind of think Szeth just has bad phrasing. Read charitably, Szeth's claim can probably be taken like this: "There is at least one lurker/low activity player on Team Hoid," which seems more palatable - they'd be fools to put all their eggs in one basket. No one intentionally converts an inactive, but it's easy for a low activity player to slip into inactivity. Definitely looking at the <Walin, Turtle> pool mostly for it. There's a side of STINK but I actually like STINK's tone the more I re-read his posts, it's very at ease and - Oh dear God here I am again getting into things when I'm at a RAVE and I'm gonna have fun! >:P
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Why? Inactives don’t help you win. They kinda help you pretend that you haven’t lost, but folks not sending in actions or placing votes are functionally already dead. Honestly this reads like an elim getting worried about a shrinking POE. Yeah, fair. See Kas’s post. I’m bad at phrasing things
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kasimir said: A. To reason that Archer, a flipped Elim, was thoroughly ok with letting Szeth die B. To figure that Hoid was okay with the amount of high attention Szeth received D2/D3, or C. To figure that Mat, who had aggressively defended Szeth, then went on to convert Szeth, also despite that high attention. For B or C, I'll note that you felt high attention was a good reason to V read Archer. I would wager that Szeth would've died if I hadn't been insistent on intervening D3. D. Probably E!me, given I'm Numba Wan Szeth defender We can postulate that, I suppose. I kind of think Szeth just has bad phrasing. Read charitably, Szeth's claim can probably be taken like this: "There is at least one lurker/low activity player on Team Hoid," which seems more palatable - they'd be fools to put all their eggs in one basket. No one intentionally converts an inactive, but it's easy for a low activity player to slip into inactivity. Definitely looking at the <Walin, Turtle> pool mostly for it. There's a side of STINK but I actually like STINK's tone the more I re-read his posts, it's very at ease and - Oh dear God here I am again getting into things when I'm at a RAVE and I'm gonna have fun! >:P Good points, and thanks for bringing them up, since I missed most of that stuff. Given all that the charitable reading seems to be a lot more plausible, and I agree with that interpretation,
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Btw: @Kasimir I have confirmation that a PM has been made.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: Btw: @Kasimir I have confirmation that a PM has been made. Cheers, so I guess that confirms my theory then! Well, it happens, no need to get overexcited about
Ashbringer he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 About 2 hours to get in your actions!
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: About 2 hours to get in your actions! Threnody rn, colorised: Spoiler 1
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Kasimir said: Threnody rn, colorised: Reveal hidden contents Sel rn, colorised: Spoiler 1
Ashbringer he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 LG95 Day Six: Shreds The cosmere refused to stay silent. Hoid dreamed of his Harmony. Khriss her melody. But neither seemed to listen towards the true Tones of the Cosmere. Tessa DeLoren was outside the Shardic Containment Facility, which with the removal of the deadliest Shards had proven to be one of the safer places to be. There were more cards to look for. The Knight of Wands, reversed. STINK was found dead on the surface of a planet, one of Khriss's last journals clutched in their grasp. The Justice card. Fadran was found near where Oliver Cosmos had been, attempting to mix Investitures that should have remained seperate. It was a sense of progress. But it wasn't done. Hoid was still out there. Bavadin was still out there. Tessa had to keep going, had to keep searching. The Ten of Swords. And Tessa DeLoren was found in the Shardic Containment Facility, lifeless, the last card she drew in her hands, torn to shreds. * * * DeTess was killed! They were a 17th Shard Researcher! STINK was killed! They were a Standard of Unity Researcher! Channelknight Fadran has died to inactivity! They were an Adonalsium's Chosen Researcher! No Shards have Breached Containment! * * * Day Six has begun! @The Last Fæ and @Turtle are being warned for inactivity! If you don't post this turn, you will be replaced by a pinch hitter or killed. (And note, I don't have any pinch hitters at the moment.) This turn will end on 10:00 PM PDT / 5:00 AM GMT (+1 Day) on June 23rd, in ~48 hours. Shard Status: Spoiler Ambition: CONTAINED Autonomy: BREACHED Cultivation: CONTAINED Devotion: CONTAINED Dominion: CONTAINED Endowment: CONTAINED Honor: CONTAINED Invention: CONTAINED Mercy: CONTAINED Odium: BREACHED Preservation: CONTAINED Prudence: CONTAINED Ruin: BREACHED Survival: CONTAINED Whimsy: CONTAINED Valor: CONTAINED Player List: Spoiler @The Known Novel - Ivam the Mad - @Kasimir - Evgeny Karamazov - @The Wandering Wizard - The Poet - Fifth Scholar - Dr. Mattithias Gunther - Standard of Unity Researcher @Szeth_Pancakes - Liene - @|TJ| - Al - DeTess - Tessa DeLoren - 17th Shard Researcher Archer - Olivier Cosmos - Adonalsium's Chosen Researcher @JNV - Jai - xinoeph512 - Xorial - 17th Shard Researcher @The Last Fæ - @DrakeMarshall - Adjunct Professor Uther - Matrim's Dice - Sir Arren Brockett - Khrissala Sart - 17th Shard Researcher STINK - Standard of Unity Researcher Elandera - Telan - Standard of Unity Researcher @Araris Valerian - @Walin - TheAlpha929 - Felt Jr. - 17th Shard Researcher Channelknight Fadran - Adonalsium's Chosen Researcher @Turtle - Letta Turson - VOCALS PIANO SAXOPHONE TROMBONE Clarifications: Spoiler >INSERT FUNNY AND/OR CLEVER EASTER EGG HERE< Lorn Haemtes hasn't been seen in a while, has anyone found them? Anyone actually looking in here or am I pasting this over and over again for nothing? You may only pass one Charge of Investiture or one Shard in a Passing action. Charges of Investiture (whether Autonomy Charges or other Charges) held by Autonomous Players do not count towards the Autonomous Sudden Death Win Condition. Multiple factions can win at the same time if they complete their (Normal or SD) win conditions at the same time. I don't think there's a way to get all 4 main factions to win at the same time, but if you all find one... congratulations? Invention's Investment Ability can be used on Avatars, which will grant Invention an Autonomy Charge. All actions are limited to once per cycle, unless otherwise noted (Autonomy's Shardic, Whimsy's Shardic, and Researcher returning Shards to Containment). Vessel Action and Vessel Shield do not stack. Vessels can "gain" them from other sources, but that only matters if they pass their Shard while they would still have Vessel Action/Vessel Shield from another source. Avatars can exist on the same Shardworld as each other. Shardworlds get a new Doc each time the player list on that Shardworld changes. Avatars and players will be put in the player list for each Shardworld Doc (i.e. you can't pretend you're not there). Shardworld presences are not publicized in thread. Hoid and Khriss's Conversions take place before Shardic Inheritance from Breaching (or other reasons). Consuming Investiture does take actions. Charges of Investiture that are used then Roleblocked (or otherwise fail) are lost, as are Charges of Investiture used on a Roleblocked Shardworld action. Hoid and Khriss do not lose Conversion Charges on Roleblocked or failed conversions. In the event that Hoid and Khriss target the same player for conversion, both conversions fail. The only abilities that contribute to Shardic Breaching are Researcher Siphons, Khriss's double-Siphon, and Hoid's Sabotage. Returned keep the alignment and win condition they died with when they Return. Valor Charges cannot be used on yourself. Worldhopping is only a Day action. Two players using actions to create 1-on-1 PMs with each other will consume both Charges/actions/etc and only create 1 PM. Avatars only count as players for the Autonomous win condition, not for other factions' win conditions. Avatars in Shardworlds and Ambition in the Cognitive Realm should speak in bold - other players should not (a bit for emphasis is okay, just don't write entire sentences). You cannot create PMs with Avatars. You cannot cut players in half. Whimsy has Breached. Ignore previous statement, Whimsy has not Breached. Ignore previous two statements, Whimsy will breach when it wants to. Ignore previous statement, Whimsy has not not not Breached. 3
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Urgh. Asked for the STINK shot instead of blowing up the planet on the hope he was Hoid, then downplayed suspicion of STINK in thread in case of protects. Largely has to do with Archer completely ignoring STINK, and the fact that based off Archer, Walin and Araris both look sus (there's also a sus interaction with Turtle), so connecting them to STINK makes a tad more sense than connecting them to Turtle. And V!Detess? What the hell was with that shot even? @DrakeMarshall That you? Edited to add: On the bright side, I guess this means that AC is officially 2 players left? Hoid and a flunky? Edited June 22, 2023 by Kasimir
|TJ| he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 Hmmm I used Endowment's Charge on STINK and now I know why it failed.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 yep I shot DeTess sorry it was a risky shot, but also seemed like probably the single best conversion target, but also apparently not and tbf, I really didn't have all that much time to decide >:P I had about 10 minutes and naturally I spent 5 of those bemoaning the fact that I had such short notice about Threnody not actually blowing up :P. anyways! Breaking News: This is your friendly neighborhood Serial Killer, Vessel of both Autonomy and Odium I'm kind of a bad guy, BUT I'm also very cute. That is all.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: yep I shot DeTess sorry it was a risky shot, but also seemed like probably the single best conversion target, but also apparently not and tbf, I really didn't have all that much time to decide >:P I had about 10 minutes and naturally I spent 5 of those bemoaning the fact that I had such short notice about Threnody not actually blowing up :P. anyways! Breaking News: This is your friendly neighborhood Serial Killer, Vessel of both Autonomy and Odium I'm kind of a bad guy, BUT I'm also very cute. That is all. what the actual f-
|TJ| he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 Quote drake could be auto I suppose (perhaps action economy could disprove it but im not concentrating on that, someone could let me know) no one let me know also im never gonna stop playing off-the-cuff smh, my reads have been immaculate this game. its my overthinking that ruins my reads >> also very greedy of drake to hog 2 shards >:( grrr
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, |TJ| said: no one let me know also im never gonna stop playing off-the-cuff smh, my reads have been immaculate this game. its my overthinking that ruins my reads >> also very greedy of drake to hog 2 shards >:( grrr Says the guy who said I was Autonomy smh Aren't you implying that clearly I've been the real Autonomy all along and Drake's the imposter?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, |TJ| said: also very greedy of drake to hog 2 shards >:( grrr look there's a whole 13 more in containment smh you guys just couldn't get your act together enough to get them out clearly
|TJ| he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kasimir said: Says the guy who said I was Autonomy smh i did say that was a paranoid theory and paranoia = overthinking :P. tbh just before drake posted it, I did want to say I still kinda think you were auto but hey, it was one of you two :P. edit: Just now, DrakeMarshall said: look there's a whole 13 more in containment smh you guys just couldn't get your act together enough to get them out clearly everyone is raving, no one wants shards -.- Edited June 22, 2023 by |TJ|
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, |TJ| said: i did say that was a paranoid theory and paranoia = overthinking :P. tbh just before drake posted it, I did want to say I still kinda think you were auto but hey, it was one of you two :P. There you go, validated, clearly I'm the real Autonomy, and you both are bargain-bin knock-offs. You can tell from the fact that I have no bloody idea what the f just f happened in the thread and I am absolutely done with this -.-
|TJ| he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kasimir said: You can tell from the fact that I have no bloody idea what the f just f happened in the thread and I am absolutely done with this -.- i was just about to say i didnt know why you were surprised by drakes post, you were speaking so familiar of auto in the thread i thought they had claimed to you, but apparently not lmaoo xD
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, |TJ| said: everyone is raving, no one wants shards -.- hey I wanted Survival smh I spent multiple nights trying to get Survival! If I had Survival when I did this, I could've been basically immortal and it'd have pretty much been the most epic openwolf of all time >:(
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, |TJ| said: i was just about to say i didnt know why you were surprised by drakes post, you were speaking so familiar of auto in the thread i thought they had claimed to you, but apparently not lmaoo xD Doesn't the fact that I'm actually surprised by Drake's post therefore imply............... ............................................ ....................................................... ? A) Drake is not in fact Aut B ) Drake is a cursed murderpuppy with impulse control problems C) I'm not drunk enough for this drek smh D) All of the above E) wait some form of all of the above but 'I'm not playing twenty questions about who Aut is but also what the f seriously just happened' Edited to add: Dead people don't judge. I'm just honestly too done for this drek today. I'm not going to do anything. I'm done. Edited June 22, 2023 by Kasimir
|TJ| he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kasimir said: A) Drake is not in fact Aut B ) Drake is a cursed murderpuppy with impulse control problems C) I'm not drunk enough for this drek smh D) All of the above E) wait some form of all of the above but 'I'm not playing twenty questions about who Aut is but also what the f seriously just happened' I was happily ignorant and now im six ways confused -.-
Kasimir he/him Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Just now, |TJ| said: I was happily ignorant and now im six ways confused -.- how the f do you think i feel bro -.- Edited to add: Sorry I should stop swearing but I don't seem to be able to bloody hell Edited June 22, 2023 by Kasimir
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