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I'm no physicist and I also skimmed like half the thread since it seemed like nobody was saying anything new: I feel like I either missed the memo, or the idea is built on a false premise. Isn't what Navani is doing just an application of mechanical advantage to conjoined Fabrials? Energy is Force x Displacement (distance traveled), and so if conservation of energy is maintained, an increase in the distance traveled (or the velocity of an object over the period of time) would just mean that the force applied is decreased. Conservation of energy WoB:
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from my understanding, the Nahel bond was an escalation of arms relatively late into the Desolations, which was itself a response to singers gaining similar powers, which was a response to the heralds and their powers, which was a response to the fused being able to be reborn (since that's the point of the oathpact), which itself must've happened within about 40 years or so after the destruction of Ashyn (since some of the Heralds lived there, and also don't look like they're in their 80s [working under the assumption that their immortality freezes aging, but doesn't de-age or anything like that]) So no, the timeline doesn't work out for Leshwi to have become a windrunner, since we know that the Nahel bond was formed to copy the Heralds' powers and the Heralds gained their powers only after the Fused were created. I mean she could've formed while she was a fused, from Venli we know that it is possible but she would've then had to kill the spren, otherwise we'd probably see her in shardplate and with a blade in the story. Some points against it: The fused can't let (other) spren into their gemhearts, if their souls completely kick out a singers', I don't see how there'd be any space for a spren. That might not be necessary for the bond. Whether Honor would've allowed it, or could've forbidden it -- he had no hand in created the bond, the spren did it of their own volition, is also debatable. They are also cognitive shadows, and cognitive shadows have trouble with those sorts of things iirc.
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Stormfather inconsistency [Spoilers SA5 prologue]
DiePie replied to Evendale's topic in Stormlight Archive
You do have to admit, that Jezrien's death was an unusual circumstance. His death also severely impacted the Oathpact, which would have sent much larger ripples than the "normal", non-permanent, death that the Stormfather would've detected. I'm not saying that that means there's a discrepancy, but that there's room for the Stormfather to potentially be able to sense the Oathpact, but not be powerful enough (or watchful enough) to know simply when a herald dies. -
(I'm only looking at Alethkar here because Kaladin's flashbacks are the only look into birth rates we have) I was pretty sure that Isaak (the in-world person) remarked that infant mortality rates were high on Roshar, but I can't find the quote so I'm just going to assume he was actually talking about era 2 Scadrial and I'm just being forgetful. But anyways, while Scadrial def follows the DTM, I think Roshar is designed specifically to avoid those similarities to our world. As noted above birth rates are already low, though we don't have exact figures, the fact it never comes up in Kaladin's flashbacks, combined with the removal of the common forms of death (mainly contagious diseases) means that I'll assume it's as low as pre-industrial infant mortality rates get. However I do want to bring up that death rates among early adults is atrocious in Alethkar because of the Vengeance pact. We see people being regularly conscripted/joining the army within Kalidin's flashbacks. And it's safe to say that the constant fighting (a battle every few weeks, with the thrill) would mean that few of them return home. I also remember at some point, a character saying that half of the eligible men in hist hometown enlisted in the army when Alethkar went to war on the shattered plains, obviously that's not indicative of much, he's probably exaggerating and that was a rather abnormal time. But it still helps develop my point that there was a lot of battle-field casualties. Which, side-note, is something I like about Alethkar's culture is that this sort of prolonged mortality rate is what normally causes polygamy, however, women are needed as scholars, and other roles that involve writing and in the Ardentia. Which means that there isn't as large of a gender imbalance, and not as much pressure for people to get married. Getting back to my main point, the birth rate in Alethkar has to be above what we would normally consider replacement rate (it's an average of ~2.1 births per women in the US today) in order for the country to maintain a stable population. However, the end of the world isn't going to last forever. At some point the desolation will end and that increased birth rate will lead to a baby-boom. So if I had to place it on the DTM, I would put Alethkar in stage 1, about 10 years away from stage 2, though it's probably more analogous to the post WW2 baby-boom than the DTM, because infant mortality rate is already so low.
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It felt to me that an entire paragraph being spent on that idea meant that it was more than just a simile, if it had been one line then I would say the same. You're probably right, but I like my theory that the heralds are all Stormlight Savants.
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Considering how similar Taln's condition is to those suffering from the Reod in Elantris, I assumed that that kind of Insanity was more a result of pain + time. I doubt the rebirths helped either. iirc cognitive shadows are effected by people's perceptions of them, though I couldn't find the WoB. I did find this one, which could be of use: I also think that the Heralds are stormlight savants (either because of a Syl line, or a WoB, where they say that the Heralds don't have the same protections that the Radiants do from the Nahel Bond). Also keep in mind that Fused store Stormlight/Voidlight in their gemhearts, which could prevent them from becoming savants.
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Something that I don't think has been mentioned is that being a Stormlight savant might also give minor precognition (RoW spoilers): And if Vader is a nigh-unstoppable killing machine who is so far above the power level of the average Radiant that a fight would be no contest that means I can throw one of the Heralds at him right? Besides, Nale is a Radiant so he counts... technically. Also re-reading that chapter means we can put an "unchained" Bondsmith against him. Under those conditions it comes down to how close the Bondsmith could get to Vader. If the Bondsmith could touch him I think the phrasing works out that Jedi have a "Connection" to the force, and that since the armor is generally seen as part of Vader, it wouldn't prevent the Bondsmith from messing with connection. But getting back on track, it seems that getting close is the problem. A Radiant souped up on Stormlight would be faster and more maneuverable than Vader, I don't know much about Star Wars, but from what I've seen the Sith whose fighting styles are being fast/maneuverable would be less maneuverable than your average Windrunner. Combine that with the ability to take multiple hits before going down and the fact that Shardblades can take any shape (below a certain size I assume), and once a Radiant got within arms reach a fight would be over in their favor. So what it gets down to is how much force can a force user apply (I guess I'm going off Vader here since he's the extreme, and examples of him have already been given), and if the Radiant could heal themselves for the time it takes for Vader to tire himself out, and no longer apply that force (so the Radiant can counter-attack)... Which I guess brings me back to where the rest of the conversation is, that it depends on how strong the force-user really is.
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Discuss the Stormlight 5 Prologue Here
DiePie replied to LewsTherinTelescope's topic in Cosmere Discussion
that would explain why the Ghostbloods know so much about Shallan in the first place, and how they were able to manipulate her so well -
Said this in the Cosmere Discussions thread, but if this is a Gavilar hate-thread then I think it's worth posting again here: The only thing I'm sad about is how we don't get to see him get his crem get kicked in. Seeing him get humiliated by Szeth would've been such a treat.
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Chanarach [Stormlight 5 Prologue Spoilers]
DiePie replied to Could Be Fire's topic in Stormlight Archive
This could be Re-Shephir, an unmade that Shallan knows well enough to make it afraid of being trapped in a gemstone (again), and Re-Shephir's violent fascination with humans infecting the Davar household similarly to [MINOR SPOILERS FOR THE RECKONERS] This could be a more specific explanation for how an unmade was effecting the Davar family. The timeline would have to be stretched a bit, with Re-Shephir only being in the tower a maximum of 5 years rather than escaping centuries ago, but this would give us insight as to how Re-Shephir escaped imprisonment. -
Discuss the Stormlight 5 Prologue Here
DiePie replied to LewsTherinTelescope's topic in Cosmere Discussion
If Shallan killed her Channarach (I hope I spelled that right) with a Shardblade then why would her Mother's soul still be in the safe? She would have needed to capture her mother's soul somehow right? The only realistic way (at least until we know more about the circumstances surrounding Shallan's mother's death) would be in a Gemstone*, which would require for Shallan to a; intimately know the entity in question and b; intentionally try to trap her mother, which I don't think is too far a stretch. If Shallan had already been playing around with Stormlight her making her mother "go there" as a method of getting rid of her. Which is like you would do with Stormlight, while people often "breath" it in, it's been established that it's the intent that's necessary not the actual physical actions; and Shallan as a child (and as a Lightweaver) might have been more willing to accept and internalize that than adults that we see in other orders. Well, that or use Raysium but that might help cause the cut of Jezrien's soul from the Oathpact that we see, or more importantly I don't think Shallan would've had access to any Raysium. I can't remember how the suspicious the phrasing actually was, but this might be corroborated in OB when Shallan fends off Re-Shephir. Any "like she had already done this before", or use of the word "familiar" during that scene could be a sign that she had trapped Channarach in a Gemstone. While perhaps she had blocked out the event itself, she might have remembered it subconsciously. *while there are other methods, such as devices sold by the IRE mentioned during OB and potentially copperminds used by nicrosil(?) ferrings, I think it's reasonably to assume that Shallan didn't have access to any of them -
I don't know how likely it is, but Kel might be trying to act in Sazed's interests, i.e. Sazed wants to make sure there's some level of Scadrian Influence throughout the Cosmere so that whenever something inevitably threatens him he'll have some additional resources to draw upon... Or at least Kelsier thinks he is
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perhaps the section of Silverlight where the Rosharan texts are kept is lit by spheres in order to give it the feel of an authentic Rosharan library, which would warrent the nickname "The Stormlight Archive" since it's the archive which would be distinct because of the lighting.
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Discuss the Stormlight 5 Prologue Here
DiePie replied to LewsTherinTelescope's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I think the reason that the Stormfather seemed so much like a different person with Gavilar than he did with Gavilar I think is because he is. Brandon has implied before that the Stormfather has started the bonding process with more people than just Gavilar and Dalinar. there might be a better WoB for it, but this is the only one I could find on short notice. But the way I interpret it as is that the Stormfather starts bonding Gavilar (maybe it's his first try, maybe it's not, but it's early on in his search), and Gavilar turns out to be a pile of crem. Just terrible, wants nothing other than to be immortal and his big pitch to the Stormfather is to knowingly cause the deaths of millions. So after Gavilar's death, he swears to himself not to choose Dalinar (whom he remarks has potential) with the fear that he'll turn up like Gavilar, and goes off to try and find someone else to be a Bondsmith. Over the course of the next 6 years he fails miserably, and eventually he, running out of time, turns to Dalinar as his last option. The Stormfather hates this, and between that and how badly he handled Gavilar he spends the early days between him and Dalinar being very distant, to the point that Dalinar has to go to the top of Urithiru and guilt trip the Stormfather into accepting his first oath. The Stormfather, while still proud, is much more humble and suspicious when we first meet him. He hates that he was proven wrong so many times. Also I think that a good reason the Stormfather flip flopped between being more storm-like and more human-like has to do with how breaking oaths effects bonded Spren: When Kaladin breaks his oaths, Syl begins to act more like a Windspren and loses a lot of her mental ability. I think that when Gavilar was closer to saying the first oath the Stormfather was more human-like, and when he was further away the Stormfather acted less like a person. On another note, the only thing I didn't like about the reading was how we didn't see Gavilar get his crem kicked in by Szeth.- 576 replies
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wouldn't he need Stormlight (or some other easily-accessible form of investiture, since we can see that Aux can convert it with some effort) to do that? Assuming Sig formed a Nahel bond, the Spren could turn into anything made out of god-metal
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so like the execution is also making Hemalurgic spikes? I could imagine that those weird burning rocks that are used to make the warriors are created in that way, where the death of the prisoners is being used to capture the investiture of the sun...
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Somewhere along the thread I got an idea, the Night Brigade can track Sig from planet to planet right? Which means they can in some way detect where he jumped to. This could be why Hoid hasn't been "skipping", since it would allow groups like the 17th shard to figure out his location. Which would explain why we have always seen him use Perpendicularities when possible.
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if he were to say, jump to a planet every 2 (earth) weeks, he could cover 27 worlds in a year. Hoid seems to be spending a lot more time on major shard worlds than Sigzil is, interfering with events etc. We don't really have a good read on how Hoid spends his time, but it's probably safe to say that he has been on less than 200 planets. Using those numbers Sig would have "seen" as much of the Cosmere as Hoid has in under a decade.
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It seemed to me that Sigzil just refers to the Dawnshard as his "Torment", because of how much pain it's brought to him. He constant curses his inability to harm others as a Torment because it's a direct manifestation of his struggle, something he didn't ask for, didn't want, something he sees himself as being tricked into. Though getting further from what we know, I think that Aux died after he took up the Dawnshard. Sig may have been told that his oaths as a Radiant would negate some of the Dawnshard's effects -- which would help explain why he thought he was tricked -- but it didn't. Now he's on the run from the "Night Brigade", and has been for what seems to be a while (I think a few years, but all we know for certain it could be anywhere from a few, seemingly long, weeks and centuries spent running, with the Dawnshard preventing his Spiritweb from changing significantly), and during that time he was forced to break his oaths to survive, get away from the Brigade, etc.
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Everything they have feels scavenged. Perhaps the colony ship that brought them there was able to shield itself from the heat of the sun or in some way facilitate the growing of trees (which could be done extremely quickly if you could shield them from most of the heat but let the investiture through) but something went wrong and so they're reduced to hooking up scout-craft to create ramshackle cities using the scraps that are left.
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I interpreted this as a sign that the binding of Ba-Ado-Mishram has been undone, and that this was how Spren death worked before the recreance
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Shai from "the Emperor's Soul" is my guess. Her quest to find Hoid has always seemed too much like a Chekhov's gun to me to not turn up later.
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I feel awkward asking this, but yeah the title is basically the point of this post. Like Brandon talks at the end of the video about how it's sort-of a body-switch, but he's indistinguishable from Yumi in every way, so would the spirits go to those lengths to keep up appearances?
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Painters seem to be a job that anyone (with the right skills) can do, thus the comparison to teachers, policemen, etc.
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SP3 - Quick theory on a possible link to Taldain
DiePie replied to Ixthos's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It seems to me that their planet is tidally-locked (I would call it a moon, but I don't know whether that would apply) between a star and a planet so that one side is always facing the planet, and the other the star. While I'm not an astronomer, I'd bet that the star being more reddish means that it's bigger, and that means their planet can be located closer to the planet that is tidally-locking theirs. Looking back on it, Yumi being on a day-night cycle makes the most sense, and I suppose it would make sense for her people to live on the 2nd planet that painter's people observed in their telescopes.
