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The branch might be a branch of fain life (which sounds dangerous, let's hope Stormlight back 5 isn't a zombie outbreak) or quite possibly bones looking like branches, not Dakhor bones but Tamu Keks. It's confirmed that it's from Yolen¹ A vial of pale sand refers to white sand from Taldain, it's confirmed² A couple of thick hairpins probably refers to Hemalurgic spikes? Might refer to Soulstamps? A lock of golden hair. The Elantrians had silver hair, so it's not from them. Probably the Royal Locks of Idris from Nalthis. It might also possibly be from the ancestors of the modern-day Iriali. Podman36 Did the Iriali have inhuman ancestry at some point in the past? Brandon Sanderson Depends on your definition of human. Most would say yes. Skyward release party (Nov. 6, 2018) A silver knife from Threnody, presumably An odd flower preserved in some kind of solution could refer to Tears of Edgli from Nalthis (they are Invested)³, it could also refer to Patji's Fingers flowers from First of the Sun (they're Invested as we see in the novella, and the Ghostbloods already have Aviar from there, so they can definitely access the place), or Marewills from Scadrial (though those are not Invested objects but Thaidakar is Kelsier) The chunk of pale pink crystal is confirmed to be an aether Questioner Will we see Aether of Night eventually? Brandon Sanderson I can't promise. You've seen the aethers; Mraize's room of trophies. But I can't absolutely promise I'll work it in... The question is, if I find the time. I just stay consistent on the mainline Cosmere books. If I find the time, I'll get Aether of Night. Skyward Houston signing (Nov. 19, 2018) 1: 2: 3:

Presumably, all of Jak & Nicki's stories are true but embellished a lot. Pits of Eltania did have factual information in it. Sinister Soirée less so. Ghastly Gondola also featured Nazh, so I'm inclined to think there's some truth to that, Nicki Savage also seems more reliable than Jak in general.

RoW

Recently someone got a WoB on this Also, if you've heard or read Sixth of the Dusk sequel (if you haven't, here's the link: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/448/#e14408) then you might've noticed that we get a hint about future societies there Basically, the Lighteyes Darkeyes caste system might continue on to era 4. Regarding Dalinar creating a schism in Vorinism. This could just create a split into two religions or denominations, like Catholics & Protestants. Vorinism already has that with Eastern beliefs in the Kadasixes and Thaylen merger with the Passions. So "classical" Vorinism could survive. Regarding Knights Radiant invalidating the Lighteyes/Darkeyes caste system. Not necessarily. They might give a way to elevate yourself beyond the system while allowing the system to stay. Vorinism already makes allowances like this with their ardents being beyond Vorinism's gender segregation, plus organizations like the Stormwardens exist, not with the direct approval of Vorin structures but still without direct actions taken against it. The Knights Radiant would definitely be a powerful enough organization to go against Vorinism. The origin of the Lighteyes being traced back to the Knights Radiant did not stop the system from being created, it probably wouldn't stop it from continuing. Indeed the fact that Lighteyes can trace themselves back to the Knights Radiant could instead be used to bolster the existing hierarchy.

"in no particular pattern"? The pattern is what makes Elantris Elantris.

More Devotion and Dominion fanart!

Gavinor?

Eshonai?

Granted! You can no longer pee. I wish for an inventory (like in video games) irl

So, it's not about how they're created but whether they're autonomous or not. That makes a lot of sense with the names "Avatar" and "Splinter".

Do dahns even apply to the Bridgecrews? All the small rights of upper dahns is stripped from them. They were not sold or purchased outside of Dalinar and Sadeas because of their role in the war system, not because their state of being was any better. I agree that many in the Bridgecrews wouldn't have self-identified as slaves but I'd argue that's a "Bridge 4 is the unluckiest" situation, simply having someone below them so they themselves wouldn't be the lowest of the low. And to many of them the distinction wouldn't have mattered. It was basically a death sentence and only a few (Kal and Lopen) believed that they had a chance to be free men again. Normally, I'd be all for fact-checking and semantics but I'm afraid I still think this is pedantry at best and de-contextualization at worst, I'm sorry. Okay, going with Jash & your prev agreement, let's just drop this particular avenue of discussion

@therunner then why exactly do you think the distinction that you draw between slavery or gulag/conscript/forced labour camp matters for the Bridgecrews?

A lot of you are drawing comparisons with irl military and the fact that these exact situations are viewed differently as arguments for why we should view these things that are happening in the books through a different lens as well. I should point out that people write about those irl military stuff and point out that we shouldn't see these situations differently. People write about the grinding down of personality and other aspects of military training, military law with conscription & desertion, etc and argue that morally these things are wrong, a violation of personal freedom and rights, exploitation. It's just that we, as a society, find the situation, profitable for us at large and so we see them differently. Attributing stuff like patriotism, heroism, chivalry, self-sacrifice, martyrdom, etc to them.

Booboo Stewart as Kaladin Dave Bautista as Dalinar Ming Na Wen as Navani are just golden, once you see it, you can't unsee it, it's canon™. The end.

I assume this idea comes from Dawnshards being involved in the destruction of Ashyn, alongside the Surges? Good question, how could Unite be used to tear someone to pieces? Perhaps it was used by them to become Vessels for the Shards of Adonalsium instead of to tear him to pieces?

Kabsal, the Davar family steward as well as other household staff, possibly Lin Davar himself, the Sleepless who mimicked a pen, Jin who looked Iriali, apparently a lot of former freelance spies as implied by Ishnah

Which had to do with the whole Vorin Alethi caste system, which allowed all of this to happen quite smoothly. The situation with the other Bridgecrews weren't any definition of good either, it was just that Sadeas' Bridgecrews were that bad. That their situation was bad enough that there's no point comparing their lot with slaves. Unless you want to argue about their labour time and that they weren't bred?

Hmm... are you sure that isn't just threatening to brand them slaves rather than contractually slaves for a period (if they survive that long, period of indentured hard labour kind of deal) thing? They had to survive a certain impossible no. of Bridgeruns to be free men, iirc Their membership comprised of deserters, criminals, foreigners who got swindled to poverty or were prisoners of war and homeless broke people, one would assume they were slaves. If you're right then gulags would be more accurate comparison. Regardless, they were cannon fodder and expendable. How it was simply more cost effective for them to die. We saw why Bridge 4 was the "unlucky" Bridgecrew. The company analogy doesn't work because you trying to leave the company won't be a criminal offense, the Bridgecrews don't have that. They're just legally not slaves, but they effectively pretty much were and kept that way with the system in place.

*puts aside thoughts on human rights in the military with some difficulty* You're wrong here, btw. They are slaves. They are explicitly called slaves. That's why Kaladin had that brand on his forehead, for being a dangerous slave who tried to escape multiple times. Sadeas owned the Bridgecrews. Explicitly owned. Dalinar traded his Shardblade, Oathbringer to transfer ownership, as an exchange, and then set them free. It's not that a few of them were slaves and the rest were in the Bridgecrews as punishment either but that's an easy misreading to make. Those people were enslaved as punishment. Also, what exactly does it contribute to your argument if they weren't slaves? If they were indentured or something? The conditions are still the same, it's just "technically" not slavery.

I would interpret it as the Rhythm of rebellion too. Hatred promoting growth. Growth promoting hatred would be Competition, I guess? I like "Freelight" a lot.

This a problem that exists in every religion and region, not inherent or endemic to certain ones. Not saying that certain problems aren't or at least exaggerated by these factors because they definitely are but let's not erase the difficulties faced by people leaving your religion & denomination, living in western countries because we know that's a thing, and they talk about these things.

We've been told that while her heritage is South Scadrian, she's from Silverlight

https://coppermind.net/w/index.php?oldid=122581 https://coppermind.net/wiki/Stick these should answer your question