Honorless

Now I'm having a VERY bad premonition of someone restoring the Sibling and ending up freeing Ba-Ado-Mishram

Honestly, I would if I could. mot? Yeah, hence the visions. But that still leaves us with no clues as to how Bondsmiths are normally chosen. Stormfather might go around, ready to accept an oath from a worthy would-be Radiant but what would Nightwatcher and Sibling do?

I would be Second of the Noon

Invigorators? How else would someone bond her then? Does she choose somehow, wouldn't that would mean she doesn't always stay at the Valley waiting for wishmakers Yeah, I remember that part from Baxil's interlude where he and Av discuss the Nightwatcher. However, I can't imagine that no one, in the history of Roshar, asked her to be turned into a Surgebinder. I wonder what she gave them as boon and curse, and if there were cases where she found the supplicant worthy of the boon and if she still included a curse. If she is a Bondsmith spren, then like Stormfather it must've been a known fact at the time, after all she's quite famous. What, with her wish granting and what-not. Someone has to have also come to her, hoping to join not just the Radiants but the Order which seems to be the most respected among them.

Dalinar asked if Stormfather and Cultivation were two, which Stormfather found hilarious. He told Dalinar that he'd like to see him try. I know right, plus this book would show Willshapers AND more of Odium's forces, hopefully more info on Voidbinding

Same level, yes. Nothing about her definitively being one of the three though. I think there's another WoB that says Cusicesh is connected to the Sibling but not in the way that they were thinking. So Cusicesh probably isn't one of the three. Wonder what the Sibling is like, then. Ugh, waiting for the next books is killing me.

Hello, first post, be gentle with me We don't really know that the Nightwatcher is a Bondsmith spren. It's a good theory, seems widely accepted and quite probable. But so far as I know, no in-book quote or WoB confirms her as such. I think it's likely that she probably is one of the three Bondsmith spren, as a counterpart to the Stormfather. She already has a magic system (-ish?) associated with her, the Boon and Curse: granting a wish but with a curse attached alongside it. Couldn't someone also ask her for the boon of being granted Radiancy (is that the word?). Has anyone in Roshar's history? Could she grant other spren bonds, lower spren or spren of the other Orders? And assuming she is a Radiant spren, could someone ask to bond with her? Could it be how she herself is supposed to be bonded? Could the next Bondsmith have to trek to the Valley and ask for the boon of bonding her? What could be the Curse to accompany such a Boon? Would they need to speak the Ideals or would the Curse, sort of, supplant the words?

Sorry @Wander89 and @Aragorn, it didn't occur to me to mention or quote you in my responses so that you get pinged when I replied, I am still new here. I also noticed you taking the time to respond to other introduction threads, that's very kind of you

Ironically, I got Skybreaker

@AonEne got it: https://www.playbuzz.com/item/2d32daff-6349-416b-90b0-937f8ae8101f

Wait, have you done the quiz? Is that the Order you got?

Just a comparison to the Ideals of Skyrunners, nothing more. I would say that this forum is much less prone to toxicity compared to many other forums, if I gave offence I do apologize. This IS after all a forum for discussing Sanderson's works not our morality. Have a good day and lets agree to disagree.

Given the enormity of what was done to him, and the fact that he was sentenced to death by Elhokar simply for doing something that insulted his position (how dare that darkeyes!) without even any consideration at all for an actual legal process because their law grants that kind of power to the king and lighteyes nobility. It being legal was kind of THE problem here. The law is at fault here. Don't go and join Nale here! Yes, Kaladin got mad & passionate, made a public claim against a lighteyes, Elhokar got mad, sentenced him to death. I totally should be equally mad at both of them here. So you're saying more evidence for his ineptness? Gr8! Shallan noted his drawings & plans of Kholinar were really well done. Navani notes that he has a knack for planning the arrangement of a party area. I am saying that Elhokar's assassination by Moash did make sense from Moash's PoV and didn't make me lose any sympathy towards his character.

If I got what you're trying to say with the "most Rosharans..." comment right, yeah, that is true. Elhokar is a product of his society. Yes, he has a more general disregard for darkeyes rather than any particular gangsta-style racism, still that kind of behavior doesn't look good on a person, much less a ruler. "Besides, it was the law"??? the hell...? I'm not touching that sentence. Yes, it was the wrong time to choose for Kaladin but he definitely didn't deserve even the jail time for that! Specially considering the things Amaram did. I didn't count how often (or otherwise) he was drunk. He didn't have many appearances though, and those seemed pretty defining moments for his character. Elhokar was always a centre of the party but not the politics, he didn't partake in any decision-making, a point acknowledged by Dalinar & Navani. Being a King overshadows being a budding architect though, and he seemed quite dismal at that role. Killing, in general, is wrong. It making sense from Moash's context should be the point of argument here. Yes, Elhokar for all his failings did try to make things right at the end, possibly even at the start but with much less inspiration. It was far to soon for me to warm up towards that character, however.

Well, never liked Elhokar since his introduction: inept, self-important, lazy, rash, arrogant, classist?/racist? (not sure what's the better fit for the lighteye/darkeye dynamic), drunk. He almost ordered Kaladin's execution over Amaram. Moash, and all his anger and hatred, did make sense. He struck me as more of a tragic figure who lost his way. Looking forward to a redemption arc. So, Moash's murder of Elhokar didn't really make me angry... the fact that Elhokar might've completed the Words, however, kinda blew my fuse.

Slightly different than most people, i assume... I really liked reading Alendi's journals, also got attached to Preservation (Leras). I would love a classical era Scadrial novel

Never liked Elhokar Moash did nothing wrong

Yeah, I've read all of the published Cosmere novels & short stories, my favourite's Emperor's Soul & Sixth of the Dusk

Hello guys, fellow Sanderson fan here, been reading the posts here for a long while, finally decided to join in. Hope you all don't mind if i point out a few cool things i noticed that haven't been pointed out (i think) Narak - the city in the Shattered Plains, is the name of the Hindu equivalent for Hell On a similar note, Kaladin's name can be taken to mean 'Black Day' in Hindi Renarin is kinda growing on me, looking forward to his Truthwatcher vows & powers. I thought that the future sight could make sense with the two Truthwatcher Surges if seen as 'Illumination *of* Progression', don't know what to think with the Book 3 reveals