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Everything has a mind because that's the result of investiture and its desire for sapience. There was a short WoB specifically about it, but I can't find it. Spren are purposeful Splinters made by Shards. Without human perception shaping them, Shardic perception would shape them, or they would shape themself, or take the form of some fundamental forces of Cosmere, as they are a piece of those forces. They would still exist, just be a bit more alien. The shape of a spren is more susceptible to perception, but what they are, what they represent is in SR, there is a spiritual ideal that spren represent.

Oh right, I knew there was a mention of some kind of training of Lifeless, but I couldn't find it. But that's weird. They're dead, their muscles shouldn't grow. But they can heal to a certain degree so maybe they aren't that dead as it looks like? Just like they are more aware than others think. ch 33: I still think there would be a certain level of how much you can train then and make them exercise, which makes already trained and fit bodies more beneficial and economical. Plus they can just go do their duty immediately after Awakening, unlike the body of a potter. If they can heal only in a limited way, the same would apply to exercising and training. That's my guess.

Well, Thaidakar has an "avatar" on Roshar, if he wants, they can talk. But Thaidakar partially achieved what he wanted. But yes, Ishar would probably be able to fully solve Thaidakar's problem. It might be possible, it depends how much they are invested, and how much are they comparable to spren. If they are like spren, then they can't leave. Honorblades are self-aware so they might be closer to spren, but who knows. BAM is already nicely packed in a gemstone, left alone somewhere on Roshar, while Ishar's honorblade is in hands of crazy Ishar leading the entire nation of Tukar - I would prefer to get a present rather than fight with unbound Bondsmith and his army of fanatics. No. He can't:

No, while they can learn how to fight, they are dead, their body can't grow, so their muscles can't grow as well and become stronger and faster even if trained.

The WoB doesn't say that their instincts aren't altered, just that they carry them in them. Kandra doesn't really feel any urge to hide in caves during the day like mistwraith do, nor to collect all bodies and bones they find, so some instincts are clearly changed.

Good point, but I doubt two Shards would need a Dawnshard to create a planet with life and humans.

Ehh, does it matter? Probably yes, there are Koloss attracted to humans. Koloss-blooded are also born when both parents are Koloss. So every time a Koloss has a child, it's a Koloss-blooded.

Adaptive Hemalurgy - place your 3 spikes in non vital binding points and exchange them for different powers depending on your needs and situation you're facing. Just have a stockpile of spikes and be smart when choosing which one would be useful on that day.

Not exactly - we know he held a Dawnshard, most likely before the Shattering (maybe during too), and we know that different Dawnshards have different effects, but one is special - we don't know if this one special is Hoid's Dawnshard or not. I don't think we know for sure if actively being a Dawnshard also prevents you from causing harm, or this is just some after effect of holding it. I personally also believe that Frost was present during the Shattering but I don't think he was a Dawnshard - Hoid said that Frost recently gained another source of immortality, on top of his natural dragon immortality. If he was a Dawnshard back then, he would have a second source of immortality and wouldn't "need" a third one. Yes, I believe some of the 16 Vessels were Dawnshards during the Shattering. That's the most logical solution. I think either Honor or Cultivation were a Dawnshard, because there was a Dawnshard present on Ashyn. Odium is also a likely candidate, he might use it to Splinter Shards or give it to Ashynite for experimentations, but I doubt he would give it away instead of instantly using it to Splinter Honor and Cultivation. Also Rayse was known to be not a nice person, so I doubt others would allow him to become a Dawnshard and have it as Odium. There was a theory suggesting that there are/were 2 Dawnshards on Roshar, one used on Ashyn causing the destruction, the other was something else and is somewhere else (the vision Dalinar saw at the end of WoR looks like what Rysn experienced when she became a Dawnshard, and Honor said Dawnshards - plural). I think that's likely to be true, in this case both Honor and Cultivation were Dawnshards, and Cultivation left hers on Ashyn - she once visited Ashyn and invested in it. So in my opinion both Honor and Cultivation were Dawnshards, Hoid as well, but Frost not, that leaves one more Dawnshards in the hands of 16. It's hard to speculate where it could be, as we don't know about another world, or place, where any Dawnshard was mentioned, nor do we know about massive events like the one on Ashyn. I doubt it's on Scadrial, so Ruin and Preservation are out, not on Sel because Aona and Skai would use it to defend themself, not Ambition for the same reason, and not Odium because he's too selfish to just give it away. That still leaves 8 different Vessels/Shards who could have the last Dawnshard. It wasn’t mentioned anywhere, no great, impossible events happened anywhere or anything like this. This will remain a mystery for now. For a moment I was thinking if the Well of Ascension on Scadrial could hold a Dawnshard, on top of Preservation's investiture, because of how powerful it was and it certainly fits to effects of a Dawnshard we saw on Ashyn, but I don't think that was the case. Every description and WoBs about the Well do not indicate something else going on then just massive amounts of Preservation's investiture and temporary Ascension - and holding a significant fraction of Shard's power would allow you to do what we know was done to Scadrial. Another thing is that Ascendants weren't immortal after it - Rashek had to use compounding to stop his aging, he wouldn't need it if he held a Dawnshard in the Well. And if Preservation had access to a Dawnshard, why not use it in a more spectacular way against Ruin (Splintering is out of the question because of his nature but I'm sure he could do more than what he did)? Therefore I have to conclude that this one extraordinary show of power in Cosmere is not a result of any Dawnshard, but just a massive amount of investiture and temporary Ascension to Preservation, which all WoBs and information from books support.

Adding to what @Treamayne said, an important factor to consider is if Returned is suppressing their Divine Breath like Vasher or Denth did. If they are, then they need to go from 0 to 3500 Breaths, but if they don't suppress it, then they already have 2000 Breath-worth of investiture in them, so they need only 1500 more.

Yeah, I forgot who Sharezan is Not a problem for me, I'm just informing. I would probably edit the name out of the poll, just to make it safe for others.

I think this poll contains spoilers (just a name) from Yumi that is still under the spoiler policy and shouldn't be discussed outside of the Spoiler Zone. For me it's Taravangian. He's the master manipulator who has great philosophical and moral conflict with protagonists, that adds so much more to his antagonistic side. And now as Odium he is more dangerous than ever. Edit: @Forts Board and why call Autonomy and not Bavadin like you called Ati and Rayse?

You can: But you would possibly need some type of conversion, to key the Dor to the specific attribute, just like in compounding the power of Preservation is keyed to attribute via burning a metalmind. But on the other hand you can just use Dor to fuel whatever Allomancy you want, without any need for keying or burning metal. The intent alone shapes the raw power into the specific Allomantic effect so likely the same can happen with Feruchemy - but rather than filling a metalmind, your body would be a metalmind, the Dor would be in your body and you would "tap" the attribute from your body, without any need for a metalmind.

Unlikely - it was said it's on the level of Bands or Rashek's power.

What charge do you want to put in those spikes for insects? Is this spike a new made small spike or a large spike melted down and reforged into hundreds of smaller ones? Make a spike out of humans and you will make terrible monsters if not outright kill that insect. Make a spike out of insects and the amount of charge stolen is basically minimal. Put that spike in an insect body, and the body and its soul is so little invested, that it would provide no resistance to the Steelpush. So yes, they will see it for sure, and I'm pretty sure there was at least one moment whan Wax pushed a metalmind, so pushing a tiny spike with a tiny charge in a tiny bug would be almost like pushing a normal piece of metal. And a slipper. Are there raccoons in the Elendel Basin? I think there are lions and giraffes in the Roughs so the location is closer to Europe than to North America. And I doubt there are raccoons running around the Elendel city - choose dogs, or cats, or birds, or rats, or something like that. That probably would wreck your brain - did you see zoomed fly eyes? They have thousands of lenses. Bee has 5 eyes. Not to mention insects have a much stronger sense of taste, smell or touch than we humans have - they have different primary senses than we humans do and that would just confuse our brain. I would call it animal abuse, but yes, sure. But you won't get a "buddy" you will have an arch nemesis - that intelligent animal would now hate you forever for what you did to its body and how you enslave it - it will plan and use any opportunity to kill you. Edit: Oh my, I'm a Mistborn now! Where did I leave my vial with metal flakes?

While the perception might matter with A-pewter, as in every form of healing, I also highly doubt it can heal spiritual damage, as you need a certain amount of investiture to make a patch on your soul - A-pewter simply cannot provide that. Not with Lerasium, not with the Bands, not with Rashek's power. I've once compared how A-pewter healed VIn and Eland in TFE and WoA respectively - they were both lethally wounded in the same general area, they both took 2 weeks to wake up from the coma and further months to fully recover, and that was while also getting professional medical care of a Keeper (not mentioned in Eland's case but let's be real, Sazed would not abandon his friend with a deadly wound in his guts, not to mention all medical care he would get from regular doctors as the Emperor ). To add more, Eland was the stronger Mistborn than Vin, getting few times more investiture per metal than her, but still there was almost no difference in the healing speed. Yes, with the proper mindset you might be able to fully recover without scars, but you would need to be especially gifted (or just crazy) to keep that mindset through all those months of suffering. That's a bit impractical. If you want to alter your appearance with A-pewter you would need mind-boggling amounts of it to be constantly burned by you - possible in theory, in practice not really. Just get a spike with F-gold.

You're making me blush... Every Coinshot, Lurcher, Mistborn and insectophob would know. Too little charge and too many legs to not be detectable by them. Or a rodent? Just one! You don't need to be the Pied Piper. With a horde of rodents just order them to eat your opponent. I would because there are no raccoons in Poland Here we have families of boars just strolling around towns (they even use pedestrian crossings). No, you need intent. Such animals would not be able to understand what Hemalurgy is, what it does and how to use it. They can't provide intent, not to mention precision. I like squirrels more, they're cute - too cute for spikes. Warbreaker spoilers: Going back to bugs, they don't have much brain and intelligence to begin with. The simplest commands might be too much for them, if they even would be able to understand them.

Just one question - why? Why insects from everything that exists? Really? Spike bee to keep track of them? REALLY? WHY? I think insects have to tiny and fragile spiritweb to survive any Hemalurgic spiking.

The spiritweb is a combination of lots of Connections, Identity and raw Investiture, spikes steal a part of it, so yes, you should be able to read it like in TotES. A Bondsmith probably would be able to read it. Find a way to read Connections and you would have a way to read spikes.

No, I don't think so, because the question is about another character that would replace Moash in this position. I don't think Moash after redemption would be able to just go back and be a valid criticism to the nobility - you can't go around killing people and then just tell them it was all their fault, and that is how Moash would be perceived. It seems like Brandon is planning to introduce such character in the second half of SA, Lift is considered as such (she is a main character of 6th book), but he probably just didn't go into details yet, or maybe there is a character that will appear in KoWT that will serve this role, or known characters will be able to get into that position through events in KoWT, like Lirin or Helsina. There are too many different possibilities.

Truthfully, Kel was Preservation, he is a Sliver, so technically he is one of the most qualified people on this matter. Preservation actually is one of the best when it comes to predicting the future. He saw a lot of what was going to happen and created Terris prophecies to help people do what needed to be done. That doesn't mean that Harmony is as good at that. Ruin on the other hand was not so good at that. Keep in mind, in TLM Harmony's future sight was blinded by Autonomy. TLM ch 19: We know from Ars Arcanum that Ruin is subservient to Preservation in Harmony. That might mean that Preservation is stronger OR that Sazed choses to Preserve more than to Ruin, which causes Ruin to be subservient no matter who is stronger. But if Preservation is now stronger than Ruin then why? How? It was the opposite before so why now Preservation, who invested in people more than Ruin, is stronger than Ruin? Where did the extra Ruin investiture go? That doesn't really make sense to me. Also remember, Atium cycle was delayed - Kelsier destroying the Pits of Hathsin stopped the cycle of Atium for 300 years, 300 had passed, now this investiture of Ruin is freed, but instead of returning to make more Atium (we know from SoS it doesn't do that, the Pits are empty) it would most likely return to Harmony, causing imbalance in favor of Ruin. This investiture really has no other place to go. But for Preservation to be stronger than Ruin, Harmony would need to get rid of twice as much investiture as it was locked in Atium. We don’t see anything like that. Swords are of Ruin, not Preservation. SoS ch 21: I like to call the other one a Shield - Wayne was Harmony's Shield, while Wax was his Sword. Wayne wasn't killing, while Wax was. Yes, that's possible but even investing people to the amount of Elantrians or CS would be too little. What's better is to create an Avatar invested only by the stronger part of him. That might be a much better way out. Mistborn have more Preservation in them than normal people and yet they don't stagnate. They kill a lot tbf. Of course Harmony can invest them directly in a way that would not grant them Metallic Arts. Or he could make Splinters, like Spren. Overall this is a good solution. Kel wasn't well educated, him being a Shard for a short moment granted him a knowledge of a Shard and its power, just like TLR before him. He was certainly eager to learn as much as possible in SH - I think by TLM he is very well educated and knows much more than he should have. Slight change to their personality at best. People are people all around Cosmere no matter who invested in them. They wouldn't get any specific powers as those things come from elsewhere. Ruin's invested art if Hemalurgy, at best they would be intuitively better at it than others. I'm quite sure there was a WoB about CS not getting influenced at all or mostly by intent of Shard's investiture, but I can't find it. The same would apply to living people.

That looks cool,! Finally dark mode is coming!

For me it's reaching a conclusion based on a very limited amount of data - and reading Wax's thoughts again, it somewhat fits. I'm going in circles with that and I've started to mislead because I don't know how else to say it. No. You perceive the world around you faster and that means that you are consciously aware and can consciously analyze your surroundings in relation to your movement speed and make conscious choices based on that as well. But you won't be able to literally calculate a trajectory of a thrown object and predict its purpose like Sazed in WoA or like Wax think about dozens of different scenarios as this kind of "thinking" isn't sped up. Missred on my part. I was thinking about your original statement of "Sazed must explicitly tap F-Zinc to perceive the world in slow motion". So was he also tapping speed continuously, and then while tapping it he tapped it again because Brandon didn't write that he stopped tapping? Was he tapping zinc this entire time and then tapped it again just to make sure? How is it that other rings only allowed him for two short bursts of power while zinc on the level of doing complicated predictions was tapped no problem the entire time? No, that doesn't make sense. He stopped tapping zinc either at the moment he figured out what Marsh might do with the lamp before tapping steel or after he grabbed it after tapping steel. He didn’t tap it continuously as tapping it again makes no sense. He used it only for this one moment to think about this lamp and what Marsh will do with it. But he didn't because it doesn't make sense to tap zinc again while he is already tapping zinc. The same was with iron and steel - Brandon wrote "he tapped" without writing later "he stopped tapping" but this clearly applied only to this one or two moves he did, not the entire fight scene. I don't think we will reach any consensus here. I'm starting to make mistakes and can't write what I have on my mind. For me WoBs have the answer - F-steel has some temporal effects, it is like a bullet time (and a bullet time is precisely what I'm trying to describe) and that's the overlap it has with F-zinc. We know Feruchemy gives you sometimes some effects that allow you to actually use the magic, that's why your body can hold your increased weight, and similarly that's why running without actually being able to know what's happening around doesn't make any sense. For me it make sense that F-steel gives you a bit of what F-zinc can give you, not all, not even most, but just enough so you can be aware of your surroundings and make conscious decisions based on that - with lower speeds this is a minimal effect, on higher speeds this makes difference and allows you to run with Mach 1. For me what Bleeder did was a perfect example of how F-steel works. I can't say it any differently, you need to ask Brandon to clarify what's the difference between F-steel and F-zinc.

Preservation gave away part of his power to create humans. (Or more exactly, both Shards gave some power but Preservation gave more.) That power is "stuck" permanently in humans, which created an imbalance in Ruin's favour. The dispersion of most of Ruin's power in Era 1 (by Elend, but also a bit Kelsier) overcompensated, and so Preservation regained an upper hand, and was dominant in Harmony for 300 years. But now, as Ruin's power comes back, it switches the balance back to the other side. In short, Harmony used to have more Preservation than Ruin in it. It is just no longer the case. As of the end of Era 2, Sazed (the Vessel, who hasn't been changed enough yet to the Intent near-caricatured like Tanavast, Leras, or Ati) is still resisting this change, but at the same time realizing the shortcomings of his plan (the whole "I made your life too easy in the Basin vs the South" thing); this reckoning could have been accelerated by ruinous influence. [...] And it also means that Harmony is already Discord, and has been since day 1. Sazed just does not realizes (yet). We know from the Odium/Passion thing that the name a Shard gives itself can not match the Intent: Interesting. The way you said it makes it sounds like Harmony was never Harmony, he was always Discord, but first Preservation-Discord, and how he's turning into Ruin-Discord. Unlikely, at least at the very beginning Sazed was true Harmony because he chose the name that felt right to him. But later he might have slowly turned into Discord without realizing it. So it's a mix of both possibilities I've proposed, interesting. Yes, I agree. Discord might not be stopped by inability to act, as by definition he doesn't have to be in balance - Discord might be able to directly act on Scadrial and maybe even side with Kelsier and drive Scadrian technological progress forward much faster - thus "they shall love him for it". But I expect Sazed to do this by the end of Era 3, as that leaves the whole Era to explore the idea of conflict within Sazed refusing to embrace Discord before settling and accepting the change.

Yes, but it probably has to be unkeyed (or you need to be both a Feruchemist and a Surgebinder).