Lord Gregorio Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 No. It can't be a cult. I refuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quivil Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Y'know, at Girl's Camp last year and the year before, we all stood in a circle holding candles and singing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittles Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tani said: Y'know, at Girl's Camp last year and the year before, we all stood in a circle holding candles and singing... two of my friends who went to girl's camp told me stories of something very similar they did... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said: So the church is a cult? We did it boys. 15 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: It’s not one though. Not to burst the joke or anything, but it’s not. [...] While a technical definition is "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object", the connotation it is always used in is "a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister". So, yeah, definitely doesn't fit any major religions. And most small ones. [...] There’s a difference between club group things and actual cults, and there’s a difference between cults and actual religions. I’d just be careful throwing around that term in places where it might be taken seriously, because there’s enough misinformation as it is. Ok this time it is to burst the joke. I, personally, would like it if the church wasn't called something it's not. Even as a joke. There are better subjects for jokes. Thanks! :D. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidakar the Ghostblood Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: Ok this time it is to burst the joke. I, personally, would like it if the church wasn't called something it's not. Even as a joke. There are better subjects for jokes. Thanks! :D. I agree. While I find it funny and acceptable to say in a group of people who know it is a joke, we shouldn't just say that around a lot. And, yes, there are better jokes to be had. This brings to mind a conversation I had with someone online who threw out once "Christianity is a cult." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbondsmith Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Hi, I had a question. One of my coworkers is Mormon and going on a church based teaching volunteer 'mission' (sorry, I'm not sure what to properly call it). From what I understand it involves going across the country for 18 months and apparently it is unpaid. Is going for that long on a volunteer basis... normal? Maybe it's because we know each other through our income stream but it feels weird to say the least. For reference I am completely non-religious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason Wheeler Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, jamesbondsmith said: Hi, I had a question. One of my coworkers is Mormon and going on a church based teaching volunteer 'mission' (sorry, I'm not sure what to properly call it). Yeah, we call it a mission. If you say your coworker is "going on a mission" or "on his/her mission" that sounds completely normal to us. Quote From what I understand it involves going across the country for 18 months and apparently it is unpaid. Is going for that long on a volunteer basis... normal? Maybe it's because we know each other through our income stream but it feels weird to say the least. Yes. And that means that your friend is most likely a girl in her late teens. This is not a hard-and-fast rule so much as a cultural norm in the church, but it's expected that every young man soon after graduating high school will serve a mission for two years. For young women, the typical service period is 18 months, and the expectation for all of them to serve is not there, but many young women do choose to. And yeah, the idea of "putting your life on hold" for that long, right when you're "supposed to" be going to college and preparing for a career and all sorts of Very Important Things like that, and not even getting paid for it, does feel kind of weird from an outsider's perspective. But the idea that missionary work is an important duty derives from the revelations that our church is founded on. Quote 77 And I give unto you a commandment that you shall teach one another the doctrine of the kingdom. 78 Teach ye diligently and my grace shall attend you, that you may be instructed more perfectly in theory, in principle, in doctrine, in the law of the gospel, in all things that pertain unto the kingdom of God, that are expedient for you to understand; 79 Of things both in heaven and in the earth, and under the earth; things which have been, things which are, things which must shortly come to pass; things which are at home, things which are abroad; the wars and the perplexities of the nations, and the judgments which are on the land; and a knowledge also of countries and of kingdoms— 80 That ye may be prepared in all things when I shall send you again to magnify the calling whereunto I have called you, and the mission with which I have commissioned you. 81 Behold, I sent you out to testify and warn the people, and it becometh every man who hath been warned to warn his neighbor. -- Doctrine and Covenants, section 88 The Lord calls it an act of warning here, and that puts it in perspective. If you saw someone out on foot, on a cold, snowy highway at nighttime, frantically waving and trying to flag down the passing cars, you'd probably think they were being weird too. Maybe there's something wrong with them? That's definitely not what normal people do! But if you actually stop and listen to them and find out that they're trying to tell you the bridge up ahead is out, suddenly your feelings on the subject change radically! You might even feel inclined to join him in trying to warn other people. That's how members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints view missionary work. Our message is that important. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gregorio Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mason Wheeler said: Yeah, we call it a mission. If you say your coworker is "going on a mission" or "on his/her mission" that sounds completely normal to us. Yes. And that means that your friend is most likely a girl in her late teens. This is not a hard-and-fast rule so much as a cultural norm in the church, but it's expected that every young man soon after graduating high school will serve a mission for two years. For young women, the typical service period is 18 months, and the expectation for all of them to serve is not there, but many young women do choose to. And yeah, the idea of "putting your life on hold" for that long, right when you're "supposed to" be going to college and preparing for a career and all sorts of Very Important Things like that, and not even getting paid for it, does feel kind of weird from an outsider's perspective. But the idea that missionary work is an important duty derives from the revelations that our church is founded on. The Lord calls it an act of warning here, and that puts it in perspective. If you saw someone out on foot, on a cold, snowy highway at nighttime, frantically waving and trying to flag down the passing cars, you'd probably think they were being weird too. Maybe there's something wrong with them? That's definitely not what normal people do! But if you actually stop and listen to them and find out that they're trying to tell you the bridge up ahead is out, suddenly your feelings on the subject change radically! You might even feel inclined to join him in trying to warn other people. That's how members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints view missionary work. Our message is that important. That's an awesome summary. I agree and second this statement. Edited January 28, 2023 by Gregorio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AonDoor Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 0:16 PM, Tani said: Y'know, at Girl's Camp last year and the year before, we all stood in a circle holding candles and singing... I hope people don't base their opinions of the church on girls' camp. From what I've heard, girls' camp is weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteInsanity Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, AonDoor said: I hope people don't base their opinions of the church on girls' camp. From what I've heard, girls' camp is weird. Excuse me? Girls' camp is the best thing ever. It's not weird! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, InfiniteInsanity said: Excuse me? Girls' camp is the best thing ever. It's not weird! I've heard somewhat weird things about it on occasion but I know many people who've had a wonderful time including my sisters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That1Cellist Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Shining Silhouette said: I've heard somewhat weird things about it on occasion but I know many people who've had a wonderful time including my sisters My sister came back with a goose egg one time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittles Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, That1Cellist said: My sister came back with a goose egg one time. As you do 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteInsanity Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, That1Cellist said: My sister came back with a goose egg one time. That makes sense. Lots of chaos happens. My mind says that I've almost died every year but really I'm being overdramatic about at least one of those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gregorio Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Girl's camp never seemed as fun as what scouts would do. Maybe that's just my ward or maybe that's just cause I'm a boy, idk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason Wheeler Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gregorio said: Girl's camp never seemed as fun as what scouts would do. Maybe that's just my ward or maybe that's just cause I'm a boy, idk. And yet somehow every Scout wishes he could go to girl's camp... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gregorio Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Mason Wheeler said: And yet somehow every Scout wishes he could go to girl's camp... Uuuuh. I never did. I think younger scouts don't want to. Maybe some of the older ones. I understand where you were going with that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajsa Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, InfiniteInsanity said: Excuse me? Girls' camp is the best thing ever. It's not weird! Girls' camp was one of my fave things about the church! I'll miss it :) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo74 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kajsa said: Girls' camp was one of my fave things about the church! I'll miss it amen girls camp is ✨ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteInsanity Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Kajsa said: Girls' camp was one of my fave things about the church! I'll miss it 3 hours ago, echo74 said: amen girls camp is ✨ Something amazing always happens, as well as something chaotic and slightly scary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajsa Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, InfiniteInsanity said: Something amazing always happens, as well as something chaotic and slightly scary. I remember my last night at my first girl's camp was INSANE. I was super dehydrated and about to pass out, someone drank battery leakage, my friend started hyperventilating cuz she lost a super expensive flashlight and thought her parents would kill her for it (lol), and there were a ton of spiders and stuff in the tents, etc etc Nobody slept before 1 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteInsanity Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kajsa said: I remember my last night at my first girl's camp was INSANE. I was super dehydrated and about to pass out, someone drank battery leakage, my friend started hyperventilating cuz she lost a super expensive flashlight and thought her parents would kill her for it (lol), and there were a ton of spiders and stuff in the tents, etc etc Nobody slept before 1 lol My first year it stormed everynight and my tent flooded every night. But the last night there were tornado sirens and bad winds. A couple of tents collapsed. We all had to cing.ram into the storm shelters. I was okay once we got to the storm shelter but the rest of that night was terrifying. We didn't actually go to bed until 2 and then they woke us up at 7. Second didn't exist cause Covid. Third year I got heat exhaustion every day now matter how much water I drank. And it stormed while we were out there and we couldn't actually camp. Fourth year we didn't actually camp either. We pretty much did like FSY but girls' camp. We combined with a couple of other stakes. Sister Cordon came and spoke to us. But the terrifying part for me was my dorm room. I am terrified of heights and my room was on the 10th floor. When I got there I made the mistake of looking out the window and had a nic attack. This summer we'll be back to actual camping (The campground we're staying at has cabins but they have a mouse problem so....) and I will be a lead YCL. And I am terrified. A lot of my amazing experiences have come in part because of the amazing YCLs I've had and I'm scared to have follow after them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajsa Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, InfiniteInsanity said: Fourth year we didn't actually camp either. We pretty much did like FSY but girls' camp. We combined with a couple of other stakes. Sister Cordon came and spoke to us. But the terrifying part for me was my dorm room. I am terrified of heights and my room was on the 10th floor. When I got there I made the mistake of looking out the window and had a nic attack. Hey! I was there too! That was my second girl's camp lol My room was on floor 8 and we gave up on the elevators on day 2 so we ran up and down 16 flights of stairs at least 3 times a day xD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteInsanity Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Kajsa said: Hey! I was there too! That was my second girl's camp lol My room was on floor 8 and we gave up on the elevators on day 2 so we ran up and down 16 flights of stairs at least 3 times a day xD Oh! Did you know about the ghost and the elevators? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajsa Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, InfiniteInsanity said: Oh! Did you know about the ghost and the elevators? Ghost? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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