TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Seonid said: A dead players vials area revived from the game. Spikes go to the player who killed them, or randomly distributed among the players that voted for them (if they are a lynch victim) You mean removed from the game? >> And, that's very interesting. Makes me even more wary of Elenion, tbh, since he seemed to know about that even though it's not really stated anywhere in the rules(that I noticed). Seems more like something an eliminator would know than a villager.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 @TheMightyLopen of course you wouldn't, cuz you know I'm so smart and observant all the time.....even at whatever time in the night/morning that was lol I'm actually really flattered by your suspicion haha! Oh wow! I didn't realize that the spikes would move on to a person's killer! That does make me worried about Cluny! and I wonder if the people voting on him know that they might get his spike if he's lynched? Cluny will probably be targeted by the elims than, right?? anybody else seeing this? I've re-read this cycles thread and from the votes already out there I think I'm the most suspicious of dalinar now. I feel like he's coasting a little, and his vote on stick seemed a little unfounded to me? Why does asking people to post more make you look suspicious? Doesn't that help everyone? I was suspicious of her too, and I'm not completely positive she village ...I'm just leaning more that way since she just publicly role claimed in thread, but this reason for voting on her seems weird to me? All of the more experienced players seem to prod people to post like every game so I don't see why it's bad in this situation? Ninja'd by Lopen (I know right?! Spikes will move on! Weird )
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I guess I'll solidify the lynch on Dalinar. Stick.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I feel like it's a little rude to kill somebody that doesn't have computer access to respond to accusations, which Dalinar said was his situation. 1
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) This cycle is now closed! Please do not post or send PMs until the next cycle is put up (it should be ready shortly). Edited June 5, 2017 by Drake Marshall
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Night 2: Going Gentle into that Good Night The sun touched the horizon, staining the ash-choked sky a murky orange. The House Conrad barracks were crowded with off-duty guards, grimly waiting. They knew someone among them would probably die that night, if the pattern continued. Worse, they knew that someone among them would be the killer. Tension hung heavily in the air, pressing down on them as a physical presence, smothering and snuffing out idle conversation, feeding on paranoia. Barry was the first to speak up. "Right, someone needs to bring up the possibility of traitors. That Cluny fellow is acting awful quiet. I'd bet he's hiding something. And I'll tell Lord Conrad so, too!" Valbar spoke next, "and why the hell do we have a stick in our guard force? Whose idea was that? Probably the Ventures' idea of a joke..." Nearly everyone in the barracks had an accusation to make, and soon arguments flew around the room. ------------------------------------------ Sorren watched the crowd, and snorted. Those younglings had no idea what they were doing. Inexperienced. Still, they looked out for blood. He touched his vials of pewter reassuringly. With metals scarce, he wasn't burning any yet, but he was glad to know that he could. If the younglings for some reason decided to turn on him. It was getting late. Sorren yawned, his disinterest evident. "What do you think about the Ventures, old man?" one of the crowd asked. "Go away," Sorren grumbled, "I'd like to get to sleep and you all keep shouting." "And what's wrong with shouting?!" one of them shouted. "Don't you want to find the spies??!" "You know, I'd rather get some sleep right now." "Maybe he's saying that because he is the spy!!!" Sorren rolled his eyes. The crowd suddenly surged forward to grab him by the arms. The guards might have torn him apart on the spot, except the captains shouted over everyone else, demanding Sorren be brought before Lord Conrad. Sorren sighed in relief. Maybe he wouldn't need his pewter after all. Conrad wasn't quite as young as this lot; maybe he would see reason. Sorren would come quietly. --- Lord Conrad stepped outside, removing a pair of spectacles and folding away a report. He inspected the assembled guardsmen with irritation. "What's the matter here?" he asked, glancing at Sorren, who was restrained by two captains. "He's the traitor! He's been acting suspicious!!" a guard shouted. "Very well. I trust your reports," Conrad replied. Sorren looked at Conrad, incredulous. He supposed Conrad was still younger then himself, and he was showing it. Sorren spoke up. "Now listen here, you young whippersnapper!!!" At this, Conrad's eyes widened in fury. "That's not how guarding works!!! Lord Ruler man, you don't just guess that so-and-so seems suspicious and then off them! We're guards. We keep watch and prevent Ventures from murderin' everyone in the first place!" Silence followed. Then, it was shattered as another voice in the crowd yelled, "That's just what a spy would say!" "Shall we detain him, Lord Conrad?" Gern, the chief guardsman asked. A dark look passed Conrad's face. "No... No, kill him." Conrad turned around and walked back inside. Sorren watched Conrad leave in surprise. He reached for his pewter. It was time to teach these younglings a lesson or two about respect. Then, suddenly, he felt a splitting pain in the back of his neck as Gern's sword hit him. The last thing that passed through Sorren's mind before his head hit the ground was "I shouldn't have come quietly..." Then oblivion. Night fell. --- That night, the guardsmen searched Sorren's belongings to find evidence of treachery, but could not find anything. They decided against reporting the findings of their unofficial investigation to Lord Conrad. Night 2 has begun! It will end at 10:30 PM, Mountain Daylight Time, June 5th. Sorren Karidor (Dalinar Kholin) was lynched! They were a Village Thug! The following metals are available for ordering: Allomantic Brass, Allomantic Copper Sorry about this writeup taking a while... I plead inexperience Vote Count: _Stick_ (1): Dalinar Kholin OrlokTsubodai (1): StrikerEZ TheMightyLopen (1): Elenion BrightnessRadiant (1): Araris Valerian Cluny The Scourge (2): Ecthelion III, Sart Dalinar Kholin (4): Hemalurgic Headshot, _Stick_, Jondesu, TheMightyLopen, BrightnessRadiant Player List: Marv (Hemalurgic_Headshot) Barry Allen (The Flash) Jeff (Manukos) - short for Jeffonimo Lance (Ecthelion III) - The Second Nameless Booken (Paranoid King) - a victim of the "common word + en" method of naming Village Seeker Garshin (Yitzi2) Ribis (cloudjumper) - the bored second son of a noble from the Remote Dominance Stick McStick (_Stick_) Remart (Jondesu) Beet Asper (Ornstein) - an old timer who knows his stuff Metallurgist Locke Tekiel (OrlokTsubodai) - a scion of a well - respected noble house Absolen (StrikerEZ) - a skaa worker in the Conrad fields Jay (DroughtBringer) - a blind young man attempting to keep his blindness a secret Boris (Elenion) - a guard known for laziness and general apathy Hadrian Penrod (Araris Valerian) - hoping to ascend to Ruin Mehir (Metacognition) - a mute and paranoid guard Cluny (Cluny the Scourge) - a man who believes he is a rat with a spearhead on his tail Valbar (TheMightyLopen) - who always gets ignored despite his large stature Mila (BrightnessRadiant) - a girl from the country Sorren Karidor (Dalinar Kholin) - an old guard who's been here longer than any of you whippersnappers Village Thug Argyle (Sart) - a very clumsy man 6
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Well that's disappointing. I'm not sure what to take from that. :/ I'm still mildly suspicious of Brightness and Elenion. Probably Elenion more than Brightness at this point, considering the thing about elims getting spikes off of their victims, and his strange reasoning for voting on me.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Hmmm I wonder why he didn't burn pewter if he was a thug? I guess he never got back on after he was voted on? Well that stinks. this is why lynches at the beginning of a game always make me sad...we always seem to lose a lot of villagers. Hey @TheMightyLopen I went searching in the sign up thread for rule clarifications about spikes and look what I found: Quote Ooh. Good question. I missed that in the rules. Spikes go to the player that killed the victim. Metals are removed from the game. This was seonid answering yitzi. So I'm guessing that's how Elenion knew about the spikes? I must have missed that before or just forgotten. That thread was a long time ago lol I won't grace your suspicious of me with a response *looks away slowly and then realizes she actually just responded* (aw man lol)
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) I am not even going to ATTEMPT analysis, I'm running on 3 hours of sleep because I stayed up doing all that homework I mentioned yesterday, and I'm barely awake. Gosh darn it. Another misting gone. And stick I want a PM. With yitzi, you, cloudjumper, or... somebody. Anyone I can trust Edited June 5, 2017 by The Flash
Yitzi2 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, TheMightyLopen said: Well that's disappointing. I'm not sure what to take from that. :/ I'm still mildly suspicious of Brightness and Elenion. Probably Elenion more than Brightness at this point, considering the thing about elims getting spikes off of their victims, and his strange reasoning for voting on me. Villagers can also get spikes off of lynch victims they voted for.
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said: Villagers can also get spikes off of lynch victims they voted for. They can??? How does that work?
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, The Flash said: They can??? How does that work? It randomly goes to one of the villagers, if the lynched player had any spikes. I'm not sure what to make of this. I feel kind of bad about Dalinar getting lynched, and just because he was kind of inactive. I'm no type sure what to make of that. I'll reread the thread in a little bit. Now...should I use my last vial to protect someone tonight, or should we start ordering vials as a group for when we discover who's truly on our side?
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: It randomly goes to one of the villagers, if the lynched player had any spikes. I'm not sure what to make of this. I feel kind of bad about Dalinar getting lynched, and just because he was kind of inactive. I'm no type sure what to make of that. I'll reread the thread in a little bit. Now...should I use my last vial to protect someone tonight, or should we start ordering vials as a group for when we discover who's truly on our side? Wait what?! Stick. Pm. Striker. Plz. And everybody please order vials if you aren't an allomancer. It will come in use later. Edited June 5, 2017 by The Flash
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Flash said: Wait what?! Stick. Pm. Striker. Plz. And everybody please order vials if you aren't an allomancer. It will come in use later. Didn't you see my role reveal yesterday? I'll admit, it didn't play out how I thought it would, but still.
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Didn't you see my role reveal yesterday? I'll admit, it didn't play out how I thought it would, but still. Edit: because I'm on mobile I can't put this after my original text because it turns it blue. Sigh. Anyway, ok I already had a village read on you Striker, but now I'm sure. Um no. This morning I was exhausted, and as mentioned before in blue I had seminary graduation last night. I didn't read the thread really Edited June 5, 2017 by The Flash
Jondesu he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Didn't you see my role reveal yesterday? I'll admit, it didn't play out how I thought it would, but still. 28 minutes ago, The Flash said: Edit: because I'm on mobile I can't put this after my original text because it turns it blue. Sigh. Anyway, ok I already had a village read on you Striker, but now I'm sure. Um no. This morning I was exhausted, and as mentioned before in blue I had seminary graduation last night. I didn't read the thread really Actually, that role reveal and the way you did it (plus the suspicion you're placing on Orlok, who I've gotten a fairly solid village read on, especially since he had no idea whether PK was Elim or not, but his reasoning for the detainment was good and he seemed genuine) makes me more suspicious of you, Striker. We have no way of knowing if you actually did protect Orlok, since someone else was attacked instead, and you could claim anything you wanted. Even if you're actually a Lurcher, that doesn't clear you, since any of the roles could be Elim or Village (except the Thief or Metallurgist, if I understand the rules correctly). You're ranked fairly highly on my suspicion list right now, and Flash, this adds to my suspicion of you a little, though not as much.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jondesu said: Actually, that role reveal and the way you did it (plus the suspicion you're placing on Orlok, who I've gotten a fairly solid village read on, especially since he had no idea whether PK was Elim or not, but his reasoning for the detainment was good and he seemed genuine) makes me more suspicious of you, Striker. We have no way of knowing if you actually did protect Orlok, since someone else was attacked instead, and you could claim anything you wanted. Even if you're actually a Lurcher, that doesn't clear you, since any of the roles could be Elim or Village (except the Thief or Metallurgist, if I understand the rules correctly). You're ranked fairly highly on my suspicion list right now, and Flash, this adds to my suspicion of you a little, though not as much. Well, I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. I'm not gonna claim inexperience, because I've already done enough of that, I'm just gonna try to explain my actions a little better. I think the biggest reason why I felt Orlok was so suspicious was because of my wasted protection on him, because I had been so certain that an elim would've attacked him in order to get rid of a captain who could possibly detain one of their own. I didn't think beyond the fact that maybe the elims would risk the captain not detaining anyone and instead just go for someone who had been inactive. While the reason for no detainment was because he was inactive, it still makes me a little suspicious that Orlok wasn't attacked, though, since reading through the thread again, I've decided to lessen my suspicion of him a little.
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, Jondesu said: Actually, that role reveal and the way you did it (plus the suspicion you're placing on Orlok, who I've gotten a fairly solid village read on, especially since he had no idea whether PK was Elim or not, but his reasoning for the detainment was good and he seemed genuine) makes me more suspicious of you, Striker. We have no way of knowing if you actually did protect Orlok, since someone else was attacked instead, and you could claim anything you wanted. Even if you're actually a Lurcher, that doesn't clear you, since any of the roles could be Elim or Village (except the Thief or Metallurgist, if I understand the rules correctly). You're ranked fairly highly on my suspicion list right now, and Flash, this adds to my suspicion of you a little, though not as much. I honestly don't know what to think anymore. My one big suspicion was of Cluny, but now... I'll have to go through the thread and do a deeper analysis. Maybe then something will stick out.
Elenion he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 And I'm off to a mission prep camp. I'll be AWOL until Thursday, with a brief window of time to post on Tuesday night. @TheMightyLopen The spikes ruling is in the general rules, and Brightness just quoted it.
Yitzi2 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Well, I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. I'm not gonna claim inexperience, because I've already done enough of that, I'm just gonna try to explain my actions a little better. I think the biggest reason why I felt Orlok was so suspicious was because of my wasted protection on him, because I had been so certain that an elim would've attacked him in order to get rid of a captain who could possibly detain one of their own. But on the other hand, they might have expected him to be protected for that reason, and therefore attacked someone else. 40 minutes ago, Jondesu said: especially since he had no idea whether PK was Elim or not, but his reasoning for the detainment was good and he seemed genuine) Did he ever even explicitly say he had no idea? Or did he just strongly imply it? And the reasoning for the detainment was good; the question is whether that was a villager detaining a suspected elim that just so happened to be when the elims forfeited their N1 kill, or the elims elim detaining a legitimately suspicious villager and forfeiting their kill in order to get us to mislynch. Edited June 5, 2017 by Yitzi2
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) I meant to do some RP a while ago, but didn't get around to it. In the darkness, Barry remembered that night. The night he had been a coward. The night House Allen had fallen. Had it truly only been a year ago? When mysterious assassins killed everyone in the household except for him. Because he had been hiding from the assassins he saw. If he had chosen to stop them rather than hide, perhaps he would be with his family. Perhaps he would not feel like a coward. And then he had found out it had been House Venture that had ordered the attack. It was part of why he had been hired. He had a grudge. The woman he had loved had died that night. His parents, his sister, even all the skaa. Dead. A massacre. They hadnt had allomancer guards to defend their House. He swore vengeance, and hopefully redemption for his cowardice. House Allen would be redeemed. And he would... not... cry. Edited June 5, 2017 by The Flash 1
Jondesu he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said: But on the other hand, they might have expected him to be protected for that reason, and therefore attacked someone else. Did he ever even explicitly say he had no idea? Or did he just strongly imply it? And the reasoning for the detainment was good; the question is whether that was a villager detaining a suspected elim that just so happened to be when the elims forfeited their N1 kill, or the elims elim detaining a legitimately suspicious villager and forfeiting their kill in order to get us to mislynch. Yeah, that's likely the reason they didn't attack Orlok, plus since he'd detained the wrong person and that person got lynched, maybe they were hoping he could accidentally get someone else lynched or block another villager. He didn't say he had no idea; there was literally no way he could have gotten any solid information. No one could have investigated PK in any way or passed that along to Orlok. He only detained him based on what PK had been saying and doing during Night 0. It could have been an Elim ploy to get a villager lynched, true. However, PK was a likely lynch target anyway, based on how suspicious people were getting during N0, so it seems like it would have been a poor decision to waste the opportunity of a first kill only to try to get someone lynched who might have been anyway. First day lynches usually hit a villager anyway unless we're super lucky (someone has run the percentages, but the odds of hitting an Elim are ridiculously low, although the info it gives us can sometimes offset that risk). I just don't see that being a likely ploy for the Elims to pull. It's possible, of course; I've seen Elims and Villagers try things that turned out to be horrible decisions, but it's unlikely. I dunno, this Elim team seems to be making weird decisions, so maybe they're all inexperienced players or ones who like unorthodox plays, but I still don't think that necessarily fingers Orlok.
Yitzi2 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jondesu said: Yeah, that's likely the reason they didn't attack Orlok, plus since he'd detained the wrong person and that person got lynched, maybe they were hoping he could accidentally get someone else lynched or block another villager. He didn't say he had no idea; there was literally no way he could have gotten any solid information. No one could have investigated PK in any way or passed that along to Orlok. He only detained him based on what PK had been saying and doing during Night 0. It could have been an Elim ploy to get a villager lynched, true. However, PK was a likely lynch target anyway, based on how suspicious people were getting during N0, so it seems like it would have been a poor decision to waste the opportunity of a first kill only to try to get someone lynched who might have been anyway. First day lynches usually hit a villager anyway unless we're super lucky (someone has run the percentages, but the odds of hitting an Elim are ridiculously low, although the info it gives us can sometimes offset that risk). I just don't see that being a likely ploy for the Elims to pull. It's possible, of course; I've seen Elims and Villagers try things that turned out to be horrible decisions, but it's unlikely. I dunno, this Elim team seems to be making weird decisions, so maybe they're all inexperienced players or ones who like unorthodox plays, but I still don't think that necessarily fingers Orlok. Yeah, that's the real question. Did they skip their kill as an unusual play to take advantage of the detainment (which suggests they were expecting the detainment, which is highly indicative of Orlok being an elim), or was it due to inexperience or a miscommunication or something along those lines? What weird decisions have they made other than skipping the first kill?
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said: Yeah, that's the real question. Did they skip their kill as an unusual play to take advantage of the detainment (which suggests they were expecting the detainment, which is highly indicative of Orlok being an elim), or was it due to inexperience or a miscommunication or something along those lines? What weird decisions have they made other than skipping the first kill? Is it normal for them to kill an inactive?
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