cloudjumper he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: @The Flash I'm kinda confused as to why you are voting on Orlok when he is the one who confirmed that you are mistborn? I'm not sure about Orlok but I do think he's a villager, but I also think you are a villager...so I'm a little unsure of why you've chosen to keep your vote on him? Orlok could be Elim or Village and still confirm that Flash is Mistborn. Flash basically forced Orlok to confirm his role by putting his trust on him. If Orlok was an Elim and denied Flash's role, then Orlok would possibly be lynched because why would Flash ask Orlok to confirm something that he doesn't believe is true? However, people might think that was also a ploy to kill Orlok by Flash, so it could really go either way depending on who is trusted more. Why would Orlok risk his life for a possible lynch on Flash? It would probably be a better play to just wait it out and avoid suspicion. Let me know if this doesn't make any sense. Honestly right now Flash is pretty much invulnerable to the lynch. The Elims will probably kill Flash tonight because he's been detained and can't burn pewter. I wouldn't be surprised if they instead chose to just kill someone else, just to let the shenanigans continue and let us waste another lynch on Flash, because we'll be forced to kill him. Either way, great play for Elims, unless we get a lead now and start killing them. Those are my unorganized thoughts for now. See you in the morning.
Ecthelion III he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Elenion said: seems to me like he's over-emphasizing that he doesn't have any non-thread contacts, which includes the elim doc. I just meant that to mean I'm village and I think he is village. But people (including/especially you) tend to jump on whomever explicitly claims to be village.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 2 hours ago, cloudjumper said: Orlok could be Elim or Village and still confirm that Flash is Mistborn. Flash basically forced Orlok to confirm his role by putting his trust on him. If Orlok was an Elim and denied Flash's role, then Orlok would possibly be lynched because why would Flash ask Orlok to confirm something that he doesn't believe is true? However, people might think that was also a ploy to kill Orlok by Flash, so it could really go either way depending on who is trusted more. Why would Orlok risk his life for a possible lynch on Flash? It would probably be a better play to just wait it out and avoid suspicion. Let me know if this doesn't make any sense. hmmmm that's true...thanks for pointing this out. I still don't really think orlok is evil, but it is possible.
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Brightness I voted ages ago and intended to change my vote. Ecthelion and Jondesu are the new biggies. But isn't that exactly what I intended this to help with revealing? I certainly shook things up a bit, and People get exposed in the action. Oh and Orlok 1
Yitzi2 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Elenion said: Problem is, Orlok struck me as village when he claimed early He said he didn't want to claim (who does?), but did because he was feeling impulsive and was afraid we were potentially going down the wrong path D1, presumably in thinking the captain was an elim and detained PK for that reason (he explained his villager reason for detaining PK). Now, was that an attempt to help the village, or an attempt to make sure the "detain and don't kill" gambit was successful? Edited June 7, 2017 by Yitzi2
Jondesu he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 1 hour ago, The Flash said: Brightness I voted ages ago and intended to change my vote. Ecthelion and Jondesu are the new biggies. But isn't that exactly what I intended this to help with revealing? I certainly shook things up a bit, and People get exposed in the action. Oh and Orlok Why, because I voted on you and didn't believe you? I follow genuine suspicions, and I don't hesitate to change my vote as new info comes out (which is what I did).
Metacognition he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 "Hey guys! I'm Mistborn!" Barry exclaimed. Mehir facepalmed so hard that the resounding "SMACK!" it made caused more than a few people to glance at him cautiously to see if he was alright. Hadn't he just said the other night that these kind of claims weren't a good thing? Granted, he hadn't exactly said as much and made some of his thoughts had gotten lost in the translation, but he thought that he had made it pretty clear. He could see why people were so distrustful of Barry's claim and thought he could be a Venture Spy. First and foremost, he claimed well before he had any actual need to. Sure, he had been detained by a Captain, but that alone wasn't enough of a reason. There was no real indication one way or the other that the act of him being detained was a malicious act or an innocent one. But no, Barry, hyped up on his own self-importance, had claimed so quickly and attributed maliciousness to the Captain in the process to vehemently, that it looked to Mehir as if he was trying to get out in front of a sticky situation rather than try to find out the truth. Barry had turned it into a witch hunt, all because he was unhappy he had been detained, rather than look at the situation clearly; something that looked a lot like a Venture plan rather than careful strategy. Then there was Barry's assured-ness that claiming Mistborn somehow absolutely cleared himself of being a Spy. Considering everything that had already happened, Mehir didn't find it outside the realm of reasoning for the Venture to have held back with their Mistborn early on and to then need to try desperately to prove themselves once they'd been detained. Besides, the only way for any role to be cleared just because of their role, would be if there were anyone that Lord Conrad had said was without suspicion (*Basically a village-only role. Just wanted to make sure that was clear*) and Mehir hadn't heard anything like that come from the top. Barry's attempt to convince people of his innocence based on only that alone was not helping convince people that he was actually innocent. The fact that he wasn't being consistent with his views didn't help either. He attacked Locke at the beginning of the day as a possible Spy, partially because Locke had revealed himself earlier in the week. But, then later on, Barry used the fact that he, himself, had revealed himself as proof that he was innocent. To Mehir, it seemed like Barry was just throwing accusations around and trying to use whatever reasoning he could to try to get someone lynched rather than maintaining any logical consistency. Speaking of how Barry had attacked Locke, Mehir had noticed a pattern to the people that Barry seemed to think were Spies. They had all, at some point, had pointed out the possibility of Barry being a Spy. This was the equivalent of, "Nuh-uh, you are!" This type of throwing the accusation back at those that accused him did very little to make Barry look innocent. It had no depth to it and was thus an easy accusation to make; something real Spies were likely to use. So yes, Mehir could see why many were hesitant, even after Locke stepped forward to verify Barry's claim (*which still isn't alignment indicative. If Flash is a Venture Mistborn, then after being caught, this exact situation that we're in here is the only real way he could save himself, IMO*). That said, he thought as he scratched at his chin, it couldn't hurt to keep Barry around and keep an eye on him. If they gave him some Pewter and kept him away from some Steel, then they'd be able to see how the Venture would react and if Barry turned out to actually be a Venture Spy, they wouldn't have given them the power to kill multiple people before the rest of the Guards found out the truth of it. Mehir also didn't think that Locke was guilty of anything except doing his job. Locke hadn't needed to step forward to verify Barry's claim after all. He could have stayed silent and claimed to have been busy with other duties, as he had before. So this meant that either Locke and Barry were in it together (an incredibly complicated plan that had them both be put on the chopping block early and then get removed from it later, while also losing all the vials for their Mistborn...) or, more likely, Locke was still as innocent as Mehir suspected he was. This actually made Mehir much more suspicious of those who were so quick to jump on Barry's witch hunt. It looked a lot like they were trying to capitalize on a situation that would let them get rid of a Captain they had no control over. Both Stick and Cluny (*Their actual character names too! lol.*) really stuck out to him. Stick especially seemed like they were likely a Spy. There was the odd logic with the first day votes and who should be suspicious from that. Mehir had pointed that out last night. Then there was Courier claim, like Mila had brought up, but no one was able to verify that claim as far as he knew. Add to that situations like the one above, and Mehir was definitely eyeing her with a weary look throughout the rest of the day. 3
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Ok maybe it's about time to explain my thought process when I role claimed. Essentially 3 thoughts went through my head 1. Oh crap the Ventures might know I'm a mistborn 2. What if Orlok is a venture and he lies about my role to the thread, and I never say anything, and I die because the Ventures spend their resources on me and I don't have any metals to protect me, and no one knows to help me because nobody knows im in danger. 3. I have no more protection, no PM from stick to confide in only one person, and the only way to preemptively prevent lies, and garner help, is to admit my role to the thread. Now I also considered waiting until orlok or another captain claimed detaining me. The issue is if I role claimed after that and they attacked me, then it would seem like I was trying to seem valuable in order to avoid being lynched. I figured my best bet, DESPITE the extra risk it would involve. Also, take into account I was panicking, it was 6 in the morning, and my my meds had not kicked in yet, so I was extra impulsive . if I were an eliminator mistborn, I would be able to talk things out on the elim doc, and have people help protect me and provide me metals. But I'm not. I had no one to talk to, nothing to funnel my panic. I wouldn't have panicked if I had been an elim. Oh and @OrlokTsubodai what would you have done if I hadn't said anything? Would you have exposed me to the thread? Edited June 7, 2017 by The Flash
Sparkrunner he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 If he is village, he would have and you probably would have been lynched. 1
Orlok Tsubodai Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 @The Flash, I detained you because I believe you to be suspicious. I would have reevaluated my suspicion before announcing your role, and would have waited to observe how you acted in the thread following having been detained.
Yitzi2 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Cluny the Scourge said: If he is village, he would have and you probably would have been lynched. Not if The Flash actually is Mistborn, which I believe he is.
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, OrlokTsubodai said: @The Flash, I detained you because I believe you to be suspicious. I would have reevaluated my suspicion before announcing your role, and would have waited to observe how you acted in the thread following having been detained. Seems reasonable enough. In hindsight, i probably shouldn't have panicked so much. Even if you were elim, staying quiet could have had benefits. I blame it on being new. 2 hours ago, Cluny the Scourge said: If he is village, he would have and you probably would have been lynched. And it is when you say things like this that I wanted to burn Steel. Even if you turn out to be village, your play style really irks me. Edited June 7, 2017 by The Flash
Yitzi2 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 2 hours ago, The Flash said: And it is when you say things like this that I wanted to burn Steel. Even if you turn out to be village, your play style really irks me. Please, the village is not in a good position, and deciding targets based on personal annoyance is not conducive to changing that situation. 1
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said: Please, the village is not in a good position, and deciding targets based on personal annoyance is not conducive to changing that situation. Well I can't really target him can I? I've decided that his play style doesn't necessarily make him elim. But it's still annoying.
Yitzi2 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 @Cluny the Scourge why do you seem so sure that The Flash is not Mistborn?
Sparkrunner he/him Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Where have I said that I do not believe he is mistborn?
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Hey anyone who hasn't done anything- I would love a metal vial. Whatever you want. However I can best be helpful. If I can survive to give the results, that is.
Jondesu he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Metacognition said: Stick especially seemed like they were likely a Spy. There was the odd logic with the first day votes and who should be suspicious from that. Mehir had pointed that out last night. Then there was Courier claim, like Mila had brought up, but no one was able to verify that claim as far as he knew. Add to that situations like the one above, and Mehir was definitely eyeing her with a weary look throughout the rest of the day. Wait, really? Does anyone have a PM that was started by Stick, even if it's not with him? That is odd that no one has corroborated the claim, unless it was just never asked. Admittedly I haven't been paying as much attention as I'd like, which is why I'm just noticing this, but that is odd.
cloudjumper he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Vote Count: Orlok (1): Sart Stick (3): Araris, Ecth III, Meta Flash (1): Cluny Ecth(1): Elenion Jondesu(1): Flash Edited June 8, 2017 by cloudjumper
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Night 3: Fire Inevitably, the guards found themselves waiting in their barracks again as night drew near. The skies were uncharacteristically clean of ash today, and the mists were just beginning to set in. The mists were, in fact, one of the reasons the guards congregated indoors this night. As trained guards, they would go out in the mists if ordered to do so... But who hadn't heard stories of mistwraiths? Even if you didn't believe the stories, there was something undeniably haunting about the mists. Gazing into them, you knew there was something out there. Something so vastly powerful, and vastly alien, something looking back at you when you stared into the mists. The only people who were comfortable around the mists were the allomancers... And in times like these, few had the courage to admit to possessing allomancy. Needless to say, the guards were not content on this night. None of the Venture agents had yet been caught. And people were dying because of it. Barry Allen glowered at Locke, who had claimed responsibility for ordering Allen's incarceration. Earlier in the day, the two had nearly come to blows. But things had settled down... Mostly. As the last of the guards filed into the barracks, Hadrian spoke up. "I think it's time to re-open this issue. Why is there a stick in our guard force?" "Yes, we do need to discuss this. What is a stick doing here? The recruiter get drunk or something?" Lance chimed in. This just might be crazy enough to be related to fifth in some way... "Stick, what is your purpose here?" "I am a stick." the Stick answered. "We don't need a stick as a guard. We should make it become fire." Mila pointed out. "I am a stick." the Stick protested. "No, you are obviously a Venture agent!" Mehir shouted at the Stick. "I am a stick." Stick repeated, sounding hurt. "All in favor of removing this stick from the House Conrad guard force, say aye." "Aye," said Hadrian. "Aye," said Lance. "Aye," said Mila. "Aye," said Mehir. "I am a stick," said Stick. And so it was decided. The other guards threw Stick on the hearth to keep them warm for the night. And Stick became fire. Night 3 has begun! It will end at 10:30 PM, Mountain Daylight Time, June 8th. Stick McStick (_Stick_) was lynched! They were a Village Courier and a Spiked (Allomantic Brass)! The following metals are available for ordering: Allomantic Bronze Vote Count: _Stick_ (4): Ecthelion III, Araris Valerian, Metacognition, BrightnessRadiant The Flash (2): Jondesu, Cluny The Scourge Ecthelion III (1): Elenion Jondesu (1): The Flash OrlokTsubodai (1): Sart Player List: Marv (Hemalurgic_Headshot) Barry Allen (The Flash) Jeff (Manukos) - short for Jeffonimo Lance (Ecthelion III) - The Second Nameless Booken (Paranoid King) - a victim of the "common word + en" method of naming Village Seeker Garshin (Yitzi2) Ribis (cloudjumper) - the bored second son of a noble from the Remote Dominance Stick McStick (_Stick_) Village Courier and Brass Spiked Remart (Jondesu) Beet Asper (Ornstein) - an old timer who knows his stuff Metallurgist Locke Tekiel (OrlokTsubodai) - a scion of a well - respected noble house Absolen (StrikerEZ) - a skaa worker in the Conrad fields Jay (DroughtBringer) - a blind young man attempting to keep his blindness a secret Boris (Elenion) - a guard known for laziness and general apathy Hadrian Penrod (Araris Valerian) - hoping to ascend to Ruin Mehir (Metacognition) - a mute and paranoid guard Cluny (Cluny the Scourge) - a man who believes he is a rat with a spearhead on his tail Valbar (TheMightyLopen) - who always gets ignored despite his large stature Village Rioter Mila (BrightnessRadiant) - a girl from the country Sorren Karidor (Dalinar Kholin) - an old guard who's been here longer than any of you whippersnappers Village Thug Argyle (Sart) - a very clumsy man Edited June 8, 2017 by Drake Marshall Lopen wasn't dead on the player list for some reason. Now he is. 7
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Hmmm, stick wasn't evil. I was so sure about that one. How come whenever I'm REALLY positive someone's evil, I'm usually wrong? I need to sleep rn. I'll be back on tomorrow when I'm less annoyed. Although I have to admit.... @Drake Marshall that was a hilarious writeup! Well done!
Steeldancer he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Well guys I'm fully expecting to die tonight. Any help would be greatly appreciated. But just I'll do my best to do as much analysis as possible before I die. Also why only 1 metal avaliable? Edited June 8, 2017 by The Flash
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 There's only one metal available because that's just how the dice were played. I can't remember exactly how it works, but the number of available metals is randomized, and so are the metals that are available. Also, did stick ever claim to be spiked? Or am I just creating memories in my head? I could've sworn she had claimed to be spiked, but I could be mixing up her with someone else.
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