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Back to reading the Remus Lupin article. Despite being an illuminating look at one of my favorite characters in the whole series, I have another nitpick: 

 


At Hogwarts, Remus revealed himself to be a gifted teacher, with a rare flair for his own subject and a profound understanding of his pupils. He was, as ever, particularly drawn to the underdog, and both Neville Longbottom and Harry Potter benefited from his kindness.

 

What are you talking about 

 

Harry isn't the underdog 

 

Three-quarters of the school loves him and the rest are Slytherins 

 

He 

 

He got to play Quidditch as a first year 

 

No one else did that 

 

Not even Draco "My father will hear about this" Malfoy 

 

Do 

 

Do you even know what an underdog is

 

Really now

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Back to reading the Remus Lupin article. Despite being an illuminating look at one of my favorite characters in the whole series, I have another nitpick: 

 

 

 

What are you talking about 

 

Harry isn't the underdog 

 

Three-quarters of the school loves him and the rest are Slytherins 

 

He 

 

He got to play Quidditch as a first year 

 

No one else did that 

 

Not even Draco "My father will hear about this" Malfoy 

 

Do 

 

Do you even know what an underdog is

 

Really now

An underdog is when dogs hide under the table at lunch and want some of the tasty human food, right? :ph34r:

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An underdog is when dogs hide under the table at lunch and want some of the tasty human food, right? :ph34r:

 

In that case, I have two. They have scrunchy faces and enjoy fried eggs. :wub: 

 

I mean, Neville Longbottom was an underdog of the highest order, but Harry? He's the most popular kid in school, and there's only one teacher who wouldn't bend over backwards for him. 

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I mean, Neville Longbottom was an underdog of the highest order, but Harry? He's the most popular kid in school, and there's only one teacher who wouldn't bend over backwards for him.

Storms, that explains why I've never found the school based parts of the plot very interesting.

The narrative tries to portray the most popular guy as the stereotypical school's underdog, so we have neither the true underdog nor a popular guy facing problems more connected to his position. That makes it feel forced and boring, and only when doing the more "choosen one" heroic stuff Harry falls into place and things get a little more natural.

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Storms, that explains why I've never found the school based parts of the plot very interesting.

The narrative tries to portray the most popular guy as the stereotypical school's underdog, so we have neither the true underdog nor a popular guy facing problems more connected to his position. That makes it feel forced and boring, and only when doing the more "choosen one" heroic stuff Harry falls into place and things get a little more natural.

 

I actually found many of the side characters more sympathetic than Harry, for most of the series, and the world was fun enough to keep me reading. 

 

Honestly? I would've liked to see Rowling embrace Harry as a popular kid, rather than trying to shove him into an underdog role. I know the stereotype of popular kids is more akin to Draco Malfoy (for the first five books, at least; I actually found him sympathetic for the last two, even if Rowling didn't) but if they're genuinely kind to others, they can work. Look at Tadashi Hamada from Big Hero 6. The entire school loved him, and at no point were we meant to believe he didn't earn their love. Harry could've been another Tadashi, and I think it would have made his character feel far more genuine. 

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I can see what you guys are saying with the popularity issues. But I think JKR did a very good job at portraying how fickle fame is. -_-

I also have been realizing that I am more accepting when it comes to fiction characters, than most people. :huh: Not sure why exactly.

Because fictional characters are, by definition, not real?

 

She did. There are a lot of things she did right with that series. 

 

I think it's because, with fictional characters, we often have a chance to see inside their heads. We learn why they do what they do, and more often than not, the mistakes they make are made honestly and with the best intentions in mind. We can forgive them because we have reasons given to us to forgive them. With real people, on the other hand, we never truly know what they're thinking. They can tell us, but for all we know, they can be lying to save face. If they make a mistake, it's easier to assume they did it out of malice than out of misplaced intentions. We can believe the best of fictional characters because we feel we can trust them; with real people, we never really know until they betray us. 

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I... just had a thought so I have a somewhat arrogant question to ask... 

Do you think the narrator in Blood and Art is sympathetic?

 

I tried to get around the entire "No you idiot dont go down to the basement alone!" feeling you often get from horror movies by forcing her to do what she ended up doing.

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I... just had a thought so I have a somewhat arrogant question to ask... 

Do you think the narrator in Blood and Art is sympathetic?

 

I tried to get around the entire "No you idiot dont go down to the basement alone!" feeling you often get from horror movies by forcing her to do what she ended up doing.

 

I thought the doctor's actions made sense, given her situation. To her knowledge, there was nothing supernatural about her patient's paintings; the murders and the art were connected only in his mind. So from her point of view, looking at the paintings alone posed no threat to her safety. 

 

I do hope she burned them with fire and got some serious medication afterward, though. :mellow: 

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I thought the doctor's actions made sense, given her situation. To her knowledge, there was nothing supernatural about her patient's paintings; the murders and the art were connected only in his mind. So from her point of view, looking at the paintings alone posed no threat to her safety. 

 

I do hope she burned them with fire and got some serious medication afterward, though. :mellow:

How about the patient?

 

I hope the doctor burned the paintings too, but looks like the ending had something else in store :mellow:

 

You know I like this part about writing horror. Fantasy writers knows everything that happens behind the scenes, I just have guesses and interpretations, sometimes several. I dont know more than the readers do.

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How about the patient?

 

I hope the doctor burned the paintings too, but looks like the ending had something else in store :mellow:

 

You know I like this part about writing horror. Fantasy writers knows everything that happens behind the scenes, I just have guesses and interpretations, sometimes several. I dont know more than the readers do.

 

Not really, no. Deluded, definitely. Maybe a little pathetic. But I don't see him as sympathetic. If he put his art above the lives of his victims, no amount of weeping over their fates will justify his sorrow. He wasn't forced into what he did; he made a choice. 

 

That is interesting—and probably why I've never considered writing horror. I'd rather know everything that's going on behind the scenes and in the world. 

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This morning, when I was returning home from veterinary after saying goodbye to Makruś I've found this balloon in the bushes near my home. I know you all can't understand it, but those are best wishes for 2016. That was kind of magical to find a balloon wishing me a good year after something that tragic...

 

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Not really, no. Deluded, definitely. Maybe a little pathetic. But I don't see him as sympathetic. If he put his art above the lives of his victims, no amount of weeping over their fates will justify his sorrow. He wasn't forced into what he did; he made a choice. 

 

That is interesting—and probably why I've never considered writing horror. I'd rather know everything that's going on behind the scenes and in the world. 

Hn... interesting. I think when it keeps screaming for you to feed it for months until you cant sleep you have a decently understandable reason.

 

I have a feeling I would be a very infuriating fantasy writer XD

 

I have this idea, which I probably will do something with one day that throws the old fantasy tropes out into the real world all naked and confused. So the old oracle is the drunk under the bridge, the dungeons are abandoned laboratories, amusement parks or the old annoying neighbor lady's house (With her loud, annoying dog actually being a dragon in disguise), the princess is the presidents daughter, the evil overlord is your boss and so on.

 

Thing is there is a detective following the main character who doesnt know anything about the magic and explains everything from how it should work in the real world, so it is very possible the main character is just insane, then again, how did the main character just cut down three armed agents with a stick?

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