Mid-Range Game 9: The Steel Ministry

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

1)Creccio - Inor Haze

2)Deathclutch10 - Shi Kuratchi

3)Phattemer - Axies

4)Clanky - Lan

5)rulelikeSTINK - No Name

6)Venture Mistborn - Maxisum

7)RippleGylf - Marie Lepinceau

8)polcinghornbd - Elijah

9)Winter Cloud - Sophia Erikell

10)Meandbooks - Ailyth  

11)The Honey Badger - Dagbert Honerion

12)Nicocoberru - Coco

13)Alfa - Ashbringer Fadraux

14)Zephrer - Serech of House Huxer

 

 

ALSO IF YOU ARE THE ATIUM ROLE. Please tell me. You're on my suspicion list and we can afford a mislynch, but I mean I'd rather just not lynch you if we don't have to. At this point you are either out of charges or the skaa probably aren't going to target you anyways so please just tell me who you are.

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[STINK he/him]

There probably isn't an atium role at this rate, and if there was, then they most likely did waste all their charges. 

 

Also, being atium doesn't mean they are good, unless I didn't read the roles correctly.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

We're lynching Honey Badger today by the way. He's the Skaa Brass and I'd rather have him not mess with the coinshot.

 

However Alfa being the pewterarm we could probably lynch him since he has the possiblity of not dying to the coinshot anyways.

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[STINK he/him]

Until you explain how you got this information, I'm not going to vote for anyone. 

 

Just stating 'This person is Skaa' isn't worthy of a Lynch, and you did this last cycle with Kipper. I don't imagine many other people will also vote for Badger but I can't be sure, as I'm not those people.

 

You were at least explaining yourself before, and now you are not. Why the blatant change? I'm not gonna trust anyone who simply 'knows' who has what alignment.

 

Also, no idea why the other person went for Wyrm, all he was doing was helping us. Unless people still think that because of that one game where he played well and lead the town or something, that he should never be allowed to contribute as much as other people? 

Edited November 1, 2015 by IrulelikeSTINK

[Clanky he/him]

We also can't be sure that the new coinshot even is an inquisitor. Perhaps the Skaa got a coinshot with only one or two shots and they were waiting for good targets to use it on.

 

I would like to hear some more reasons from Death as to why Badger is a Skaa. Until I get that I will be placing my vote on Winter. I never got any good reasoning to make me rethink my vote from last cycle.

 

EDIT: Vote recolouring

Edited November 2, 2015 by Clanky

[The Honey Badger he/him]

I would like to hear this 'evidence' as well, and for the Villages information. Deathclutch even has my role wrong, I'm a Tineye. Pretty useless huh, I'll be burning tonight if anyone wants to check

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Once Gamma releases the write-up you'll all understand. I can't explain until then. Just think about why the Skaa didn't kill anyone.

 

Also coinshot I need you to shoot tonight please. Thanks. I'm out of shots.

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[STINK he/him]

You can't explain? This looks pretty dodgy to me to be honest. As if we all need info from the Write-up, then why doesn't the coinshot who committed their action not need it?

Edited November 1, 2015 by IrulelikeSTINK

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

To put it bluntly, because I deduce quicker?

 

I appreciate the argument but you're an Inquisition and as the only proven Inquisition I'd appreciate a little faith. (I know I shot Kipper though)

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[STINK he/him]

If someone is deducing quicker (as so bluntly put, which I will respond to with equal bluntness) then why can't you explain what you deduced?

Edited November 1, 2015 by IrulelikeSTINK

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Because Gamma hasn't released the write-up yet and techincally there can still be a Lurcher protection from Kipper.

[STINK he/him]

You could have just said that straight away, there is no need to hide all this information from the town. Even more so if we apparently know who all the Eliminators are. Which you still haven't explained except for saying you deduce quicker. 

 

I'm just asking for an explanation.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

The skaa didn't get to kill because they weren't there to send it.

 

I know it's not proof until Gamma writes the write-up please because there can still be a Lurch don't respond with "that's not proof". I'm tired of that and that's why I held out on explaining.

 

It's also why Alfa didn't respond when I called him out. He wasn't there to reply.

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[STINK he/him]

That is an explanation. You have done more to convince me of their guilt, and explanations don't need to be paragraphs long as some people have them, though we will see when the Write-up is edited in. 

 

Thanks for explaining. 

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Glad we're pushing towards the same page Stink.

[STINK he/him]

It's fine, you just gotta remember that everyone doesn't have as logical a brain as yours

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Tehee .

 

I'll give you guys an improved list of who is good and who is bad when Gamma posts the write-up.

[Zephrer he/him]

Why does everyone assume that deathclutch is the Inquisitor coinshot? Just because he claimed to have killed those two Skaa does not mean that he actually did. He could very easily be the Skaa coinshot, and the other coinshot could just be laying low.

Why wouldn't the other coinshot come out and call out deathclutch, you might ask? Perhaps because they still have charges and don't want to be killed by the Skaa.

I know you probably won't believe me, seeing as I'm still under suspicion of being Skaa. But at least consider the possibility.

[STINK he/him]

If Clutch is a Skaa Coinshot, and claimed a coinshots kills, the other would just kill the claimee, as it's rude to take peoples kills.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

I think you're an OK guy Zephrer. I'll take your opinion into conisderation.

But right before the end of the cycle last night I claimed I was shooting Kipper. Then Kipper died. I think that's enough proof don't you?

[Zephrer he/him]

@stink

Deathclutch only just started claiming the kills. So the other coinshot might not have gotten around to killing him yet.

@deathclutch. It proves that you're a coinshot (or are working with one), but it really doesn't tell us much about your alignment.

I'm not convinced yet that either of you are innocent.

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

For the record, I haven't had time to edit the write-up in, but I would have mentioned if there was another failed attack, as that information would be public anyway, so as a GM I wouldn't withhold any sort of that information with something as time sensitive as a write-up.

 

Also, just going to leave this here again....

Edited November 1, 2015 by Gamma Fiend

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

@Zephrer the Coinshot who killed Lopen and Shallan 100% HAS to be out of shots. (It's still me by the way lol)

1 for Lopen

1 for Shallan

1 for Kipper (or Wyrm if you don't believe it's me)

EITHER WAY the 1st coinshot who shot Lopen and Shallan is out of shots.

 

So they have no reason to NOT come out. (I am currently coming out....)

 

Also I don't think I'd kill 2 of my teammates just to be proven... Maybe one if I was really going for that tactic but two? That's a little pushing it.

Edited November 1, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[Creccio he/him]

Also, just to add a cent or two on Clutch list, He had Lopen the highest on his suspicions the cycle that his death by shot happened. Thus, he knowing his claimed coinshot powers to be true, he just did it himself in case something like this happened. At this point given the analysis and depth he has given on Kipper, even though he was not a Skaa, we can see his intent to help the village. I am wlling to trust him at this point.

 

He took out 2 Skaa, what have we done?

 

Alfa

 

Anything to say to last cycle events?

Edited November 1, 2015 by Creccio

[RippleGylf she/her]

@Zephrer the Coinshot who killed Lopen and Shallan 100% HAS to be out of shots. (It's still me by the way lol)

1 for Lopen

1 for Shallan

1 for Kipper (or Wyrm if you don't believe it's me)

EITHER WAY the 1st coinshot who shot Lopen and Shallan is out of shots.

 

So they have no reason to NOT come out. (I am currently coming out....)

 

Also I don't think I'd kill 2 of my teammates just to be proven... Maybe one if I was really going for that tactic but two? That's a little pushing it.

 

I don't know if you can with certainty say that the expert coinshot is out of charges. I started out the game as a soother with 4 charges. Having a 4th charge is possible, just unlikely. 

 

Also, I suspect that the majority of the skaa are inactive, as they didn't get a kill last cycle. Therefore, it might be more worth our time to focus on people who aren't posting at all.

 

Edit: Meandbooks, we haven't heard from you in a while.

 

Disclaimer: I'm not saying we go all Contribution Crusade, but we should look at who didn't post at all last cycle, but have been relatively active. However, I'm willing to bet that there's at least one completely inactive skaa.

 

Edit 2: retracting vote

Edited November 2, 2015 by RippleGylf