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Cycle One: The Sword of Gryffindor

This cycle ends at 20:00 EST (GMT -4) on Saturday, March 28th.

Round One

Prefect Voting

This round only, players vote in their House PMs for their House Prefect. Largest House elects two. Standard SE voting style, voting in red, with ties broken randomly. Prefect voting results are announced in House PMs only. These votes can not be affected by spells. The most voted for student may secretly choose an Extra Credit spell to learn and use once as early as Round Two. Only one spell may be held at a time. 

House Points Voting (Exe)

During the investigation, you convince your House’s Head Professor to reward your allies and dock House Points from your foes. What an easily abused demerit system! The most penalized students might be killed, or worse, expelled!

Players cast up to six votes* in their GM PM, all for different people: +3/+2/+1/-1/-2/-3. 

The rollover post will list the (modified) points accumulated by each student and, for reference, who each player voted for, pre-modification. 

Players may be penalized or rewarded based on their points total for the round, per the rules.

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Students:

1. @Through the Living Mist as Trance, secretly a squib.  

2. @Amanuensis as Lamar and Amora Penwell, 1st year brother at Hogwarts determined to solve the murder of his now-ghost sister

3. @Through The Living Grass as Orpheus ‘Ory’ Grey the 5th year. Terrible liar, loyal to a fault. 

4. @coco.pudding as Vera Coran, the daughter of Someone Important in the Ministry of Magic. 

5. @Through the Living Hopper as Jarry Motter, a high-achieving, even higher-dueling 6th year.

6. @Araris Valerian as Tom Bombadil Donuts, or TBD for short, who has a mysterious lineage.

7. @Through the living Wahr as Leokadius Seydlitz, a cape-wearing German Pureblood whose family got him accepted at Hogwarts.

8. @TwinStorm as Raese Thean, a musically-inclined, slightly oblivious half-blood who has always dreamed of Hogwarts and Quidditch.

9. @Through the Living Ink as Forest Randane, an overenthusiatic 5th year with curly brown hair. 

10. @Doc12 as Azalea, who has the grace and smile of someone who bad things have never happened to ever. 

11. @mippo as Sox.

12. @Qianweilian as Leonidas, a sixth year enamored with wizard history and the art of combat.

13. @|TJ| as Ceadach O'Neall, the fourth year Quidditch Keeper. 

14. @Miss Fallen as Jane Norie, a bored 7th year with a green thumb. 

15. @Emperor Comatose as Garick Sashtri, excited to be here!!!

16. @The Unknown Medallion as Siannain O'hAodhes (Shannon O'Hughes), a seventh year star Quidditch beater who has yet to learn a single spell. 

17. @Frozen Mint as Pali, a 6th year who loves a good duel and is too impulsive for her own good.

Midnight. 

At the base of the marble staircase lay a body with a decapitated head. 

Well, nearly decapitated. 

“Nicholas!” screeched McGonagall as she pushed through the growing crowd to loom over the body. “It’s too late in the day for head games.” 

The ghost of Nearly Headless Nick gaped at her and sputtered incoherently. McGonagall suddenly stumbled back, clutching her neck, as a spectral viper lunged from Nick’s mouth and drew blood. 

Expelliarmus!” shouted Pali, blasting it away. “Are you alright, Professor?”

“A thousand apologies, Professor. Looks like the cat had my tongue, eh?” Nick floated to his feet. “I have… no memory of the past few minutes.” 

A second scream pierced the air.

The students spun to look at the Great Hall, where a motionless body lay draped over the Sorting Hat’s stool. Its hand was holding an ornate silver sword, adorned with rubies. 

“Is he- he looks too old to be a student,” mused Nick. “Better do a head count!”

As they approached, the body suddenly flickered and disappeared. Still bleeding, McGonagall kicked over the stool. 

That. Was a very important sword. And where’s that bloody hat? Bring me the Weasley boys right now.”

Leonidas piped up. “They’re with Filch.”

“Fifty demerits anyway. To each of them. This school has a zero tolerance policy for bad behaviour.” She waved at Ceadach and Siannain. “Excluding athletes. We’re very excited for the upcoming season.” 

“I don’t want us to lose our heads here, but the symbology…”

“Is of no concern to students. One hundred points to whoever finds that hat. Now go to your dorms. GO!

The Sorting Hat is missing, and someone maybe died? Time to vote for some prefects to help maintain order. 

 

Edited by Archer
Posted

Anyone feel like sharing house numbers?

We’ve got two people in Hufflepuff

Posted
6 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said:

Anyone feel like sharing house numbers?

We’ve got two people in Hufflepuff

Hm. I asked to be sorted into the smallest House and am in Gryffindor with two others. Are you saying it's just you and one other person or a total lf 3 including yourself?

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1 minute ago, Amanuensis said:

Hm. I asked to be sorted into the smallest House and am in Gryffindor with two others. Are you saying it's just you and one other person or a total lf 3 including yourself?

It is me and one other person. That probably means three-4 people picked smallest(I chose Hufflepuff) and you got the extra person 

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Orry miraculously managed to return to the Hufflepuff common room without any trouble. Of course, Hufflepuff only technically exists, being only Orry and one other person. The name of that person escapes Orry for the moment… 

Trance. Right, Trance. Isis’ teeth, he needed to shake off the confusion. “Welcome to Hufflepuff,” he says. “And yes- this is all of Hufflepuff. We have not won a Quiditch championship in a long time.”

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Also sorry Doc and probably Araris :P I would have enjoyed the Slytherin House PM with y'all and will certainly feel FOMO the rest of the game, but I personally would rather be in a smaller house for solving purposes.

Two questions for everyone:

Do you expect 3 baddies or 4 given a player count of 17?

Do you expect an equal spread of baddies across Houses to maximize information / power, or some bunching up to counteract that presumption?

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2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Do you expect 3 baddies or 4 given a player count of 17?

No idea.

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Do you expect an equal spread of baddies across Houses to maximize information / power or some bunching up to counteract that presumption?

I doubt that they would bunch up in one house, as it would be fairly pointless. I suspect they’re mostly spread out.

55 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said:

Anyone feel like sharing house numbers?

We’ve got two people in Hufflepuff

Slytherin has TUM, Twinstorm, Comatose, Araris, Coco, Wahr, Doc, and me.

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Funny, I assumed we were declaring Houses before we got our alignments because I declared my house in my GM PM before Cycle 0, so I wasn't worrying House choices being alignment indicative. I see that might have been wrong now.

Yeah Slytherin has like 8 people it's wild.

@Amanuensis

If you think Amara might have known Azalea, Azalea's happy to try and facilitate communication between Lamar and Amara. 

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Working off Mist's claim of requesting Huffle:

  • At least 1 picked Huffle (Mist)
  • Maybe 1 picked Gryffin (not Aman, another claimed "any but Ravenclaw, surprise me", leaving the third as the only logical intentional picker)
  • If 4 "put me somewhere smol", Gryfin + 1, 50/50 Gryffin/Huffle + 1, the other +1, then 50/50 Gryffin/Huffle (favoring Gryffin)
  • Or if 3 and a picked Gryffin, 50/50 Gryffin/Huffle +1, the other +1, then 50/50 Gryffin/Huffle (favoring Gryffin)
36 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

I doubt that they would bunch up in one house, as it would be fairly pointless. I suspect they’re mostly spread out.

Not necessarily. For one, there is the IKYK factor where this is the standard assumption and a team playing for the long game might want to throw off that assumption in order to distance themselves from each other later.

For two, being elected house Prefect requires votes in the House PM. There is the way of looking at it where the baddies would prefer to gather maximum knowledge, prevent town cores from forming, and potentially direct each Prefect vote in their favor. There is also a way of looking at it where they could increase the chances of a baddie ending up Prefect by stacking their presence in a house (the smaller the better).

For three, working off the assumption of even-spread, this makes larger houses more dangerous for the baddies because once the baddie in a House gets killed, it's an effective soft clear for the rest (see: LG110 late game PoE narrowing). Having 2 in Slytherin, for example, would prevent that potential trap from clearing the most.

For four, some players (such as me) would consider not putting any elim in the largest House in order to encourage village cannibalization. It's a high-risk, high-reward play given how much information gets sacrificed for it, but some players (such as me) might have the appetite or inclination to do something unpredictable (FUD / Fog of War be strong). On the flip side, if more elims are stacked in the largest house than not, the smaller pure town Houses would potentially struggle with their own distrust / cannibalization

I reckon that an even spread is more likely, but could be fatal if assumed.

30 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Funny, I assumed we were declaring Houses before we got our alignments because I declared my house in my GM PM before Cycle 0, so I wasn't worrying House choices being alignment indicative. I see that might have been wrong now.

Yeah Slytherin has like 8 people it's wild.

@Amanuensis

If you think Amara might have known Azalea, Azalea's happy to try and facilitate communication between Lamar and Amara. 

Mhmmm. Likely story :P I probably wouldn't put too much stock in house decisions being AI but until we have proper vote counts and flips to work from, I feel it's a valid thread to tug

  • 2 Hufflepuffs
  • 3 Gryffindors
  • 4 Ravenclaws
  • 8 Slytherins

I will get back to you on that! I'm doing homework rn, have a class in an hour, then have to close for work after, so any RP on my front will come tonight. Feel free to interact with others in the meantime.

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I'd guess a somewhat even spread but not a perfectly even one. I'm thinking we have 2 Slytherin elims given the house size and then the rest will be elsewhere. But that may also be too perfect/predictable?

If everyone is bunched together, I think its fair to assume the only house that would happen in is Slytherin.

The thing with baddies being bunched in a small house is one, I assume Archer would take pity on a lone villager in a house full of elims (maybe a dangerous assumption lol), and two, it seems less fun not to spread the elims around at least a little. Less potential for plotting and backstabbing.

Pali headed back to the Gryffindor common room with a grin on her face. It had been a while since her first night back at Hogwarts was so exciting. She had a feeling this would be a great year.

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Forest glanced up at the commotion, frowning as the shouting frightened the bowtruckles they'd been trying to feed. The Gryffindor common room was abuzz with alternating excited chatter and panicked crying. Rumours ran wild already, but there seemed to have been a ... theft? And a murder? Two murderers? They couldn't tell.

Forest tapped someone grinning as they entered the room. "Excuse me," they asked, "What happened?"

( @Frozen Mint, would you like to RP? If not it can be an NPC)

Hello! *pretends to know what I'm doing* I may not be hugely online until Saturday. How many of the large number of Slytherins announced their intentions before picking houses? It would make it easier for Elims to coordinate if they had a vague idea beforehand. Maybe. If I've understood what's happening at all. 

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17 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

Speaking of Harry Potter, how about that new teaser trailer? 👀

I'm avoiding it and trying to pretend it doesn't exist

That said, I did really enjoy the books when I read them, though Azkaban gave me nightmares 

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7 minutes ago, Through the Living Ink said:

Hello! *pretends to know what I'm doing* I may not be hugely online until Saturday. How many of the large number of Slytherins announced their intentions before picking houses? It would make it easier for Elims to coordinate if they had a vague idea beforehand. Maybe. If I've understood what's happening at all. 

I know of four I think, me, doc, wahr, qian

but there may have been more I missed

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Sox walks over to the overturned stool, and inspects it. Maybe this year will be exciting after all. He walks up to the Ravenclaw common room, and sets his things in a corner, then claims a chair and sits down.

Now to wait for his fellow house members.

Alrighty I think I understand the voting thing

@Amanuensis that is an impressive amount of analysis for just beginning 🙏

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Ah, I didn't see the outright Slytherin claim by Qian. Might as well finish the chart out then. The colors are just my current gut leans on the relevant pairs (e!Mint > e!Ink and e!Mist > e!Grass). In either case both could be village. Obviously discounting myself so take my slot with grain of salt.

Gryffindor Hufflepuff Ravenclaw Slytherin
Aman Grass Hopper Doc
Ink Mist mippo Qian
Mint   TJ Wahr
    Miss TUM
      Twin
      Coma
      Araris
      coco
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15 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Ah, I didn't see the outright Slytherin claim by Qian. Might as well finish the chart out then. The colors are just my current gut leans on the relevant pairs (e!Mint > e!Ink and e!Mist > e!Grass). In either case both could be village. Obviously discounting myself so take my slot with grain of salt.

Gryffindor Hufflepuff Ravenclaw Slytherin
Aman Grass Hopper Doc
Ink Mist mippo Qian
Mint   TJ Wahr
    Miss TUM
      Twin
      Coma
      Araris
      coco

Wait what is this- does red mean suspected, green mean confirmed, yellow mean idk?

also me nick is Ver sorry for the confusion 

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15 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Wait what is this- does red mean suspected, green mean confirmed, yellow mean idk?

also me nick is Ver sorry for the confusion 

Yeah so the colors are just for my benefit. Because I know my alignment, I can narrow down Gryffindor to a 50/50 Village/Elim and do the same for Hufflepuff. Either one of or both Houses could theoretically be pure (no elims), but if I had to take a guess right now at which member of each pair is elim, I'd say Mint over Ink and Mist over Grass. The rest are yellow because I've not seen enough to lean one way or the other yet

Specifically for Mist, it comes down to me finding his playstyle more reserved than in LG110 (possibly too early to tell) and me assuming elims would rather not rand their House, but pick one more deliberately (not a guarantee depending on player temperament or overall strategy).

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1 hour ago, Amanuensis said:

Also sorry Doc and probably Araris :P I would have enjoyed the Slytherin House PM with y'all and will certainly feel FOMO the rest of the game, but I personally would rather be in a smaller house for solving purposes.

Two questions for everyone:

Do you expect 3 baddies or 4 given a player count of 17?

Do you expect an equal spread of baddies across Houses to maximize information / power, or some bunching up to counteract that presumption?

1: 3, I got it from the rules change.

spoilers for length/font

Spoiler

First off(thank you to Aman for helping me realize this) we only have three Elims. For those of who weren’t paying attention or didn’t read much into it. The rule changes from Archer heavily favor the Elim team. 

It makes parity the wincon(instead of being assured that they could wipe out the Elims) what this means is that if they end a night with equal number of Elims and villagers the Elims win. Despite the fact that if the village wins the ties from then on they could still win, or the influence of spells. It makes an Elim win more likely.

The second rule change makes it actively harder for the village to win if they’re doing well. Once again favoring the Elims.

The final part gives them a free spell. 

This is all a real serious advantage to the Elims, which only makes sense if the Elim team is reduced by player count. We have 17 players here, and normally that would mean there’s 4 Elims. But with the amount of changes to the rules that favor the Elims, I think it’s pretty clear we only have 3 or less Elims. I doubt 2, since 2 seems way too small, even with the added bonuses. But 4 is definitely too much.

Also, archer said “A” remaining Elim rather than “the”

And for the second, no. All of Slytherin seemed to be a choice. And we decided houses before alignments, so I think it’s just an odds thing. 

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2 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said:

And for the second, no. All of Slytherin seemed to be a choice. And we decided houses before alignments, so I think it’s just an odds thing. 

I didn't see any Slytherin claims apart from Doc and Qian prior to the alignments being rolled, so maybe or maybe not. I did change my mind after receiving my alignment too

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22 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I didn't see any Slytherin claims apart from Doc and Qian prior to the alignments being rolled, so maybe or maybe not. I did change my mind after receiving my alignment too

The numbers don’t make sense. In order for Slytherin to have a majority, all 8 people had to have chosen Slytherin. Otherwise the people would’ve gotten shoved to Hufflepuff 

edit the same is true for Ravenclaw. All 4 people chose it, otherwise Hufflepuff would have 3

Edit 2: also, Aman, you slipped up. I’ll explain once someone else posts

Edited by Through the Living Mist
Posted
30 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I didn't see any Slytherin claims apart from Doc and Qian prior to the alignments being rolled, so maybe or maybe not. I did change my mind after receiving my alignment too

So… everyone got village PMs before D0. The only way for you to change your house based on alignment is if you got a PM from Archer during D0. That could only be the case if you were Elim.

Otherwise you would’ve gotten your alignment before you had the chance to claim. And you wouldn’t have known for certain that you were village until D1 started, after Archer announced he had sent out the Elim PMs.

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So, on to my own House house reasonings.

All of Slytherin and Ravenclaw chose those houses. Guaranteed

If that were not the case, the people who hadn’t chosen a house would’ve immediately gone to Hufflepuff(since we have two members(it’s making for surprisingly interesting prefect voting))

That means that Gryffindor and Hufflepuff got the people who didn’t clam a house. I did claim hufflepuff(you can check, I said I would after Doc and Coco wanted me to)

1 minute ago, Qianweilian said:

When is rollover again?

8 Pm EST(idk if that’s the correct format) or 0 utc.

Posted

Friendly reminder that Prefect voting occurs in your House PM. Exe voting occurs in your GM PM. 

Just now, Qianweilian said:

When is rollover again?

It's currently scheduled for Sunday evening. If we wanted to, it could reasonably be moved to Saturday evening. 

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38 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said:

The numbers don’t make sense. In order for Slytherin to have a majority, all 8 people had to have chosen Slytherin. Otherwise the people would’ve gotten shoved to Hufflepuff 

edit the same is true for Ravenclaw. All 4 people chose it, otherwise Hufflepuff would have 3

Edit 2: also, Aman, you slipped up. I’ll explain once someone else posts

What do you mean by the numbers not making sense? Everyone received their alignments before picking houses, no? In the pregame I told Doc I was picking Slytherin. Then D0 began and I was told my alignment. Then multiple people indicated they'd go to Slytherin and I decided to go elsewhere.

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