Doc12 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Okay. Looking at the graph. 1) @coco.pudding some questions for you. +3 to Qian? Felt you had stronger village reads than Qian 2) @Through the Living Ink I don't think I saw you give your thoughts in thread, can you explain your vote spread and why you left one vote blank? 3) @Miss Fallen no one else put a vote on Ink but you with a -1, what's your thought on Ink? 4) @Frozen Mint I'm sorry, could you explain why +3 to Miss? You guys aren't even in the same house, what makes you trust them so much? 5) @Through The Living Grass You're the other person who gave Miss points. Again, why Miss? She showed up once in thread and you guys didn't have access to the Ravenclaw PM More questions to be added when I think of them. I didn't actually go through and tally all the points, as I'm assuming there isn't anyone learning a spell yet to actually manipulate results. Edited March 29 by Doc12
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Doc12 said: 1) @coco.pudding some questions for you. +3 to Qian? Felt you had stronger village reads than Qian More importantly, why did she give me +2 when she's been consistently shading me ED1T: @Doc12 also sorry for giving you -3. This is the second time we've mind melded. You're probably just town. @Doc12 I am very mad at you for giving me +2 though. I legit wanted my scan sent through owl mail :sob: Araris died for your sins @Doc12 please remind me to finish my RP response to you later I am very behind on a college project rn so I probably should stop hyperfixating on the game (another reason I wanted to die...) but I don't want to leave you hanging like past games Edited March 29 by Amanuensis
Doc12 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: More importantly, why did she give me +2 when she's been consistently shading me ED1T: @Doc12 also sorry for giving you -3. This is the second time we've mind melded. You're probably just town. In the Slytherin PM right before rollover, Coco was expressing suspicion of the way Mist reacted to your 'hufflepuff exe' suggestion. Seems like a weird thing to do if they were just going to kill him, but yes. Coco has consistently expressed suspicion of you, and was willing to exe Aman/Araris/TUM before I put up my controversial 'don't exe Aman/Araris' post. So I'm surprised at the +2 as well. Araris also sent Owl Mail. Based on his message, he thinks Miss, Grass, Mint, Mippo, Emperor are more town leaning because he thinks elims probably engaged in light bussing with -1/-2 votes. Edit: Excuse me for wanting to keep you around Edit 2: Additional Data: People who didn't receive any positive votes: Coco, Hopper, Mippo, Emperor, Twin, Ink People who only got -1 votes: Ink Edited March 29 by Doc12
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, Doc12 said: In the Slytherin PM right before rollover, Coco was expressing suspicion of the way Mist reacted to your 'hufflepuff exe' suggestion. Seems like a weird thing to do if they were just going to kill him, but yes. Coco has consistently expressed suspicion of you, and was willing to exe Aman/Araris/TUM before I put up my controversial 'don't exe Aman/Araris' post. So I'm surprised at the +2 as well. Interesting. That's good info. 2 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Araris also sent Owl Mail. Based on his message, he thinks Miss, Grass, Mint, Mippo, Emperor are more town leaning because he thinks elims probably engaged in light bussing with -1/-2 votes. Agreed. This is something I was planning to look for and will report the results of my investigation hopefully before I sleep, otherwise it'll be rollovet tomorrow and I want to save that for my actual red scan 3 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Edit: Excuse me for wanting to keep you around Excuse denied
Verdance he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 10 hours ago, Doc12 said: Okay. Looking at the graph. 1) @coco.pudding some questions for you. +3 to Qian? Felt you had stronger village reads than Qian 2) @Through the Living Ink I don't think I saw you give your thoughts in thread, can you explain your vote spread and why you left one vote blank? 3) @Miss Fallen no one else put a vote on Ink but you with a -1, what's your thought on Ink? 4) @Frozen Mint I'm sorry, could you explain why +3 to Miss? You guys aren't even in the same house, what makes you trust them so much? 5) @Through The Living Grass You're the other person who gave Miss points. Again, why Miss? She showed up once in thread and you guys didn't have access to the Ravenclaw PM More questions to be added when I think of them. I didn't actually go through and tally all the points, as I'm assuming there isn't anyone learning a spell yet to actually manipulate results. I voted for Miss because she was another new player, idk. If Mist was suspicious of me, why was he trying to give me prefect? I gave it to him because he’s more experienced and he tried to give it to me because he said he would die. But if he thought I was an elim, wouldn’t he try to take it out of my hands? Edited March 29 by Through The Living Grass
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 @Doc12 how aware was everyone in Slytherin about each others votes? For example, did Wahr claim he would -3 Araris? Did TUM and Qian claim they would -3 me? Did TUM claim -2 on Araris? I'm also curious why Wahr -2'd Twin and by Qian -2'd Wahr? I assume you made a case for Hopper.
TwinStorm He/Him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 ok ok ive apparently missed a lot so secret roles? strange it feels like a very v/move to me, since thats so risky for an elim, but Aman definitely has troll material . . . Araris being village is unfortunate, same with Mist getting NKed, seeing I hedged my bets on him as for the rest . . . idk run anaylsis in the morning @Doc12 wanna RP?
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 44 minutes ago, Doc12 said: How did you guys do 3 pages and 200 replies in less than two hours >> So a couple things. 1) @The Unknown Medallion can you confirm you did not do any positive votes? 2) I don't believe in secret roles, because Archer told me that I was the only one - I have the phoenix role which means I'm unkillable! 3) Mist sent Owl Mail, he suspects Ver/Grass and Qian. Ver/Grass because Mist believes the elims either were set on killing him or switched to him when he explained why he was the best target. Ver fits both because Mist told them early D1, and Ver, Mint, Cocom and Aman was also on during rollover to see him explain that again? Qian because Mist doesn't like how they gave him 3 votes, trusted Grass, and agreed with everything he said. Obviously, take Mist's thought with a grain of salt, but he was right about being targeted *shrug Also, for Slytherins, Coco/Araris were tied for position of second prefect. If Coco was elim that might have been a reason for elims to give Araris more negatives. I actually didn't vote for you C1, I'm honoring my promise not to vote new people early But you are fair game now. I'll need time to think though. Also @Amanuensis I can't believe you gave me -3 I thought we had something going! I didn't give positives out, though I wish I had. I didn't have much time nor good service before wrestling kept me away until after rollover 6 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: @Doc12 how aware was everyone in Slytherin about each others votes? For example, did Wahr claim he would -3 Araris? Did TUM and Qian claim they would -3 me? Did TUM claim -2 on Araris? I'm also curious why Wahr -2'd Twin and by Qian -2'd Wahr? I assume you made a case for Hopper. Hey, I'm in Slytherin too I don't recall anyone explicitly claiming their specific numbers, though susses were shared that may not have been included in thread. Don't remember anything more than that though, so maybe asking Doc was the correct decision
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 So I do not know how this game works, I thought negative votes were good. I was so happy that you all had so much faith in me. I'll be back tomorrow, I'll actually have free time, don't worry. Yes, before Doc gets mad at me, I forgot to vote. @ArcherI can still talk in-thread, right?
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Alright really gotta work on my project so here's a peek at the raw data I have so far Spoiler Name 3+ 2+ 1+ -1 -2 -3 Vergrass Mist Doc Miss coco Araris Aman Ink Wahr Mint Aman Hopper NONE Araris Mint Miss Mist Doc Aman coco NONE Hopper NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE Mippo TJ Mist Aman Wahr Ink Hopper Miss NONE Doc Mist Ink YUM NONE TJ NONE Mist Mippo Araris Hopper NONE coco Qian Aman Doc Hopper Araris NONE Coma NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE Doc Mist Aman TJ coco TUM Hopper Qian Mist Doc TUM coco Wahr Aman TUM NONE NONE NONE Doc Araris Aman Twin Doc Mist Vergrass Aman TUM Wahr Wahr NONE NONE TUM Doc Twin Araris Reece's in Pieces Aman Araris TUM Wahr Hopper coco Doc Araris TJ Qian Aman TUM Wahr coco Mist Doc Vergrass Qian Coco Aman Araris Araris Voters Aman Voters Three -3s on Araris (Ink, Wahr, Mist) -9 Three -3s on Aman (Ver, Qian, TUM) -9 Three -2s on Araris (Ver, coco, TUM) -6 One -2 on Aman (Mist) -2 One -1 on Araris (TJ) -1 Two -1s on Aman (Mint, Twin) -2 Zero +1s on Araris 0 Three +1s on Aman (Ink, Mippo, Araris) 3+ Zero +2s on Araris 0 One +2 on Aman (Doc) 2+ One +3 on Araris (Aman) 3+ Zero +3s on Aman 0 -16 + 3 = -13 -13 + 5 = -8 Hopper Voters coco Voters Two -3s (Mippo, Doc) -6 One -3 (Araris) -3 One -2 (TJ) -2 Two -2s (Mint, Aman) -4 Three -1s (Ink, coco, Aman) -3 Four -1s (Ver, Doc, Qian, Mist) -4 Zero +1s 0 Zero +1s 0 Zero +2s 0 Zero +2s 0 Zero +3s 0 Zero +3s 0 -11 -11 Wahr Voters TUM Voters One -3 on Wahr (Twin) -3 Zero -3s 0 Two -2s on Wahr (Qian, Araris) -4 Three -2s (Miss, Doc, Twin) -6 One -1 on Wahr (Mippo) -1 One -1 (Araris) -1 One +1 on Wahr (Aman) 1+ One +1 (Qian, Wahr) 2+ Zero +2s on Wahr 0 One +2 (Aman) 2+ One +3 on Wahr (Ink) 3+ Zero +3s 0 -8 + 4 = 4 -7 + 4 = 3 Mist Voters One +1 (Miss) 1+ Four +2s (Mint, Mippo, TJ, Twin) 8+ Three +3s (Ver, Doc, Qian) 9+ 18 Of course not all the formatting pasted RIP Edited March 29 by Amanuensis
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Doc12 said: Also, for Slytherins, Coco/Araris were tied for position of second prefect. If Coco was elim that might have been a reason for elims to give Araris more negatives. Doesn't prefect selection come before exe? @Archer can you confirm this? 2 hours ago, Doc12 said: some questions for you. +3 to Qian? Felt you had stronger village reads than Qian Not really tbh. I do (maybe) have stronger village reads than him and am actually slightly sus of him, but I wanted to see what he would do/how he would react as one of the top people. He’s not been super outspoken so far either in pm or thread so I wanted to see him doing a bit more. But also I don’t have any very strong reads atm. This seemed like a good way to get a stronger read. That plan didn’t really work tho, since he didn’t get anything. I assumed more people would plus vote him. 2 hours ago, Amanuensis said: More importantly, why did she give me +2 when she's been consistently shading me I’ve been shading you a bit but what you’re saying does make sense and I didn’t want you exed because I figured if you are village you’d be good to keep alive. And I figured you might be a top candidate. Same thing you were doing with Araris a bit, adding votes to try keeping him alive. 2 hours ago, Amanuensis said: how aware was everyone in Slytherin about each others votes? For example, did Wahr claim he would -3 Araris? Did TUM and Qian claim they would -3 me? Did TUM claim -2 on Araris? I'm also curious why Wahr -2'd Twin and by Qian -2'd Wahr? I assume you made a case for Hopper. Nobody was claiming votes in our pm, unless I missed something (which I don’t think I did)
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 29 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: I’ve been shading you a bit but what you’re saying does make sense and I didn’t want you exed because I figured if you are village you’d be good to keep alive. And I figured you might be a top candidate. Same thing you were doing with Araris a bit, adding votes to try keeping him alive. Alright maybe you're town 4 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: 4 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Coco btw. Thought you were solving the game? @coco.pudding Tell me what you think about this interaction. Unless I'm misunderstanding this statement of TUM's, he seems rather confident you are village Also rather confident that I am village despite giving me a -3 (in that elims do not solve, they fake) Edited March 29 by Amanuensis
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 ED1T: You know, I genuinely didn't anticipate so many players neglecting their strongest votes. coco Doc Twin TJ Hopper mippo Wahr Coma Ink Vergrass TUM Mint Miss Qian
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 29 Posted March 29 19 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Tell me what you think about this interaction. Unless I'm misunderstanding this statement of TUM's, he seems rather confident you are village Also rather confident that I am village despite giving me a -3 (in that elims do not solve, they fake) He does, yeah. @The Unknown Medallion is that accurate? And if it is, why so confident? I think that would make you the only person confident in my villagerness. Or did you just assume Aman is evil and go from there since you voted him -3? So yeah that particular interaction does feel very strange. But tbh I’ve been getting weird vibes. Just didn’t want him out yet.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: I think that would make you the only person confident in my villagerness. Nah dw I'm sorry I ever doubted you and Doc, I will be your ride or dies now. Amara is sorry she didn't try to be a better friend when she was still corporeal Edited March 29 by Amanuensis
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 So I hadnt timeb yet to do a large scale analysis of the Vote distrobution but Mist was by far the most popular choice for + and Hopper, Araris and Coco were by far the most popular for the lowest. So it stands to reason that there are Elims somewhere in those trains. Grass (Mist, Coco, Araris), Doc (Mist, Coco, Hopper) and TJ (Mist, Araris, Hopper) were active in 3 of those trains Aman (Hopper, Coco), Ink (Hopper, Araris), Coco (Hopper, Araris), Mippo (Mist, Hopper), Qian (Mist, Coco) and Mint (Mist, Coco) were each active in two of those From the 3 that are active in 3 Trains I am most wary of Doc (my experience playing with him as thought me that he will inevitably backstab me) I like Amans Analysis so far and would lean V on him. Coco and Ink were not part of the Mist train but I think there would need to be more on Mist than just Doc so I would give both Coco and Ink a slight V lean. Mippo, Qian and Mint were all part of Mist. I have the feeling that Mippo and Mint have been relatively quiet so far, so I wont give a read on them. Something about Qian does runb me the wrong way, but I can not say what it is I am also not a fan of Hopper and Comatose not submitting any Votes, but that could be due to C1, but definitely something I would want to keep an eye on.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 6 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Alright maybe you're town @coco.pudding Tell me what you think about this interaction. Unless I'm misunderstanding this statement of TUM's, he seems rather confident you are village Also rather confident that I am village despite giving me a -3 (in that elims do not solve, they fake) That is definitely misunderstanding I was being tongue on cheek and would have responded that way to any blank vote You said you wanted negatives don't complain when you get them. I likely would have changed my votes (don't ask me to who, I don't know), but I was at a wrestling camp literally all day yesterday.
Qianweilian He/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 9 hours ago, Doc12 said: I don't believe in secret roles...I have the phoenix role Very funny. 9 hours ago, Doc12 said: 3) Mist sent Owl Mail, he suspects Ver/Grass and Qian. Ver/Grass because Mist believes the elims either were set on killing him or switched to him when he explained why he was the best target. Ver fits both because Mist told them early D1, and Ver, Mint, Cocom and Aman was also on during rollover to see him explain that again? Qian because Mist doesn't like how they gave him 3 votes, trusted Grass, and agreed with everything he said. Obviously, take Mist's thought with a grain of salt, but he was right about being targeted *shrug I'll answer this. So, I was additionally worried about Mist getting targeted, but I wasn't sure how it was going to happen. I was nervous he would get a bunch of -3s. I also wasn't trying to blindly agree with anyone, that must have been at a time I was offline, so I missed it. 6 hours ago, coco.pudding said: He’s not been super outspoken so far either in pm or thread so I wanted to see him doing a bit more. Sorry about that. I had a busy Saturday and a busy week. I'll try and participate more. I'm also kinda just observing, watching for a slip. That kinda thing. 2 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said: So it stands to reason that there are Elims somewhere in those trains. I agree. I'm growing increasing suspicious of Grass, Doc, and Coco. @Amanuensis, my suspicion for you has mostly abated, and I do like your analysis, although I am worried about your "reaction tests" and your repetitive lying to all of us. It feels like your trying to play a game within the game, and that makes me nervous.
Verdance he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 To be fair, I am currently running a reaction test as well. I think you could call it that. Not that it will mean much unless I’m killed by the elims.
Archer he/him Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 8 hours ago, coco.pudding said: Doesn't prefect selection come before exe? @Archer can you confirm this? Prefect selection comes before the exe. In a theoretical scenario where someone was elected Prefect and also killed, that House would have one less Prefect. 10 hours ago, Through the Living Hopper said: @ArcherI can still talk in-thread, right? Absolutely. You just can't use PMs. If you die and someone else gets Homework, you will be able to send Owl Mail next cycle.
Verdance he/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 18 minutes ago, Archer said: Prefect selection comes before the exe. In a theoretical scenario where someone was elected Prefect and also killed, that House would have one less Prefect. Absolutely. You just can't use PMs. If you die and someone else gets Homework, you will be able to send Owl Mail next cycle. Why would it matter? Hufflepuff would still be out a prefect.
Qianweilian He/him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 39 minutes ago, Archer said: Absolutely. You just can't use PMs. If you die and someone else gets Homework, you will be able to send Owl Mail next cycle. Oh, does that mean that homework overrides Owl Mail?
Doc12 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 @Amanuensis can confirm what Coco said. I shared my thoughts in PM and voted accordingly. Qian expressed concerns about Ravenclaw. TUM expressed concerns about Araris and me Coco suspected Aman, didn't love Mist's reaction EoD yesterday. That's about it. No actual numbers. Also consider this your RP prod
Archer he/him Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said: Why would it matter? Hufflepuff would still be out a prefect. (I don't think this question is directed at me, correct me if I'm wrong. Your GM only answers direct questions.) 6 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: Oh, does that mean that homework overrides Owl Mail? Correct. Don't think too hard about how the flavour interaction works with the mechanics. The in-world explanation is that you're receiving a letter from someone who wrote it while alive, then it was delivered later because owls are notoriously unreliable. Edited March 29 by Archer
___ He/Him Posted March 29 Posted March 29 5 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said: So I hadnt timeb yet to do a large scale analysis of the Vote distrobution but Mist was by far the most popular choice for + and Hopper, Araris and Coco were by far the most popular for the lowest. So it stands to reason that there are Elims somewhere in those trains. Grass (Mist, Coco, Araris), Doc (Mist, Coco, Hopper) and TJ (Mist, Araris, Hopper) were active in 3 of those trains Aman (Hopper, Coco), Ink (Hopper, Araris), Coco (Hopper, Araris), Mippo (Mist, Hopper), Qian (Mist, Coco) and Mint (Mist, Coco) were each active in two of those From the 3 that are active in 3 Trains I am most wary of Doc (my experience playing with him as thought me that he will inevitably backstab me) I like Amans Analysis so far and would lean V on him. Coco and Ink were not part of the Mist train but I think there would need to be more on Mist than just Doc so I would give both Coco and Ink a slight V lean. Mippo, Qian and Mint were all part of Mist. I have the feeling that Mippo and Mint have been relatively quiet so far, so I wont give a read on them. Something about Qian does runb me the wrong way, but I can not say what it is I am also not a fan of Hopper and Comatose not submitting any Votes, but that could be due to C1, but definitely something I would want to keep an eye on. Yeah doc no-one's forgiven you
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