Amanuensis he/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, Through the Living Mist said: I’m also now looking over the rules, and I’m not sure. I don’t see anything either way. That said, house points don’t reset every day in the books. But depending on how archer does it, we may not have to worry Ah, yeah. I think it's a flavor misnomer, given we are technically voting individuals rather than Houses.
Myst He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Just now, Amanuensis said: Ah, yeah. I think it's a flavor misnomer, given we are technically voting individuals rather than Houses. Probably, but I’m glad I brought this up now then, I’ll have to change some votes depending on archers answer(I voted you for -1 because I wanted to be able to exe you if my opinions changed)
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said: Probably, but I’m glad I brought this up now then, I’ll have to change some votes depending on archers answer(I voted you for -1 because I wanted to be able to exe you if my opinions changed) Well if you find better utility for it, feel free, but I would appreciate keeping your -1 if you don't find a better option for it. I doubt my plan is going to work as well as I hope it will, but if it does it'll be epic
Myst He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Well if you find better utility for it, feel free, but I would appreciate keeping your -1 if you don't find a better option for it. I doubt my plan is going to work as well as I hope it will, but if it does it'll be epic Since I’m interested in what In the world you could be planning, I’ll give you my -2 instead, taking TUM out, and making Araris -3 and Coco -1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, Through the Living Mist said: Since I’m interested in what In the world you could be planning, I’ll give you my -2 instead, taking TUM out, and making Araris -3 and Coco -1 TY for your service o7 (9-17) Araris: Vergrass (2), TUM (1-3), Wahr (1-3), Mist (3), TJ (1-3), coco (1-3), (6-10) Aman: Vergrass (1), TUM (1-3), Mist (2), Twin (1), coco (1-3), (4-8) TUM: Twin (2), Araris (1-3), coco (1-3), (4-6) Wahr: Twin (3), Araris (1-3), (4-6) Twin: Aman (3), Wahr (1-3), (3-7) coco: Araris (1-3), Doc (1-3), Mist (1), (2-6) Hopper: Doc (1-3), TJ (1-3), (2-6) Doc: TUM (1-3), Wahr (1-3), (1-3) Vergrass: Doc (1-3),
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: My current controversial opinion is we should exe none of them. That is controversial. And interesting. I definitely see your point that a lot of people hopping onto a certain train probably means the elims are comfortable with that train going through. Curious who you’d like to exe instead? 1 hour ago, Through the Living Mist said: Ver did Aman, TUM Araris first, then me, then Coco. Ver and I did talk in our PM about Aman. Not about the other two. If there is an Elim in the group, I’d say it’s Coco I…actually didn’t realize that was the group mainly being sussed (until you mentioned it) That’s a me not reading well enough error. After seeing how many people are on those trains, I’m actually less inclined to vote there. I think we all learned how dangerous big consensus like that can be in the last game. It would be very easy for the elims to jump on a train like that. Or mess up the trains we think are happening .
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted March 28 Posted March 28 In answer to two questions from a couple of pages ago - -@mippo technically this is my second SE game; the first one was this year's AG (I was Toucan, a v!Coinshot) -In terms of houses, I actively chose Gryffindor house, if that helps clear things up. I had no justification for it beyond it matched character vibes. I'm still undecided on votes for now. 1
Archer he/him Posted March 28 Author Posted March 28 (edited) Votes reset every cycle. Clarification on how voting works: You may fill in the votes column with unique names. You may also submit no vote for any section. You can't self-vote. Options Votes Scoring 1st most trusted Name/No vote +3 2nd most trusted +2 3rd most trusted +1 3rd highest suspect -1 2nd highest suspect -2 1st suspect -3 Examples of invalid submissions: Deviation from the options: +5 Harry Duplication of the options: +2 Ron, +2 Ginny Example of a valid submission: +3 Ron, +2 No vote, +1 No vote, -1 Draco, -2 Crabbe, -3 No vote. Edited March 28 by Archer 3
Doc12 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, Miss Fallen said: Still figuring out how to read everybody. With this being my first game, I’m still getting used to the amount of analysis. That being said, based on general vibes I think Doc is village, or at least trustworthy. Think I agree with Twin on this; I haven’t played with Doc before but from what I’ve heard you only know they’re elim when they stab you in the back- or right before. So until then I won’t discount them. I don’t think I can analyze anyone else yet; for voting rn I’d probably rely on someone else’s inclinations. As for a nickname Fallen is probably best so you don’t mix me with Mist People's opinions on me are really split huh Coco, Wahr, Qian and Mippo evidently haven't forgiven me for QF78, which, fair. I am kind of amused that this is Fallen's first actual read, and it's to support me, when I'm not really in danger atm. Could be a thing where an elim pops in to support a majority thought. But I do appreciate the sentiment, Fallen! I promise that in this game I cannot stab you in the back 9 hours ago, Through the Living Mist said: Same advice as to Ver, if you don’t know what to do/how to read. State the things you do know, and guess confidently. And yes, always be wary of Doc(too bad I never follow my own advice on that though) Also, something we all need to be aware of is how good Deepwolfing is here(yes, I’m outing myself). Because points roll over throughout the game, if a deep wolf gets lots of points early on, when we do out them, it’ll be really hard to get them to the lowest amount of points. As such, be careful of anyone who has a lot more points than the others. Mist what exactly have you been telling your sister about me >> Also this might be your new strategy, but being confused on rule mechanics is really helping you seem village right now I imagine if you were in a doc your teammates would have been arguing about this in there rather than in thread. Haven't solidified my votes yet. I'm think I'm dedicated to not voting on Aman or Araris, and I won't vote on the new/returners. That really limits my options. Coco, TJ/Mippo, TUM? TJ/Mippo haven't even really done anything, it's just that I don't have a good read on them yet. @mippo @|TJ| @Miss Fallen @Through the Living Hopper can you guys give me more of an idea of Ravenclaw dynamics and who susses who? Edited March 28 by Doc12 2
|TJ| he/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 It's been very quiet in Ravenclaw tbh, there's barely been any talk. Hopper the most suspicious out of everyone but only because they want the Prefect the most. I don't have any reads on Ms. Fallen. V-reading Mippo but due to thread reasons (nudge on Wahr) and not anything in the PM. I have been pondering if our House is pure but if it isn't, Hopper is most likely to be evil. I have mentioned about not being able to read new players so, I'm not sure about Ms. Fallen at all. Aman - I don't have any other village reads, so I don't know who else to give positive points to. Everyone else - I'm heading out to watch a football match live and it's likely I won't be able to contribute much more to the cycle.
Doc12 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) After making sure the First Years had found their way into the dorms, Azalea wrapped her scarf around herself and slipped out of the Common Room. Amara Penwell. They hadn't been friends. Amara had focused on her studies to a degree that friendship was a distant priority, and Azalea couldn't help but respect that. In turn, Azalea would like to think that she'd earned a degree of Amara's respect in her own drive to push the boundaries of known magic. They'd interacted a few times when they happened to meet in the Library, or when they accidentally found themselves in the same empty classroom trying to find a place to read. No one had told them how Amara had died. The professors had passed down their ruling. Azalea and most of Slytherin knew better, even if they didn't voice it. Someone that driven, that passionate, didn't decide one day to... She'd studied Amara's ghost. She couldn't figure out how she died (Aman let me know if Amara has any actual death wounds) Where would she be at this hour? Azalea knew that Amara's brother was coming. Had spotted him, getting sorted to Gryffindor of all places. Tragic. Azalea had been hoping he'd follow in his sister's controversial footsteps, and she'd have tried her best to shield him from whatever killed Amara. Still. Gryffindor was still a slap in the Penwell family's faces, and she couldn't help but respect the kid. Would Amara have already found her brother? Azalea wouldn't be able to get into the Gryffindor common room. Well. That was a lie. Slytherin had already acquired the Gryffindor password. Still, they didn't want to let them know that this early in the year. Azalea made her way to the library, keeping a watch for ghosts the whole way. Peeves was probably tired out from a full day of messing with Firsties, but it didn't do to be careless. Through the moving staircases and the stone corridors, she went to a classroom that Amara had frequented for a spell. There had been a period where Azalea would sometimes take her own textbooks into the classroom, and tried to get Amara to discuss them with her - Amara got to test her memory of what she knew before she died, or try to learn information she had forgotten before she died, and Azalea got an intense and dedicated tutor. Lighting a few candles, she whispered "Accio Libellus Amara" Amara never really appreciated her doing that, but it was a surefire way to let Amara know she was looking for her. With a flash, a large notebook flew into the classroom. Locked with a physical lock, besides whatever protective charms that had been cast on it. Azalea settled down to wait. @Amanuensis Edited March 28 by Doc12 3
___ He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: People's opinions on me are really split huh Coco, Wahr, Qian and Mippo evidently haven't forgiven me for QF78, which, fair. I am kind of amused that this is Fallen's first actual read, and it's to support me, when I'm not really in danger atm. Could be a thing where an elim pops in to support a majority thought. But I do appreciate the sentiment, Fallen! I promise that in this game I cannot stab you in the back Mist what exactly have you been telling your sister about me >> Also this might be your new strategy, but being confused on rule mechanics is really helping you seem village right now I imagine if you were in a doc your teammates would have been arguing about this in there rather than in thread. Haven't solidified my votes yet. I'm think I'm dedicated to not voting on Aman or Araris, and I won't vote on the new/returners. That really limits my options. Coco, TJ/Mippo, TUM? TJ/Mippo haven't even really done anything, it's just that I don't have a good read on them yet. @mippo @|TJ| @Miss Fallen @Through the Living Hopper can you guys give me more of an idea of Ravenclaw dynamics and who susses who? There's like nothing going on Just voting
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, |TJ| said: Hopper the most suspicious out of everyone but only because they want the Prefect the most Is this because I told you about my dream? Right now, I'm v!leaning Mippo the most, they've been really chill in the Ravenclaw PM, and I don't think most knew elims are like that. I think TJ is village too, because of vibes, really. Edited March 28 by Through the Living Hopper Accidentally clicked the post button
Myst He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Doc12 said: Mist what exactly have you been telling your sister about me >> : ) she knows about the multiple times you’ve stabbed me in the back, the time I stabbed you in the back, and that one time you saved the Elim team
Doc12 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Slytherin buddies! Pictured: Siannain and Big Leo having a 'wizard duel' Big Leo and Little Leo comparing capes Azalea and her two blonde besties First years pestering Tom Donuts with questions 10
Mint11 she/her Posted March 28 Posted March 28 19 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: There's been a couple posts saying this, but I disagree. Having votes in thread benefits the village much more than elims. If we don't hold people accountable to posting their opinions, they can vote whoever and make their reasonings up retroactively. It makes it harder for elims to defend teammates and push misexes But votes are published next round anyways. Does is matter if people are pushed to explain them now versus later? I think we should all discuss suspicions in thread, but I don't see how sharing the exact vote counts ahead of time is helpful. Could you say a little more on how posting votes ahead of time makes it harder for elims to misdirect the vote? I feel like I might be missing something. 19 hours ago, |TJ| said: Ehhh, I disagree, because assuming Archer would have pity is dangerous by itself. Bunching up elims does end up nerfing them in terms of information as they have access to lesser number of Houses but I adjusted that by adding an extra elim, so it was 5 elims in an 18 player game. granted 5 elims in a 17 player game WITH the rule about parity wincon is highly unlikely but just putting this out there anyway. Besides, trying to outguess GMs is always a bad idea and delving into elim number combination within groups is also a dangerous game, so I'll just call it as I see it in-thread. Yeah fair point My current village reads are Mist and Fallen. Mist, because how they tried to catch Aman's "slip up" very early in the cycle felt village to me. It was also mentioned that Fallen was pushing for a prefect to be selected, which also sounds like a village move. Curious if anyone in Ravenclaw could elaborate on how the prefect vote has been going and if there has been any disagreement or debate on who should be prefect? @mippo (since you had mentioned people are just voting) This early post of doc's gave me village vibes: Quote Okay, genuinely confused because I received my GM PM before Cycle 0 started, which of course said Loyal student. So the signups say: "Rollover Zero House PMs are created. These are the only PMs in the game. Alignments are now assigned:" But at Cycle 0, the writeup says "Rollover Zero House PMs are created. These are the only PMs in the game. Alignments are assigned. See Rules for more information." So with this, I assumed alignments weren't assigned at the start of Cycle 0, but at rollover, which is why I believed House declarations to be NAI because I fully believed at that point that no one knew what their actual alignment was going to be. This is supported by TUM's post in C0 where he states he doesn't know what alignment he is yet. So which is it actually? I received my PM before C0, which is why I'm assuming no one else would receive alignment updates in C0 unless they were elim. I did have the same thought as Mist upon reading what Aman said, but is that cleared up now? Can we clear up if anyone actually received a GM PM during C0? Seems like Doc has stabbed a number of people in the back, but seeing as I'm not one of them yet, I'll lean village on them I have an elim read on coco and a slight elim lean on Aman? I feel like coco's posts have been fairly noncontroversial/mostly agreeing with things others have brought up: Quote I do think it also makes sense to exe a Slytherin today, there are too many of us to statistically not have at least one elim in the mix. Not sure who yet, I’ll get on that soon. I think it’ll definitely be important for us to both solve within our PM and within thread, and ideally to share some of our in-house solving with everyone else. We have an interesting dynamic here with basically mini threads added on to the main one, and it seems like something that could happen is neglecting one in favor of the other, so we should try to avoid doing that, as well as making sure everyone knows why we’re voting for some particular person if that decision came from something said in a PM. Quote After seeing how many people are on those trains, I’m actually less inclined to vote there. I think we all learned how dangerous big consensus like that can be in the last game. It would be very easy for the elims to jump on a train like that. Or mess up the trains we think are happening . This post of coco's did give me a village feel (might be that I just like the player by player breakdown). Though it's not particularly controversial given others' opinions thus far either. Ironically, coco's description of Araris pretty much matched my gut reaction ("Mildly suspicious mostly because I feel like he has been in thread and said some things but just nothing stood out to me as being particularly either helpful or controversial.") but from what I remember, this is pretty typical of Araris' playstyle, so I'm not inclined to give him an elim read based on that. Aman goes full on analysis no matter what, the only thing I really have on him is this felt a little strange: Quote Thank you. I too am inclined to reduce the Slytherin numbers before others based on probability alone. I am very curious to see if they shoot within that group or a smaller one. It's a very general statement amidst a lot of detailed analysis.
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted March 28 Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Slytherin buddies! Pictured: Siannain and Big Leo having a 'wizard duel' Big Leo and Little Leo comparing capes Azalea and her two blonde besties First years pestering Tom Donuts with questions AWWWW I am going to vote -1 on Aman for now (I read Mint more positively than him and while I don't know if there's a Gryffindor Elim, I also have a slight e!Aman read) and possibly not use other negative votes this round on account of having no certain strong accusations. Positive votes are still undecided.
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, Frozen Mint said: But votes are published next round anyways. Does is matter if people are pushed to explain them now versus later? I think we should all discuss suspicions in thread, but I don't see how sharing the exact vote counts ahead of time is helpful. Could you say a little more on how posting votes ahead of time makes it harder for elims to misdirect the vote? I feel like I might be missing something. Yeah fair point My current village reads are Mist and Fallen. Mist, because how they tried to catch Aman's "slip up" very early in the cycle felt village to me. It was also mentioned that Fallen was pushing for a prefect to be selected, which also sounds like a village move. Curious if anyone in Ravenclaw could elaborate on how the prefect vote has been going and if there has been any disagreement or debate on who should be prefect? @mippo (since you had mentioned people are just voting) This early post of doc's gave me village vibes: Seems like Doc has stabbed a number of people in the back, but seeing as I'm not one of them yet, I'll lean village on them I have an elim read on coco and a slight elim lean on Aman? I feel like coco's posts have been fairly noncontroversial/mostly agreeing with things others have brought up: This post of coco's did give me a village feel (might be that I just like the player by player breakdown). Though it's not particularly controversial given others' opinions thus far either. Ironically, coco's description of Araris pretty much matched my gut reaction ("Mildly suspicious mostly because I feel like he has been in thread and said some things but just nothing stood out to me as being particularly either helpful or controversial.") but from what I remember, this is pretty typical of Araris' playstyle, so I'm not inclined to give him an elim read based on that. Aman goes full on analysis no matter what, the only thing I really have on him is this felt a little strange: It's a very general statement amidst a lot of detailed analysis. Sharing Votes in thread makes the Players accountable, because they have to give their reasons ahead of time and have less room to make up crem dung reasons.
Qianweilian He/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Slytherin buddies! Pictured: Siannain and Big Leo having a 'wizard duel' Big Leo and Little Leo comparing capes Azalea and her two blonde besties First years pestering Tom Donuts with questions Siannain looks like he’s about to hit Leonidas really hard (in a not necessarily legal way) and Leonidas looks like he’s trying to poke out an eye. Edited March 28 by Qianweilian 1
Archer he/him Posted March 28 Author Posted March 28 (edited) Rollover is five hours from now. Please submit your votes in your GM PM, and vote in House PMs for Prefect. My rules were ambiguous, so to clarify: If you are awarded a spell by Prefect or Extra Credit, you must declare your selection by the next rollover, or take random selection. You can use it that rollover, or save it for future use. Obliviate affects spells that were earned previously, which could include those declared in the same rollover that Obliviate is declared then also cast. Therefore, a Prefect could immediately target another Prefect during the next rollover, erasing their spell before it is cast. (Obliviate only affects the elim factional spell if it's actively being cast that cycle.) Another clarification: I would announce if someone was double tapped by the NK and exe. Edited March 28 by Archer 2
Myst He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Through the living Wahr said: Sharing Votes in thread makes the Players accountable, because they have to give their reasons ahead of time and have less room to make up crem dung reasons. I don’t see why making up reasons now vs making up reasons later changes anything. If they tell us now, they can make up reasons, if they tell us reasons later, they can make up reasons How is it different? Sure, we could use this to coordinate votes, but we don’t need to spell out our entire vote trees to do that. We can just all agree to put someone in our lowest slot
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Frozen Mint said: Could you say a little more on how posting votes ahead of time makes it harder for elims to misdirect the vote? I feel like I might be missing something. 1 hour ago, Through the living Wahr said: Sharing Votes in thread makes the Players accountable, because they have to give their reasons ahead of time and have less room to make up crem dung reasons. I would argue that sharing votes ahead of time makes it easier for the elims to manipulate the vote. Especially since we’re not sharing exact numbers. They could very easily vote for someone different/put more points than assumed on someone and completely throw off what we think the train will be. 3 minutes ago, Through the Living Mist said: I don’t see why making up reasons now vs making up reasons later changes anything. If they tell us now, they can make up reasons, if they tell us reasons later, they can make up reasons How is it different? Sure, we could use this to coordinate votes, but we don’t need to spell out our entire vote trees to do that. We can just all agree to put someone in our lowest slot Yeah exactly. We can all agree on our lowest but I don’t think we should be doing too much more than that since that just makes it easier for the elims to throw things off. And since we’ll find out who everyone voted next cycle anyway it doesn’t matter all that much.
Verdance he/him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Do our votes have to balance or can we vote all negative or all positive?
___ He/Him Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Frozen Mint said: Curious if anyone in Ravenclaw could elaborate on how the prefect vote has been going and if there has been any disagreement or debate on who should be prefect? @mippo (since you had mentioned people are just voting) Nope, everyone seems to be in agreement. It went fallen, then me, then TJ, then hopper.
Archer he/him Posted March 28 Author Posted March 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said: Do our votes have to balance or can we vote all negative or all positive? They don't need to balance. Edited March 28 by Archer
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