deep substrate foliated kalkite QF77: (S)Andor(son) Elimination

[Argenti he/him]

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Kreen trusts me? What does that mean?

 

kreen is dead.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

4 minutes ago, Argenti said:

kreen is dead.

I know

[Myst He/Him]

10 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Your Mistakes woke up.

How long have I been out?

He quickly checked around.

Only a day, good.

As he walked out of his bunk, he was suprised by a man at the door.

Kreen trusts me? What does that mean?

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Can someone tell me what happened while I was away? Stink PMed me, was not expecting him to be an EVIL REBEL SCUM (ngl feels wierd to have the rebels be the bad guys after watching andor and star wars just in general)

Doc put his notes for yesterday earlier in this, I’d check that out

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

I have pretty bad brain fog at the moment so hopefully this all makes sense.

With STINK getting killed and being evil, I think it's unlikely there were many submissions for the kill and either multiple picked STINK or multiple picks were rebels. With it being a tie vote at the end as well, I find it unlikely that the 3 who voted on STINK were any of the people who submitted the kill on them (though that doesn't mean there arent rebels there since they can't coordinate). Due to this, I don't want to vote on KSauce, Doc12, or ThatOneWorldHopper for today.

Ok, so I just finished skimming the past messages. Currently getting elim vibes from Experience and IHadAThought. Mostly just because Exp said they aren't a veteran when they've been playing this game for years I'm pretty sure... and IHadAThought for the Dark Forest comment just because I feel like that kind of thinking is most likely to be from rebels. The reaction to the STINK kill I also think felt a little weird... That being said I think you are a new player so I don't want to kill you at the moment =). 

I know pokes are kind of weird on D2, but since this is kind of my D1, I'm going to poke @Argenti Argenti (ninja'd xD great timing) what are your thoughts on the game? Why do you think TwinSoul is evil? @Booknewt you also had quite a bit of thoughts on the game to not vote on anyone. Who would you vote on?

IHAT(1): Kas, 
Doc(1): IHAT
Divergent(1): Doc
Experience(1): Booknewt
TwinSoul(1): Argenti
Argenti(1): Fura

I will be on later today though won't have a ton of time left for today. Tomorrow I'll be more active. It is likely my vote will land on one of Argenti or Booknewt at the end of the day and will look at IHAT or Exp tomorrow unless I see something else to make me suspicious.

Edit: added exp:booknewt into votecount

Edited October 26, 2025 by Furamirionind

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

15 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

(ngl feels wierd to have the rebels be the bad guys after watching andor and star wars just in general)

Real
 

4 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

@Booknewt you also had quite a bit of thoughts on the game to not vote on anyone. Who would you vote on?

I did. Experience. It was mid-text block so you might've missed it.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, TwinStorm said:

Okay, so if they are 5 or 6 rebels in play, but only 2 or so messages (I received both the durasteel one and the formal one) circulating that probably signifies less experienced players, which fits with Drake's statement of an underpowered team. Assuming then we have 2 veterans, STINK would be one of them. So if STINK's one of the rebels, who's the other?

Well, of the experienced players, neither Hoid Slayer or Kas seem committed, and I've seen them both play elims with a ton of efforts. My personal PMs with both also seem v!indicative, Kas doesn't seem like he's looking for teammates, just wants to discuss wrestling :P. That gives us Doc and TUH, being the main vets left, with some others in the mix. Of the two, Doc seems more trustworthy, he feels very laid back and PMs are fun. TUH on the other hand . . . I don't have any real reason to vote you, but breaking down the list, you seem the most likely. I also don't like your Dark Forest philosophy

@The Unknown Hammerer prove me wrong

No

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

24 minutes ago, Booknewt said:

I did. Experience. It was mid-text block so you might've missed it.

Ah my bad, I'll edit that into my vote count

[Doc12]

I developed a new method of keeping up with thread by having a notepad up and typing into it as I read, which I think is really helpful for me, so have another dump!

Quote

Day 2

Experience: Thank goodness KSOS chose a successor. asks people who did surveillance to come forward.

IHAT: something you want to tell us?

Experience: The game ends if supervisor dies without successor. 

Hoid Slayer: Don't expect much from me

Divergent: oops i tried to save STINK

Kas: Good job KSOS, two worlds:

(less likely to have put STINK on kill): TOW, Newt, Doc, Storm, Divergent, Exp
Just running raw exclusion here: TUN, Coder, Argenti, Hoid, Ace, Lotus
Not there: Fura 
Votes Lotus, asks about dead drops

Booknewt: probably a player active before STINK pileup. Maybe Divergent. 

Kas: 6 rebels? more math about how STINK could have died. Suspects 2 rebels chose STINK

Twinstorm: I voted KSOS because we needed to vote someone, he's not super active but fairly good at the game. Shares 2 dead drop messages

Kas: i only got 1 dead drop, it has planets. maybe we can linguistically analyze

Unknown: I got 2. Rancor and sign off

IHAT: votes me. Not sure why? 

me: shares my notes. pokes Divergent for voting KSOS

IHAT, Kas: some discussion about dead drop

Booknewt: I got 2, dead drops make no sense if they were trying to recruit. Gives reads. positive Twinstorm, mixed on me, positive unknown, willing to forgive Divergent, no thoughts on CD, Argent, Worldhopper, Fura, Hoid, ACE. Thought Exp was more likely to have killed STINK because they didn't vote them. Votes EXP. Thinks Kas is fine for sharing info. negative on IHAT. 

Also I suspect Doc and Exp for having more knowledge about star wars and the dead drops reference those.

Kas: inclined to clear Lotus or Newt for sending the Rancor

Divergent: 6 rebels seems like a lot, I wanted to give STINK a chance to survive, didn't find reasons for voting him compelling

Kas: reasoning for more elims. more math about how STINK died?

Divergent: I got the planets one. agreed that 2 elims killed STINK

Argent: I vote Twinstorm

Fura: I just got here

Exp: I think our attention should be on people who didn't vote for STINK right now

IHAT: not everyone his here

Twinstorm: 5 or 6 rebels but only 2 messages? Assumes 2 veterans, and looks at Hoid Slayer, Kas, me and Unknown,. Trusts me more? So votes Unknown. 

Cd shows up. KSOS trusts me?

Argent shows up: KSOS is dead

Fura: in the 'people who voted for STINK aren't likely to kill him' camp. elim vibes from experience and IHAT. poke votes Argent. gives vote count. will likely vote on either Argenti or Booknewt because Booknewt gave thoughts without voting?

Booknewt: I literally voted.

 

thoughts: 

Argenti is a little weird for voting Twinstorm with no explanation. Fura poke votes Argenti for their vote, which sure, they gave the explanation that it's their day 1. I don't like either of those actions.

Booknewt - I am a star wars nerd, yeah. But clearly a lot of people in this game enjoy Star Wars  

I like people who are giving reads. Kas, Booknewt, and Exp make me happy. 

I set up a whole bunch of PMs yesterday, but then I went to bed and I was busy most of today so I haven't been keeping up. My main conversations are in a group chat that had STINK, Kas, and some others. I chatted with Divergent about our usernames and media. Argenti and I had a brief banter. My PMs are basically me asking everyone if they're evil and obviously everyone said no  

5 hours ago, Divergent said:

We only had a brief conversation wherein I realized he shared a similar timezone with me and that it’s nice that this game has a rollover that’s unlike many others where it’s a time that we’re asleep and have less control over what happens. So I wanted to give him a chance to survive by a dice roll and I didn’t really find any of the reasons for voting him to be compelling

Yeah that's fine. Divergent. I'd be more inclined to be suspicious in a game where elims know each other, but this just seems like a villager who wanted to tie a vote, which I personally also enjoy doing. 

11 hours ago, Kasimir said:

(less likely to have put STINK on kill): TOW, Newt, Doc, Storm, Divergent, Exp
Just running raw exclusion here: TUN, Coder, Argenti, Hoid, Ace, Lotus
Not there: Fura

I might be stupid Kas but what's the significance of the italics? I thought you're italicizing people who voted for KSOS but why is TUH and Lotus italicized?

Votes are very spread out right now. The main discussion of today seems to be whether people who voted for STINK were likely to be the ones that made the shot, and how many elims there are/how likely it is that two or more elims decided to kill the same person. I've listed them below:

IHAT(1): Kas (not sure why? Just voting on one of the people who didn't vote for STINK?)
Doc(1): IHAT (Because I was one of the people who voted for STINK?)
Experience(1): Booknewt (For not voting on STINK and because they know Star wars references)
TwinStorm(1): Argenti (No reason given)
Argenti(1): Fura (Why did you vote Twinstorm with no reason given)

Frankly none of these reasons are very convincing. I am one of the ones who voted on STINK - the first, and I'll readily admit I was just randomly picking someone because it was day 1. I was surprised when KSOS jumped on it, but I was perfectly fine leaving a 3 way tie between STINK, Twinstorm, and KSOS. Then Worldhopper and Divergent showed up to change things. 

I like ties. I like setting up ties and seeing who does what. Admittedly, this game gives much less information because elims don't even know who each other are, but I do still want to know reasons people feel strongly enough about someone to try and save them from a tie. Divergent gave their explanation. I actually want to throw a vote on Worldhopper so they explain why they felt strongly enough about STINK to try and confirm the kill, but as I said - I don't think Worldhopper is elim (or at least, not the one that killed STINK) because he broke the STINK/Twinstorm/KSOS tie. And secondly I probably won't be around end of cycle again so I don't want a poke vote that I might not be able to respond to even if the other person responds. 

I do still want my vote to count, though. So I think I'll throw a vote on Argenti - they're clearly around since I had a Pm with them yesterday, and they popped up to correct CD when they thought CD thought KSOS was alive. And then they voted Twinstorm with no explanation. 

I'll try to be back one more time before rollover. 

[Divergent He/Him]

So, I’m a little confused with moving forward with this game since the different nature of the opposing group means that traditional ways of finding rebels wouldn’t apply as much. But anyways, I wanted to write out my thoughts, so it’s clearer to me and perhaps others could also help clear it out for me.

I was thinking that Stink didn’t vote at all last cycle and he flipped Rebel. Perhaps he could have wanted to avoid accidentally voting a Rebel and wanted to have more info to find out who he’s aligned with, hence, potentially explaining his pacifist stance. So I am thinking along those lines that other Rebels might have thought the same and avoided voting at all.

Thoughts about everyone:

1. TwinStorm - The post where he said that PMs are the route both sides have to take combined with him stating that he messaged veterans stood out a bit to me. I could see the angle of a Rebel trying to find a friend among the people who are more familiar with playing in SE.

2. Doc - Messaged everyone like Stink also, so there’s an angle where he’s a Rebel trying to find allies. I’m a bit iffy about the reason for voting me because it seems to assume that I have the knowledge that Stink was a Rebel and thus voted for KSauce because of that.

3. Unknown - Basically his posting was just a joke about being the Spymaster, the Dark Forest theory, and some game mechanics, so there’s not really much of a read I can get out of him. Maybe CWAC?

4. Booknewt - I was iffy about the reasoning behind voting TwinStorm last cycle. But now that I wrote out my thoughts on TwinStorm, it makes more sense to me. Other than that, the reasoning for suspecting people to be Rebels because they voted Ksauce also seems to assume Rebels know who they’re aligned with

5. Coder - Wasn’t around so don’t have an opinion of him

6. Argenti - Hasn’t said much. Only 2 RP posts, with one of the posts suspecting TwinStorm without stating any reason

7. ThatOneWorldhopper - Hasn’t said much either. Voted Stink.
8. HoidSlayer - Hasn’t really said much either outside of saying that they’re busy atm

9. Fura - Entered D2. I like the one post that they had to try and figure out things. Also have a little reason to trust them after exchanging messages

10. Experience - Not sure what I think. Vibe-wise, I’m townreading them and the reasoning for voting KSauce last cycle was okay

11. Ace - Not really much to go off either since they only talked at the start of the last cycle

12. IHadAThought - I was confused with the vote for Doc, but he explained more clearly when I asked in PMs. Been trying to contribute here and there today. Vibe-wise from talking to him in PMs, he reads good to me

13. Kasimir - Has said and contributed the most out of everyone. I’m inclined to think he’s trying to solve genuinely

With a third of the people alive not being very active rn, I’m kind of open to also considering voting in that direction since inactives are difficult to read and I also feel wary of getting to the later cycles with barely anyone to read/getting reads from. Also that one Rebel is out, so we have a bit of leeway to. That said, I’m not sure if that’s “reasonable” here since different communities have different positions on inactives.

That said, out of the active people, I’m least inclined to trust the first four at the moment. For now, my vote is on Unknown because I want to hear more about his thoughts on the game and other players. And he’s also one of the players who didn’t vote last cycle, which aligns with my theory that other Rebels might also have avoided voting like Stink did
 

Also, is there a way to isolate posts by person? Had to scroll the threads again and again to read through people’s posts and idk if there was an easier way to do that

 

Edited October 27, 2025 by Divergent
Grammar

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

41 minutes ago, Divergent said:

So, I’m a little confused with moving forward with this game since the different nature of the opposing group means that traditional ways of finding rebels wouldn’t apply as much. But anyways, I wanted to write out my thoughts, so it’s clearer to me and perhaps others could also help clear it out for me.

I was thinking that Stink didn’t vote at all last cycle and he flipped Rebel. Perhaps he could have wanted to avoid accidentally voting a Rebel and wanted to have more info to find out who he’s aligned with, hence, potentially explaining his pacifist stance. So I am thinking along those lines that other Rebels might have thought the same and avoided voting at all.

Thoughts about everyone:

1. TwinStorm - The post where he said that PMs are the route both sides have to take combined with him stating that he messaged veterans stood out a bit to me. I could see the angle of a Rebel trying to find a friend among the people who are more familiar with playing in SE.

2. Doc - Messaged everyone like Stink also, so there’s an angle where he’s a Rebel trying to find allies. I’m a bit iffy about the reason for voting me because it seems to assume that I have the knowledge that Stink was a Rebel and thus voted for KSauce because of that.

3. Unknown - Basically his posting was just a joke about being the Spymaster, the Dark Forest theory, and some game mechanics, so there’s not really much of a read I can get out of him. Maybe CWAC?

4. Booknewt - I was iffy about the reasoning behind voting TwinStorm last cycle. But now that I wrote out my thoughts on TwinStorm, it makes more sense to me. Other than that, the reasoning for suspecting people to be Rebels because they voted Ksauce also seems to assume Rebels know who they’re aligned with

5. Coder - Wasn’t around so don’t have an opinion of him

6. Argenti - Hasn’t said much. Only 2 RP posts, with one of the posts suspecting TwinStorm without stating any reason

7. ThatOneWorldhopper - Hasn’t said much either. Voted Stink.
8. HoidSlayer - Hasn’t really said much either outside of saying that they’re busy atm

9. Fura - Entered D2. I like the one post that they had to try and figure out things. Also have a little reason to trust them after exchanging messages

10. Experience - Not sure what I think. Vibe-wise, I’m townreading them and the reasoning for voting KSauce last cycle was okay

11. Ace - Not really much to go off either since they only talked at the start of the last cycle

12. IHadAThought - I was confused with the vote for Doc, but he explained more clearly when I asked in PMs. Been trying to contribute here and there today. Vibe-wise from talking to him in PMs, he reads good to me

13. Kasimir - Has said and contributed the most out of everyone. I’m inclined to think he’s trying to solve genuinely

With a third of the people alive not being very active rn, I’m kind of open to also considering voting in that direction since inactives are difficult to read and I also feel wary of getting to the later cycles with barely anyone to read/getting reads from. Also that one Rebel is out, so we have a bit of leeway to. That said, I’m not sure if that’s “reasonable” here since different communities have different positions on inactives.

That said, out of the active people, I’m least inclined to trust the first four at the moment. For now, my vote is on Unknown because I want to hear more about his thoughts on the game and other players. And he’s also one of the players who didn’t vote last cycle, which aligns with my theory that other Rebels might also have avoided voting like Stink did
 

Also, is there a way to isolate posts by person? Had to scroll the threads again and again to read through people’s posts and idk if there was an easier way to do that

 

Too your last question, I dont think so.

And yeah, i wasnt around bc of a camping trip, but Im back now! (kinda) can someone tell me what happened?

Until then, (because i dont want to be a no-voter) I saw someone vote for Lotus?

also i havent really had a D1, so this will be my poke vote lol

43 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Cd shows up. KSOS trusts me?

Listen, Your Mistakes doesnt know either, man. It's real confusing, he just woke up.

Be real nice if someone filled him in...

Edited October 27, 2025 by CoderDrag0n8

[Experience he/him]

6 hours ago, Booknewt said:

I got the certain word and two planets dead drops as well. It looks like those were sent to a LOT of people, at least assuming that everyone who got them actually got them.

I'm wondering what the point of the durasteel one was, bc why send it to so many people? If you do that, it loses all meaning, bc everyone knows what the person who said that word means. Almost feels like bait tbh - if someone sends something saying durasteel early enough before anyone else says it's a keyword, then we would know that person's prob a rebel. But it can't be bait bc only rebels can send dead drops. So not sure what's going on with that.

Going to cut Divergent some slack for now bc he's new, but I do want to hear what his reasoning was. (then again I have been guilty in the past of not voting sm bc feel bad about it, see Unknown yesterday)

I disagree with that, bc due to the lack of rebel communication, he might not have known. Don't think him doing that was suspicious either, but it's certainly not indicative of anything.

My current best guess is that it's someone who wasn't active when the pileup happened. By that logic, Experience, Worldhopper, Divergent, and TwinStorm are less likely to be a rebel, although Divergent's actions are still suspect.

Current reads:
 

1. TwinStorm as Johnny Kuplack 
Leaning positive. He hasn't done anything too suspect, and shared information with ppl. Then again, he is experienced enough that can't be a proof-of-innocence in any way.

2. Doc12 as Cal Kyte 
Mixed feelings here. He had mass dming, which isn't suspect on its own, but is when combined with some other stuff. Almost certainly wasn't the one to kill STINK bc he voted for STINK, but that can't be ruled out either bc he's experienced enough to want to cover his tracks. Additionally, he's shown interaction with the source material, and the dead drop messages had significant numbers of references (again, though, that's not indicative). He isn't acting suspect, so currently I'm going to keep an eye on him but not going to vote for him unless more stuff happens.

3. TheUnknownHammer as Unknown 
Leaning positive, for similar reasons as for TwinStorm. 

4. Divergent as Zeke Slane 

I want to hear why he voted for Ksauce in more detail, but I'm willing to cut him some slack bc he's new. 

6. CoderDragon as Your Mistakes 
Not shown up, so no thoughts

7. Argenti as Jallo Delste 
Not shown up (much at least), so no thoughts

8. ThatOneWorldhopper as Dying Right Now 
Not many thoughts right now

9. Hoid Slayer as Coming Later 
I can't decide whether to be suspicious of him not showing up much, but it's not rly fair to vote someone based purely on them being busy.

10. Furamirionmind as Kimrick Hammyr 
Not shown up, so no thoughts.

11. Experience as Garthyl Karn 
More likely to have killed STINK, bc voted Ksauce. Was active when STINK and Ksauce were the two main contenders. Has claimed a message, but hasn't stated which, according to Kasmir. Assuming Kasmir isn't playing some deep game, that's pretty suspect - feels like he was waiting for more info on the content of the messages. Has interaction with the source material ("Karn"), and the dead drop messages had significant numbers of references (again, though, that's not indicative).

All of that together, though... Yeah I'm going to vote Experience for now.

12. -ACE- as Jasher Shea 
Not many thoughts right now

13. IHadAThought as Lotus 
Leaning negative, I'm not sure why though. Something feels off, but might be just bc he's new.

14. Kasimir as Korun 

Sharing information / decreasing fog of war, so leaning positive for same reasons as Unknown and Twin

 

I think that the rancor message and the specific word message are the same one, bc I got the specific word one too (sry if that wasn't more clear)

6 hours ago, Divergent said:

I wrote a post and I think I accidentally clicked the hide option and I think it went to the void, so I’m rewriting it

Is there a precedent for it being six rebels? That feels like a lot of rebels in a 16 player game, but then again, I guess the mechanics/different win condition could make the ratio balanced

Also, I thought that if the rebels hit one of their own, then that player is exempted entirely from the reroll and all entries are removed. But I guess it’s possible I misunderstood it and it’s only the one entry that is removed and if there are repeats, then that person could still be hit again. So I too would like a clarification on that

We only had a brief conversation wherein I realized he shared a similar timezone with me and that it’s nice that this game has a rollover that’s unlike many others where it’s a time that we’re asleep and have less control over what happens. So I wanted to give him a chance to survive by a dice roll and I didn’t really find any of the reasons for voting him to be compelling

 

3 hours ago, Furamirionind said:

I have pretty bad brain fog at the moment so hopefully this all makes sense.

With STINK getting killed and being evil, I think it's unlikely there were many submissions for the kill and either multiple picked STINK or multiple picks were rebels. With it being a tie vote at the end as well, I find it unlikely that the 3 who voted on STINK were any of the people who submitted the kill on them (though that doesn't mean there arent rebels there since they can't coordinate). Due to this, I don't want to vote on KSauce, Doc12, or ThatOneWorldHopper for today.

Ok, so I just finished skimming the past messages. Currently getting elim vibes from Experience and IHadAThought. Mostly just because Exp said they aren't a veteran when they've been playing this game for years I'm pretty sure... and IHadAThought for the Dark Forest comment just because I feel like that kind of thinking is most likely to be from rebels. The reaction to the STINK kill I also think felt a little weird... That being said I think you are a new player so I don't want to kill you at the moment =). 

I know pokes are kind of weird on D2, but since this is kind of my D1, I'm going to poke @Argenti Argenti (ninja'd xD great timing) what are your thoughts on the game? Why do you think TwinSoul is evil? @Booknewt you also had quite a bit of thoughts on the game to not vote on anyone. Who would you vote on?

IHAT(1): Kas, 
Doc(1): IHAT
Divergent(1): Doc
Experience(1): Booknewt
TwinSoul(1): Argenti
Argenti(1): Fura

I will be on later today though won't have a ton of time left for today. Tomorrow I'll be more active. It is likely my vote will land on one of Argenti or Booknewt at the end of the day and will look at IHAT or Exp tomorrow unless I see something else to make me suspicious.

Edit: added exp:booknewt into votecount

 

 

Well I screwed up the quotes and I'm on mobile so all my thoughts are here. For the first quote, I don't understand why you're so hard set against divergent and then votes me for...knowing star wars (at least that seems like the main reason). Why not vote divergent at that point?

I don't remember why I quoted divergent post, but I think while trying to determine the amount of elims, an experienced elim is not unlikely to not send a message to make everyone think there are less elims. 

Also to clarify Fura I wasn't saying I wasn't a veteran, I was saying because they didn't include me in the list they didn't consider me to be a veteran

I have no clue who to vote rn I can't tie people together at all :(.

[Myst He/Him]

So, these were my reasons for voting doc. So, in your analysis, you gave Stink a good vibe, yet voted for him, which makes no sense. Later, you were advocating for peace, not voting, which wouldn’t have worked unless all the rebels gave up their hits. And, if you were a rebel, convincing us to not vote people, would’ve given you a free kill. You were also Pming everyone, which, while can be a good way of getting in for, as Kas pointed out, the vets are the people you’d really want to talk to, not everyone, and this leads me to believe your a rebel looking for allies. There are others who meet some of these same things, but you meet them all

edit for some clarity:

pming everyone isn’t always the good thing to do as the new people aren’t going to know much, it’s the veteran players that you’d want to talk to. To me this feels like a rebel(or spymaster) trying to find allies

Edited October 27, 2025 by IHadAThought

[Experience he/him]

Fura

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

1 hour ago, Doc12 said:

I am a star wars nerd, yeah. But clearly a lot of people in this game enjoy Star Wars  

Yeah, I'm... well can I say I'm a star wars nerd if the only new things I've watched since rise of skywalker are the Mandelorian and Andor? But I at least would be just as likely to make the same references. So yeah, was more of including for completeness

41 minutes ago, Experience said:

Well I screwed up the quotes and I'm on mobile so all my thoughts are here. For the first quote, I don't understand why you're so hard set against divergent and then votes me for...knowing star wars (at least that seems like the main reason). Why not vote divergent at that point?

That wasn't at all the main reason (see above message to Doc.) It was more of three or four factors all combining in a way that seemed to make sense. That was a contributor but in no way the prime indicator. I was more suspicious of that one vote, but A) elims don't know each other, B ) he's new, and C) he's already explained it satisfactorily anyway. My main reason was the message not being claimed, which has been mostly resolved. Pending answering of the question to follow, Experience. The question: Did the message you got contain a planet whose name started with C? 

Reading pretty positive on Fura, CD. 

Doc feels off, although I don't know why. 

Now that Doc pointed out Argenti's non-participation even when active, I do see it, although trusting the person who I feel like is off is... an interesting move so going to think about that. 

All other reads unchanged.

I feel like I should vote bc didn't last round, so going to dig deeper for a few minutes then come back. 

Incidentally, doing this without elims knowing each other is hard

Edit bc of ninja post:

1 minute ago, Experience said:

Fura

Any reasoning for that in particular? It's a bit out of the blue...

Edited October 27, 2025 by Booknewt

[Kasimir he/him]

Sorry guys rushing out rn so I'll keep it short.

1. Don't recall talking about vets so whoever said I did it might've been thinking of someone else.

2. In answer to Doc's qns, italics reflect uncertainty with tier/group placement for whatever reason. 

3. Lotus — if I'm dead just know I've expressed (D1) uncertainty around this slot but also feel Lotus made a statement in PMs that connects with STINK and I'm not sure an Elim immediately says they're taking slightly anti-Village tactical advice from a dead Elim.

4. Unknown — no clear read of slot, some lingering D1 reservations connecting with D2 disengagement. Probably one or two smaller Elim profile reasons.

5. At some point we're gonna have to consider a noisier control (maybe) Elim. I DO NOT THINK THE TIME IS NOW (John Cena noises) but this is "if I'm dead and it's D5 or something pls get over that allergy if I'm too dead to say it, I make bigger if I could."

Try to be back sry.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Uggggghh are you kidding me it just deleted my entire post.

Reads:

TUH: This post could be TUH just joking, as he claims, but it almost feels like he's trying to actually recruit. I might just be fishing for reads, though.

@IHadAThought: why would the elims want no vote? This early in the game, we're more likely to vote out a villager, so voting would actually be good for them C1. I'm with somebody else who said this: IHAT seems a little sus, but their new and I was storming awful my first game, so I'll cut them a little slack.

Also, Doc PMs everyone. It's just his style.

Doc: Doc hasn't done any fishing in PMs, so I'm giving him a faint v!lean, but I've played in games where Doc has been elim and pocketed everybody via PM, so I'm taking my opinions with a grain of salt.

Divergent: I don't like their excuse for why they protected STINK, but A) they're new & they couldn't have known who each other were (unless they were really lucky), so that doesn't really matter. I am liking the analysis.

Coder: said that KSOHS trusted him, but could just be maneuvering (I don't know how much I believe in Coder's manipulative abilities )

Drake: bad GM, didn't let me be R2D2

Note: I will edit in the link, I just didn't want to risk losing my post.

Okay, I'm going to double post, sorry. First off, if anyone had any interactions with STINK in PMs, it would be helpful to look at that. @DrakeMarshall, do you mind if we quote directly from PMs?

I can't be on for very much longer, but I would like to look at who STINK was leaning towards, because obviously multiple people felt threatened. Inversely, whoever he liked would probably be better to look at for villager, because they would probably like to keep STINK around.

This is the last I'll be on this cycle, so nobody start a train on me like last game please.

Edited October 27, 2025 by ThatOneWorldhopper
Linked & STORMING WHY DOES B) AUTOCORRECT?

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

Is there any way to stop B ) from autocorrecting? It's annoying for ppl who like doing A), B ), C)... type stuff. 

10 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

5. At some point we're gonna have to consider a noisier control (maybe) Elim. I DO NOT THINK THE TIME IS NOW (John Cena noises) but this is "if I'm dead and it's D5 or something pls get over that allergy if I'm too dead to say it, I make bigger if I could."

What do you mean by that?

Also find it kind of odd that Worldhopper voted for TUH right after Kas.

And yet I can find additional reasons to be suspect of him - he's being active but not trying to solve, which is... indicative. Also don't know who else to vote. 

So, bc I am a hypocrite (obligatory "Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing") who can semi-criticize Worldhopper for doing the same thing I'm about to do... The Unknown Hammerer.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Just now, Booknewt said:

Also find it kind of odd that Worldhopper voted for TUH right after Kas.

Ninja'd

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

Just now, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Ninja'd

Ah, okay.

[Doc12]

Wait this train is forming extremely quickly 

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

23 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

@DrakeMarshall, do you mind if we quote directly from PMs?

I'm sorry but yes I do prefer if we avoid that! thank

you are allowed and indeed encouraged to paraphrase though

[Kasimir he/him]

7 minutes ago, Booknewt said:

What do you mean by that?

Tldr; distinct chance Spymaster role passes to deepwolf (subwoofer) in late game if it drags on. Plsy incentives akso skewed this game

Current reads rightfully ignore deepwolf worlds & village must never begin by hunting deepwolves in early gamme it is v bad strategy if u still need morevexplnaibatokn b/c this is not eboufg het sonwone else yo do 4 u im rushinh

Search this sunforum for wgar i say on deepeolves too ig

Ok bye sry train is somwonw else's problem FML morning rush vloody mobile typing

[Doc12]

1 hour ago, IHadAThought said:

So, these were my reasons for voting doc. So, in your analysis, you gave Stink a good vibe, yet voted for him, which makes no sense. Later, you were advocating for peace, not voting, which wouldn’t have worked unless all the rebels gave up their hits. And, if you were a rebel, convincing us to not vote people, would’ve given you a free kill. You were also Pming everyone, which, while can be a good way of getting in for, as Kas pointed out, the vets are the people you’d really want to talk to, not everyone, and this leads me to believe your a rebel looking for allies. There are others who meet some of these same things, but you meet them all

edit for some clarity:

pming everyone isn’t always the good thing to do as the new people aren’t going to know much, it’s the veteran players that you’d want to talk to. To me this feels like a rebel(or spymaster) trying to find allies

I gave STINK an eh vibe, and voted for him because we needed to vote someone, which hey, turned out well in the end? The peace thing was, at the time, STINK making a joke and me and someone else joining in because we like messing wiht GMs? 

And yeah, I PM everyone, I enjoy PMs. I have been so sad in the past 3 games where PMs have been very limited, which is why I was so gleeful as I message people. 

I also don't like and have never liked the distinctions about 'vets'. I don't think it's helpful to say 'you really only want to talk to vets and not the new players because they don't know anything'. 

29 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Also, Doc PMs everyone. It's just his style.

Doc: Doc hasn't done any fishing in PMs, so I'm giving him a faint v!lean, but I've played in games where Doc has been elim and pocketed everybody via PM, so I'm taking my opinions with a grain of salt.

I am so extremely amused by this because I do not remember this game at all, and I was saying last game that I was amused by people saying I made a massive information network. I just really like PMing people! And I would have fished more and do plan on fishing more when I have time, so if that makes me suspicious you can vote me  

I am not entirely opposed to the Unknown vote I am just kind of surprised how quickly it mounted when there was really no real information other than 'oh he's been kind of suspicious'.

[Experience he/him]

1 hour ago, Booknewt said:

Did the message you got contain a planet whose name started with C? 

Nope.

1 hour ago, Booknewt said:

Any reasoning for that in particular? It's a bit out of the blue...

Mhm. To make some noise.

Don't love the train that's forming but also because elims likely (a few could be docced right now but less likely) still don't know each other it's still not telling enough as a regular game would be.

[Divergent He/Him]

1 hour ago, Experience said:

I think while trying to determine the amount of elims, an experienced elim is not unlikely to not send a message to make everyone think there are less elims. 

Hmmm true, this could be something to remember down the line in later cycles

17 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Tldr; distinct chance Spymaster role passes to deepwolf (subwoofer) in late game if it drags on. Plsy incentives akso skewed this game

Current reads rightfully ignore deepwolf worlds & village must never begin by hunting deepwolves in early gamme it is v bad strategy if u still need morevexplnaibatokn b/c this is not eboufg het sonwone else yo do 4 u im rushinh

Search this sunforum for wgar i say on deepeolves too ig

Ok bye sry train is somwonw else's problem FML morning rush vloody mobile typing

Lowkey thought you were drunk while typing this  overall agree with this

I’m a bit confused with the three consecutive Unknown votes in quick succession too, but would prefer that over just throwing votes all over the place